The Klon & The KTR
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- Today we'll have some fun comparing the Klon and the KTR. Not really a pedal demo per se, just a hang messing with the pedals and answering questions. Keith William's and I made a video over at Five Watt World on the Klon. Check it out here. • The Klon: A Short Hist...
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The Klon buffer affecting the sound of the KTR...
Some terrific tones there Jeff couldn’t make the live event but watched this- to be honest I’d be happy with any of those tones could hear Clapton & Hendrix & other icons - great stuff
Hey Jeff, i must say you have one of the best guitar tones on CZcams, your Marshall is a beast. Great video mate.
Thank you!!
Love that intro mate..! Soooo much to admire/copy/borrow and watch again.!!!
Thank you!!!
Thanks Jeff! I own a Way Huge Conspiracy Theory(Klone) and how you used the Klon(settings) pointed me in some directions I hadn't thought of! Excellent!
Very cool!
No problem Jeff ,many thanks for the reply
Hi Jeff, guess what: I sold my Fender Showman Amp bought in 1965... had an old VOXAC30 in 1969...you are not alone ... however still have my 1961 Gibson Les Paul (=SG1).... and you got your old stuff, this is how life goes...best wishes, Uwe (guitar player, South Germany).
Hey Jeff that intro was so good. Im going to buy your truefire licks.
Thank you! I discuss that specific track on my Solo Explorer course. 🙌
Great tone and playing Jeff!.
Thank you Vic!
Great video and tones Jeff. I have a Ryra Klone and its such a fantastic pedal. I just tried using it in a few different ways you just demonstrated and it shines. Would love to try a real one. Wouldn't we all though right 😄
Hey Jeff, the Manticore V1 is worth a go, I sold my Klon after getting it...and then purchased a second Manticore.
You're making some good content, all the best.
I have one! Lol. Great pedal but it has no buffer which I like quite a bit. Thanks for being here and for the compliment!
LP tuning.. why I love my PRS guitars. Between you and Keith I'm convinced I need a Klon tone on my board.
Funny like I said, that was a total anomaly for this one. But yeah, the prs is easier. Lol
One of your best!
Viewing - my jam buddy has a KTR Klon, nice enough to lend it for a test drive along with an Analogman modified TS9. Never paid attention to the Klon debate. Watched this video for guidance on how to adjust settings. The KTR is great pedal!
That Les Paul sounds great - seems brighter than most LPs I have heard
He’s influenced by Bloomfield,
Listen to Texas.
Hi, I got the Klon KTR, play in front the Seymour Duncan Vise Grip Compressor into my BluGuitar Amp1 - I get a super "pulling" sound like with a very old Marshall Amp, i.e. my guitar sound "stands" for minutes if I want. This is what I like, an indefinitely sustained sound! Only very few amps can do that, the Amp1 alone also not, however with these two pedals it works!
I recently bought a Ceriatone Centura (gold with horsie) and it's really a great Klone. They use the same case and it looks like a dead ringer, but it's really does the Klon thing well for around $250 new. Worth checking out if you're looking for something really close.
Really great video, as always (as was Keith’s Klon video with your inserts). Interesting chat on the two pedals.
As an aside, would you mind sharing your Ox settings?
Almost got one from vintage and reare in Denmark Street in London who were the main dealer in the UK but could not get new one's when production stopped. They recommend a black box cobalt pedal which is still my on all time pedal
As prodigious as he is nice, which is to say *very*. Go Jeff!!!
To me the Klon cleans up better. The red one is a bit fuzz on treble. Other than that it’s identical. Good work man!
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Thanks Jeff! I bought mine new in 97. Sits in the box cause I’m afraid to take it out! Lol- what delay and reverb are you using? Sounds awesome!
Simply the best
Thanks!
Nice playing and nice tone. I like the hat! You need to add a dark jacket, some really faded jeans, a big old belt buckle, some old shoes and a colorful scarf. Maybe, some dark sunglasses. Yep that's you. And then wale.
Lol!!! I do own all of those!
I do enjoy watching and listening to you mess around. Now my wife would say "When are you going to play something". But it's a good lesson. One has to take the time to experiment to see what you like.
great video jeff....awsome marshall tone....were you miking the cab in another room and if so what were you using....thanks
The Klon KTR is exactly the same circuit etc. as the awfully expensive original Klon Centaur. Off course it is the "Magic" in old pedals etc. which can only be explained by "ghots"....
The Centaur has a little more high mids to my ear, KTR maybe more low mids? They both sound great but I do prefer the Centaur!
Would the Horsie's buffer going in to the KTR alter the sound at all?
I also assume you ran the reverb post, maybe a plate reverb ?....sounds great...just curious of your signal chain....thanks
The Marshall is plugged into the UA OX and I’m using that plate verb in the ox post amp.
tasty intro!
thank you!
I’ve never heard the Centaur used in a way that made me say I must have.
Sure.
Hi Jeff Great vid as usual ,my favourite so far is the Jimmy Page minor blues,I have tried to access buying your course from your web site but it takes me to true fire and does not use discount code
Humm. Let me get back to you! Thanks!
Great sound
but its your finger and you re feeling that sound very good. Oh and what do you think about twimble pedable mad professor?
Thanks. I had a twimble and liked it, I prefer the Supreme pedal to that though.
@@JeffMcErlain Oh tks for your answer. For a smooth sound, overdrive sounds , a little like dumble overdrive ,not too "bright" supreme or twimble for you? ( i have à handicap ears, cause accident bands, who played too loud. Often my maxon od808, the high hurt my ears, too harsh like bridge pick up les paul tone 10, i love clear overdrive and woody sound, no agressive ) . I play with deluxe reverb 68 RI ans 1976 les paul. I don t find a nice overdrive who don t hurt my ears. Sorry for the question.
Sounds terrific but I like the hat even more… What brand?
Lol! Bailey!
Who can afford an old Klon Centaur, which is in my mind "a tick" better, however you may be able to tweak the new one? Of course, if I win in a lottery I buy the original one. Not sure, why there is a difference....
Definitly the horse
You played the Horsie a LOT LONGER. And I think they could be dialed together with a slight (1 or 2) on the tone knobs. I had a Horsie and sold it. But I bought it for big money and got even more for it. I wasn't sold at that cost.
I agree completely, the KTR didn't very much representation!
Incredible, its the same builder, the same circuit, same parts, why on earth the old Klon is better? OMG, I need to get the golden one....
it's all in your head. could be a slight different in settings, those things have tolerances so even if the knobs look the same it does not mean they are filtering the same way. listen to it again WITH CLOSED EYES, and you'll see that you can't tell the difference.
The KRT is Surface mounted circuits.
Ok, the original klon sounds better to my ears, but the difference is not so great, that you pay so much money on it ... what do you think?
Sorry for coming late to the party. To my ears, the centaur has an “openness” that the KTR does not have. It’s much less apparent in your video because you take the time to really match them as best as you can. Maybe your set happens to be better matched than others? But with that being said, it was shown in a different video that the JHS Klone was actually better matched to the centaur than the KTR. It could be how the player set the pedals. But this is not the first time that the KTR showed a very slight difference in the “openness” of the tone.
Thoughts?
They are the same exact circuit
I like my KTR
Me too!
@@JeffMcErlain waited 3 months on the list. Got it back in May. Your Les Paul sounds awesome sir.
@@JasonChannell Thank you! Enjoy that pedal!
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I would like to know also!
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They sell the original golden Klon Centaur for over 6 k Euro... OMG
I KNOW EDDIE
The Red one is narrower and less dynamic. The Gold one is looser and better low mids, better sounding.
Agreed
Jeff, a clean amp would have actually been realistic for a difference comparison video..
Your amp is already punching a hole in the Ionosphere, leaving no room for the drive section of the pedals to shine on their own.
Other than that, your tone is envious in my thinking.
I see your point but and appreciate the input! I like most people I know don’t like the drive of a Klon on its own, and not what the pedal was intended for when Bill made it. He intended it for an already driven amp. The drive on its own is very nasal which works great into some drive. I appreciate you being here!!
@@JeffMcErlainThis might explain why I like a Klon type pedal stacked into a low gain overdrive. I have the RYRA and it sounds particularly good stacked into a Nobels, a Lightspeed, and a Jan Ray.
Klon won
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they are exactly the same circuit FFS
Yes, as I stated. I own both. Thanks for watching!
@@JeffMcErlain I meant if they are the same circuit, why saying they sound different? Only accountable thing would be component tolerances…
Like but i can't tell wtf between the pedals what with all the talking, so fail as a demo, well meant though, but fail as a demo. 99% of demos fail as the presenter thinks we want to listen to them talk, they dont get to the point, a 5 minute presentation somehow gets to be a slog just to get to the point, Jeff is an amazing player but man, just get to it. : )
Thanks for the comment, as a sole pedal demo I would agree that there is too much talking. This is one of my weekly live feeds where I teach, talk gear, etc. You can see the live feed comments people come for the hang and community. This video isn’t meant to be a pedal demo! Lol. When I watch those I want them to get to it too. I did a video with @fivewattworld on the history of the Klon And received a number of requests comparing the two pedals. So that what this was. A community gtr nerd hang about a video answering questions and messing with the pedals. If I were to do a proper pedal demo of these two, I’d get right to it. Thanks for checking it out and the constructive feedback. I hope you join the hang. Best, Jeff
probably the ugliest looking pedals out there...
Which one? Lol!