Defining Consistency - The L'etranger [TF2]
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
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i ask that you pay no mind to my "ass eater 3000" jerma sapper skin
did you happen to ask a genie for it
Coward, you should purposely draw attention to it instead
its so good
Kinda sounds better than my "I don't have ADS" amby
If you look at the abbys for too long the abbys glances back and so does the ass eater 3000.
The worst part of the L'etranger is probably that it's so good that I've become dependant on it, I struggle using any other revolver
aka its a crutch for new players
@@CannyBow I'm not new, just overly used to the L'etranger. I have been experimenting more with other revolvers as well as the YER and C&D though, and I think that's helping me slowly break the habit.
I guess there's a discussion to be had about the L'etranger being a potential newbie trap, but I think the difference between it and something like the Black Box is that the Black Box lowers the skill ceiling with the lower clip size, while the L'etranger lowers the skill floor with the extra cloak.
For me it's kind of the opposite, I find the damage penalty pretty punishing since I'm a fan of picking fights with out of position power classes, which the revolver does an excellent job of letting me handle them from a safe distance. To do the same thing with the l'etranger you either gotta be closer or fight them for longer and neither is really a good option. I'm already used to the default cloak times so I don't really feel constrained by it tbh
Try the enforcer :3
@@lostielizzie My favourite thing about the Enforcer is that it can oneshot Kunai + Dead Ringer spies :D Sometimes what you need to defeat a spy is another spy :3 Thanks for the recommendation!
The real worst part of the L'Etranger is that 90% of TF2 players will just call it the L'Etranger and the other 10% will correct them that the L' already means the so it's just L'Etranger
chaotic evil calls it the entranger
The The Etranger
@@doozy5184 Le L'etranger
The stranger
@@DatHypnoboiisn't it a reference to Camus work?
0:36 that muffled cut scream kills me
If we weren't living in a dictatorship and a man could marry a revolver, it would be this one for me
finally someone who speaks my language
This isn’t the only time I’ll say it, what is bro yapping about 🗣🦘🦛🦃🐕
I honestly think you did the gain cloak on hit stat dirty. The synergy it has with the DR & Kunai is insane because it effectively allows a hyper-aggressive playstyle with the Kunai that beckons to the ammo recharging DR of old. You get kunai stab, via trickstab or not it does not matter, you use DR to tank incoming damage (and more importantly, save overheal), decloak and you stab again very soon after, you shoot 2-3 times max (if you pop DR very quickly), use massive speed + DMG resist (and overheal) to constantly bruteforce stabs nonstop, rinse and repeat. Its even more dirty than the DR kunai amby combo because it fully maximizes how much time you eek out of that overheal from each stab (to brute force chain another one).
Also letranger and dead ringer is the obly """"viable"""" combo for mvm
Oh god, the even MORE immortal Kunai dead ringer spy...
what about using Big Earner instead in this combo? I'm not that good as a spy yet to try out being at 70hp. Big Earner doesnt heal but I figured it 1) gives speed boost for extra chain stab, 2) recharges DR even faster
@@user-25352 I love that loadout! Honestly i think its equal in power to the kunai in that loadout. The speed and cloak regen on backstab from the big earner can make you just as annoying and hard to kill like the kunai lol.
Awesome vid, I always enjoy the way you go in depth and include examples of stats and use cases that you mention. Highlighting all the ways the 40% cloak can be used was very interesting
The most consistent part of this gun is how I always use it
one of my favorite parts of the french invisible gun, on both 2fort and harvest, you can get from your spawn room, to the enemies spawn room, with out ammo packs.
i also use it on thunder mountain with the C&D to terrorize engies, snipers and heavies
Saying the gunboats is the pseudo stock option is both wrong and asinine, we all know the right answer is the bison.
The revelation that this specific gun benefits spy probably even more consistently than the diamondbacks and yet the diamondback is hated but this never gets much discussion made me think that it’s not even the ease of diamondback’s utility that triggers people, it’s that said ease is Immediately traceable to being shot in the face for critical damage, while the longer cloak duration is never noticed by anyone, ironically, despite it very much leading to the spy killing more people more often than is the case with diamondback.
It's honestly refreshing watching a mid-tier skilled player get a leg in on TF2, like I've got 5k hours in the game and only play a tiny bit better than you do. No need to be top of your game to weigh in on things, great stuff.
Quick nitpick, "L'" is already a contraction of "The", so your title right now translates to: "The the stranger"
ahem gentlemen
@@AshleysBrother
_Straightens up tie_
Petite pinaille, "The" est déjà une extension de "L'", donc votre titre se traduit par : "L'L'Stranger"
L'fuck?
@@GunSpyEnthusiast
The word needs to begin with a vowel if you want to use the contraction
3:12 that Ragdoll tho
the man, the myth, the LEGEND
The "lit ranger"
Huge day for fans of durrbill
Yooooo! Calamity Outro?!?! Love to see it
Awsome vid ❤
Alot of spies weapon are based on doing damage things that can get you extra damage in certain situations. Yet it's the gun that does less damage (which yes actually does suck alot, the revolver does alot of damage.) But the usefulness of having longer cloak and getting it back with shots too is so good in most cases.
Also you really underplayed the cloak on hit, massively you may it seem pretty much useless. When in reality it's very useful in many cases such as just shooting people when you're cloak runs out and run away again. I felt like you looked at it like you had to kill people with it and even you said that's not it's job. Like holy shit it's such a huge help even if you don't realize it. It's like a over powered character in a fighting game you don't notice how powerful one of their tools is because they have something so much more fucking powerful.
Although I think it's the best gun give the other weapons a shot they can be surprisingly effective and if you haven't play spy recently you might find some fun with other guns.
Incredible Vibe
Simple Effective Summary
Greatwork
Now pair It with The CAD and Become:
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I love using this revolver with the cloak and dagger and big earner for the ultimate cloak kit. I have more charge, can remain it in for as long as i want, and backstabs can replenish it when making risky plays with it's faster drain.
engineer loadout is fine, i'd recommend playing around with the panic attack since it might make it easier to hit the balls at closer range
As a spy main, it's like adding a frame on the base of an unstable tower it helps, but ain't no way spy is consistent...which is why I love him no 2games are the same BECAUSE of how unconsistent he is
Yet having a little consistency is nice cuz when I try bad loadouts it's either extreme high but usually extreme low so it helps negates the low even if I can't have inf crits cuz I moved my mouse funny(still makes my brain happy when I use it tho)
I tend to play C&D + L'etranger + Stock Knife. I mostly dislike relying on enemies being dumb to make disguises work so being able to stay invisible as much as I can between picks is my go-to playstyle.
Being able to afford not running away AND able to afford running away between stabs is great
also I just don't trust the other daggers to not fuck me over with things like lower base health or inability to disguise in the field
i have the ultimate Gun-SpapS loadout, i call it the invincible le trollos
you have the dead finger, l'troller, and the frozen cumcicle, you have infinite cloak and you are immune to fire 99% of the time
i only use it with the eternal reward cos it can overcome the downside lol
+15% cloak on hit is meant to give you a chance to escape if you are caught surrounded by enemies without any cloak. What this means is that this gun should be used not for combat, but for getting cloak to run away. Also another thing I noticed is that in some of your clips you were surrounded by entire enemy team with full cloak meter, but for some reason you continue to fight them and just die horribly.
Opening bit: “I love the L’Etranger more than my son”
Opining for “+40% cloak duration” section: “I hope these are my firstborn’s first words.”
Therefore: The aforementioned unloved son is the bastard child of durbill’s significant other whom the two have agreed to keep under wraps.
As a gunspy main, it's honestly still a good weapon if your aim is on point with the DR. Sure, you deal a lot less damage but you become practically impossible to kill if you combine it with the spycicle. You can keep that cloak up and do moderate damage almost constantly.
I just prefer outright killing most of the time, so I use stock most often. Nothing quite like pecking through the enemy team one player at a time with 40ish damage at a moderate range, amirite?
glad to see someone else in the l'etranger > diamondback camp
NOOO DONT TELL THEM, NOW THEY WILL EXPECT IT
That Engineer will haunt my dreams until the day I die. SO if that was the goal- Congrats!
L'etranger + Dead Ringer = Immortal Spy.
10:50 ight im gonna bring this up, small ammo packs give 20% of total ammo, medium packs give 50%, large 100%. Thats why engies get 40, 100, and 200 metal from each respective pack. The cloak amount with L'Etranger is _larger_ and so gains 50% of a 14 second cloak; getting 7 seconds, so the explanation that you get more cloak per pack was kinda silly
As a spy that runs YER, stock revolver and C&D i gotta wonder just necessary that cloak is
Then again, I'm not exactly the best at that whole staying alive thing
But then again again, I really dont think that ever tends to be the fault of running out of cloak
Great for the very consistent gun based spy play style despite having a 20% dmg penalty. Especially if you are very careful when choosing your fights.
I know TF2 updates are kinda gone forever, but I think an effective way to "nerf" L'Etranger is to buff Spy's base cloak duration by 1 second and bring L'Etranger's cloak duration increase down by the same amount to compensate. Spy's base cloak duration feels extremely miserable to work with, so most Spy players feel forced to use L'Etranger even if they'd like to give other revolvers a try.
0:47 Y'know how Spy looks like he's aiming when crouched? With that bandana, Durrbill must've looked super nerdy.
Seeing you getting trickstabs like its nothing is...embarrassing for me i spent 200h on spy yet i cant even do a normal backstab let alone a trickstab
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some good old deus ex machina here 12:16
3:14 funny ragdoll
everyone mentioning how durrbill pronounces l'étranger wrong but... fun fact, the weapon itself is actually a reference to a novel by the same name (or the stranger, if you read the english translation)
which is especially funny when you know what causes the second half of the story... :)
i feel that with "Refusing to use the Revolver" i also had that problem until i finally got a bit aim and Started to Fully use Spys kit
This will sound dumb, but I swear to god I have pin point accuracy when running the Le Trenger. I have pretty good accuracy with stock and diamond back, but with this thing I never miss shots and am consistently gunning down soldiers and medics. It is the weirdest thing.
This revolver is insanely good. I'd use it if the diamondback werent just absolutely broken
YT auto captions get really confused when trying to spell L'etranger from audio.
It ended up thinking "Electron" was a suitable name for a revolver. Great job YT.
Edit: "Ion" was apparently another good candidate in YTs eyes.
Edit 2: The Letranger is now called "Elect J"
"Leon" is also great (This is all within 4 minutes)
Babe wake up new durrbill video just dropped
3:13 funny ragdoll 😂👍💪🐸🗣️🔥🍷🗿💀
1:42
Imagine shooting someone 125 time to do 4 damage
damn i never knew about the cloak on hit because it’s always just been an extra 4 seconds of invisibility
Every soldier ive seen uses the shotgun when I play pyro though. Never seen a medic without a crossbow or pyro without powerjack though.
i find it way easier to aim with the l’etranger than any other revolver tbh 😭
I mean that Engineer is basically classic Battle Engie alt, if you're not running the Widowmaker you're probably running something like that. It's a good loadout.
This video was great, but that Engineer loadout is even better.
letranger with big earner and dead ringer is peak gunspy
i can also recommend replacing the chrome dome with the party hat
Thank you for calling out the Diamondback haters.
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon music spotted ❤
me when new durrbill video ---> :D
So basically the purpose if this video is that Le'tranger Dead Ringer gunspy is competetivaly viable.
I might be a heavy main. I might never ever play or played spy that much.
But this is a great video to watch nonetheless. Very interesting and very informative.
Good video thank you
That loadout really cought me
3:25 Hey! How did you get a clip of my gameplay??? That's clearly me missing every shot
Woah I played you on upward the other day and then you came out with a vid after i assumed you gave up youtube
13:07 tf2 funny ragdoll
mfw spy has a gun
IM SORRY THE CLOAK AND WHAT??
8:26 The cloak and WHAT?
Funnily enough, I personally think playing gunspy increases the consistency of spy the most.
0:53 lol
Legit the only weapon in this entire game that i treat as the stock lol
I’ve finally found the guy who pronounces it not like “Htohoto”
Seeing someone else not consider the Diamondback an overpowered menace is giga based
Why do your ragdolls do that in the footage starting from 1:59
WOOOOO SULPHUROUS SEA
6:42 ass eater 3000
You know what is consinstant? playing better spy and not dying after every kill.
erm actually l’etranger means “the stranger” so the title is saying “the the stranger” ☝️🤓
I play Big Spy, the gun is too Small for me.
dope terraria outro
12:43 it's me
Good video! I like your analysis of the stats and their applicability. Not a lot of people are so insightful about these things. Did you notice you're saying item names wrong? You pronounced L'etranger fine, but it's not "The L'etranger". Some item names in TF2 start with "the", but l'etranger is not one of them. Neither is Your Eternal Reward. This is still better than other videos about this item because you did not make an unfunny joke about not wanting to learn the pronunciation, and even the tf2 wiki gets this wrong.
Thank you! Yeah it's an interesting little conundrum because I was aware of the weapon's actual name, it's just more a matter of certain preference I think when it comes to saying it in English, in the context of being an item in a game. I *personally* think saying "When I use L'etranger..." is something that might distract viewers who don't quite get it, so it's a fair enough sacrifice to make to technically be wrong but a bit more understandable. Even if the Spy would personally turn my body into string cheese for thinking so
I love how people keep calling it *The* L'etranger, it's French, the "L'" already means "The". You basically saying "The the stranger"
Epic
Use the Widowmaker instead of stock its insanely consistent
true
8:25 140% of 7 seconds is 9.8 seconds, not 8.2.
I genuinely think it's a little overtuned, the standard revolver struggles to compare. It might be healthier for the game if they reduce the cloak duration buff of the l'etranger to +20% and just apply the other +20% to spy in general. Or otherwise just reduce the cloak duration buff to +20% and that's it. Really, the only reason the L'etranger isn't considered broken is because the diamondback is really stupid and the ambassador is still kind of a beast after the nerfs
I use enforcer :3
the " l' " part of l'étranger already means "the" in french, saying the l'étranger is the same as saying the the stranger, you could just say "I use l'étranger" not "I use the l'étranger", it would make more sense
Just tried out the le tranger and it fucking fun af
"L'" is an article it's like you are calling it the the stranger 🤓
Interestingly, despite defining a class, TF2 is not the greatest game at that, sure most classes will be defined or can be slightly reworked due to one specific gamemode, but in my opinion, I am looking at the engineer and noticed everything contains something that isn't stock, except for the construction PDA.
I miss the Enforcer being good
Honestly, you should use the Enforcer to practice your aim. It already shoots 20% slower, so you can't spam out your shots.
letranger just gives you more oppotunities while diamondback just increases your rewards.
done, no more videos needed we can delete tf2 content form youtube now.
hi durrbill