Ruger Wrangler Vs Ruger Single Six
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- čas přidán 2. 09. 2022
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Get ready for a long one, I get into some detail comparing the Ruger Wrangler and the Ruger Single Six! These single action six shooters in 22lr are a lot of fun to shoot! Check out how they match up!
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I rented a single six from my local gun range, had to shoot their ammo with their gun. I own a wrangler, shot their ammo to keep it fair, and did my own comparison. Single six is a great firearm, however, a wrangler isn't to be overlooked imo.
Having to use the range's ammo on their rentals is a common thing, and for good reason; while it doesn't matter so much with rimfire, the range doesn't want people using handloads with their rentals, for reasons that should be obvious.
A range I frequent had an M1A ruined when someone snuck in some handloads, and one blew up.
the Wrangler has a steal barrel ! I have 2 of the black ones and a 1976 super single 6 made in the 200th year of American Liberty. Love all 3 of them. You need more practice with them and less wind. On a windy day you can shoot around corners with a 22. LOL Lay the Wrangler flat in your left hand and rotate the cylinder with your thumb while you load it with your right. Take empties out the same way-much faster.
Original single six every day all day. Fantastic single action revolver, almost over done for a 22. Definitely something you hang on to and pass down to your children and grandchildren. It’s an excellent woods gun/ trapping gun. Great critter Gitter gun.
The new super wrangler is awesome for what it costs.......
@AverageGIJoeOutdoors I have one (silver), and it's either a Wrangler on steroids, or a 5 1/2" Junior Single Six Convertible. Haven't decided which one yet.
But very fun to shoot.
Thanks for the vid and I see where you're going, but a "keyhole" is a bullet out of balance that enters the target sideways.
Usually after it deflects off a small branch or similar.
GREAT video! I really aappreciate how you took the time to do diff ammo and at diff ranges.
My older brother has a mid '60's single Six with both cylinders (.22lr and .22 magnum). He got it as a gift from dad as a high school graduation gift (seven years later I got a Bulova watch for my grad gift - go figure).
So (still jealous) now I'm in my very early '70's and went to one of the big store gunshops (starts with a C) and checked out their "Library" of used guns. They had a few of the single six's but none of the convertible ones had both cylinders. I looked at the Wranglers and thought immediately that they looked cheaply made, and yes they had a low affordable price, but not for me. The next day I went to one of my local gunstores and found a pristine single six (New Model) with both cylinders, I bought it on the spot for $600.
I think this one has the best of both worlds. Not a three screw model, but still the fit and finish of the one my brother has.
I'll be picking it up this next Tuesday, and can't wait to try it out.
Let us know how you like it!
You've got bad info on what these guns are made of.
The Single Six does have a steel frame, cylinder, barrel and lockwork. The ejector rod housing is aluminum. The grip frame is aluminum.
On the wrangler, the cylinder, barrel and lockwork is steel, while the cylinder frame is an aluminum alloy, not Zamak, while thr grip frame IS Zamak.
Fair enough
The blued model single six has a aluminum grip frame. The new model single six is what I learned how to shoot a handgun and I have owned a three screw single six with adjustable sights I'm 65 years old and I have had some fun with those single action revolvers from Ruger the 44 magnum as well they just fit my hand better. 30:16
The Ruger Wrangler has a steel hammer forged barrel also! It's not pot metal. The wrangler as I own the S6 also...I can't believe how solid the RW is . Now the new Super Wrangler adjustable sights & also a 22 .mag cylinder also. Appreciate your efforts and quality content thanks for all you do Cheers friend! ✌🏼💫
I've been searching high and low for a super wrangler, they look like they are real winners
@@rifleman17hmrshooter That was to long with my Canadian problems lol...my apologies Cheers! Please take a look at Eagle Grips USA ask for Rag Tell him Sean from Sask Canada sent you. Enjoy your day. ✌🏼💫
The old model Single Six hasn't been in production for 50 years. You never carry 6 rounds in the cylinder of an old model. Load one, skip one, then load the remaining four. Bring the hammer to full cock and lower it on the empty chamber. A better comparison would be a new model Single Six and the Wrangler. The Wrangler is far from junk. It is built using less expensive manufacturing processes and materials. Ruger needed a product to compete at the lower price point. And the Wrangler fills the gap nicely!
That's a fair point, the new model single six is a lot closer to the Wrangler mechanically. Not to say the Wrangler is crap, it's just a proof point that cheaper manufacturing really does take away quality. Now it is still a shooter for sure, but I'll take the single six over the Wrangler. I've found when it comes to a lot of guns, sometimes older is much better than newer.
@@rifleman17hmrshooter the barrel bore diameter is not the proper size to shoot .22 MAGNUM ammunition accurately in the Ruger Single 6 rimfire revolver for use with .22 MAGNUM conversion cylinder, because the bore diameter is .219" inches. To shoot .22 MAGNUM rimfire ammunition accurately the bore diameter must be .223" inches !
@@unitedstatesirie7431 I think if you check that with Ruger you'll find the bore is .224; their reasoning is that it's safer to shoot a bullet through a larger bore than a too small one.
In my experience, LR and Magnum both shoot pretty accurately out of the same Single Six barrel.
Even better would be comparing to a Super Wrangler which has the 2 cylinders and adjustable sights.
For future videos,
1. I would suggest going to the bench FIRST and try out several types of ammo. Then shoot with what the gun likes.
2. Keep your targets separate for comparison later. Paper plate with orange dot is cheap and functional at the range you are shooting. (OR take parts of your video and put them at the end so we can quickly compare)
3. You may want to take a Bullseye stance when shooting one handed for group.
And overall, I like your video, video style.
Great feedback!! Thanks for watching and I'll definitely keep the suggestion in mind!
You use the term keyhole that's a lake here in wyoming
I have two single sixes, one with a 9" barrel, one with a 6" barrel. Both have red dot sights.
Using the same rest in the above video at 25m the 6" gun will shoot groups of 65mm, the 9" gun slightly better, around 50mm.
Both guns prefer good quality SK, Norma or other subsonic ammo.
Both guns are made to high quality standards, balance well in the hand and are very enjoyable to shoot.
I'm a very big fan of the single six!
Of course I love the Single Six & Single Ten. But I can't justify spending the current store price of either. After ALL I really like 22's but don't need another one... Of course I want more of them. The wrangler is the perfect 22 plinker for really short money. As of yesterday RUGER announced the NEW Super Wrangler with (2) cylinders 22LR/22WMR combo, a 5.5" barrel and adjustable sights for $329 list. which is about 1/3rd of the price of what a Single Ten is going for.
And the Super Wrangler has a steel cylinder frame to handle the .22 WMR.
I like the single sx
Nice old Single Six you have, and good comparison, but could do with some corrections: contrary to what you said, it has never been considered safe to load six rounds in an old model Single Six; You point to the barrel of the Wrangler and call it "Pot metal" - it's made of steel. And, to be slightly pedantic, "Keyholing" is not when the a bullet hits the same hole in a target, it's when an unstabilized bullet hits the target sideways.
All correct, except key holing commonly goes both ways
@rifleman17hmrshooter Not really. Keyholing is caused by the bullet tumbling. I can't find any reference calling two bullets overlapping as keyholing.
@@bigbill2444 I dunno then, maybe it's a regional thing. I've always known it both ways
@@rifleman17hmrshooter In competition, two bullets in almost the same hole is called a double.
As for regional differences, that's entirely possible. A paper bag used in a grocery store, for example, is called different things in different places; when I lived in Florida, it was a sack.
@@bigbill2444 yeah I'd chalk it up to that. A buggy is a cart just like a pop is a soda
I like Remington thunderbolt ammo. And all my semi automatics I’ve never had any trouble with the Remington thunderbolt ammo. My semi autos some of them don’t like federal ammo blow black pressure from the powder. Aguila is probably my favorite no problems with any of my 22 semi autos.
try Federal Auto Match , my 10-22 loves it and most CCI ammo works well in it to.
If anyone is interested the Weaver rails were glued to the frame or barrel using epoxy. Before glueing both surfaces were cleaned with acetone.
After the glue cured the sights were mounted being careful not to stress the rails and the glued joints.
The advantage of epoxy is that it can be softened with a hot air gun and removed.
I believe if you send an older one to Ruger, they will install a transfer bar safety.
I have a newer model Ruger Super Single Six (I bought it brand new in 1999). It's built just as rugged at the old ones.
The Wranglers are built with cheaper materials to keep the cost down. That why they cost around $329, and a new Super Single Six will cost up almost $800. They're still building the Super Single Six just as rugged and refined as always.
I'm not sure what you mean by a New Model Super Single Six. I'm not familiar with a Super Single Six made in the New Model line.
I have a three-screw Super Single Six; what set it apart from the regular Single Six is the adjustable rear sight (the regular Single Six has a dove-tail rear sight).
There are Single Sixes available in the New Model line in the Flat top design (still with adjustable sights), but they are Lipsey's exclusives, and are in .32 H&R caliber only. Otherwise, all Single Sixes have adjustable rear sights.
The new Super Wrangler has a MSR price of $329, but the Wrangler lists at $269 for most models. Some are higher.
The Super Single Six is an old model designation; the regular Old Model Single Sixes had a dovetailed rear sight, while the Super Single Sixes have an adjustable rear sight (I have one, made in 1973).
If you look enough, you'll find Wranglers online for under $180 easily (of course, you add shipping, tax, and the receiving FFL's transfer charge, but that shouldn't make the whole shebang over about $220).
Now, if you are talking about the Super Wrangler, you can find them for about $225, plus, plus, plus.
I shall not be sending it anywhere
The Wrangler has a steel barrel and cylinder, an aluminum alloy frame, and a Zamak (zinc, copper, magnesium and aluminum alloy) grip frame, according to Ruger. It is cheaper to manufacture and machine these alloys than steel.
I'm looking forward to picking up the super wrangler!
@@rifleman17hmrshooter It's a winner for sure.
Howdy from Corpus Christi Texas. Outstanding video 👍 👍
Howdy neighbor! Shout out any requests!
No request at all. Just looking forward to the next video. Once again outstanding work👍 that ruger single six is top self. I've had the 22lr yellow rose, the 22lr colt frontier, and the ruger wrangler. All great but I agree with you on the wrangler.
I have a 65 model single six my gramps sent it to ruger in 83 and they put a transfer bar in it I still have the original parts still sealed in the bag from ruger, it's so much better then my heritage SA 22 but I can buy four to one.
I bought the Ruger Wrangler with the idea of hunting so now I'll be practicing shooting golf balls at long range to be ready for those applications the gun we carry should be what we shoot most at different ranges it could be what's needed to save a life one day I'll even admit I could use my shotgun more often it only gets used as a hunting tool because of that I'm not great with it 😆 everyone should challenge themselves with shooting sports
Thanks for the video. You've convinced me to go with the new Ruger Single Six Convertible over the Wrangler. How's the quality build on the newer model Single Six's?
I have a single 10. I do want the Wrangler 22lr 22mag. Why not? A few hundred for one.
That would be the Super Wrangler. The Wrangler doesn't have a .22Mag cylinder available.
Nice comparison
Thanks!
Just traded for a Single Six new model with the transfer bar. I've owned the old model and the new.
I get better accuracy with the new model, I think it's because the new model comes with better sights and the advancements in the process of making the barrels make a difference.
I would like to see which one you prefer and which was more accurate.
I've shot both, I didn't think there's a real noticeable difference other than the cocking mechanism
The single six's grip frame is also alumnium
I just discovered this video after purchasing a New Single Six convertible revolver...I was wondering about the external dimensions...excluding the barrel length, will the same holster fit both revolvers?
I imagine so
Mine is a 71 three screw with a 4 and 3/4 inch muzzle I never sent it back for the upgrade and have never had an incident I love and hope to burried with it
I have best of both worlds.
Mine is a single six new model.
It looks like your single six.
No half cock for loading, just Open the loading gate. But there is indexing. The sights are fully adjustable up and down and left to right.
All steel and wooden grips.
Six inch Barrel.
Years ago when my eyes were better I could hit a can smaller the a 12oz pop can at 75yards one handed. Can't do that now 😕 lol.
I would like to find an old model for myself and give my new model to my son.
I am teaching him how to shoot it an he loves it.
The Super Wrangler is much nicer than the original wrangler and much more accurate........
I can't find them anywhere!!
I have a wrangler and i love it. However i want to buy a single six quite a bit, solely because of the fit and finish. It's such a beaitiful piece. Having a hard time justifying the price, considering it's a range toy. I want it nonetheless.
Take a look at the super wrangler
@rifleman17hmrshooter oh I want that too haha. Would love it if my wrangler could run 22 mag!
Transfer Bar safety is not a new invention by any means... I have a couple old Iver Johnson Revolvers with that exact same feature....
Compared to direct strike hammer mounted firing pin, or as I call it "hammer tooth". Ruger didn't make the change until later production of many of their revolvers was what I was saying
If you're pulling left, you aren't using the right part of your finger to pull the trigger, pull closer to the tip of your finger
Agreed
I tried bench resting the Wrangler at 15 yards. Then I tried 18 types/ mfgrs of ammo with terrible results. Green tag, mini mags, winchester and remington std and hvhp , and even wichester dynapoints. The singlr 6 and Bearcat both are proven performance, but the wrangler was terrible. At that distance with any ammunition it would be hard to keep them all in a head of cabbage. The other 2 I can take squirrel hunting. It's sad.
Wait wait wait.... as I see already addressed, the barrel on the Wrangler and Super Wrangler have steel barrels and cylinders, aluminum alloy frame and zinc alloy frame. Get it right. I have a 1957 vintage Single six and it is without a doubt, better quality but the Wrangler is a modern version....
Well yeah of course the barrel is steel. I was referring to the frame
The barrel is steel on the wrangler
Correct
The wrangler is a nice price… but if your spending your money you might as well purchase quality.
Seen a single six that still looks pretty new at a pawn shop for 450..is that an ok price?
Ok price, if it looks new
These days (post Covid), for a New Model in good shape, that's a good price. For an Old Model in good shape, that's a very good price.
Don't ever send that 3 screw to Ruger for anything. They will place the transfer bar safety system in it and ruin the value and function of the gun.
Keyhole means when the round hits the target sideways because of instability not when you put two rounds through basically the same hole. Keyhole is bad.
True and definitely don't want that. The term seems to have double meaning depending which region you're from.
WHY can you not show results from 25 yards, which would prove or deny the guns viability as an effective game gun. Until I see that I won't consider gettIng one.
Sure not a problem! I can get that set up
Can the wrangler hold any other 22 caliber rather than LR
You can shoot 22lr, 22 long, 22 short and 22 snake shot with the wrangler
Don't edit to speed up your shooting.... IMHO
I get what you're saying. The goal is a mix of authenticity and entertainment. Editing out the dead time really makes a difference in making the videos watchable. Same goes for the explanation portions as well. You'd be amazed how much dead footage is cut out
@@rifleman17hmrshooter I get that - maybe just mention that your doing it.
I got a Wrangler to play with until I could get a Single Ten. It's been a lot of fun. Got a Super Wrangler for more fun. Still gonna get that Single Ten.
6:00 - You don't mention that the Single Six is available in several barrel lengths (as is the Wrangler, now). Yours is a 5 1/2" barrel. Also,when mentioning the grips, you could mention that any grips that will fit the new model Single Six (and most new model Blackhawks) will also fit the Wrangler. I do agree that the plastic grips are junk, and I replace them as soon as I can.
Really?? Heck that's good to know!
Very Good video. One handed is more accurate, with revolvers AND semi-automatics because your sight picture is LONGER. Standing sideways to your target (actually 75 to 80 degrees is the most natural and best) with your arm extended is much longer than facing your target with both hands meeting in the middle which is less than your arm length. Shooting two handed, facing your target, is a defensive handgun technique. Less accurate but better for that purpose.
Also, in my opinion, when shooting any firearm from a rest it is best NOT to rest the barrel of the gun on the rest. Support the gun with your hand and heal of the pistol on the rest so the rest does not effect the shot. With a rifle the forearm of the gun's stock is on the rest, not the barrel. And it should not be at the tip or end of the stock but closer to, and just in front of, the rifle's balance point. NRA competition bullseye for pistols, revolvers and semi-automatics, is shot at 50 feet. 15 yards/45 feet is close to that. In my opinion both are a good range to judge a pistol's accuracy, like 100 yards is a good range to judge a rifle's accuracy. 7 and 12 yards are more of self defense pistol distances. When shooting for fun any distance you like is best.
Totally bs, you obviously aren't very well versed in shooting pistols
It's the sight radius you may be thinking of, and that's dependent on the distance between the front and rear sights, not on your stance. On handguns, the longer sight radius is usually a factor of barrel length; the longer the barrel, the greater the sight radius.
And you're off on the rest, too. It's the frame that should be on the rest, not the heel of the grip frame.
Wrangler isnt even close to being as accurate.
I don't know why you'd take a cheap shot at nutnfancy. He puts out quality in field videos with amazing views.
I don't like the guy because he's very disrespectful to viewers. The whole fake operator thing is lame, but I especially don't like it when a creator craps on his audience
@boomstick 779 Rifleman produces great content and he has my respect. He is honest, clear spoken and a true America guy
Ruger Wrangler compared to a Ruger Single Six? This is a joke ....RIGHT...??? NO COMPARISON.....if you're buying a gun for accuracy....bottom line is "Don't buy a Ruger Wrangler"....... it's just that simple...!
Not what I got from THIS vidio. Not everyone can afford to just go buy a nice single six, as much as they might like to.
@@larrynason8716 Pay Less- Expect Less....!
In my case it was buy the Wrangler or don't buy anything. Reality of finances!
Don't buy, save longer.
Single six is a decent gun, stainless version made of all steel is a good gun.
Pot metal Wrangler is no better than Heritage Rough rider, cheap trash.
I have the wrangler. Not the most accurate gun. But it's fun to plink around with