The Must-Do for every Grizzly owner
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- Ultimate 4x4 part 2
EPA restrictions keep getting tougher and tougher, and passing California Emissions while trying to offer a strong-running dependable ATV is not an easy task for our manufactures. In this episode, with the help of EHS Racing in Rockingham, NC, I undo the flaws that Yamaha was forced to create and along the way add a consistent 5 Horsepower through the entire power curve, all for under $1200!
This is part 2 of my new “Ultimate 4x4” video series. From cross country racing, GNCC competition, work-duties in the yard, trail-riding with buddies to a 4000 mile coast-to-coast trip on the Trans American Trail - I'm doing it all with my 2020 Yamaha Grizzly!
My Ultimate 4x4 Upgrades for the Yamaha Grizzly (List in Progress):
Barker's Dual Exhaust System with Quiet Core
EHS Racing Complete Air Intake System
EHS Racing EFI Controller
AIS Delete
Plastic Glide Plate (Genuine Yamaha Accessory): PN: B16-F84N0-V0-00
Rear Grab Bar (Genuine Yamaha Accessory): PN: B4F-F85E0-V0-00
Front Brush Guard/Bumper (Genuine Yamaha Accessory): PN: B4F-F84L0-V0-00
Yorwe Anti-Slip Grip Tape: amzn.to/3m4X03C
3M Super 77 Spray Adhesive: amzn.to/2VWq6Y1
XCEL Neoprene Foam Handlebar Padding: amzn.to/2K8UGuP
Music used in this video:
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Electric Worry, Clutch, • Clutch - Electric Worr... - Sport
Very interesting I"ve been interested it a yamaha for awhile now great videos.
I can appreciate that airbox conversion.. Looks sharp..
My 1999 Grizzly is still a beast !!! Love my Grizz !!!
Eric knows his shit when it comes to grizzlies.
I’m running his air box and lid and EHS tuner and AIS delete and 2R tip on my 2018 Grizzly .
Love it !
Next is the single Barkers and ELK’s
Yes, I took my 2008 Grizzly SE to Eric to be Dyno Tuned. I also have the EHS Airbox, Intake, Programmer & Barker's Exhaust too. I made 37.8 whp. Love it. Also Love my Elka Shocks. I like that Handlebar set up you got. I'm gonna be looking into that. Don't forget to get the ROX Oversized Footpegs too.
Awesome! Yeah peg upgrade is needed on the Grizzly. I went with the Genuine Yamaha Accessory pegs. They seem to work fine so far, but I do like the big beefy Rox pegs, both will work much better than stock for sure.
Brilliant upgrade, professional job, uk
Thanks for such a good 4 part series, on your Grizzly upgrades. Now for me to find a used / stock Grizzly & go to work on it. Thanks 👍
Thanks for writing. Yeah that's a great option on these, vs a Polaris or Can-Am - I would confidently buy a used Grizzly.
Part five, all about suspension is next, probably a few months away though.
Thanks again.
Great video! Thanks
Nice listening the clutch🤘🏼
I did the tuner and air box on my 2014 Grizzly years ago. Nice increase in throttle response and low/mid torque.
I live about 7 miles from this place and didn’t know that’s what kind of work they did. Good to know thanks.
Where is this place located at
@@keonhinton5827 in Rockingham NC right down the road from nc motor speedway and Rockingham dragway.
@@farmerjoe8809 I'm in Carthage, just bought a 2014 Grizzly 700 today! Found this video. lol
I've got new plans after the holiday now
It depends on how you ride we bought a 2003 660 and it didn't run and we got it to start and now it has run for about two years now and we plow snow, we get hay, and we run it when we are haying we run 40 across the field with it
This place is about an hour from me. Good to know it’s there!
Wut
@@shanemb3 idk bro lmfao
LOL me too!! I'm in Carthage
I woke up thinking about ATV scene LOL😂😂😂
Great stuff here but you may wanna re think the clutching and try a machined sheave from Coop.
Mine is packaged and about to be sent off to Arnie. I live less than an hour from Eric and when I get the clutch done I'm headed to Rockin'ham
What about water intrusion with the intake now being lower on the quad? I know ppl say they are fine but it’s a little low (by like 6-8”) and I’d be wary if I were riding wet trails. Although I’m sure it would be great in drier areas
What brand and model are those smooth tires?
So I put just the tuner on to cool the engine a bit and that works very well. Mine is a 2019 special edition with 27 inch tires from factory. My old 2012 arctic cat 550 2 up will keep up and a lot of times stay ahead of 700. I think yamaha dropped the ball on these machines
That’s a matter of perspective.
Hi,
Do you know if there is any or much difference in the engine and clutching of a new 700 Kodiak vs a Grizzly. The only thing I am aware of is heavier wts in the Kodiak clutch?? Thanks
I'm not sure about that. Yeah I think it's just some weight, or maybe color coded springs?? I think the Kodiak has heavier weights and thicker springs for a smoother feel and lighter on the Grizzly for more aggressive riding.
The tuner and airbox makes sense to make motor happier and run properly, you gain 2-3 hp also which is nice. The exhaust and especially the duals is completely useless.. 500-800 for exhaust when it adds 1-1.5 hp is not noticeable and completely useless. Plus the grizzly idles soo damn high all the time it is loud always, even with quiet core in.. everyone out there skip the exhaust always… use your money on a winch and skid-plates or something that protects the bike and helps you in other areas.
can u order these parts online?
I’ve been trying to get an appointment with them but I have not heard from them at all Are they really busy
What diameter vacuum cap is that to block off the AIS? Looking to do this when my grizzly comes in.
I should have measured it before we put it in. Sorry on that.
@@ATVScene prick you said it comes with the exhaust so go grab 1 measure it for the guy o rite hes not buying the parts from you so you say this to him you pos By the way stock yamma not gonna melt a piston single slip-on exhaust is good enough barker dual twice this n that but also you failed to mention twice the money
Looks like it'll probably keep up with the Can-Am now in the trails? Thanks for the awesome video
2018 grizzly here , almost 10,000 miles no issues all stock . Any one else have higher miles? Stock vs. Stock how does the 708 power delivery feel compared to the new 686 ? I ride by myself alot and I'm thinking on trading up for a 2022 . ( I'm still on the original belt by the way ) Mostly forest roads and atv trails in northern michigan , prolly average 35 mph . A little slower in winter pushing snow , 25 to 30 in 4×4 high.
Mine is a 2008 grizzly eps it’s got 12500 kms it’s still mint
That’s good to know.
I have an 2018 grizzly 700 with EHS tuner and airbox and duel Barkers.
I have about 3000 miles on mine.
Run Amsoil Synthetic Dirt 10W-50 in the winter and summer up in the NE.
2500 miles on this without any issues at all.
She’s a beast!
I have a 2008 grizzly 700 just hit 7000 miles. Still Runs perfect!
Over 12,000 miles and counting. 2002 silver limited edition 660. 100% stock. I believe it has the same motor as what is out again. 686. We ride. Through sagebrush, rock fields, irrigation ditches, farm work, and anything you can think of. Extremely Hard. Just changed the Belt at 11,300. Other than that, nothing. Loved the machine so much, I bought the 22 XTR. I have an 850 outlander, Honda rancher, and tried Polaris. Nothing is in the same class for ground clearance, ride, nimble and weight and reliability.
Would that airbox work well with the mapping without the lid cut?
I don't think it would perform as well. I think without the hole in the lid it wouldn't be able to gulp more air, which is the main ingredient in making more power. The outerwear is very durable and basically repels water... but I probably should have dipped it in water to see how waterproof it really is. This is a good question though. If you plan on doing a lot of river crossings I don't blame you for not wanting to do this.. If so, I bet Eric has a solution for you - maybe a bigger air intake tube?? You might hit him up and ask.
Report back here if you find a more water-proof system.
Thanks!
Dude looks like Ryan Gosling lol!
What did you do for shocks? I missed that part.
My suspension video is coming later this summer. I went with Elka Stage 5 shocks with remote reservoirs in the rear. They're outstanding! You'll also have very similar success with Elka Stage 3 or 4 shocks.
How did you adhere the tuner to your lid?
Just a couple pieces of stick-on Velcro.
What can be done on a 2002 to bump up the power?
An exhaust would probably wake it up the most. You might search the Internet, mainly Grizzly forums to learn what others have done for that year.
How you like it I'm about to install the same stuff next week on my 2021grizzly. Any advice?
Thank's 🤙
It's awesome. Not arm-yanking power but to tell the truth I really don't want that. this is meaty power everywhere, great to help you get over obstacles easier, and great for low end torque to muscle through anything in your path... it's so much better, you'll love it.
I can't believe people are still buying the Grizzly. Nothing has changed from the 2015 models. The only thing that did is tire size center dash cluster and third light. You probably spent 3k more than I did on my 2016 Grizzly 708. The Grizzly is still sitting on a 550 chassis. The 550, 660, 686, 708, and back to the 686 all are one the same chassis. Very little has been upgraded through the years.
@@joeellis2692 why change good things?
@@joeellis2692 I got my 2021 camo hunter grizzly $9800 out the door, I think that's a pretty good price and not much more than a 2016.
@@SuperDave-pe1zw 9,800 sticker price. Mine was 9,900 with an extra set of alloy rims tires and a 2" receiver. After extend warranty, taxes, intrest, prep, freight, tire disposal fees and DMV registration was $13,000.
13k out the door.
Would you do these on the 02 660’s as well?
I believe EHS has a kit for your older model Grizzly, but it's not nearly as needed as the newer ones since they now have stupid power-sapping emission issues.
what RPM those the 686cc grizzly engine run at?
I CAME, I SAW, I DID (TO MY GRIZZLY) THX
Why is the hp so low? I looked it up online and it says the grizzly has 47hp stock
Horsepower at the crank vs at the wheels.
I missed the part about why there's oil in the Airbox.
4 wheeler is not a investment , that’s like saying a boat is a investment 🤣🤣🤣
A boat is way worse! 🤣🤣🤣🤣(Unless you're using it for work)
Everything that takes money out of your pocket is liability.
If it brings happiness and smiles, it's probably the best investment you'll actually make.
Speak for yourself bud, idk where you're from, but I catch fish and pull deer. They might not be cheap out of the gate but my second hand and fixed myself boat and quads are tools to feed the fam bud.
Buying two new Grizzlies in August , can you help me find someone in Las Vegas that can do this for me. Thanks Sir
ATV Cycle Sports probably would take this on for you. atvcyclesports.com
I noticed Eric from EHS said he had 2 Kodiak 700’s. I wonder why he choose the Kodiak over the grizzly?
I don't know either. I think he purchases different ATVs for testing, he probably wanted to make sure his Grizzly improvements reacted the same way on the Kodiak.
Kodiaks turn sharper. Tighter turning radius. Cheaper, less storage.
I added this tuner two days ago to my 2008 grizzly. What the hell am I doing 🤦🏻♂️😂😂… I was running hot that’s why I bought it. I read the instructions pushed buttons now my quad stalls out. I’m 99 percent sure this is user error. I need help
Eric has some detailed youtube videos that can help you dial it in. Watch those and call EHS if you still cant get it figured out.
@@ATVScene thank you I’ll check them out
I need me a barkers exhuast for my 450😭
NOTHING BETTER OVERALL THAN STOCK. DO THE CLUTCH SHIM MOD AND QUIT..........JMO
Location???
Where is this place located?
EHS Racing, Rockingham, NC
Nice mods...there are rumors that the Barker duals will interfere with Elka Piggybacks on the Grizzly. Any truth?
It will fit fine, but you will want a remote on that corner if possible. If not you can make a heat deflector to help the cause, but if you ride it hard all day the shock oil will get too hot.
Elkas are too expensive to fk with anyways
Wouldn't you need!!! to re work the clutch i.e change the weights???
no not for these kind of mods. Stock is fine.
@@ATVSceneIf you’re not having to add weight to the clutch, you’re not seeing any more power.
Where are you guys located? Cheers
NE Ohio
What’s the benefits of the window on the air box lid?
It's more of a port to push more air in
Really? Would you rather breathe thru a straw or a snorkel?
People, Unless you are drag racing, Don't cut holes in your air filter lid.
Why?
@@07negative56 it’ll let dust into your engine
@@07negative56Really?
Really? Yeah. I’m new to this shit. I’m trying to learn the “do’s & do not’s.” You gotta fuckin probably with that? If you have information. Share it. Don’t be a cunt about it.
I bought my mom this machine. $12,000. I’m just lookin to make stuff last for the long term. Some times you internet people are cunts.
Hmmm what am I missing, I thought the Grizzly was a 48 HP machine , and that was showing in the 30's? What am I missing?
This is legit accurate testing at the rear wheels, not at the crank.
@@ATVScene , Ok got it.
Engines make advertised HP/TQ usually on a benchtest. It different when it's in a vehicle and actually under a measurable load, turning a driveshaft, etc.
Let us know how this works out when you put on the elka's. I ended up putting a slip on because I saw somebody with elka's and the duels and they rubbed. I also got coops mod and changed the secondary clutch spring. It's much more responsive.
I will more than likely be running piggyback Elkas in the front and Elkas with remotes with larger canisters in the rear. I may tinker with the clutch, not sure yet. I hate to lose any reliability because the main focus for this build is to make it from NC to OR without issues, more so than improving the response for racing.
Look at the LENS of the camera, not "over there" at the viewfinder. :)
18:15 quad has more in it
Good eye.. It does kinda sound like it had a little more to give there, I probably could have shot that better - it may have been a warm up run. Eric made three passes then averaged them together.
I wonder how all of this affects warranty of the ATV?
The six month warranty?
Props to this guy for what he does but, man, these newer computer controlled quads suck. My dad has a 2009 550 FI and it's hot garbage. Literally.
What about 2021 ?
It has the same problem.
I mean as in the kit ? It would be the same then really looking in to it live in Alaska and just got a 2021 700 grizzly eps xts-r new have it put together a the deal and what it to last forever and as bullet proof as possible
@@ryanburnett1864 yes, you'll have the same lean-problem with your new 2021, it's the same machine as the 2019 and 2020.
@@ATVScene it's not the same, in 2020 Yamaha lowered the gears again so it can run the 27 inch tires. My 2021 has 26" zillas and it rips ! It's like riding a Raptor, can hardly keep the front tires on the ground, it's way more responsive than my 2019. So I don't know if it needs a updated tune from EHS ???
“No way dirt or water is getting in here” *cuts giant hole on top of air box*
Just got a grizzly that 25 so he doesn't know what he's talking about, I'm planing on getting another 15 years out of it because not mud running it
$1200 USD for 5 more HP and a shit ton more noise. That sounds like a terrible deal!
I can understand where you might think that, but I have to say it's a noticeable gain. The quad is more responsive. I can now use the throttle to get over obstacles easier, which makes riding it more enjoyable. I think it's worth it.
Did I miss something? They say 700 Grizzly has 47 hp from factory. You are saying it started off at 33 hp and now $1200 later it's at 38 hp????
@@marknew4246 That's HP at the crank, you lose about 20% when you measure HP at the wheel.
Agreed.
i mean for 1200$ 5 extra horsepower isnt worth it might as well spend a little more and bore it out too a 800
If you take an expensive machine and dog the shit out of it, it will have a half life or less, change the oil regular and keep it clean
This is crazy.. a canam 570 has more power stock then a gross with all these mods.. If your buying a grizzly for power then you are slow on the head lol.. you buy a grizzly cause of comfort and reliability… if you want power you but any 570+ Polaris or canam lol.. come on people it isn’t hard to understand this..
Ok 👍
I love Yamaha but you can do what ever you want to that 700 but my 570 can am will blow it away every time sorry but its true .I no because I have had two Yamaha Grizzlies.
Gtfoh
Yeah right soy boy
Sure buddy.
@@wyoodrifter1811 agreed , having owned yamahas polaris Honda and kawasakis and a suzuki, yamaha and Honda for reliability and longevity period!
I will say I agree, wifes got 2020 grizz 700, I have 2019 king 750, daughter has 2019 570 xt canam, and the 570 twin will out run them both with ease,not even a hope or prayer of keeping up out of the hole she rolls off and just keeps pulling away
14:45 of course you can't get lower on fuel than stock because it is so primitive tuning.. it just says to the ecu that engine is cooler than it should be richer 🤣 it is so dumb, how about other important variables...
No thank you. Stock is good enough for me. 😐
@@TOMMYVQ sorry tommy I disagree. If you want to go fast you buy a go fast machine not a trail machine. The Grizzly is built to be a dependable machine. When you start doing stupid things like this there is a price to pay down the road. I am 63 years old and I have learned a lot after 50 years of riding off road. Doing these mods for a couple of HP. No thank you. Stock is good enough for me 😊
Yamaha Grizzly is officially shit.
Yamaha dropped the ball with the 708. Again going back to the 686. Then again not upgrading it with the 850. Yamaha has forgotten the Grizzly and Viking.
3 strikes Yamaha you lost a customer here.
I'd rather go with a Cfmoto than a Yamaha ATV. And I did sold my 2016 Grizzly 708 and bought a Cforce 800xc
Regardless, I would take a Yamaha over a CFMoto any day.
I got 3 miles on my Grizzly then a electric problem that took 88 days to figure out along with 2 others down the road. 3 calipers locked up. Foot brake pedal locked up. Blown both rear shocks. Body Clips rusted and seized up. Frame rusted out within 1.5 years and the motor needed to be rebuilt at 288 miles. Oh and I bent two 2" tow receivers. Trying to put in food plots. Yamaha's tow receiver are no where near HD. My Yamaha spent more time in the shop than it did in my posession.
13k is what I spent total for my 2016 Grizzly 708 eps. I spent 8k cash on my cfmoto Cforce 800xc. Definitely more machine for the dallor. The only thing I miss from Yamaha is they're CVT system.
@@joeellis2692 who makes CF moto?
@@marshallandgunner2775 Cfmoto, Chinese quad. I picked up a 2021 Cfmoto Cforce 800xc with 18 miles. 63hp.
@Joe Ellis thanks. I will check em out.