Eddie Van Halen on 5150 album production
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- A short news clip: Eddie Van Halen explains their choice of producing the 5150 album themselves along with Mick Jones of Foreigner. This was Van Halen's first album not produced by Ted Tembleman.
Awesome!! Thanks!!
Mick is incredible and the album is one of the best Rock albums of all time
Agreed but it had jack shit to do with Mick Jones
I miss the Ted Templeman produced albums. I personnaly think that Ted was able to pull something special out of Eddie, and/or he mixed the album in a certain way such that Eddie's parts stood out more.
You are so correct...from 8yrs ago lol
Hahahaha! You don't know how little Ted did except ripoff the band . Look at Dave and the Halen Bros talk about the music biz while promoting A Different Kind of Truth , it's a 2part clip on CZcams . Donn Landee should get all the credit for Van Halen til after OU812 .
Ted Templeton, who produced all the Van Halen albums up to this, is a recording God. Eddie learned from the best.
Uh, he DID NOT produce 1984, that was done by Landee and Eddie, alone in that studio. Ted got some things right but he always trying to mold Eddie to HIS will and Eddie was sick of it.
That's Grace Slick's kid.
JB
Ted didn't care. He got the Dave gig to work on Eat 'Em and Smile and that did just as well as 5150.
I loved both versions of VH. You have to treat them as different chapters as the music will always change markedly when you change vocalists as different as Dave and Sam.
Now VH without Mike - that's bogus!
hey I didnt know tonya harding was a music reporter.
LMFAO!!!!!! Hee hee hee hee hee that assholes and airport shit is hillarious!!!!!
He's drinking a beer in the interview.
JB
That's grace slicks daughter.
ya know what though , when acdc let go mutt".
and did flick of the switch by themselves it was one of their best hard sounding lps ,
> but the album's really got too poppy after 1984
Dave's solo stuff was even more poppy. It's just no one remembers that because the material wasn't memorable.
Doesn't take away from the fact that VH got poppy on 5150 and OU812. Both sounds were too poppy.
That's not quite what he's saying. Ed can do both: He can play (all) the instruments, and he also has the completed picture in his head. Ed is one of the very few artists that understands the whole technical process top to bottom, but I agree that it's usually better to have an unbiased ear overseeing the final product.
He and Donn Landee made the 1984 demo with Ed playing all the instruments to play to the rest of the band . That's when trouble started between Dave and Ed . Dave didn't want keyboards . For one reason it's kinda hard for Ed to play both instruments live and sequencers weren't so great back then I guess .
Ed, Ted took those demo tapes VH produced with Gene Simmons and made them sound great. Don't knock Ted. He really gave VH its sound. You've never been able to recapture it either.
I'd like to hear a re-mix of "5150"...if theres a re-do of "EOMS" then why not...
yes actually, but i still love sammy
Kind of weird they never returned to him and only did one more album with Don landee but returned to Ted T but then with Andy Johns which was way overdue then Bruce Fairbairn and Alanis Morrisette guy. I don't think VH will ever record again and Shanks did a fairly good job with what he had. As I stated before the debate always continues perhaps Patty Smyth should have gotten a gig maybe Eddie and her would have gotten married LOL
I agree. but this IS eddie van halen we're talking about here, so I'd say in his case a producer should leave the big picture thing to him.
man he looked really healthy bak in their glory days
Everyone says that ole Dave is the better Rock Star, Sammy the better singer. To me Dave is even the better singer. Sammy knows one tone, it's a badass tone but it gets boring. Dave has MUCH more soul. Ah well the debate will always rage on... cheers to both but the album's really got too poppy after 1984 so I stick with my fellow Hoosier, Dave.
He meant with Sammy who joined the same year, genius
no shit mick they were together for several years already
Joey Hopersberger uh, no they weren’t, lol. It was their first album together as this band
Sammy is still rocking!!!
@guitquick ive seen dave live twice and the guy simply cant sing and why does everyone forget how poppy daves solo stuff was when they are complaining about van halen/hagar?
but dude listen to F.U.C.K that is hard core stuff
@guitquick if you compare van halen to van hagar i can buy that but in 1985 we had 4 choices ,like both solo dave and van hagar,like solo dave,like van hagar or niether and i think van hagar blew solo dave away.
If I could change one thing about the 5150 album it would be removing the electronic drums. Al should go back and redo the drums, that would be amazing.
Eat 'em and Smile wasn't poppy at all, still sounded raw like a Van Halen album. Lots of people remember it and still go on about it. The next album he put out (one with Livin in Paradise) was definitely too poppy and the 3rd album very forgetable. But I still choose Dave over Sammy any day of the week.
Love Eddie but he has a hard time giving people credit ie: Mick Jones. And Mick is a very humble person.
What? Mick ain't humble he just sounds that way coz he's softly spoken. MJ still gets residuals from that album that he ultimately had fk all imput into. Did you realise it was written before he arrived? I love that album but sound wise it sucks compared to 1984.
Conclusion T.Templeman is 1000x the producer Mick Jones is.
EVH is totally wrong about the producer's job. The producer is the "Big Picture" guy. While the musicians are all in the forest lobbing for their part to be bigger and their instrument to be louder the producer listens and helps the band achieve what their vision is. At least a good producer does that. I always felt that we were all serving the song. Whatever was best for that particular song is what we did. So that's what a producer does. Basically. Ego wrangling is needed too!
... take your pills Dave.
@Pat9201 I love Dave's voice (live too) and yes his stuff is definitely pop but it is so unique. I like the Van Hagar stuff but it is so bland compared to the old days with Dave.
uh.....next topic: mayo or Miracle Whip?
he looks stoned
By listening to Eddie, you can tell he is a heavy smoker. But im sure it was those evil "picks" he was chewing on that did it. No way can smoking cause cancer.
As to knowing better than EVH, I don't claim to know better it's just my opinion that he is wrong about the role of the producer, and exactly which Van Halen album did he produce on his own again??? BTW I stopped listening after 5150. Atomicfile22: Yes I was a pro producer but I'm retired now. I never made it big but I made a good living recording records for independent bands. I am still a pro musician doing my own material. Peace, Love & Ice Creame!
@guitquick Ohhhhhh I so disagree with you...DLR can yell and girate his hips, that's all. Sammy can sing and more than one tone, he has a great range, but to each their own. I will ALWAYS love Van Halen better with Sammy Hagar, in fact, I own all Van Halen CD's except the ones with DLR. Eww just the thought of him irritates me.
@chimptor50 are you a producer or proffecional musician?
Well that pop album sold 5 million copies js...then by 93 van Halen was playing sold out concerts while Dave was playing clubs waiting on eddies son grow up n call him lol
@Pat9201 well you know art is like food - it's all opinion. but.. I think Eat 'Em and Smile is better than every Van Hagar album combined
Eddie dissed everyone back then, Roth, Templeman etc etc. He had anger issues then & has anger issues now. Get help Eddie, don't let your talent and LIFE go to waste.
@Dodgethiz 80s
I will be the odd man out here happily, because the comments I'm reading are such crap and I totally disagree with. Glad I have taste!
(begin sarcasm) oh yes, because every Van Hagar song was poppy. (end sarcasm) -_-
@frankenstrat25
hahahaha
is that a joke??
What a waste.