Fox Proframe RS Full Face Helmet In-Depth Look - Dissected
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- čas přidán 10. 10. 2022
- The new Fox Proframe RS helmet is aimed at the aggressive mountain biker and eMTB rider who wants the latest features, tech and design. We reviewed the last generation Fox Proframe a couple years back and really liked the helmet overall, but felt there were a few areas other riders would like to see improved. It seems Fox Racing took that feedback well, as the new Proframe RS helmet sports some impressive styling, the new MIPS Integra Split protection system and yes, more adjustability! From the visor to the fit, the new Fox Proframe RS claims to be the helmet your head deserves. Let’s Dissect this new DH-certified lid and share our impressions so far.
THE TECH
SAFETY
Earlier this year we headed down to Fox Racing HQ in Irvine, California for a Behind the Brands feature. While we were there, we got ourselves a couple of the new Proframe RS helmets to begin testing in preparation for this launch. We also got to meet up with Shaun Ryan, Product Manager for Fox Bike and Moto divisions. Shaun was kind enough to sacrifice a helmet for us a cut one apart so we could take a better look at the industry’s first use of the MIPS Integra Split system.
MIPS Integra Split takes slip plane technology to the next level as there are now two layers of foam of different densities and types to provide even more protection. The inner liner is EPP and is designed to take multiple low-speed hits, will offer protection from the more common impacts riders see. Attached via woofers (elastomers) that can move 360 degrees, this separated inner EPP liner offers rotational impact damping as well as softer foam for sub-concussive forces.
The outer layer is made of EPS, which is found on other helmets on the market. It is designed to crack when it absorbs impacts from larger, high-speed impacts that could cause greater single-hit trauma. Combining the EPP and EPS should give more effective protection across a wider range of impact velocities.
FIT
Improving the adjustability from the preceding Fox Proframe helmet, the new Proframe RS claims to have 624 fit combinations available. There are three sizes available in the Proframe RS and each size now includes a BOA Fit System. Further adjustment comes from the four-step adjustable cradle located at the back of the helmet. This allows users to fine-tune where the BOA system snugs up around the head. Different layer cheek pads are also available to ensure a proper fit. You can give Fox’s “Fit Guide” video a watch here: • FOX MTB | PROFRAME RS ...
Snapping the helmet on is easy thanks to a magnetic Fidlock buckle system. We’ve grown to like the Fidlock system as it’s easy to operate one-handed, with gloves on and makes for a quick removal process after the ride.
FEATURES
An adjustable visor allows the new Fox Proframe RS to offer sun or debris protection at various angles while also allowing for goggle storage on long climbs.
Another neat feature on the new visor is the removable GoPro mount for an action camera. It’s easy to use, keeps your footage stable and allows for a seamless application of the mount.
THE WOLF’S FIRST IMPRESSION
Over the course of this summer, we’ve had about six different riders in the new Proframe RS helmet. While most of the riders now love the helmet, it did seem that about 25-30% of riders had an awkward “Getting to know you” phase. Some also noted a tendency for the BOA system to fall towards the center of the helmet when loose, blocking their head from entering the helmet and requiring the spare hand to push it out the way.
With the new design of the helmet and adjustability, it takes a bit more time to really get the Proframe RS dialed in. At least it could, depending on your head shape and size. I’m a 56cm head and went with my standard medium size and felt the crown was pretty accurately sized, and Robert with the same size head agreed. Cheek pads and inner liner pads were played with, and I felt like I could go either way in terms of thicker or thinner cheek pads depending on if I was hitting the bike park or going for a longer eBike mission. With the thicker pads fitted, the helmet feels more secure and downhill-like, whereas longer days in the saddle may be served by a looser fit on the sides and more reliance on the BOA system...
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Great first look into the tech behind this helmet. With how light full-face helmets have become, why would you ever want to wear a half shell? It only takes one crash to smash your jaw on any given ride.
Thanks so much. I've been waiting for your review of this helmet.
Great review and I watched all of full face helmet review videos! Unfortunately I'll with for it to go on sale. Damn it is insane how expensive mtb helmets are compared to motorcycle dirt helmets!
Love the look of these!!!
The timing is perfect for this release for me, I currently have a Stage and a Gambit and love and hate things about them both, I am hoping this will be the best of both of those. Riding in the south heat management is critical and that is where the stage comes up short compared to the Garmbit. The Gambit though doesn't have fidlock and just doesn't seem to be as comfortable as the Stage with its padding.
Visor adjust just made this perfect helmet.
The built-in go pro mount is awesome!
Yeah super cool
It would be interesting to see a lab test of all helmets you can get your hands on. chin guard test, various angles and types of impacts.
We agree!!
I hope one day they make them in XXL or above size (65cm-66cm). I tried the XL for a week and the fit was so excessively tight that putting it on destroys my ears and gave me migraines at every use with no room for coms or sunglasses. I genuinely like how the helmet looks including its features, but the lack of size for the truly big-headed is a major bummer.
You say it's gotten lighter but isn't it heavier than the proframe?
Pro frame RS - Weight: 820 g (size medium) vs Proframe - 750 g, size medium
looks great and love boa but all that open space at the back of helmet around boa adjust worries me a little, hate to catch a pointed rock in there. Question: how is weight and heat/air flow on this for all day trail riding?
Would be interesting to see trail/AM helmet with the same features from them.
I just wish they added the mesh or plastic vents over the chin bar...
Nothing like getting debris shot into your helmet when you're following someone...
One of the reasons I didn't like my last Proframe.. I would reconsider having that option if they had it, or at least ones that are able to be inserted.. Which would be a cool customizable feature you could work with..
That would be cool actually.
Hey.. has anyone tried to compare the shell size between two sizes Small and Medium, and are they feel totally different when fit with our head.. understand that head size ranging from 54cm - 56cm would fit with those two sizes
I've crashed and busted 2 of these helmets now, and have had no lasting injuries. They cost $$$ but its worth it to be able to walk away from crashes. Totally worth it in my opinion, great helmets.
Light and airy enough to wear for trail rides too, I rarely grab my half shell anymore. For the added safety the full face offers, and as comfortable as it is, a great all round option as well as being optimal for enduro/DH.
For what it's worth, one of my crashes was an OTB onto rocks head first at 30kmh, and the other was at 40+kmh down a 1m rock drop where I landed flat on my back and had a rock contact square on the back of the helmet. If you're thinking about buying this helmet, do it.
Wow that's crazy to hear and very glad you're still alright after those wrecks! Appreciate you sharing your experience as well.
@@TheLoamWolf I'm currently laid up with a broken leg from the second crash, that was this Saturday just gone 😂 but the main point is the helmet did its job, and my head is still in one piece with not even a concussion or headache.
No worries at all 👍
Ah bummer to hear it, but sounds like it could have been worse!! Heal quickly and best of luck.
My head is 60cm, 7 1/2 in hat size. The large proframe RS is just a lil bit to big even with it at its tightest.
I would say the Sumyt in L fits a hair tighter than the Mhdrn in a L but is still not snug to be a comfortable fit for me.
I also tried on Medium for both of those RS models which fit just a lil to tight, almost a perfect fit. Only problem was the shell was too small and almost ripped my ears off removing the helmet.
My solution would be a medium inside head liner with a large shell.
Ended up Getting the the original proframe in a L. Fits perfect
I have the same issue !
have the exact same Proframe RS in a medium, but having to return it. Im a 56cm head, and also wear a Fox rampage Carbon in medium. The sizing difference was noticeable, the Proframe RS was massive even with the boa at full tightened state. In addition, when compared to a couple of mates who got new helmets last week (Smith Mainline light enduro lid and another brand similar) the minimal padding in the Proframe RS actually makes it quite an uncomfortable helmet too. For the money it cost (£310) it felt a bit...overpriced. Super disappointed in it if Im honest. Great looking lid, but not comfortable for me, or for a couple friends who tried it on (for ref one wears a large proframe...and he found the medium RS roomy.
That's interesting, Drew is a 56cm and after dialing in the internal pads, was able to get it feeling snug. Perhaps your particular helmet came with incorrect thickness pads inside that are meant for another size?
@@TheLoamWolf I think anyone with experience with these type of helmets knows the pads don't do much for fitmet for these helmets. In particular the cheek pads etc are extremely soft and compress to almost 0 thickness. The helmet industry is definitely dropping the ball with fitment for helmets. There needs to be a size between Small and Medium.
My head is 23 inches exactly.....that puts me on the high end of the medium and low end of a large. Should I go medium or large? Would it be better to get a helmet where I have to tighten a lot......or loosen a lot for a good fit.
about TIME they have a BOA system.
Hey. I’m a 56cm. What size did you go for being a 56 yourself?
jus bought one
So if the regular pro frame in a large fits me perfectly then the RS should be a medium or large?
Hard to call - most of the team is on the same size, but others have had to size down. Try to test the fit prior to buying, or order multiple and return one if you can't get it locally.
Can you combine it with a LEATT Neckbrace or generally a neckbrace?
Picked one up today and while I use a TLD D4 for park I did a test fit with a Leatt neck brace and it works. If you're using a neck brace though I'd go for a full DH helmet. My D4 is designed with way more focus on neck brace compatibility.
Greetings from bakersfield! Proframe rs vs dianese linea 01 full face?
Fit is always important but we like the Fox.
I tried these on last week and the medium was way too big. I'm a 55-56 usually in motorcycle lids. The small was ok but even with the BOA as tight as it would go I still felt there was a lot of up-down movement (ie grab the chin bar and lift it) which didn't change even with the thickest cheek pads. I really wanted to buy it but after trying it I walked away. Has anyone managed to stop the up-down movement on theirs? I feel like it would be easy to leave my chin exposed in the event of a crash or for the lid to move down over my eyes a bit in a sustained bumpy descent.
These helmets are super sloppy. I think even in this video you can see how much wiggle there is when he puts it on. But that is how these enduro lids are, soft padding giving the illusion of plushness/protection but the foam is entirely too compressible. With REAL dh helmets, the pads are a lot more firm.. and the way you get the helmet on and off your head is by creating a wider opening by prying open the chin bar by pulling laterally on the straps. It is all a trade off in the end though!
Thanks. I’m a 56cm. Should I go for a small or medium in the proframe rd?
Thank you so much for the donation. Greatly appreciated. Sadly you are right on the cusp between sizing. You could likely go either way with pad adjustment inside and honestly the size/shape of your face and cheeks will also have a lot to do with it. I’d say if you have a narrow face maybe try small and if you’ve got a fuller face Medium. But I’d just try to but from a shop that allows returns. Or better yet, buy both sizes try them on back to back and return the one that doesn’t feel best.
I tried on this helmet, but as far as comfort is concerned,it is nowhere near to the Smith Mainline Mips, which I finally purchased. Nice safety breakthroughs though
Thanks for sharing!
Has fox sent some of these to Virginia Tech so we as consumers can compare this helmet to others? (Based on data vs just marketing)
Not yet, but I'm sure they will soon...hopefully
I hope they solved the easily snapping chin guard. I've seen several claims of it with pictures. But I've also seen a video of crashes aa guy jumped a small jump face planted the chinguard snapped, looked like he hit his face or almost did. I've also seen a guy claimed his friend died cus of this helmet. But I don't know if that's true.
But it would be interesteing to see some testeing and a review on it.
but the new helmet is interesting.
There was too much negative on it for me to even try it.
Go do a face plant and report back!
@@Canyon_Shawn It would be interesting to see helmets tested on a test rig, to see how they compare, in specific hits, angles, forces/speedss.
@@mtbboy1993 That would be nice. I just picked up my new Proframe RS today. The fit and build quality is stunning. Better than my Met Paradhute. I’d be dead twice, if it weren’t for a helmet. And, that’s after 18 hours of surgeries. I feel safe wearing this helmet.
Size down? I’m a large in the old Proframe, should I buy Medium?
I was at the bottom of large for the old proframe and I went with medium for the RS. It's a close fit, but no pressure points. Feels safer and more locked on whereas my Proframe always felt a bit loose at 58.5cm. I couldn't get the original medium Proframe to sit correctly.
Nice but still can't beat the lightness of IXS FF mips helmet that weighs only 595g.
When where can I get my hands on the RS with red and white???
It should be available soon. Fox is updating their site as quickly as inventory arrives.
@@TheLoamWolf Thanks! Can you confirm that it's RED and not like an oranges? It's solid red white and black colors yeah? Thanks in advance! My bike is red white black so would be perf.
It sure is, it's as red as red can get. Would probably match your rig perfectly.
It's great to see the basic concept of Bell and Giro's Spherical MIPS being more widely used. Having an EPP inner liner and an EPS out liner rotate spherically around each other (like a 'ball and socket) is a great concept - it's been in the Super DH for around 6 years.
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My current Proframe is noisy when i ride as the MIPS system rubs the inner shell and is really squeaky, MIPS set up looks different on this one. how did this one sound when riding in it?
There was a brief squeak at first but it went away after a few minutes of riding.
Thanks for asking this. I have a Drop Frame and is squeaks way too much. I purchased a Gambit for a fully because of my experience with the Drop Frame, wanted an RS but the one I tried squeaked in the shop with almost no real head movement, so disappointing. It's sort of perplexing that a dialed company like Fox Head would miss this type of thing. I also had a few Giro and Smith helmets that squeak like crazy so it's not just Fox. Bummer for the price.
Love how I can fit my vape in the mouth hole and it fits there and stays there while I ride
That’s rad. I bet you like like a choo choo train moving down the trail huh!
After cracking up my pro frame a few weeks back I tried on the new version, but couldn’t justify the extra $100+ for it and stuck with the pro frame. Too expensive for it to be potentially single use. The tech should have trickled down to the other price point. Fox is being greedy.
Your brain isn’t worth a measly $100? 🤣
@CanyonMiniCooper not when the regular proframe does the job 🤣
@@vindogg80 Until, you hit your head really hard. I’d be dead twice, if it weren’t for a good helmet. And, that’s after 18 hours of surgeries. Spend the extra $100, please!
@CanyonMiniCooper I think you need to reread my comment. I said it's not worth the extra 100 over the traditional proframe which is a great helmet.
@@vindogg80 Having the updated MIPS to safe your skull is priceless. Let’s hope you don’t have to learn that Darwinian lesson.
They need XL size’s .. bike companies always forget the big people. SMH!
I am and don't call me Shirley.
Looks pretty nice. However I was confused by the comment, "good for light bike park duty". Isn't the helmet dh certified? Why wouldn't it be good for bike park, vs a *real dh helmet? Don't they pass same safety standards?
It's a statement completely based on personal bias/preference. Yes it is DH certified, but we'd still rather wear a full-blown DH helmet for full on bike park/DH bike days. You'll likely not see this helmet on World Cup DH racers heads, again, even though it is DH certified. Take that for what you will.
These enduro full faces all have loose-y goose-y fits. With out without the Boa it doesn't help. Not that it should effect safety. Mips is designed looseness anyway.
No grill on the jawline no purchase
Fox (not the tail logo) is so late on this tech. Giro had done it several years ago (look for spherical technology). This Fox proframe rs has no match to Giro insurgent spherical helmet except for the weight and vents.
very sexy looking helmet
the most expensive and the most uncomfortable helmet I ever had on my head.... It's hurting my head and my ears...
They straight up copied the IXS trigger 😂
It has not seen a DH helmet even on a good day. Dont ride DH with it