Piano was Tuned, then I played Rach 3!
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- čas přidán 1. 05. 2023
- The restored Steinway 1911 Model O (pretty large baby grand) was just tuned to A432. It has a nice vintage Steinway sound, similar to what Rachmaninoff may have experienced with home pianos back in his day. I am playing the Rachmaninoff 3rd piano concerto, starting near the beginning of the first movement, and I play a nice chunk of it that works well on solo piano. I grab the orchestra part when I can. Enjoy this lush romantic music in the ambiance of Rose Cottage!
- Hudba
it's said that Rach 3 uses every single note on the keyboard, so it must be a good test for the piano tuner 😂
Definitely the bottom and top notes, and most between!
The wood seems beautiful! As your playing
Thanks! Yes, I’ve actually yet to see another finish quite like this, It’s really beautiful. I think my grandfather had the finish restored sometime in the 60’s
One of my piano instructors once told me that I could reach this level of skill, IF I was willing to practice three to five hours a day, six days a week, for three or four years, at which point I'd be ready to start work on Rach 2 and 3, etc. Unfortunately, I hate practicing. A huge salute goes out to this pianist, and any other that has the patience, dedication, and determination to reach this level of performance. Raw talent alone is nowhere near enough.
You’re entirely right that this takes a huge amount of work, whether you’re talented or not. I happen to enjoy playing the piano so much, that it doesn’t matter what I’m playing, even with repetitive practice I am fascinated by how different ways of playing changes the sound and obsessed with finding the most efficient path. This keeps it interesting for me.
Never believe such lies. They say that to elevate themselves.
I agree with you, never to let someone else tell you that you can’t do it. However you’ve got to understand what it takes and only then can you make a wise decision about whether it makes sense to embark upon learning a piece. With Rach. 3, one must pause and consider the number of hours and intensity of practice required. Many have wisely decided that this piece isn’t for them. On the other hand, I would never presume to discourage someone that really wanted to play it, I’ll just try to help them any way I can.
@@Weimartoccata Well said, Rach 3 is difficult but not one of the most difficult. In todays time, it is just above moderate. That is just my opinion. If one just attempt it and practice correctly, then there is only increase
Even if i had the time to practice that much, my back couldn't handle it. My back muscles are screaming after only 15-30 minutes. 😢 And I don't know how to fix that.
To be able to perform such a piece so nicely nuanced, capturing the feel of each bar and section, inspires an amazing feeling in me. I really enjoyed this video!!
" ...he had arms of steel and a heart of gold". Joseph Hoffman
" ..so aristocratic were his musical thoughts , that he en-nobled whatever he played .."
Wow! Simply gorgeous! (and the music, too!)
Thank you! Cheers!
I can imagine the cascade of notes falling down like an avalanche, burying me with glorious melodies and intricate complexities. Such is the wonderment of Rach 2 and 3.
Rach is magnificent beyond words, this concerto his finest but the others too - especially the cadenza in the first movement of the first. And to think that this composer at the end of his life lived in a Tudor house in Beverly Hills, liked to drive fast cars, and was friends with Walt Disney. 19th century style romanticism and 20th century modernity.
I also particularly like his 4th, which isn’t played as much. Of course all of them are amazing and I want to play them all but not sure if I’ll have enough time. the order I would like to learn the others is: 2nd (already began), 4th, then 1st.
Lovely playing and a lovely NY model O. I had a similar one (1914) years ago. I moved and no longer had the space for it, I still regret letting it go.
Absolutely amazing playing! Bravo!
so beautiful~ thanks for playing
That was so beautiful. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Thanks for the appreciation! Rachmaninoff does always reach the heart
That was just Beautiful! 🧡🧡🧡👏👏👏🎶🎹🎶
Definitely a piece that likes a well tuned piano 🙂. I don't have perfect pitch, but my throat feels more relaxed listening to this at this pitch than 440 so I guess I'm subconsciously singing along 😄. Nicely played! 👍 I enjoyed listening. 😃
I don’t think you’re alone in feeling more relaxed listening to this tuning, not enough people realize how sound can affect our body, and it makes a difference (even subconsciously) when we hear a more natural frequency! Thanks for your thoughts
@@Weimartoccatawhat is so more "natural" about this frequency?
@@jere3558 schumann frequency is around 7.8 Hz. 430 is close to a multiple of that frequency. It’s highly subjective, as not everyone agrees that it sounds good, and also the Schumann resonance can fluctuate. hmm maybe I should do a video on this topic sometime…
@@Weimartoccata that doesn't answer my question on why it is more "natural".
@@jere3558 the Schumann frequency is a natural resonance of earth. that’s the main reason people make the claim. If you ask me to find an A4 that sounds to me to be the truest A, I tend towards selecting A 430ish. So for that reason, I think it’s more natural. but that’s subjective and most people can’t even hear the difference between A432 and A440 unless they’re played one after the other. Hope that helps
You are truly born to Rach. Fascinating work.
Flyin' fingers strike again😅
That´s what I do when I see a piano
Nice! 👏👏👏👏
wonderful performance😃 love from China
Thank you so much James! So pleased to see that my playing is being enjoyed all around the world ! 🙏
Astonishing. Can't wait to hear more 🙂
SUUUUUPER excelent played !!!!
Great playing :)
That was lovely playing those first few pages… the nuanced dynamic. And the goodness continued. Excellent.
thanks! interesting to hear this without orchestra I think
.I had a typo. I meant lovely playing
You have amazing talent.
Thanks, as Bach used to say, S.D.G.!
Amazing!! ❤
Thank you! 😄
very very good🎉🎉🎉
Nice work buddy. Very tough slogging
I can do this too, but with nowhere near the clarity of your performance. My Rach 2 is much clearer. I did the Grieg with an orchestra (However, I used the music). I really admire your clarity, precision and sticking to a steady tempo. My congratulations! You play beautifully! I hope you someday get an opportunity to play with an orchestra. There are a number of amateur orchestras you might consider contacting. I got my chance because I was "active" in support of our community orchestra. The conductor allowed me to practice with them. He also offered me the opportunity to become the pianist for the orchestra. But I had the full-time occupation as a surgeon and did not have the time. I did operate the conductor's wife and also took care of numerous orchestra members, as patients.
Good luck!
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
Retired surgeon
Thanks so much for the kind words! Yes I am definitely interested in contacting a few smaller orchestras that I have connections with, I am waiting till I have the whole piece memorized though 😅
@@Weimartoccata At your technical level, I can see no reason why you will not succeed in bringing up to performance level. There is a scherzo section in the second movement that is played very fast and is very hard to play.
I'd recommend you copy the music of that section and enlarge it with a printer. The notes are very small, and it presents a challenge to see them. This passage is very chromatic and seeing the pattern is the key.
I don't think you need to be perfectly accurate for that section. I think you can muddy it a little with pedal and get along fine. (I realize that is scary advice).
The last movement does not have to be played at full tempo to be beautiful. It is actually better that way. A conductor of an amateur orchestra will be GLAD you slow it down.
Just some thoughts.
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
Well, you play this beautiful masterpiece very well but believe me or not all Rachmaninoff´s works like a well tuned piano as a must! I know something about it. I wish you all the best and keep on playing.
Well done. The nicely judged pedaling…on the sparse side, is welcome. At 3:25 the 3 against 2 was good. Your left hand was always honest.. all notes there.
Thanks! I’m definitely a stickler for getting polyrhythms accurate-they pop up so often in Rach. and Chopin (like nocturnes or 4th Ballade)
@@Weimartoccata The “Fantasy” Impromptu.. every young pianists major test of accuracy and rhythmic acuity. Musicality as well.. siinging tone.
The third piano concerto is my absolute favorite!! Wow, how fantastic your interpretation is 🤩🥹
This was absolutely stunning!! Did you ever played it with orchestra?
I subscribed for more 👍🏻🎶
I am glad you enjoyed! My dream is to play it with orchestra someday. I haven’t played a piano concerto with an actual orchestra before, but have done two-piano recitals.
I agree - therefore I converted YUJA
....and now it is untuned again 😅😉 nice played. I am learning it too.
You are so good , I hardly dare offering some positive criticizm
to make it better
Thank you! Constructive feedback is always welcome. I went to music school, where we must be used to criticism or won’t make it 😁
@@Weimartoccata
I m going to listen again to be sure
First I thought You played to fast and also there is the pedal
But your overal playing is perfect, really unbelievable
@@Weimartoccata It no point anymore
It was to play calmer and some pedal
and you did all that in the DUO performance which I adore too
Yes each time you like playing again, stream it - WOW
What I adore with YUJA is her attack mode whhere you hear staccato as I never heard but that is no criticism oof yours
@@4scheveningen I agree with you and I’m honored to even be compared to Yuja, at any rate I’m sure I haven’t logged NEARLY as many hours on this piece as she has. We are planning on posting our next rehearsal too, hopefully with some production upgrades and after lots more PRACTICE 😁😁
@@Weimartoccata I m honored you reply and She is just dancing the keys.
Look forward to whatever you do.
Pretty good
Wich cadenza would you play if you will post the entire first movement ?
Ossia is what I play.
Great
Wonderful playing. But dear me, why A432??
are you a piano tuner? I only ask because usually they are the ones that balk at it. I like the sound of A432 (or actually A430.1 ish). If you ask me to find the perfect a out of thin air, it’s what I gravitate towards. Also, when I sing in this frequency it feels great in my voice. so for me it’s more “natural”.
@@Weimartoccata Haha, yes, I am (as well as a high school English teacher). If 430-432 works well for you, stick with it! It won't do the piano any harm, unless you're constantly changing the pitch up and down. What tuners tend to dislike is "woo" about 432Hz being a pitch of universal harmony, or some such!
I think you have the same score I have based on the page turns
May as well tune it to 430hz so you’re at Standard Continental pitch, the exact pitch Grieg and Brahms played at. Rachmaninoff and Scriabin played at 439hz or 440hz however.
not only that, but at 430, it will be very very close to a multiple of the schumann frequency of earth. In my opinion the best sounding tuning. I’m seriously considering going down to 430.1. with pianos you have to take it down incrementally though or risk it going quickly out of tune. Oh, and by the way how did you figure out what Rachmaninoff and Scriabin used? I haven’t done the research and am curious 🧐
Don't you just love those big, fat chords? 😅
I consider your playing gorgeous
Perhaps a backing tape exists
check it out with orchestra part if you like: Salon run-thru w/ 2nd Piano!
czcams.com/video/EcLLG4fjuIA/video.html
Have you heard of Yunchan Lim?
Yes, how could I not? he’s all over my youtube feed, haha. Fantastic pianist. Although, I’m actually more a fan of Trifonov myself 😆
I listened again
With Yuja it's the conductor
He & yuja tell stories with spaces between the chapters to have breath
You are technically equaL to Yuja, TIFFANY, LANG LANG, . . . BETTER THAN ALGGERICH
WHO AM I To SAY ALL THIS
I CANNOT READ NOTES EVEN
A good conductor definitely adds another dimension! I will be working on dialing in the timing and pauses in my playing. Your words are very kind, but I don’t think I’m quite technically equal to Yuja or Martha yet… but when I get a nice stretch of 4-5 hr practice days I should be closer!! 😅
@@Weimartoccata
I first thought you were a teacher but reading yours I dropped the idea
I glad I found you on youtube
czcams.com/video/2YKaWVxac5k/video.html
Anti Gravity chprds are in the 432Hz and hitler CUM SUIS repeat CUM SUIS tried to obscure even more to avoid free clean energy.
The Cheops G = 777;6. os in the Keely Chord bit there are more
Ask IBM. Q 512QUBIT system
to be fair it was already a bit out of tune but anyone who can play the rach 3 can clickbait me anytime
haha-thanks, the piano is specifically tuned to 432hz, so I dunno if that’s what you were hearing. This is literally right after tuner left. glad you didn’t mind the clickbait 😉
I’ve played this most iconic and
Monumental piece for the piano . Your tone, temperament and Virtuosity are just perfect.
Hope to hear from you!
Thank you so much, I will post more once my schedule clears out in a week or so!