For Bones to Peaches: Alchemist room is very click intensive, took me about 1 hour and 15 minutes. (300 points) Graveyard room is even more click intensive, took me about 1 hour. ( 200 points) Telekinetic room is kinda chill, but you'll get bored over time. Points are really slow. Took me about 2 hours. (200 points) Enchantment room is very click intensive, but very fast points, took me around 45 minutes. (2000 points) So I had Bones to Peaches unlocked after 5 hours. Now I can complete the Lumbridge hard diary xD.
One point to two law runes means points needed TIMES 2 to get number of law runes, not divided by 2. All of your formulas from the beginning are straight up the opposite of what you say later, making your initial law calculations of runes needed off by a factor of 4. That’s a huge error margin and makes the first 2 minutes of the video and the suggested calculations utterly useless. 7/10 video, 0/10 on the maths mate
Grinding for Bones to Peaches in one sitting as follows: 67 Minutes for Alchemist Points, 42 Minutes for Graveyard Points, 63 Minutes for Telekinetic Points, 17 Minutes for Enchantment Points. I was doing all of this as efficiently and fast as I could (Tedious stuff makes my brain melt) Total time = 3Hrs 9Mins. Good luck homies hope my info helps.
Glad to see an updated MTA guide. :D well put together guide. I've posted the required runes after speaking with some ironmen who've done mta before for all the following. I've just finished b2p and boots myself. book\wand to be completed at a later date. :) Required runes assuming you are using level 5 enchant. (lvl 68) Bones to peaches: 360 laws, 1100 natures, 810 cosmics infinity boots: 220 laws, 460 natures, 500 cosmics master wand: 850 laws, 2000 natures, 1970 cosmics book: 900 laws, 2100 natures, 2450 cosmics
Ty for this, I'm ultimately going for 77 mage for lunars superglass spell because I had the pleasure of 3 tick mining sandstone from 60-70 mining. Which I acquired 35k buckets of sand and with 77 magic those 35k turn to 56k and get me 85 crafting even before I start blowing them into orbs or lens. I'm 70 mage now and I might as well tackle MTA to get b2p, inf boots and master wand and alch or burst the rest of the xp needed. Your math calculations are appreciated because one can only hop so many times at mage bank before they contemplate playing Russian roulette with a fully loaded revolver. So thanks again, and gl with any and all future and present grinds!
I few things I worked out as I went that might be helpful for some people. Start off with the graveyard room, and don't worry about eating. Go until you are low hp, then do one of the other rooms. Wait until you are healed up (use rapid healing prayer if available), then repeat. This will be roughly the same speed overall, since you don't waste clicks on eating bananas, and it will be less click intensive for your hand. Just don't forget to hand in your coins before you leave the alchemist room. If you are semi-afking anyway, you collect an inventory of thingos in the enchanting room then use the enchant spell on one of them. It will enchant them all, but a bit slower than the more click intensive method. This will give you around 30-60 seconds to go do something else, and again will help your hand. Two activities in OSRS have caused me hand pain - blackjacking, and mage training arena - so I'm always on the lookout to make things less click intensive without too much of an xp/hour hit.
Also another tip for the graveyard room I figured out: Bring baskets of strawberries (they heal 1-6 hp each and 5 fit inside 1 basket). I was able to stay inside to make 80 points per run.
Speaking of blackjacking, if you're looking for a less click-intensive way of training thieving, consider 1-click summer sq'irks in the Sorceress Garden minigame. Blackjacking sounds like a pain in the butt (and hand, apparently). Never really done it myself, so I don't know the XP rates you're getting, but each glass of summer sq'irk juice turned in to Osman yields 3,000 XP. With the inventory setup I take in, I usually end up with 22-24 glasses per trip depending on my remaining run energy, so 66,000-72,000 XP per trip. The most labor intensive part of it is setting up the guards, but that takes only a few minutes, and after that it's pretty chill. There are some really good videos on how to get everything set up, super straightforward.
@@HooInTheShule starting at around 85 thieving you get 250k exp/h blackjacking. Blackjacking isn't quite as bad as people make it out to be using mousekeys although still very action intensive
@@aymack4648 Unfortunately, I'm not able to use mousekeys since the laptop I play on doesn't have a numeric keypad. Which reminds me, I still need to go into the BIOS to toggle my F-key functions off media controls so that I can actually use the in-game keybinds effectively .
Good guide. The best way to do the Graveyard is to get the first 4 bones, then make fruit and deposit them. Then take 8 bones, make fruit, deposit. 8 more bones, make fruit, deposit, etc. Every 8 bones after the first 4 is 20 bananas.
2:13 the runes needed for alchemist playground is 3.33x points needed not points needed/3.33. That is where most of the cost for mta is. Edit: also its more like 3, since you sometimes its free to alch in the room
On the grave yard room, I used hp cape, a regen brace(for 4x natural hp restoration rate) and 3 phoenix necklace in inventory. That alone allowed me to get 100 points without stopping to eat anything. Just swap out the necklace when you get to 10% hp and it restores your health
In case anyone opens these replies, if you don't have hp cape and regen brace, an alternative I used was running a cheap, high healing food mule into the room to drop 7-8 food items on the ground and run back out. This does require an alt account with membership but if you have access to that, it's an incredible timesaver. You just pick that up for healing and dont waste time clicking 6 bananas every invent, i'd say it almost doubles your speed on this room. Need cheap, high healing food? There's potato & cheese at warriors guild for 10 coin a bob, 16 hp. There's probably better alternatives out there but I wouldn't know I mainly play on a GIM.
Thanks for the guide :) Just wanted to correct the runes needed for Alchemy: Natures = Points needed / 0.3 So for the master wand you'll need 800nats = 240 points / 0.3
Tip for the graveyard room I figured out: Bring baskets of strawberries (they heal 1-6 hp each and 5 fit inside 1 basket). I was able to stay inside to make 80 points per run.
Wow, amazing easy guide. I have never done this before and ALWAYS avoided it because there were no efficient guides out there for dummies like me. This is PERFECT!!!
Great guide! Thank you very much. Im glad I found this guide before doing it, otherwise I would have done graveyard for all my pieces at once, rather than getting B2P first. (@ 8:00) Thank you for the advice!
Not sure if anyone has caught this but the formula for runes needed in the Alchemist Playground is reversed, it should be points multiplied by 3.33, not divided by. Each cast at full efficiency nets 30 coins, so one point every 4th cast. Otherwise a great guide.
You know what, I normally don’t subscribe. But something about you having less that 4% of viewers subscribed made me feel some type of way. Great guide. Keep up the good vids!
graveyard : bring prayer pots for redemption when hitting below 10% + rapid heal telekenetic : bring stamina pots / weight reduce enchantment : done do bonus, just spam enchant, should be done less than 30mins. alchemist room: HELL
I have a good tip for the graveyard room. Bring prayer pots! Use redemption prayer. Redemption heals you for 1/4 of your hitpoints level. So at level 80 prayer, redemption will heal you for 20 hp. Essentially 1 prayer pot would heal you 80 hp at that level.
Great guide. When I'm on mobile, I usually do the enchantment and telekinetic room since there less intensive and U don't need runelite for these rooms. When I'm on runelite, I focused on the alchemist and graveyard room just to make it easier.
My account stats and time: 74 Agility 80 Hitpoints 76 Mage My time: 1h 20min = Alch Room (high concentration my wrist hurt like a mofo) 1h = Graveyard Room (used 15 strawberry’s bucket and Redemption Prayer with W330 and house Tablets in between) [Always leave the room at 6hp and eat upstairs] 2h 30min = Telekinetic Room (was fairly afk watched streams etc) 16min = Enchantment Room (just did lvl 5 enchant and always used only one non specific Rock) Completion time: 5hours 1 minute Conclusion: Is it worth for diary? Fuck no they should lower that shit. But your belladonna seed will be finished by the end of your training Thanks for the guide my guy!
Couple of things to note: The Alchemist's Playground does *not* preserve extra coins dropped in the Chute. Example, if you drop 105 gp, you will receive 1 point. If you drop 195 gp, you will receive 1 point, and you can't go back and drop another 5 gp to get an additional point. Conversely, the Creature Graveyard *does* preserve extra points. So if you drop 20 fruit, you get 1 point for the 16 you dropped, plus the extra 4 carry over to your next drop. Therefore, if you always drop 20 fruit, every 4th drop you'll get 2 points instead of 1. This can make it well worthwhile to bring alternate food or healing methods (Phoenix Necklace, Regen Bracelet, Redemption+Rapid Heal+PPots, etc), so that 100% of your fruit can go down the chute.
Additional note, for Graveyard, 4x1-point bones + 4x4-point bones = 20 fruit, and 4x2-points + 4x3-points. It's worth it during setting up the room to pick up and drop bones until you're in that pattern, because the bone piles will always give you 4 of each bone, in order, before cycling back to 1.
Damn I wish I had this guide when I did it. Like you, I noticed the guides were pretty vague and dated so I just went and tortured myself there until I got the hang of it
BTW to save peoeple time, the nature runes needed for alchemist playground is (points needed) / 0.3 This assumes no mistakes so get a few more in case you alch an item that is not worth 30 coins.
Graveyard, bring your own food preferly brews .. make it so much bearable and faster since u dont have to stand around and eat 4 bannans every single inventory
Great guide! MTA isn't as bad as people make it out to be, especially with runelite plugins. I did it on my main without plugins and it's a freakin' trial but with the exception of graveyard, I'm kind of enjoying MTA on my iron.
if you really dont wanna spend a lot of time eating nanners and need to unlock bones to peaches, turn on ur faster healing prayer, do the graveyard room til ur low HP, then go do another room til ur hp is high again, once the only points you need is from the graveyard room, then you can start doing it the normal way by eating nanners.
I'd say that runelite is also a great motivator having the hiscores handy. If I ever get bored I find a boss I might enjoy for the day or so, more or less bosses with pets so I'm on a slayer grind too
@@yujiitadori5924 ironmen have to unlock this in order to even use the tab version. somebody has had to do this in order to make the tabs you are using. not entirely useless.
@@tylercollins8883 Plus B2P is needed for the Lumbridge+Draynor Hard Diary, which gives you unlimited Cabbage Ports (great for Herb Runs), and access to the Elite Diary for Staffless Fairy Rings. So not useless at all, really!
For Graveyard, you don't want to spend so much of your time eating bananas. The fastest pts/hr you would bring high healing food such as karambwans and use that to heal as needed. Once you have bones to peaches then you would supplement your food with peaches to extend the trip and reduce banking. You wouldn't want to always use bones to peaches because it doubles your cost. Instead, use it occasionally and drop extra peaches to use later
I had all the runes prepped beforehand and it literally took all day just to purchase the robe bottoms. The enchantment room and telekinetic room took no time and all but the graveyard and alchemy rooms were actual aids.
Not really unknown but because it contradicts the guide a bit I might as well say it, but ironman should only do Bones To Peaches, Infinity boots, and Master wand. Probably in that order. Bones to Peaches for the diary, Infinity boots for eternal boots, and master wand for kodai+it's the best ancient master autocaster that isn't lmao lategame. The rest of the infinity set is pure fashionscape, and while it's technically best in slot in some places, you'll never actually use mage book (iirc zulrah is its best place, and you will probably just god book there. You can also honestly only do bones to peaches. Eternal boots are a long time away and not that impactful because magic is broken, kodai is lmao late game, and you're really only using master wand over ancient staff because ancient staff has -1 prayer. I'd recommend doing all the ones I said because none of those points are wasted and there's kind of no remotely decent early game magic experience so you might as well send it once you have high alch to get to ~75 which puts you within striking distance of glass making for the crafting grind, but if you just absolutely loathe mta (it's really not that bad), just do bones to peaches and never look back. More likely than not you're never going to get your account to the point where you'd even get anything meaningful from the other stuff.
I thought the void grind was bad. What was going through the devs head when they thought, lets make a spell which is virtually useless, make it a diary requirement which is in a different area to the corresponding diary then ontop of that we will make it take a hole day to get doing a mini game which we will make as boring as possible.
This! OSRS players' grinds may look so bad it seems that they would hate themselves and making them do these grinds. But shiiiit Jagex is taking this to a whole new level. Of the whole game, this is the shittiest thing that I have every done. This doesn't even come close to One small favour, Rag and Bone man 2, Hallowed Sepulchre, Runecrafting or the mini airplane quest of GTA San Andreas. Holy shit I hated every second of this. Before this I reckoned I would some day start a serious Ironman, but hell, this minigame alone puts that chance straight down to 0%. Now way will I ever do this shit again.
They should honestly just cut the points in half for bones to peaches. I cant get my head around why it takes that long. My hole day off from work was spent doing this. I am 99 magic aswell so the magic XP I was getting wasn't even rewarding. Clearly the feedback from the comments says that no one enjoys it. I think Jagex need to change some of the diary tasks because allot of them are outdated. Like winning the fight arena or trouble brewing and so on. No one does that shit anymore and if they removed it from the diary and no one posted on social media, most people wouldn't even realise it was removed from the game.
@@TheRobson61 Tele room is chill, sure, but it's also incredibly repetitive due to the limited number of puzzles, and it takes a LOOONG time to accumulate pizazz points. Graveyard room is hella chaotic, but I got the same number of points in a fraction of the time. Personally, I like the Enchanting and Alchemy rooms the "best", but the whole arena is an absolute grind. I got Bones to Peaches early on for the diary, but I must have forgotten how much I hated this place because for some reason I've returned. I think it was to get all remaining rewards (because I'm a masochist, apparently), but after getting halfway through the points I need, I'm thinking Master Wand and Infinity Boots sound good enough for now, haha.
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This minigame makes runecrafting look fun
I'm doing this for the lumbridge hard for RC xp lol
@@Unluckyladd yeah the tears of guthix runecrafting minigame is a nice addition to osrs..
@@0sjors0 haha this is why I always go to Tears of Guthix once a week. Runecrafting is the only skill of mine under level 60.
@@The_Somewhere_Monarch my lowest skill is construction, just one level behind fletching, 60 and 61... And I still hate training fletching.
@@kirayoshikage4057 probably because training both efficiently is way too click intensive
Great Guide Man! Super helpful.
For Bones to Peaches:
Alchemist room is very click intensive, took me about 1 hour and 15 minutes. (300 points)
Graveyard room is even more click intensive, took me about 1 hour. ( 200 points)
Telekinetic room is kinda chill, but you'll get bored over time. Points are really slow. Took me about 2 hours. (200 points)
Enchantment room is very click intensive, but very fast points, took me around 45 minutes. (2000 points)
So I had Bones to Peaches unlocked after 5 hours. Now I can complete the Lumbridge hard diary xD.
how long did it take to get infinity boots?
@@beasthercules5807 should take a little less than two hours
yea... like why the f is bones to peaches so fkng expensive
pfff
One point to two law runes means points needed TIMES 2 to get number of law runes, not divided by 2. All of your formulas from the beginning are straight up the opposite of what you say later, making your initial law calculations of runes needed off by a factor of 4. That’s a huge error margin and makes the first 2 minutes of the video and the suggested calculations utterly useless.
7/10 video, 0/10 on the maths mate
Omg will this shit take that long🙂🙂 Spain but the s is silent.
Grinding for Bones to Peaches in one sitting as follows:
67 Minutes for Alchemist Points,
42 Minutes for Graveyard Points,
63 Minutes for Telekinetic Points,
17 Minutes for Enchantment Points.
I was doing all of this as efficiently and fast as I could (Tedious stuff makes my brain melt)
Total time = 3Hrs 9Mins.
Good luck homies hope my info helps.
This is such a cancerous minigame.
Props to you on the O.C formula in the video. For anyone that likes to avoid math Here's a list of the approximate runes per needed per reward item! (Credit Theoatrix) Bones to Peaches: 353 Laws, 1075 Natures, 810 Cosmic Runes ~5.2 hours
Mage's Book: 883 Laws, 2064 Natures, 2430 Cosmic Runes, ~12.6 hours
Master Wand: 848 Laws, 1988 Natures, 1944 Cosmic Runes, ~11.5 hours
Infinity Gloves: 309 Laws, 825 Natures, 608 Cosmic Runes, ~4.2 hours
Infinity Hat: 618 Laws, 1492 Natures, 1215 Cosmic Runes, ~8.1 hours
Infinity Top: 706 Laws, 1683 Natures, 1620 Cosmic Runes, ~9.6 hours
Infinity Bottoms: 795 Laws, 1874 Natures, 2025 Cosmic Runes, ~11.1 hours
Infinity Boots: 212 Laws, 459 Natures, 486 Cosmic Runes ~2.8 hours
Finished the Enchantment room in a little under 20 minutes (3 dstone cycles)
The other 3 rooms are ridiculously slow. GL to everyone doing this.
Yeah that enchantment room went by super quick, the rest were brutal.
Thats what I call a good guide! Good work brother.
Glad to see an updated MTA guide. :D well put together guide.
I've posted the required runes after speaking with some ironmen who've done mta before for all the following.
I've just finished b2p and boots myself. book\wand to be completed at a later date. :)
Required runes assuming you are using level 5 enchant. (lvl 68)
Bones to peaches: 360 laws, 1100 natures, 810 cosmics
infinity boots: 220 laws, 460 natures, 500 cosmics
master wand: 850 laws, 2000 natures, 1970 cosmics
book: 900 laws, 2100 natures, 2450 cosmics
Ty for this, I'm ultimately going for 77 mage for lunars superglass spell because I had the pleasure of 3 tick mining sandstone from 60-70 mining. Which I acquired 35k buckets of sand and with 77 magic those 35k turn to 56k and get me 85 crafting even before I start blowing them into orbs or lens. I'm 70 mage now and I might as well tackle MTA to get b2p, inf boots and master wand and alch or burst the rest of the xp needed. Your math calculations are appreciated because one can only hop so many times at mage bank before they contemplate playing Russian roulette with a fully loaded revolver. So thanks again, and gl with any and all future and present grinds!
I few things I worked out as I went that might be helpful for some people.
Start off with the graveyard room, and don't worry about eating. Go until you are low hp, then do one of the other rooms. Wait until you are healed up (use rapid healing prayer if available), then repeat. This will be roughly the same speed overall, since you don't waste clicks on eating bananas, and it will be less click intensive for your hand. Just don't forget to hand in your coins before you leave the alchemist room.
If you are semi-afking anyway, you collect an inventory of thingos in the enchanting room then use the enchant spell on one of them. It will enchant them all, but a bit slower than the more click intensive method. This will give you around 30-60 seconds to go do something else, and again will help your hand.
Two activities in OSRS have caused me hand pain - blackjacking, and mage training arena - so I'm always on the lookout to make things less click intensive without too much of an xp/hour hit.
Also another tip for the graveyard room I figured out: Bring baskets of strawberries (they heal 1-6 hp each and 5 fit inside 1 basket). I was able to stay inside to make 80 points per run.
@@MrSanctuarys good thinking!
Speaking of blackjacking, if you're looking for a less click-intensive way of training thieving, consider 1-click summer sq'irks in the Sorceress Garden minigame. Blackjacking sounds like a pain in the butt (and hand, apparently). Never really done it myself, so I don't know the XP rates you're getting, but each glass of summer sq'irk juice turned in to Osman yields 3,000 XP. With the inventory setup I take in, I usually end up with 22-24 glasses per trip depending on my remaining run energy, so 66,000-72,000 XP per trip. The most labor intensive part of it is setting up the guards, but that takes only a few minutes, and after that it's pretty chill. There are some really good videos on how to get everything set up, super straightforward.
@@HooInTheShule starting at around 85 thieving you get 250k exp/h blackjacking. Blackjacking isn't quite as bad as people make it out to be using mousekeys although still very action intensive
@@aymack4648 Unfortunately, I'm not able to use mousekeys since the laptop I play on doesn't have a numeric keypad. Which reminds me, I still need to go into the BIOS to toggle my F-key functions off media controls so that I can actually use the in-game keybinds effectively .
Took me 4.5 hours to get bones to peaches. Thats with eating, chillin, talking to roomates. Great guide man ty!
For Graveyard I brought two prayer potions and just took a sip to keep activating redemption prayer. It's less click intensive than spamming bananas
7 hrs for Bones to Peaches and Infinity boots. - Great guide, exactly the information you want from a guide.
Thank you for this! Grinding it out for those bones 2 peaches for my diary.
Good guide. The best way to do the Graveyard is to get the first 4 bones, then make fruit and deposit them. Then take 8 bones, make fruit, deposit. 8 more bones, make fruit, deposit, etc. Every 8 bones after the first 4 is 20 bananas.
Detailed, amazing, and no loud screaming. Fantastic guide!!
I swear to god the sheer pain of doing the math in my head for runes needed for bones to peaches and this man just slaps it on screen is just amazing
whoever invted this mini game is a special human
2:13 the runes needed for alchemist playground is 3.33x points needed not points needed/3.33. That is where most of the cost for mta is. Edit: also its more like 3, since you sometimes its free to alch in the room
Same with Telekinetic room. It's 2x your points is the amount of laws you need. I think the other two are correct though.
On the grave yard room, I used hp cape, a regen brace(for 4x natural hp restoration rate) and 3 phoenix necklace in inventory. That alone allowed me to get 100 points without stopping to eat anything. Just swap out the necklace when you get to 10% hp and it restores your health
thank you for this comment
In case anyone opens these replies, if you don't have hp cape and regen brace, an alternative I used was running a cheap, high healing food mule into the room to drop 7-8 food items on the ground and run back out. This does require an alt account with membership but if you have access to that, it's an incredible timesaver. You just pick that up for healing and dont waste time clicking 6 bananas every invent, i'd say it almost doubles your speed on this room. Need cheap, high healing food? There's potato & cheese at warriors guild for 10 coin a bob, 16 hp. There's probably better alternatives out there but I wouldn't know I mainly play on a GIM.
and if you don't have hp cape, use Rapid Heal prayer, along with some prayer bonuses in your spare slots
Thanks for the guide :)
Just wanted to correct the runes needed for Alchemy: Natures = Points needed / 0.3
So for the master wand you'll need 800nats = 240 points / 0.3
Great content by the way, you did a great job on room mechanics, rune mechanics/formulas, and video production was pretty good too!
Thanks for an up-to-date guide. The tips about Runelite were very useful.
B2P bound.... Thank you for the guide!
Tip for the graveyard room I figured out: Bring baskets of strawberries (they heal 1-6 hp each and 5 fit inside 1 basket). I was able to stay inside to make 80 points per run.
i used redemption but yeah this helps a lot
Even better is redemption. Each prayer pot = 80 hp
regen bracelet and hp cape while in graveyard room, once low hp switch to another room until full hp again
Wow, amazing easy guide. I have never done this before and ALWAYS avoided it because there were no efficient guides out there for dummies like me. This is PERFECT!!!
Great guide, very clear and straightforward, also really like the time stamps.
That was one of the clearest guides i have every seen, thank you sir.
Thanks for this awesome guide! Released today instead of 2years ago.
i had no idea this channel was so small, you make good content man keep it up, your night at the theater guide helped me a friend start running ToB
Thanks dude, this saved me so much hassle
Great guide! Thank you very much. Im glad I found this guide before doing it, otherwise I would have done graveyard for all my pieces at once, rather than getting B2P first. (@ 8:00) Thank you for the advice!
Amazing intercut guide, its been years since I've even been here! thanks mate
Not sure if anyone has caught this but the formula for runes needed in the Alchemist Playground is reversed, it should be points multiplied by 3.33, not divided by. Each cast at full efficiency nets 30 coins, so one point every 4th cast. Otherwise a great guide.
You know what, I normally don’t subscribe. But something about you having less that 4% of viewers subscribed made me feel some type of way. Great guide. Keep up the good vids!
graveyard : bring prayer pots for redemption when hitting below 10% + rapid heal
telekenetic : bring stamina pots / weight reduce
enchantment : done do bonus, just spam enchant, should be done less than 30mins.
alchemist room: HELL
I have a good tip for the graveyard room. Bring prayer pots! Use redemption prayer. Redemption heals you for 1/4 of your hitpoints level. So at level 80 prayer, redemption will heal you for 20 hp. Essentially 1 prayer pot would heal you 80 hp at that level.
I did this pre-b2p especially cause bananas only heal 2 and you eat them damn near as fast as you take damage
I just brought wines and when I ran low on health I ran to the bank for more wines. Eating bananas is too many clicks.
Thanks for the guide! Bones to peaches is my last to do for hard diary!
Great guide. When I'm on mobile, I usually do the enchantment and telekinetic room since there less intensive and U don't need runelite for these rooms. When I'm on runelite, I focused on the alchemist and graveyard room just to make it easier.
Haven't watched such a good Osrs guide since Bonbloc - Well done!
Not sure about the formula for the other areas, but for alchemists playground it should be Points Needed x 3.33 (1 point) = # of Nats.
Yeah my calculated total cost wasless than half the actual cost cause of that
My account stats and time:
74 Agility
80 Hitpoints
76 Mage
My time:
1h 20min = Alch Room (high concentration my wrist hurt like a mofo)
1h = Graveyard Room (used 15 strawberry’s bucket and Redemption Prayer with W330 and house Tablets in between) [Always leave the room at 6hp and eat upstairs]
2h 30min = Telekinetic Room (was fairly afk watched streams etc)
16min = Enchantment Room (just did lvl 5 enchant and always used only one non specific Rock)
Completion time: 5hours 1 minute
Conclusion: Is it worth for diary? Fuck no they should lower that shit. But your belladonna seed will be finished by the end of your training
Thanks for the guide my guy!
great guide man thankyou
4 hours for bones to peaches unlock (99mage)
u were 99 mage when u do this?
@@simonryzler2365 yessir
@@Rsbobbeh do you remember how many runes you needed? i cant math
4 hours? i am halfway through first room out of 4 and ive been here for 1 hour and ive been efficient.
great video bro keep it up !!!
1:40 best random rhyme ive heard in a while, lol.
Couple of things to note: The Alchemist's Playground does *not* preserve extra coins dropped in the Chute. Example, if you drop 105 gp, you will receive 1 point. If you drop 195 gp, you will receive 1 point, and you can't go back and drop another 5 gp to get an additional point.
Conversely, the Creature Graveyard *does* preserve extra points. So if you drop 20 fruit, you get 1 point for the 16 you dropped, plus the extra 4 carry over to your next drop. Therefore, if you always drop 20 fruit, every 4th drop you'll get 2 points instead of 1. This can make it well worthwhile to bring alternate food or healing methods (Phoenix Necklace, Regen Bracelet, Redemption+Rapid Heal+PPots, etc), so that 100% of your fruit can go down the chute.
Additional note, for Graveyard, 4x1-point bones + 4x4-point bones = 20 fruit, and 4x2-points + 4x3-points. It's worth it during setting up the room to pick up and drop bones until you're in that pattern, because the bone piles will always give you 4 of each bone, in order, before cycling back to 1.
Damn I wish I had this guide when I did it. Like you, I noticed the guides were pretty vague and dated so I just went and tortured myself there until I got the hang of it
hey man, much love, really helped me to get master wand and bones to peaches
One of the best guides I’ve seen. Nice!
2:07 that is exactly what I needed. last thing I want is to constantly over/underestimate the rune cost for these rewards.
I just wanted to do all the hard diaries and now I'm going to have to grind this game for 4-5 hours? Sheeeeessh
Awesome!
BTW to save peoeple time, the nature runes needed for alchemist playground is (points needed) / 0.3 This assumes no mistakes so get a few more in case you alch an item that is not worth 30 coins.
Great guide, thank you for it! But currently on my last room Telekinetic Theatre and this is so fun it want to kms... 😴😴😴
thanks, you got me my lumbridge hard diary
great guide
Great guide!
Graveyard, bring your own food preferly brews .. make it so much bearable and faster since u dont have to stand around and eat 4 bannans every single inventory
Thanks for the Guide!
Nice guide. Helped to make my Bones to Peaches grind a lil faster..
i was magic level 74 when i started, i beleve bones to peaches took me just over 6 hours
@TrissR just for bones to peaches?
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Great guide! MTA isn't as bad as people make it out to be, especially with runelite plugins. I did it on my main without plugins and it's a freakin' trial but with the exception of graveyard, I'm kind of enjoying MTA on my iron.
if you really dont wanna spend a lot of time eating nanners and need to unlock bones to peaches, turn on ur faster healing prayer, do the graveyard room til ur low HP, then go do another room til ur hp is high again, once the only points you need is from the graveyard room, then you can start doing it the normal way by eating nanners.
I'd say that runelite is also a great motivator having the hiscores handy. If I ever get bored I find a boss I might enjoy for the day or so, more or less bosses with pets so I'm on a slayer grind too
Great video! Bones to Peaches took 4hours for me. Terrible! :D
i used redemption for the graveyard room, game changer.
Super helpful guide, thank you for this!
All I wanted was to complete the hard diary. I completely forgot about this prerequisite :(. Ill have to save this video for another time.
This guide is so well done! Thank you!
All this for a useless spell zzz thanks so much for the guide man glad I put it off and found this.. also took me about 4 hrs to do
spell is not uselus :(
@@remcovanlint7046 Then why do people at gwd bring the tab version? LOL
@@yujiitadori5924 ironmen have to unlock this in order to even use the tab version. somebody has had to do this in order to make the tabs you are using. not entirely useless.
@@tylercollins8883 Plus B2P is needed for the Lumbridge+Draynor Hard Diary, which gives you unlimited Cabbage Ports (great for Herb Runs), and access to the Elite Diary for Staffless Fairy Rings. So not useless at all, really!
nice guide man :D
For Graveyard, you don't want to spend so much of your time eating bananas. The fastest pts/hr you would bring high healing food such as karambwans and use that to heal as needed. Once you have bones to peaches then you would supplement your food with peaches to extend the trip and reduce banking. You wouldn't want to always use bones to peaches because it doubles your cost. Instead, use it occasionally and drop extra peaches to use later
Professional content. I feel like I just unlocked B2P... except, I didn't. Anyway I better get to the Mage Arena now :( great work
subbed thanks for time and effort you put in this
Thanks for putting this guide together
Super helpful thanks homie!!
Extremely helpful guide, thank you!
Great guide! Thanks for your hard work!
you my man, deserved our subscribe and like
The thing I missed is you actually doing the rooms for like 30 seconds. That gets a feel of the timings etc. Other than that good guide.
I would have liked to see this as well, him actually doing the room while he's saying what to do pretty much and walk along what you're actually doing
I had all the runes prepped beforehand and it literally took all day just to purchase the robe bottoms.
The enchantment room and telekinetic room took no time and all but the graveyard and alchemy rooms were actual aids.
Worth a sub,going to get my full mage set lol
Also this video was made to get people to use runelite.Sneaky ;) good vid g
nice vid keep it up as always
Love it!!! Great guide man. I am kind of stuck where I want to go in the game.
thanks man, this was super helpful.
Not really unknown but because it contradicts the guide a bit I might as well say it, but ironman should only do Bones To Peaches, Infinity boots, and Master wand. Probably in that order. Bones to Peaches for the diary, Infinity boots for eternal boots, and master wand for kodai+it's the best ancient master autocaster that isn't lmao lategame. The rest of the infinity set is pure fashionscape, and while it's technically best in slot in some places, you'll never actually use mage book (iirc zulrah is its best place, and you will probably just god book there.
You can also honestly only do bones to peaches. Eternal boots are a long time away and not that impactful because magic is broken, kodai is lmao late game, and you're really only using master wand over ancient staff because ancient staff has -1 prayer. I'd recommend doing all the ones I said because none of those points are wasted and there's kind of no remotely decent early game magic experience so you might as well send it once you have high alch to get to ~75 which puts you within striking distance of glass making for the crafting grind, but if you just absolutely loathe mta (it's really not that bad), just do bones to peaches and never look back. More likely than not you're never going to get your account to the point where you'd even get anything meaningful from the other stuff.
Amazing guide
Thanks for the guide man!
Finally
Thank you so much.
Best mage arena guide by far
best guide hands down
I thought the void grind was bad. What was going through the devs head when they thought, lets make a spell which is virtually useless, make it a diary requirement which is in a different area to the corresponding diary then ontop of that we will make it take a hole day to get doing a mini game which we will make as boring as possible.
This!
OSRS players' grinds may look so bad it seems that they would hate themselves and making them do these grinds. But shiiiit Jagex is taking this to a whole new level. Of the whole game, this is the shittiest thing that I have every done. This doesn't even come close to One small favour, Rag and Bone man 2, Hallowed Sepulchre, Runecrafting or the mini airplane quest of GTA San Andreas.
Holy shit I hated every second of this.
Before this I reckoned I would some day start a serious Ironman, but hell, this minigame alone puts that chance straight down to 0%. Now way will I ever do this shit again.
They should honestly just cut the points in half for bones to peaches. I cant get my head around why it takes that long. My hole day off from work was spent doing this. I am 99 magic aswell so the magic XP I was getting wasn't even rewarding. Clearly the feedback from the comments says that no one enjoys it. I think Jagex need to change some of the diary tasks because allot of them are outdated. Like winning the fight arena or trouble brewing and so on. No one does that shit anymore and if they removed it from the diary and no one posted on social media, most people wouldn't even realise it was removed from the game.
Awesome guide!!!!!!!!
I think this minigame makes me like agility
Very nice guide. For the graveyard/creature room, HP cape and regen bracelet are useful
Thanks for the guide!
I got you that sub as well. Solid content you making here
Tele room is your favourite? Are you a sociopath lol that room drive me mad
Seriously?! At least the tele room is chill and you're not taking damage every second like the graveyard room. Did you use RuneLite?
@@TheRobson61 Tele room is chill, sure, but it's also incredibly repetitive due to the limited number of puzzles, and it takes a LOOONG time to accumulate pizazz points. Graveyard room is hella chaotic, but I got the same number of points in a fraction of the time. Personally, I like the Enchanting and Alchemy rooms the "best", but the whole arena is an absolute grind. I got Bones to Peaches early on for the diary, but I must have forgotten how much I hated this place because for some reason I've returned. I think it was to get all remaining rewards (because I'm a masochist, apparently), but after getting halfway through the points I need, I'm thinking Master Wand and Infinity Boots sound good enough for now, haha.