How To Install J Channel Around A Door

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  • čas přidán 25. 05. 2021
  • In this video, I will show you how to install J channel around a door. How to install J channel around windows is the same way you do a door without a bottom piece. When you install vinyl siding, you must install J channel. I instruct you with how to cut J channel and how to fasten j channel. Vinyl siding is easy when you know how to install vinyl siding trims properly! .
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Komentáře • 174

  • @timisham4353
    @timisham4353 Před 2 lety +25

    Been doing siding for 30 sum year always let sides run up long and 45 top peace with rain tabs looks much neater and no gaps at intersecting corners

    • @2010pinmaster
      @2010pinmaster Před 2 lety +1

      I was just about to say the same. Looks much better with the top corners cut at 45 degrees.

    • @jludtxs
      @jludtxs Před 2 lety

      Do you have you a pic? Are you saying rain tabs from the sides and the top?

    • @travishenry8291
      @travishenry8291 Před 2 lety

      Don't have the 30 years experience but have been a vinyl installer for a while now and my mentor taught me the same way with 45 angles. Looks much neater. Do the same thing with windows and inside corners

    • @stevenhunter3301
      @stevenhunter3301 Před 2 lety

      Lol ya I was cringing when he cut it flush

  • @christopherdekonstrukt444

    This worked out really well, because I used a drip cap there's a small gap between it and the J-channel. I'm glad I didn't 45 the corners as this just adds complexity and more of a chance of making it look sloppy. Next year I will replace the soffit and siding and keep tuned to your channel so I can save a ton of money and be able to build something awesome on my own.

  • @donkerns588
    @donkerns588 Před 3 lety +10

    Josh, just wanted to let you know that your videos were so helpful to me and my project. I was replacing a flat roof on my porch with a gable roof. Your video on intersecting a gable roof with an existing roof was spot on for me. Even the 7/12 pitch stuff worked because that too was the pitch of my house roof. Videos on fasciae, soffits, j-channel and f-channel, bird boxes and installing and bending metal fascia were all extremely helpful.

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Před 3 lety +1

      Hey Don! I’m glad I was able to show you some tips and tricks to your projects. I learned most of my skills from my father and I feel blessed to be able to share them with others via youtube. Best of luck to you with your projects!

    • @jordangrogan853
      @jordangrogan853 Před 2 lety

      @@TheExcellentLaborer 000

  • @christopherdekonstrukt444

    I installed my first entry door thanks to your videos. I have another one to do at the end of the month. This one, unlike the one I just did that went between the inside garage to the dining room, goes from the garage to the outside and will be exposed to rain so this video will be helpful. I have flashing tape, a sill pan, and a drip cap ready to go. There's already J-channel on the old door, I may be able to reuse it.

  • @donaldbozek8505
    @donaldbozek8505 Před 8 měsíci +4

    I’ve always nailed trims and corners tight and never had a issue. I also leave less of a gap between siding and channels than manufactures recommend to prevent excessive bug build up behind siding. It’s usually summer so it will not expand any further than it already is. Any movement with a audible end tap is good. I once measured a full piece in freezing weather then brought it inside to fully warm and measured it again and the expansion was pretty insignificant. I have lots of tricks to make old crooked ass homes look straight, I try to make them look like new homes not newly sided old homes.

  • @buckpowers4837
    @buckpowers4837 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Lessons from a master installer. You make a lot of work look so easy.

  • @melvindimes6376
    @melvindimes6376 Před 2 lety

    This really helped.
    I'm installing a security storm door.
    I have to move the Jay back 1 inch around the door. Thanks, Mel.

  • @floyd4311
    @floyd4311 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for posting this video. I've watched many of these and this one was the easiest for me to follow.

  • @DB-cx6cb
    @DB-cx6cb Před rokem

    Great job Josh! As a Homebuilder I had hired a crew who did a vinyl job who obviously didn’t adhere to best practice recommendation from Vinyl manufacturer. Thank God I had not paid the Jack-wagon crew. Thankfully another Vinyl crew who happened to be next door doing an installation was laughing at how my installation was being done and I ask them what’s up? They informed me my crew was not allowing for expansion when nailing vinyl to wood. Needless to say it all was removed and the crew next door ended up with the job!
    For any DYI, Josh is correct, if the Vinyl can’t slide after nailing, temperature change will cause the vinyl to warp or worse snapping at the nail slots will occur!
    Thanks Josh for information to prevent folks who want todo their own projects correctly!

    • @scottshepard3662
      @scottshepard3662 Před rokem +1

      A few years ago people sided a house down the road from me, apparently they nailed it tight, or cut it too tight. After the first summer the entire house was buckling! They left it like that for years because they couldn't afford to have it redone...it looked absolutely terrible.

  • @franko7357
    @franko7357 Před rokem

    Another great video Josh, I had to go behind the crew I hired a year ago and water proof the j channels on all of my doors!

  • @chrischambers375
    @chrischambers375 Před 2 lety +2

    I just started contracting and your videos are extremely helpful! Love your channel my man keep up the killer work 🤘🏼

  • @adammonahan687
    @adammonahan687 Před 3 lety +38

    Add a inch and a 1/8 to the sides so you can 45 them. Much cleaner look that way

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Před 3 lety +19

      Some people like the 45s and some like the straight cuts. I like the straight cuts. Thanks for your comment!

    • @liveonlock2867
      @liveonlock2867 Před 2 lety +3

      My pops always does it like that, gives it a sharp look

    • @TheRealVsauce
      @TheRealVsauce Před 2 lety +1

      1/8? That Jay channel thickness is way over 1/8

    • @adammonahan687
      @adammonahan687 Před 2 lety +2

      @@TheRealVsauce a inch a 1/8 can you not read what I wrote. 1 1/8 in is the thickness of that J channel......

    • @frankly2677
      @frankly2677 Před 2 lety +4

      I personally wouldnt do a 45, a straight cut kicks the water out further on the siding.

  • @JoseNLopez-up8tx
    @JoseNLopez-up8tx Před 3 lety +1

    Josh saludos bendiciones gracias x compartir excelentes videos. Me a Sido de gran ayuda tus vídeos muchas gracias desde indianapolis Indiana 🇬🇹 🇬🇹❤️🙏

  • @szpaner87
    @szpaner87 Před 3 lety +4

    I always did 45. Looks much better and hold 2 pieces tight together nicely

  • @rolaca8410
    @rolaca8410 Před 10 měsíci

    Hey Josh, Thank you for nice video
    I got it easy, I glad to follow you.👍

  • @juicer911
    @juicer911 Před 3 lety +1

    NICE. Simple explanation and install video!

  • @ScottieBMan
    @ScottieBMan Před rokem +1

    Thanks man! Been referencing your videos a lot! Your great

  • @markdaugherty6378
    @markdaugherty6378 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for the great explanation

  • @epigmeniomoreno9981
    @epigmeniomoreno9981 Před 2 lety

    Muy buena explicación gracias

  • @tcidevelopment5996
    @tcidevelopment5996 Před 3 lety +1

    Looking good buddy! Keep up the good work.

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Před 3 lety

      Thanks! I enjoy making these videos and building so it’s fun for me. Stay tuned!

  • @lewisstambaugh9883
    @lewisstambaugh9883 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for being so thorough with your details in all your videos. Excellent teacher!!

  • @samuelchaseshoptaw365

    Awesome, thanks for the video

  • @MrAdamd83
    @MrAdamd83 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for showing a first timer on how to do vinyl I’m doing a project right now

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Před rokem

      You are welcome Adam!

    • @MrAdamd83
      @MrAdamd83 Před rokem

      If I could show you my project I have a side of the room that is going to be tricky to vinyl as the side has pipes coming out of wall dryer vent and the starter strip is gonna be hard to do

  • @hudaniel3213
    @hudaniel3213 Před 2 lety +1

    best instruction so far.

  • @collietree1945
    @collietree1945 Před rokem

    I gotta do this around my basement walk out. Builders jack my siding up around my french door. Gonna fix it myself. Thanks

  • @loumonte658
    @loumonte658 Před 3 lety +1

    Nice, the house is getting there now🍻

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks Lou! It’s a work in progress but it’s getting there. Cheers! 🍻

  • @kriscrosby3552
    @kriscrosby3552 Před 2 lety +6

    No house wrap tape or flashing tape?

  • @bedir4655
    @bedir4655 Před 11 měsíci

    Great video. Thanks for sharing! How about transition from garage PVC frame to vinyl siding? Is it going to be the same process?

  • @jagatmagar5784
    @jagatmagar5784 Před 2 lety

    Hey Josh, Thanks a lot for the video. Really helpful. Questions: what is the width of the J channel used and where did you buy it from? seems that the home depot and Lowes does not sell it.

  • @clintonwayne9165
    @clintonwayne9165 Před 2 lety +6

    I thought the top edges had to be cut at a 45 with rain tabs to make the water drain behind them and down the sides?

  • @edimendez4530
    @edimendez4530 Před 6 měsíci

    Thanks again Josh

  • @jamestyrer6067
    @jamestyrer6067 Před 10 měsíci +1

    THANKS FOR THIS INFORMATION

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Před 10 měsíci

      You are welcome! I do offer a membership for more community support!

  • @chaunceyrash5067
    @chaunceyrash5067 Před rokem

    Again my go to.

  • @Danko88
    @Danko88 Před 2 lety

    Josh what are your thoughts on caulking the J-channel to the Brick molding?

  • @ChasingAmyC
    @ChasingAmyC Před 2 lety

    Super easy wuestion. Can I ask how you cut a "45" on 2 pieces of vinyl L-trim I am trying to put around my shower doorway? It's 1/2 inch by 2/3 inches. Please help.
    Tyty

  • @Monsterverseevolvedgodzilla

    Thank you !

  • @oneundecided
    @oneundecided Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you for this video. There are 5/8 and 3/4 J channels available in Home Depot. Which J-channel I should use for siding installation?

  • @tysonsarina
    @tysonsarina Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for your videos. Very helpful. What is the white strip where the deck meets the wall and goes over the house wrap?

  • @jamesdean1598
    @jamesdean1598 Před 3 lety

    Thanks Josh this was very helpful. I have to replace my exterior door. Dumb question maybe, do i need to disturb the j-channels when I remove the brick molding around the door?

    • @stevenhunter3301
      @stevenhunter3301 Před 2 lety

      As long as the channel is not fastened to the brick mold I have seen guys zip screw the channel to the brick mold which always screws ya when you replace the door or simply wrap the brick mold with trim coil

  • @emiliojorge5794
    @emiliojorge5794 Před 3 lety +1

    Excellent Ty

  • @jragster
    @jragster Před rokem

    Thanks

  • @user-wy2fi8ze4c
    @user-wy2fi8ze4c Před 2 měsíci +1

    Very good thanks ❤❤

  • @christopherdekonstrukt444

    Put in a new back door to garage, had to rebuild the rough opening and half the wall. I'm installing J-channel now.

  • @jeff_9074
    @jeff_9074 Před rokem

    So the house wrap or any sort of tyvek tape doesn't need to be applied over the j channel on the top of the door? Thanks!

  • @jerryporter4898
    @jerryporter4898 Před rokem

    Do you caulk between the brick molding and the j channel?

  • @lucpier
    @lucpier Před 2 lety +3

    I would have put a drip cap on the top

  • @robmacneill876
    @robmacneill876 Před 2 lety +5

    I personally think if the J was 45 degrees on the corners it would have a better finished look.

  • @veegee3447
    @veegee3447 Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome👍😎

  • @queentishay85
    @queentishay85 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks 🙏🏿

  • @carlosenriquemartinaguilar3785

    I like the work if it takes up labor, count on me 👌👌

  • @muohiodpowell1974
    @muohiodpowell1974 Před rokem

    Can you use aluminum screws instead of nails?

  • @marlinweekley51
    @marlinweekley51 Před 2 lety +1

    strange door placement - particularly with a right hand swing. nice video though (hints: the house wrap should fit completley around door opening and folded in before installing the door. I would also use flashing tape around the door before the j channel/siding install)

  • @TheRealVsauce
    @TheRealVsauce Před 2 lety

    Great explination video! Quick question ... I couldn't source a starter strip so I cutoff a strip from the top of a piece of siding ... anyone ever do that? Does it hold up well?

    • @blueputtee
      @blueputtee Před rokem

      It works.
      Also you can cut a piece of siding and put behind the siding to push it out against the siding to help prevent rain from going inside the siding in the trim.

  • @Raysin128
    @Raysin128 Před 2 lety +1

    You are the best

  • @elcampoylaciudadmx
    @elcampoylaciudadmx Před 11 měsíci

    Mil gracias por esto ahora ya sé cómo cortar el l Sairin

  • @joeburton7784
    @joeburton7784 Před rokem

    @TheExcellentLaborer how do i nail j channel when the siding is already installed? i took a window out and had to replace the j channel only. there’s a lot of room to nail it in place. thx.

  • @Rick-tb4so
    @Rick-tb4so Před 2 lety +1

    Good video..

  • @pa.fishpreacher6166
    @pa.fishpreacher6166 Před 2 lety

    Josh, I hve a plastic box that the g as co uses to read the monthly bill whatever it is, it is connected to the gas meeter. The J channel will not set flush against the box for it has plastic sticking out on the sides of it. Almost looks like a screw or bolt would be inside of these things. My issue is the J, if I set it out away from the box a little water will surely get in behind the siding. Also the bottom protrudes out more than the top does of the box. I tried a molding box like for a light or such but because the bottom sticking out more the box will not fit. What would you do in this situation?

  • @newtothisarea
    @newtothisarea Před 2 lety

    How does the flap fit in there on top corner

  • @JChaseS
    @JChaseS Před 2 lety

    Hey josh, do you think you can help me find some black j-channel for my door? Everything i see is white

  • @Webendowed
    @Webendowed Před 2 lety

    Why are you using egg shell j on the left and dark grey on the right? Just curious is all.

  • @cecilwebb2277
    @cecilwebb2277 Před 11 měsíci

    Most quality vinyl siding jobs 45 their corners and add drip behind the J at the top of doors and windows. But good explaination.

  • @lmb5826
    @lmb5826 Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you Josh! I was building a shed to match the house with some leftover vinyl siding that was left behind by the roofing/siding contractor after repairing the hail damage a few years back. Putting the siding on three of the side was no big deal, but i didn't have the slightest idea of how to put siding around a door to the shed. Now I know!

  • @sanchochavez6907
    @sanchochavez6907 Před rokem

    Thanks for the tip I'm gonna soon do my siding I'm my own this was very helpful straight n forward.

  • @craiglumbra4871
    @craiglumbra4871 Před rokem

    Hi Josh. I’m looking to side my place in Florida (single wide with metal siding). Glad I checked out your videos. They are great. I do have a question. The windows were recently replaced and the trim around them is flush to the metal siding. I’m thinking j-channel around the window may not be the answer given it has nothing to butt up against. Is there any other type of trim I could use in that case?
    Thanks

    • @Rottweiler30
      @Rottweiler30 Před rokem

      Jumbo J. Or build out your windows and aluminum cap them.

  • @AchillesWrath1
    @AchillesWrath1 Před rokem

    Is there a way to replace that J channel trim around a door without taking all the vinyl siding off? Mine is all busted up on the bottom from a weed wacker. Or maybe a way to just replace a small piece on the bottom and not the whole thing?

  • @davidarevalo5413
    @davidarevalo5413 Před 2 lety

    Great video. Question, what is that material that is on the walls with the Lowes on it ? Is that a moisture barrier?

    • @StarsLitBlack
      @StarsLitBlack Před rokem

      Yes it's moisture barrier. Also referred to as Tyvek

  • @hansjensen7823
    @hansjensen7823 Před 3 měsíci

    Curious why there’s no flashing tape between the Tyvek and the door frame?

  • @matthewrennie8581
    @matthewrennie8581 Před rokem

    So much for drip cap and miter joints

  • @micahhammonds
    @micahhammonds Před rokem +1

    Do you have to remove the j-trim when you remove your old exterior door and install a new exterior door?

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Před rokem

      Good question. No, you do not. The trim goes around the door and will not interfere with removal. Hope that helps!

  • @SuperAsian78
    @SuperAsian78 Před 2 lety +1

    Hey Josh.. how would the vinyl siding sit in on the top j channel??

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Před 2 lety +1

      He would leave about a quarter inch cut around the top of the J channel. Hope that helps!

  • @weekendhomeprojects
    @weekendhomeprojects Před 3 lety +4

    What keeps water from getting between the J channel and the brick molding?

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Před 3 lety +1

      The J channel acts as a flashing around objects so water should not go behind it. I will use flashing tape on door that get a lot of rain water. Check out my how to install an exterior door in 10 minutes video to see how I flash a door. Thanks for watching!

    • @framnerdan
      @framnerdan Před 3 lety +1

      Hey Josh! Where did you get your building paper from?!.....
      Haha
      Great video!

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Před 3 lety +1

      @@framnerdan From Home Depot😂 Thanks Amazing!!

    • @stephenremo9200
      @stephenremo9200 Před 3 lety +1

      Nope..
      Drip cap is necessary. Maybe ok if there is a roof over door but if there is a second floor with windows over the door it will leak without a drip cap

  • @apauln
    @apauln Před 2 měsíci

    I've never seen it done without a 45-degree connection. I don't understand why you did it this way. @ 8:04 That is going to be visible when the siding is on.

  • @paulemmm2538
    @paulemmm2538 Před 2 lety +2

    Is caulking necessary between the j-channel and the door molding?

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Před 2 lety

      I can see where that could be a good idea but no one does that. Good question though Paul!

    • @jludtxs
      @jludtxs Před 2 lety

      How about a thin weather strip? I am dealing with rit around my door that came from that tiny crevice. I'm going to check out your flashing vid. I almost feel like I should do both. We get tropical storms and hurricanes here.

  • @jesseborden7181
    @jesseborden7181 Před měsícem

    Should you put jchannel at bottom of the door if you intend to build detached deck. I removed the “ledger” board which was totally screwed up anyway and worthless. I put jchannel at bottom with the finishing strip inside it. I am changing from an attached deck (which rotted a lot in my wall and caused carpenter bees living inside) to a freestanding deck. Building an attached deck unless it is for a second story seems like it causes more harm than good.

  • @johnotoole5786
    @johnotoole5786 Před 2 lety

    Yo hacky whers ur flip nail? K heres a lesso u put a sideways nail in falange where u nail thus takn the crown out of the j n puttn pressure against the jamb or l bend window casing inside corner return etc.

  • @beachboardfan9544
    @beachboardfan9544 Před 3 lety +1

    Sound info, but I think a mitered edge looks better

  • @lonnieclemens8028
    @lonnieclemens8028 Před 2 měsíci

    Now I know what j-channel is used for.

  • @nyhis5533
    @nyhis5533 Před 11 dny

    Definitely should have been 45d on the corners. The vertical J should have extended 1” above door molding. I get the complication but that’s the right way.

  • @lamey99
    @lamey99 Před 2 lety +3

    Where's the°45 @?

  • @bubbap8595
    @bubbap8595 Před 2 měsíci

    Id be in trouble. This is wrong on every job ive been on. Guess its preference but a 45 on top corners is so much better. That way isnt wrong that you did but leaves a lot of potential for a gap later on.

    • @user-pe1ic5wt8h
      @user-pe1ic5wt8h Před 2 měsíci

      It's only a preference if you can't do a proper 45. Those straight cuts are gross and wouldn't fly on any of the jobs I've been on.

  • @johnotoole5786
    @johnotoole5786 Před 2 lety

    U c the gap between the j n molding thus the flip nail bud

  • @jaydencaines1723
    @jaydencaines1723 Před rokem +1

    No drip cap?

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Před rokem

      I do not use that if the door is under cover such as a covered deck in this case. I hope that helps!

  • @KELLBROOKS
    @KELLBROOKS Před 2 měsíci +1

    Should of 45 the corners

  • @johndough1966
    @johndough1966 Před 2 lety +7

    Again I ask, why aren't you using sill gaskets, flashing membranes or even sheathing tape at ALL wall penetrations. Ive watched a few of your videos now and you never use them. This practice just would not pass inspections by institutes such as CMHC or any other warranty programs. Please, do more home work.

    • @aspensulphate
      @aspensulphate Před rokem +1

      No comment from the "excellent laborer".

    • @teamdada2194
      @teamdada2194 Před 8 měsíci +2

      He is just concerned with views not quality. His name will be known in 10 yrs when other contractors have to fix his stuff.

  • @user-pe1ic5wt8h
    @user-pe1ic5wt8h Před 2 měsíci

    The only people I've ever met who "prefer" those butt cuts are the people who can't do s proper 45 degree cut. The first thing anyone doing vinyl siding should learn is a proper 45 cut around windows and doors.

  • @Mrbagelbonk
    @Mrbagelbonk Před 8 měsíci

    Why no 45 on the corners. I can honestly say I'm not a fan of the j trim install. Very beginner typer j trim

  • @johnotoole5786
    @johnotoole5786 Před 2 lety

    Its 12 ft 6 just like double 4

  • @cristobaltzepixtos5294

    Explicar en español

  • @scottmoore3741
    @scottmoore3741 Před rokem

    Hey not trying to be an ass try going up an inch on your sides cut out your inner inch but leave the outter amd back an inch up and 45 your tops, ive found its alot cleaner look

  • @jeremiahhartin2581
    @jeremiahhartin2581 Před rokem

    Why is that door there, and how is that approved, won't open in 8 months

  • @pingpong9656
    @pingpong9656 Před 3 lety +1

    A mitre would have looked even nicer on top.

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Před 3 lety

      Maybe. Depends on what you like.

    • @pingpong9656
      @pingpong9656 Před 3 lety

      @@TheExcellentLaborer Don't get me wrong - your work is excellent - just thought, in my opinion, it would be nice mitred so it matches the mitres on the door frame, but I know full well theory and practice can be very different!

  • @TheExcellentLaborer
    @TheExcellentLaborer  Před 3 lety +1

    How did you like my Dad joke? 😂

    • @framnerdan
      @framnerdan Před 3 lety +1

      Dad joke rocked

    • @TheExcellentLaborer
      @TheExcellentLaborer  Před 3 lety

      @@framnerdan I do what I can. Thanks Amazing!

    • @larrybowers8323
      @larrybowers8323 Před 2 lety

      I would have "framed" the question differently. I hope this joke really "measured" up to yours, did I "nail it"?!

  • @christopherdekonstrukt444

    You didn't 45 it, I find doing that complicates things.

  • @ardvark16
    @ardvark16 Před 2 měsíci

    45’s

  • @johnotoole5786
    @johnotoole5786 Před 2 lety

    Dude its a standard door so u should know cut 86 inches

  • @Ocyress87
    @Ocyress87 Před rokem

    ugg fired
    you see sheeting its not sealed failed building codes here in every way

  • @thegrantdanielsband
    @thegrantdanielsband Před 10 dny

    NO!!! 45 the corners looks like a homeowner did their own job??? Professionals 45 the corners IMO 🙂

  • @stevenhunter3301
    @stevenhunter3301 Před 2 lety

    Who and the hell gets board and batten and slruns it horizontal lol looks way better vertical just saying

  • @joelcabrera9138
    @joelcabrera9138 Před 3 lety +1

    Vynil doesn't xpand and contract, any structure Wood does, you have to leave slack on j channel for that reason