DAF ADBLUE QUALITY...ENGINE POWER REDUCTION? what can it be?
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2023
- on my travels this week I've a DAF LF euro 6 With Adblue quality issue and Daf lf power reduced issues. With the help of JALTEST From ECLIPSE we can get to the bottom of this hopefully!
with various fault codes to do with nox conversion efficiency to low and data validation but too high I'm betting on a NOx sensor issue but I'm not willing to blow hard-earned money on one just yet so I'm going to go through a testing plan to ensure the system is correctly operating first and get to the bottom of this Nox conversion efficiency issue.
#daf #lf #adblue #nox #powerreduction
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Tip of day to clean crystallised ad blue... hot water.
Thanks for the comment and for dropping by 👌😎
Oh yes tell me about it! Why I didn't go and find some I will never know 😂😂😂
Nice work my friend .
Good luck !
Thanks for dropping by and for the kind words! 😎👌
We really struggle with emissions issues, mainly Daf's and Iveco's. Anyone in the southeast near Dover that is this clued up/knowledgeable, we'd have pretty regular work for you. We've even sent trucks to the main dealer, only to be told nothing is wrong. Hopefully by watching these videos we'll learn how things work.
Great video and funny in the end😂
Thank you.
No problem buddy 😎👍
Usually send to main dealers after half a day of fanning about.
On the road again!!!!!
My life is nothing but a long and open road now stu 😂😂😂🙈
top job buddy love it
Cheers Mick! How did you get on with that XF in the end?
nightmare mate went in t daf all week unable to find fault
@@TRUCKTECHUK
they think tsthe engine harness @@TRUCKTECHUK
@mickbusby782 Interesting buddy! Let me know how they get on in the end 👌👀
After carrying out quality test, EAS visual inspection and 100% checking for any universal component cheap NOX I disconnect adblue injector and run it out rather loaded or handbrake pulling it back on a long hill and see what there reading, normally find before CAT reading to low.
Hey George 👋. That sounds like a good idea, I think I'd of gone further with a road test if I didn't find the scr sensor hanging out and the dpf gasket blown. I'm still waiting for the call to see if faulted again 😪
Yeah your not wrong, it’s a code I see motors have thousands and thousands spent on it because no one wants to spend the time on it to get to the route cause. Seen people just throwing both nox sensors on it before even checking adblue quality, madness, why you will so well mate, rate to find someone who understands the importance of accurate diagnosis 🤙Similar to EMAS faults😂
I'd much rather explain to the customer we need to test everything first before throwing money at it even if it needs to go back out. I wish I could justify a £1000 of nox sensors without any testing 😂.
I just bought a 600-bar digital LCD pressure sensor for screwing in to do EMAS faults.....if only I had some customers with emas faults 😂😂😂😂🙈
So the LF doesn't have a urea quality sensor in the tank like the 11 and 13 litre engines do??
Had lf55 similar issue pal . Upstream nox sensor was causing the fault .
Hi Ray thanks for the comment and for watching the video. I've my eye on them bloody sensors. Hopefully, I can test them if the fault returns 🤔
@@TRUCKTECHUK no problem . I love your content and i wish best of luck going forward with your new endevour 👌
I'm so happy you enjoy the videos Ray! Fingers crossed I can find a balance with my work/video mayhem lifestyle that I've got going on currently 😂🙈
I too find front nox usually the problem because the ecu uses this to test scr efficencey ie cat or def fluid quantity or quality it always pop up those codes, i give it a regen so flow and temp is correct and look for an average of about 300 ppm oxygen pre cat with at least an 85 per cent reduction, if 300 ppm is nowhere near with no air leaks ect i take it as pre nox is reading incorrect.
Hey, thanks for the comment 👌😎. Thanks for your input on an alternative testing method.
It's been a week and still no issue but if it happens again I will monitor via regeneration for the correct PPM and see where we go 👌😎
I give it a regen then look at live data on Jaltest while on test drive for the 300ppm of oxygen on the front nox sensor ,bit difficult to see, bit unsettle but can see it on nice piece of road, and that reduces to below 45ppm if all is working fine, have had it where it shows more oxygen on rear than front ,defo sensor fault.
Thank you for your input on this 😎. Hopefully it will benefit people looking for answers to this specific fault 👌
In terms of the SCR catalyst… there’s a company in Norwich who replace the catalyst substrate inside the SCR unit for a fraction of the cost of a new unit, no need to buy the full system either. Had great success with these reconditioned units in the past!
Thanks for the comment. The truck is still undergoing testing to see if we can get it to fault but I think I will have a look for this company for future reference 😉 thank you 👌😎
@@TRUCKTECHUK no problem! they're called DPF Recovery, they're super helpful. Love the videos by the way!
@leftclicky Thank you for that (hits Google) 👀😅
I'm glad you're enjoying the videos 😎
Whilst there is Ad-Blue/DEF fitted to diesel engines Techs (like yourself) will never be out of work. 😂.
All to keep emissions down how on earth did we manage when we had a workshop full of white smoke on a cold morning on start up?
Maybe I’m looking with rose tinted glasses.
Ha ha ha cheers Simon lol 😆 Funny enough Daf just did away with EGR on LF and went balls deep with AdBlue 🙈🙈🙈🙈. I DONT KNOW WHAT WAS WORSE for euro 6 lmao
I remember rebuilding an inline pump on a gardener and trying to alter the helix on the timing plunger for the spill port........talk about white smoke LMAO 🤣
Nice video, I'm Ukrainian truck driver
Thanks and welcome 👌😎
Hello buddy, 😊😊.. Still following you..
Hey Teddy 👋😎 Thanks for the support 😀. How are you finding the videos?
@@TRUCKTECHUK very instructive and very well explain 😀.. Really need some guys like you in my country 😁😁😁👍😇👍👍
Have you ever had a blocked SCR causing a diesel oxidation catalyst fault to appear.
Hey Denis, I couldn't say I've ever had a blocked SCR cat but from experience, if you have gone through the motions of checking NOX levels and the Adblue system quality and quantity it will be the SCR CAT.
Hello, I have a problem with my Daf 105. The AdBlue temperature in the tank was found to be 20.1 degrees. I replaced the Adblue tank with the sensor but it didn't change anything. when I release the cube with it, the temperature still remains the same. you know how to help me, where to look for the problem, because I'm already throwing up my hands. Thank you for your help
You’ve never lived until you’ve had adblue lnjector bolts snap in the exhaust at the side of the road when it’s pissing down in the middle of the night
Ha ha ha 😂 I've had a few go on me in the workshop that has had to be warmed up to get them out.....doesn't prepare you for volvo adblue injector bolts though does it 😂😂😂🫣
@@TRUCKTECHUK 90% of the breakdowns you get in Volvo action service is blocked injectors and nox sensors. There’s no trick to getting them out either. Just pain and heartache
@@alancharlton109 they should make them all quick release ha ha ha....speaking of nox sensors!!!! Bloody Mercedes!!!! How tight do they need to do them from the factory and then they pull the threads on the way out 🫣
@@TRUCKTECHUK that’s after taking a million covers off just to get to them haha. We keep new boss’ in stock because a lot of times you end up pulling the threads getting them out
witam mam problem z dafem 105. pokazuje mi temperature adblue w zbiorniku 20.1 stopni. wymienialem smok adblue w ktorym jest czujnik ale to nic nie zmienilo. kiedy wypne z niego kostke temperatura ciagle zostaje taka sama. wiesz moze jak mi pomoc gdzie szukac problemu bo juz rozkladam rece. dziekuje za pomoc
Hello mate. I replace a nox sensor before the cat on mx13 euro6. Only erased the dtcs but after 10hours of driving I have the error and engine light again. I have problem with the values mesuared by the sensor.
The sensor need to be calibrated or learning with davie? I didn't see learning procedure on daf dealernet manuals.
I installed a used nox sensor.
Hi so if I was replacing the sensor I'd be looking at using a new genuine sensor first. What is the fault code and what other faults do you have with it? You don't need to do any learning process or resets with daf thank God
@@TRUCKTECHUK p1711 and p1710 (nox pre cat sensor , data valid but high and low values)and after few hours p1496(active) egr shut-off.
@codexTu so do a nox sensor evaluation test through your diagnostic tool to ensure this sensor is good. Then I'd start thinking about VTG turbocharger actuator performance,
Any issues with the fuel in the truck?
Leakage in inlet air system?
Clogged EGR pressure difference sensor venturi?
Few things to check but the only thing I can think of that could be messing with the NOX could be the turbo
@@TRUCKTECHUK i will install a oem new sensor and see what happen. Thanks mate
This truck have 1.200.000km is a lot for an DAF😄
@codexTu run the nox sensor test on the sensor through diagnostics. It might save you some money and check the turbo. Seems odd how you have high and low nox issues.....let me know how you get on also!