The Crisis in the South China Sea Enters a Dangerous New Phase
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- The violent confrontation between China and the Philippines on June 17th near the Second Thomas Shoal marked a sharp escalation in tensions between the two countries over their rival territorial claims in the South China Sea.
After the melee that severely injured one Filipino sailor, the two countries engaged in a second battle, this time in the media, to shape the narrative of what happened and where this burgeoning crisis goes from here.
Alex Vuving, a professor at the Pentagon-backed think tank Asia-Pacific Security Studies Center in Honolulu, joins Eric to discuss why the events of June 17th have prompted Ferdinand Marcos, Jr. to recalibrate his strategy.
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Let's be real.. the U.S is NOT going to waste their resources for the Philippines. I'm pretty sure the Filipino government themselves know this.
they are America - the poor people want to be free of our shackles but the oligarch family we have in power has sold out the country
if u see the poverty in Philippines u know beyond a shadow of doubt they r under US control
That's why Marcos looking over his shoulder. What do I do, boss?
What do you know ? Chinese CCP troll 🇨🇳👎
Agreed. Look at how Alex defined the treaty.
Yes the Marcos administration knows this, that the US is engaged elsewhere : Ukraine, Israel & Red Sea, the coming US election, Taiwan . The Philippines ranks below all of these US priorities & so there was never any consideration to activate the Mutual Defense Treaty. There is a qualitative difference in how China views its maritime dispute vis a vis Vietnam & the Philippines. Vietnam is a still a Communist country and more importantly, it does not geographically impede China's ambition to project power outside of the SCS. The Philippines is the US oldest ally in the region and is a component of the First Island Chain. China has singled out the Philippines as the weakest link in the US defensive belt that seeks to contain Chinese sea power from the Pacific Ocean. Whatever China can learn from its grey zone tactics in the second Thomas shoal it hopes to use against the other links in the FIC (i.e. Taiwan & Japan)
Let us be honest . The Phillipines ship was deliberated scuttled in order to stay in the reef. For over 2 decades, the Phillipines have stalled to remove the boat as promised and this standoff is a going on in the belief that the US will consider this conflict with China as adequate to confront the Chinese.
The Philippines put that ship there because China took over mischief reef during 1990s which is within Philippine EEZ which is under UNCLOS ruling which China disregarded
The US has already escalated the situation by adding more bases on PH territory. Secondly, the US has for years declared a "pivot to Asia strategy" that suggest imperial intentions. By suggesting that the US send a fleet to intervene is dangerous, and will not facilitate discussion.
The US already caused a war by manipulating Ukraine, and Russia made the mistake of allowing them to do it, which resulted in war.
Assuming that China gives leniency to PH in this issue, what is to stop the US in once again manipulating political conditions to start another war in the Pacific?
What would China think when Mr Marcos allows US operating military bases claiming to contain China? Why Mr Marcos is willing to be US soldier fighting China is mysterious indeed.
India's land claims are baseless according to history. Britain colonized that land from China. India inherited those stolen lands. The lands were part of the Qin dynasty for more than 500 years. If India got their lands back from British colonial power then China should get its lands back too. India believes their ancient gods reside in the Mount Kailash. China gave a far better land trade deal during Nehru but the Indian establishment and bureaucratic apparatus rejected those deals and 1962 happened. China wiped out the entire Indian front and then withdrew.
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This is how this dispute began: Ren'ai Reef (Thomas Shoal) has been part of China's territory for thousands of years. On 5/8/99 when NATO bombed China's Embassy in Yugoslavia, Philippines decided to send an old WW2 tank land ship and parked it there on 5/9/99 (convenient?). When China asked Philippines to remove it, Philippines promised that it'll be removed. Yet, 25 years have gone by, instead of removing the ship Philippines claims Ren'ai Reef is part of Philippines. There are previous videos of Filipino's boats running into Chinese coast guard's boat, and of armed men pointing gun at Chinese coast guards on the Sierra Madre. So, to just point out Chinese coast guards holding weapons would not give a clear picture of the situation.
Probably the US instructed Philippines to run the rusty ship onto the island to start this dispute with China to make an excuse for US being brought into war that US has been salivating over! They had already tried to provoke China to militarily retaliate over bombing of Chinese embassy.
pbbm thinks,phils.is asuperpower nation tha+ can fight china
Why intterview philippine side and not interview china side , WHY ?
Because Chinese analysts and scholars refuse to be interviewed by international media outlets, not even just Western ones, it's the same in Asia, Africa, the Middle East and elsewhere. We used to have many Chinese scholars come on the show (look. through our archives on our site) but that has all stopped. Where else do you see Chinese guests appearing on international media programs to talk about these issues. Hint: they don't. So, it's not because we don't to. We'd love to speak with them but they all refuse. - Eric
@@chinaglobalsouthwhat nonsense are you talking about? I can give you plenty of examples of international media where Chinese experts from China are appearing.
Also we can see people like David Guo and Einar Tangen and others appearing everywhere, so what are you talking about?
You want to tell me, you can't find 1 Chinese to come here to talk, from 1.4 billion people...
This channel was always pretty weak, already unsubscribed before..
But this nonsense comment of yours will make sure, I will never return to this garbage podcast.
@@chinaglobalsouthKeyu Jin
@@chinaglobalsouthtry being neutral for one. Even moderator for debates become aggressive and put in their two cents. Just watch the the Aspen video. Two Chinese and two Americans debating and the moderator jumps in on the American side. Why would anyone go into an interview with knowing it's going to be a clown and circus show. Just as this podcast is far from being neutral.
@@chinaglobalsouth 💯
The island belongs to China, not the Philippines .
Really ? Are you dreaming ? Says who ? Winnie the Pooh 👎🇨🇳
You need to look 1000 years back and who is controlling these islands during these 1000 years?
@@CN_SFY_General they were not the only people who had early activities in the SCS. No country can claim such a large body of water, it's for all the people of the world. But countries have their own EEZs.
Its not about China and the Philippine but China and America in the South China Sea.
There was an online article in late 90s or early 2000, reporting Vietnam trying to take a historical Chinese island from China, citing a new guideline by an international maritime agency/organization. It seems that this Filipino vessel grounding was around the same.
There are 10 asean countries and only one is causing issue. That should give you an idea where asean stands.
In my years of study since the 1960s, there was never such thing as West Philipines Sea. Since when WPS came about?
About the same time when these same gang of cowards and pathetic liars decided to change the historical name Asia Pacific to Indo Pacific.
Its bs again philippine carry many weapons not waters not sticks west bs again
This was anything but a neutral take on the matter. I came in expecting a non biased video, left disappointed.
The South China Sea Codes of Conduct have been discussed by ASEAN countries (PH included) and China for decades and almost concluded till Philippines raised recent events. That may be reason no other ASEAN countries speak up for Philippines so far. As much as the West wishes to drag China into a conflict, the timing for Mr Marcos is just not right now that there already two wars in the world. Remarks from well known political scientist Professor Mearsheimer and Mr Ritter aside, Asian countries including Taiwan are just not craving to be the next Ukraine.
The problem is,
Philippines is having the wrong interpretation of the UNCLOS Law Interpreted by the west.
When you are following the wrong answer you will be wrong all the way.
😂😅😂😅
It's going to be a problem if Phil called on US now coz their fleet is busy avoiding Houthi's missiles in the red sea.
Not one inch that's what the usa and nato said 😅😅😅😅
Make same interview to china side of the story .
Please recommend an English-speaking Chinese analyst who makes appearances on international media to talk about these issues in an unscripted manner. I doubt you will find one. - Eric
@@chinaglobalsouth Easy. Ben Norton. He is an American journalist with a huge youtube channel who lives in China. You're probably in an algorithm bubble if you haven't seen his content.
@@user-ic4ce8xb5v I'm very familiar with Ben Norton and have followed him for years. Point of fact, though, he's not Chinese and we are keen to speak with actual Chinese stakeholders. - Eric
@@chinaglobalsouth The original comment just asked for someone to represent the Chinese side, and Ben could do that quite well, but if you really need an actual Chinese person, then Carl* Zha, Victor Gao (CCP spokesman) this is just off the top of my head but I can dig around for more
@@user-ic4ce8xb5v Victor Gao is a general spokesperson who comments on pretty much every issue. We tend to prefer to feature subject experts rather than generalists. You may not think so, but we do genuinely try to be balanced and we really do want to stay out of the partisan food fight between the US and China (I invite you to check out our website for a more through view of the work we do) and everyone that you've listed as prospective guests are very much on the front lines of partisan media. The kinds of people from China that we used to have on the show and that I hope to have back again are scholars from Chinese universities like Peking University, China Communications Univeristy, think tanks like CCG, and even independent entrepreneurs who are experts in very particular fields. Just getting into a China vs. the West argument is really not what we do. - Eric
Amateur hour embassy releasing publicly details of confidential discussions. Like their Ukraine peace plan
A poor country, with the encouragement of the number one super power, tries to grab some land and sea from its neighboring super power. You guys do have a lot to learn and think about.
Construction material.
But sometimes you have to stop running and take a stand for the Philippines 🇵🇭
It's not China versus the Philippines. It's China versus the United nations Convention on the law of the Sea.
It's not China vs the Philippines; it's the US vs the Global Majority so bring it on. 😂😂😂😂
Philippines is confused I would say. Always testing the water and see how salty the sea water taste
B'S, PH storiy changes like the wind
Solution is to let China reunify Taiwan to the mainland China
Dream on, PH. Why not requests China to help you eradicate poverty? So, no need send your educated young ladies overseas to be house maid!
I would be careful about being so crass regarding overseas Filipino labor that plays a critical role in the merchant marines, healthcare, and yes, domestic industries given that Chinese emigration is also a major issue. After all, at least 100,000 Chinese migrants illegally crossed over the southern U.S. border from Mexico last year and illegal Chinese migration in SE Asia remains a serious issue as well. - Eric czcams.com/video/ukkLIFQWG4g/video.html
Defend the WPS? What WPS?
BBM say he will invoke MDT did daddy say ok BBM PLA is waiting in South China Sea to confront USA for the third time since 1950 in Korea 😂😂😂
The name REN 'AI Jiao mean RENAMED ARTIFICIAL ISLAND jiao from the acronym itself it is illigal it is second Thomas shoal undisputedly and no need to rename it
It's Biblical, (Rev 12:4-5) (Rev 12:7-17), the battle between the beast/dragon 🇨🇳 and the woman 🇵🇭.
*The beast/dragon 🇨🇳 is FALLING!
*The woman 🇵🇭 is RISING!
*We are now witnessing the fulfillment of Revelation Chapters 12 to 22.
r u ok?🤔
Screw your nonsensical fairy tales; if you think it's yours, come and get it. 😂😂😂😂
@@brianliew5901 "Destructive force of 'envy' is a virus, like fear, it weakens mind."
*The Philippines 🇵🇭 is the chosen land, the land of gold, the holder of the golden cup/tree of life. (Rev 12:5) (Rev 12:10)(Rev 17:4-6) (Rev 17:18) (Rev 21:9-11) (Rev 22:1-6) (Daniel 2:44-45).
@@reyromeoviray7578 Tbh, the Philippines is totally fxcked.
Your first question to the guest was about something he had already answered, and then you basically keep asking it,
My first question was to get his reaction about the June 17th confrontation and then we spent 40 minutes talking about a full range of issues. I don't think you actually listened to the whole interview before you posted this ridiculous comment online. Right? - Eric
sorry, thought this was an actual video and not just coming up.
It is an actual video with a promo at the start.