Funny thing. They had to exaggerate their emotions during this. Tom trained them so well in prep for this, that they felt much more calm than this during actual filming. They just amped it up for the movie. And I know real pilots are also pretty calm during this stuff. They dont yell, or shout that often. But of course, for most people watching a movie, that isnt 'dramatic'.
Yeah. I also felt like Hangman was a reincarnated Iceman. Kinda like the way in Field of Dreams Doc "Moonlight" Graham crossed onto the field and was a young baseball player again.
@@flappysquirrel5132 hangman and maverick with sidelined for their missions as the back up maverick saved ice in the original and hangman saved maverick in the second one. Maverick was arrogant in his younger years so was hangman but at the end mav and ice made up in the first movie and hangman and rooster made up in the second so no they might have a diff family life but in the navy and personality hangman and maverick are similar attitudes
No they actually don't have much in common. Maverick cared deeply about his crew (i.e. Goose) and was worried about his aircraft been maintained and effective. His arrogance and abrasiveness came from trying to live up to the legacy of a father, also a pilot, that he never got to know. Hangman's arrogance comes from being an excellent pilot and he knows it. Things that come naturally to him are a struggle for others and he sees others as inferior because of it. He has no problem sacrificing others to make himself look good in the eyes of his superior officers. They're very different characters.
@@veneziablauI would say Hangman has all of the bravado and center of attention and charisma of Ice Man, but has Mavericks attitude a little where he doesn’t exactly play well with others that he doesn’t respect and already knows who’s the best when in the first movie the trophy was pointed out that way. There’s no trophy this time and he is still that way.
Well, other than the fact that you had enemy fighters on your ass and some turbo-lasers shooting at you, the trench run was simpler in that you had a straight run in to the exhaust port.
Damn, Tom Cruise is absolutely demolishing this scene. Especially when he makes those young pilots realize the true gravity of their mistakes. When he hammers into their heads what it truly means that they failed their mission. It means their colleague is now dead.
Rooster isn't iceman, iceman killed goose and they insult his memory by not only having iceman graduate at the top of his class and winning the trophy but they promoted him to Admiral
@@MohammedKhaled-ju7gy if you remember from earlier in the clip, Iceman cut off Maverick and was intentionally blocking him from taking the shot, and then when he came off high right, he flew straight up and right instead of banking up and right, which caused maverick to fly through the jetwash and cause the flame out and spin, that and also the ejection seat shot goose straight up into the canopy which broke his neck.
This! So much of fiction I think gets this wrong. They all think that the way to build tension is for their to be surprises and to purposely hide things from the audience. To me, the best way to build tension is to let the audience know right from the start that the odds are stacked heavily against heroes.
Honestly it's shocking how many movies forget to do that. Explain the stakes. Why it's important. Why it's so unlikely for the heroes to succeed. In very simple, realistic terms. Not too much technobabble or made up terms. It just helps the audience connect with the protagonists. Not everything has to be spelled out in a movie, but there are so many where the audience is left asking the equivalent of "why not just fly the eagles to Mordor". Which, even if there IS an explanation, if you fail to make the general audience aware of it, it breaks immersion.
Hangman is young Maverick. He even flew that course like Maverick would in his younger days! 😂I read some people say Hangman is the new Iceman but wrong - he is Maverick. Iceman was never just ego-driven and reckless, and too individualistic, Maverick was. This was literally the conflict between Ice and Maverick at first: both were very talented and competitive, but Iceman was more of a team player and responsible, and Maverick wasn't, just as Hangman now isn't. Hangman, just like Maverick once, is the most talented, with a big ego, hot, individualistic, doing his own thing, but at the same time, deep inside, a good guy with a sense of humor, and a great patriot, ready to do everything for the team, he just chose a more twisted, unorthodox way to get there. Just like Maverick, Hangman has a habit of leaving his wingman and going solo, and just like Maverick, Hangman saves the day at the end of the movie, because although he was not the most responsible pilot of the group, he was, in fact, the most unorthodox and talented, the fastest, that's why Mav chose him to be the 'secret weapon' in case of the emergency, and he was right! it's literally in the movie. Hangman is the new, young, modern Maverick. And he should be the focus of the Top Gun 3, I want to know more about Hangman.
I mean, that's not how training for a mission goes... The point is to find out what went wrong and what to do next time to fix it, not just shaming people.
This is an incredibly well written movie...I didnt think I would like it as well as the first one but this movie have some scenes that takes a back seat to none...
Well written? The main plot of this film was to contrive a situation where they could do a star wars trench run... They also apparently don't know what the USP of 5th gen fighters is... Stealth. And then they jumped the shark at the end with that ridiculous entirely CGI F-14 sequence.
My older brother, who was an Airman on a carrier who had/has quite a few pilot buddies, was watching this with us the other day. He says, “why would they have selected so many? I feel like they would’ve just chosen the 6 and trained them for the mission.” In reality he’s probably right but hey that’s Hollywood for ya…😂
Probably true that they would have selected the primaries beforehand, but redundancy is also necessary. Backups in case of a mishap, or one of the primaries not being able to fly the mission for whatever reason (illness, injury, etc). Of course... that's the least of the implausible parts of this entire mission plan. I mean, awesome movie is gonna awesome, but operationally? Someone's being retired over all this.
This was a fun movie that only worked if you turned your brain off. Like why they couldn't simply send in inertial guided cruise missiles. Or why they couldn't fly latest gen fighters in the canyon. It was all absurd. And fun. But definitely absurd.
@@TheSjuris Now THAT makes sense. The F-35 and F-22 are both single-seat aircraft. So it was a cinematic tool, just as they used aircraft in the first place instead of cruise missiles. Thanks for the answer!
Hangman has a point if they can’t keep up they shouldn’t go, hangman’s life is on the line as well. They need the best out there it’s time to start cutting the weak links! A harsh reality but it was proven when rooster went instead of hangman, rooster nearly got himself killed. Hangman wouldn’t have been in that position
@@quintbakerjr2786 But Hangman's entire attitude in training was that only he mattered. He never showed any value and respect for his wingmen. That's why he got made a reserve player.
@@danielhaire6677 But he was the best man for the job!!! His attitude was cocky and confident, plenty of people have that and it isn’t always a bad thing. Rooster could have used some of that, but maverick showed to much favoritism and he put the other pilots lives at risk because of a personal matter. I think that’s way more disrespectful in my opinion it’s like rooster is the only pilot that mattered to him.
This reminds me of the Werewolf mission in Ace Combat 7. The time limit which compels you to go faster plus the narrow passage way made my hands sweaty during those tight maneuvers. And that's just in the game. These people (assuming these a real scenarios) are going to do it live and with the full force of the G's while doing tight maneuvers~
Staying down from enemy SAM sites is like Faceless Soldier though and the Dogfight in the Canyon feels like Ghost of Razgriz where you are forced to fight below
Haha indeed! Have near to zero interest to fighters jet, saw this movie twice and finally bought AC7, and got absolute goosebumps when doing mission 13. What an experience.
I can't begin to imagine the number of grieving families out there that lost their son or daughter in military combat, and the reason they were given sounds completely avoidable if given better training.
Imagine saying to your wingman's family the reason he is dead "he couldn't keep up haha" You would be found murdered, with your body parts covering the neighborhood
I get what they were going for with Hangman, but they went a little heavy handed on him. Maverick was a hot shot in the first top gun. But I never got the feeling he just flat out didn't care about his fellow man. Hangman acts like their lives literally have no meaning. How the fuck did he make it through Top Gun?
This entire plan hinges on the idea that they need to go at breakneck speed through the canyon because they will be detected early and need to get out before intercepts can be launched. Yet on the actual day of the attack the airbase is neutralized by a salvo of cruise missiles, and they aren't detected until those cruise missiles hit the airbase. It would have been better to fly the canyon at a slow, safe speed, avoiding detection, and have the tomahawks arrive in time to strike the airbase simultaneously with their assault on the target. But I guess in reality a coordinated strike like that is difficult to pull off. Maybe Maverick knows from experience that in reality the tomahawks are going to arrive early and reveal them, and any patrolling fighters will be alerted to their position. If that's the case then speeding through the canyon is the correct plan.
IRL, this is a USAF mission, not USN. I am quite sure that the world's largest air force can hit any target it wants, anywhere it wants, anytime that it wants.
@@roberthudson1959Dont think about it too hard. There are a million ways this mission could have been done without so much drama (B2, Combat Air Support to the Strike Package anyone?). Watching this, you'd think the entire US military only had 5 F/A-18s available.
They probably assumed that there would be visual observers that would spot them and decided to take out the airbase quickly to minimize the chances of a full response
The chance of getting throught there unspotted is likely 0. So they needed to be fast to begin with. Keep low against the sams and keep fast to finish the mission before the enemy Bandits return. It´s okay to assume that the moment they go into the canyon they will be spotted by ground units. As to how the actual mission goes, nobody can say, they wire missiles as precaution, will that be enough ? who knows , it´s just another method of leveling the odds. Ideally that strike alone could have killed any enemy adversery, e.g. if their pilots had not started yet. But you cant tell for sure. Considering they might have been spotted from the start it makes perfect sense to start with an airstrike
The only thing I feltl like the movie was missing was Hangman's "sombering" moment. The moment he he realized he needed to change or he was going to outlive all of his wingmen.
660 knots is 759.5 MPH. Sound is 767.3 ... That is flying below 100 ft. The wing span of an F18 is 45 ft. That means they have to be half of that below 100 ft. or flying at 77.5 ft above the surface at Mach 1.
When you do a turn, it's not the force of "gravity" that causes you to feel heavy, it's your mass being moved in a different direction; it's your change in momentum that causes you to be heavy. Besides, electrostatics is a much better and testable explanation for why things fall to the ground rather than "gravity."
This is the moment the pilots realized and understand why they were choose for this mission, in the beginning, it was supposed to be a mission with no return
I wouldve written it slightly different. When approaching the canyon there is a breif window where radar might have spotted you. At that you are to assume you were spotted and enemy fighters are preparing for take off. Giving the 2:30 time limit.
100 feet 'ceiling' - 660knots airspeed (760MPH), through a rock lined twisting cannon, @6Gs while struggling to not pass out- then; destroy a target; then escape the SAMs AND the other enemy aircraft that shows up after. These people aren't even human...
Bob raises his hand isn’t this the same plot scene from Star Wars? Also don’t we have satellite guided gps trackers that are immune to jamming we can launch a 2000 pound missile with penetrator from a b52 way outside of their air space?
in real the mission would be for the air-force by a big margin. the b2 with the MOAP or f117 LGB's could do it on their own . the f16 or f22 would be better to fly in like the movie
Why does marvick has not used F 35 and F 22 as an escord to F 18 since , I think Maximum speed of F 35 and F 22 is all most or slightly more than F 18 without afterburners.
F-22 is Air Force, and the F-35 can't stay out of maintenance. We had F-35s when I was at Luke AFB AZ, but the pilots preferred the F-16s. The F-16s might have been over 40 years old, but they were reliable. 35s kept having issues.
loaded with bombs and targeting pods at low altitude i dont think the f18 could maintain 660 knots, maybe in full afterburner but then you dont have enough fuel . isn't that like .9 mach ?
@@davidboh6030 Iran was my first guess, but the movie climate does not seems to match their climate. Especially, the snowy terrain... And from the options left that do not have already nuclear weapons, the NK was the first in the list with plenty of mountains on their soil. Yeah, the ownership of F-14 sounds strange for them, but they could easily bought them from ally country. Or maybe I'm wrong...
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1986:- "holy shit! It's viper!-"
2023:- "holy shit! It's maverick!"
I wonder if Viper had Maverick’s attitude when he’s younger.
Just the way Maverick was explaining and the pilots were going through sounds so grueling. Hats off to all who pulled it
Funny thing. They had to exaggerate their emotions during this. Tom trained them so well in prep for this, that they felt much more calm than this during actual filming. They just amped it up for the movie. And I know real pilots are also pretty calm during this stuff. They dont yell, or shout that often. But of course, for most people watching a movie, that isnt 'dramatic'.
@@lyianx yeah when I watched i thought it was pretty cheesy but the more i rewatched it the more i like the cheesiness
Hangman and younger maverick have so much in common it’s honestly shocking
Yeah. I also felt like Hangman was a reincarnated Iceman. Kinda like the way in Field of Dreams Doc "Moonlight" Graham crossed onto the field and was a young baseball player again.
...doubt very much that Hangman had to put up with jobsite abuse because his father "disappeared in an F-4 Phantom."
@@flappysquirrel5132 hangman and maverick with sidelined for their missions as the back up maverick saved ice in the original and hangman saved maverick in the second one. Maverick was arrogant in his younger years so was hangman but at the end mav and ice made up in the first movie and hangman and rooster made up in the second so no they might have a diff family life but in the navy and personality hangman and maverick are similar attitudes
No they actually don't have much in common.
Maverick cared deeply about his crew (i.e. Goose) and was worried about his aircraft been maintained and effective. His arrogance and abrasiveness came from trying to live up to the legacy of a father, also a pilot, that he never got to know.
Hangman's arrogance comes from being an excellent pilot and he knows it. Things that come naturally to him are a struggle for others and he sees others as inferior because of it. He has no problem sacrificing others to make himself look good in the eyes of his superior officers.
They're very different characters.
@@veneziablauI would say Hangman has all of the bravado and center of attention and charisma of Ice Man, but has Mavericks attitude a little where he doesn’t exactly play well with others that he doesn’t respect and already knows who’s the best when in the first movie the trophy was pointed out that way. There’s no trophy this time and he is still that way.
“You will fly along a trench and target a small thermal exhaust port”
I mean yeah even the ending matches guy just fuckin eyeballs it and nails it because plot armor l.
Well, other than the fact that you had enemy fighters on your ass and some turbo-lasers shooting at you, the trench run was simpler in that you had a straight run in to the exhaust port.
Right below the main port.
the scientology is strong with this one, may the scientology be with you
That’s impossible even for a computer
Damn, Tom Cruise is absolutely demolishing this scene. Especially when he makes those young pilots realize the true gravity of their mistakes. When he hammers into their heads what it truly means that they failed their mission.
It means their colleague is now dead.
“Was there a reason you didn’t communicate with your team?
One that their family will accept at their funeral”
Goddamn. That gave me chills.
Anyone realize maverick literally became viper as an instructor and hangman became maverick as a student. Rooster is more like iceman
That's how the military works, you know how to handle that guy as a student because you WERE that guy.
I think that was the purpose, my man.
Rooster isn't iceman, iceman killed goose and they insult his memory by not only having iceman graduate at the top of his class and winning the trophy but they promoted him to Admiral
@@deadponic117 that’s one way to look at it but iceman didn’t kill rooster but the tomcat engine designers did technically
@@MohammedKhaled-ju7gy if you remember from earlier in the clip, Iceman cut off Maverick and was intentionally blocking him from taking the shot, and then when he came off high right, he flew straight up and right instead of banking up and right, which caused maverick to fly through the jetwash and cause the flame out and spin, that and also the ejection seat shot goose straight up into the canopy which broke his neck.
The setup leading to the actual mission was awesome. Right here we understand what is at stake and how difficult it is to succeed.
This! So much of fiction I think gets this wrong. They all think that the way to build tension is for their to be surprises and to purposely hide things from the audience. To me, the best way to build tension is to let the audience know right from the start that the odds are stacked heavily against heroes.
This is true. Think of how hard it was for Luke Skywalker to have done this in 1977.
Honestly it's shocking how many movies forget to do that. Explain the stakes. Why it's important. Why it's so unlikely for the heroes to succeed. In very simple, realistic terms. Not too much technobabble or made up terms. It just helps the audience connect with the protagonists. Not everything has to be spelled out in a movie, but there are so many where the audience is left asking the equivalent of "why not just fly the eagles to Mordor". Which, even if there IS an explanation, if you fail to make the general audience aware of it, it breaks immersion.
This movie wasn’t. Long. Enough 😭
With how well its done at the box office, a sequel is probably on the horizon, hopefully with similar quality as this one
@@handsomesquidward5160 but that one Is due for the money. Not for the heart. This movie is gold
“Several fighters have broken off from the main group. Come with me.” - Lord Vader
I like how maverick is explaining gravity, G force, and what it does to the body to a room full of seasoned top gun pilots.
leaving your wingman, a stradegy I havent seen for a while
Is a “Stradegy” when you have a plan and it goes Horribly wrong?🧐
Hangman is young Maverick. He even flew that course like Maverick would in his younger days! 😂I read some people say Hangman is the new Iceman but wrong - he is Maverick. Iceman was never just ego-driven and reckless, and too individualistic, Maverick was. This was literally the conflict between Ice and Maverick at first: both were very talented and competitive, but Iceman was more of a team player and responsible, and Maverick wasn't, just as Hangman now isn't. Hangman, just like Maverick once, is the most talented, with a big ego, hot, individualistic, doing his own thing, but at the same time, deep inside, a good guy with a sense of humor, and a great patriot, ready to do everything for the team, he just chose a more twisted, unorthodox way to get there.
Just like Maverick, Hangman has a habit of leaving his wingman and going solo, and just like Maverick, Hangman saves the day at the end of the movie, because although he was not the most responsible pilot of the group, he was, in fact, the most unorthodox and talented, the fastest, that's why Mav chose him to be the 'secret weapon' in case of the emergency, and he was right! it's literally in the movie. Hangman is the new, young, modern Maverick. And he should be the focus of the Top Gun 3, I want to know more about Hangman.
Don't tell me, tell it to his family.
Goddamn!.
yeah, after what happened to his CAG goose
I mean, that's not how training for a mission goes...
The point is to find out what went wrong and what to do next time to fix it, not just shaming people.
@@sergarlantyrell7847he is giving them incentive to fix it now so there is nothing to fix later.
This is an incredibly well written movie...I didnt think I would like it as well as the first one but this movie have some scenes that takes a back seat to none...
Well written from where?
Well written? The main plot of this film was to contrive a situation where they could do a star wars trench run...
They also apparently don't know what the USP of 5th gen fighters is... Stealth.
And then they jumped the shark at the end with that ridiculous entirely CGI F-14 sequence.
This is how you show the importance of family
Not like fast furious
Exactly😂
Good point
LoL Fast Furious would even destroy a Alien mother ship with the help of family 🤣👌
Van diesel stealing a fighter jet next movie for sure
don't underestimate fast furious, they can triple barrel roll their car without seatbelt
My older brother, who was an Airman on a carrier who had/has quite a few pilot buddies, was watching this with us the other day. He says, “why would they have selected so many? I feel like they would’ve just chosen the 6 and trained them for the mission.” In reality he’s probably right but hey that’s Hollywood for ya…😂
Probably true that they would have selected the primaries beforehand, but redundancy is also necessary. Backups in case of a mishap, or one of the primaries not being able to fly the mission for whatever reason (illness, injury, etc).
Of course... that's the least of the implausible parts of this entire mission plan. I mean, awesome movie is gonna awesome, but operationally? Someone's being retired over all this.
Probably to have alternates in case of any number of things... pilot catches COVID, gets hit by a car, etc... that would be my assumption anyway.
This was a fun movie that only worked if you turned your brain off. Like why they couldn't simply send in inertial guided cruise missiles. Or why they couldn't fly latest gen fighters in the canyon. It was all absurd. And fun. But definitely absurd.
@@tinetannies4637 they needed to explain the use of 2 seat aircraft. That way they can actually have the actors in the actual planes this time.
@@TheSjuris Now THAT makes sense. The F-35 and F-22 are both single-seat aircraft. So it was a cinematic tool, just as they used aircraft in the first place instead of cruise missiles. Thanks for the answer!
Seriously Hangman, “they couldn’t keep up”, I bet he’d have no problem saying that at their funerals
Walk towards their families
"They couldn't keep up"
Refuses to elaborate
Leaves
He’d get a swift kick in the ass for damn sure
Hangman has a point if they can’t keep up they shouldn’t go, hangman’s life is on the line as well. They need the best out there it’s time to start cutting the weak links! A harsh reality but it was proven when rooster went instead of hangman, rooster nearly got himself killed. Hangman wouldn’t have been in that position
@@quintbakerjr2786 But Hangman's entire attitude in training was that only he mattered. He never showed any value and respect for his wingmen. That's why he got made a reserve player.
@@danielhaire6677
But he was the best man for the job!!! His attitude was cocky and confident, plenty of people have that and it isn’t always a bad thing. Rooster could have used some of that, but maverick showed to much favoritism and he put the other pilots lives at risk because of a personal matter. I think that’s way more disrespectful in my opinion it’s like rooster is the only pilot that mattered to him.
Seeing OG Topgun clips at the end is giving such a sense of nostalgia and wholesomeness.
This reminds me of the Werewolf mission in Ace Combat 7. The time limit which compels you to go faster plus the narrow passage way made my hands sweaty during those tight maneuvers. And that's just in the game.
These people (assuming these a real scenarios) are going to do it live and with the full force of the G's while doing tight maneuvers~
I finally beat that mission today. Kicked my ass😂😂😂
@@Armando316 Nice!
This was the comment I was looking for! I failed that mission so many times, felt great once I nailed it.
Canyon missions have been a staple in ace combat games
Even ac2 has it, even ac6 has it, even infinity had one iirc, and even ac7 has one.
Except we had spot lights hahaha
their plan is basically the plot of Star Wars. that said, I love this move.
No offence but why do you love it?
@@theomega616 Because over Cassian Andor's never say die attitude and plucky Mexican Charisma.
This mission looks similar to Ace Combat 7 Cape Rainy Assault. WInding through a canyon undetected.
Staying down from enemy SAM sites is like Faceless Soldier though and the Dogfight in the Canyon feels like Ghost of Razgriz where you are forced to fight below
and the laser guided bombing is the Mission 13 bunker buster
but seriously, the scenario is IRL Death Star with Ace Combat situation
My favorite mission!!
They ALL stem from a little Manga, later adapted into multiple animes, called "Area 88."
Haha indeed! Have near to zero interest to fighters jet, saw this movie twice and finally bought AC7, and got absolute goosebumps when doing mission 13. What an experience.
This gives me Ace Combat flahsbacks...
Not even a computer could do that!
You'll have to use the Force.
Don't tell me tell it to his family Maverick knows how that feels
2:11 mav has learned from
His mistakes
Tom Cruse is truly the last Hollywood Superstar
He simply Rocks!!
Thats why drones are came into picture.
This scene shows why the tip-of-spear military is a calling, not just a paycheck.
I can't begin to imagine the number of grieving families out there that lost their son or daughter in military combat, and the reason they were given sounds completely avoidable if given better training.
the enemy gets a vote.
It's not a difficult mission Mav, it's mission impossible..
"It'll be just like Beggar's Canyon back home."
My favorite scene
Kinda want to see a Rogue Squadron movie now, but with cockpit shots like in this movie.
I suspect Hangman and Rooster will take lead in future releases.
I didn’t really like rooster.
Imagine saying to your wingman's family the reason he is dead "he couldn't keep up haha"
You would be found murdered, with your body parts covering the neighborhood
I get what they were going for with Hangman, but they went a little heavy handed on him. Maverick was a hot shot in the first top gun. But I never got the feeling he just flat out didn't care about his fellow man. Hangman acts like their lives literally have no meaning. How the fuck did he make it through Top Gun?
"Time is your greatest Enemy"!
This entire plan hinges on the idea that they need to go at breakneck speed through the canyon because they will be detected early and need to get out before intercepts can be launched. Yet on the actual day of the attack the airbase is neutralized by a salvo of cruise missiles, and they aren't detected until those cruise missiles hit the airbase. It would have been better to fly the canyon at a slow, safe speed, avoiding detection, and have the tomahawks arrive in time to strike the airbase simultaneously with their assault on the target. But I guess in reality a coordinated strike like that is difficult to pull off. Maybe Maverick knows from experience that in reality the tomahawks are going to arrive early and reveal them, and any patrolling fighters will be alerted to their position. If that's the case then speeding through the canyon is the correct plan.
They could have fired a second round of tomahawks at the surface-to-air missile silos as well, which would have made the mission far safer.
IRL, this is a USAF mission, not USN. I am quite sure that the world's largest air force can hit any target it wants, anywhere it wants, anytime that it wants.
@@roberthudson1959Dont think about it too hard. There are a million ways this mission could have been done without so much drama (B2, Combat Air Support to the Strike Package anyone?). Watching this, you'd think the entire US military only had 5 F/A-18s available.
They probably assumed that there would be visual observers that would spot them and decided to take out the airbase quickly to minimize the chances of a full response
The chance of getting throught there unspotted is likely 0. So they needed to be fast to begin with. Keep low against the sams and keep fast to finish the mission before the enemy Bandits return. It´s okay to assume that the moment they go into the canyon they will be spotted by ground units.
As to how the actual mission goes, nobody can say, they wire missiles as precaution, will that be enough ? who knows , it´s just another method of leveling the odds. Ideally that strike alone could have killed any enemy adversery, e.g. if their pilots had not started yet. But you cant tell for sure. Considering they might have been spotted from the start it makes perfect sense to start with an airstrike
This movie is amazing and the mission to destroy nuclear weapons has a cool Star Wars vibe
The only thing I feltl like the movie was missing was Hangman's "sombering" moment. The moment he he realized he needed to change or he was going to outlive all of his wingmen.
tbh hangmans flying skills are damn good
😔😔Time to watch the movie again.
0:48 SU-57 printed on top right.
Best movie ever
United we stand
115
Ready
The big problem with this movie is we have F-22. We are the 5th generation fighter
Mission would go the same
660 knots is 759.5 MPH. Sound is 767.3 ... That is flying below 100 ft. The wing span of an F18 is 45 ft. That means they have to be half of that below 100 ft. or flying at 77.5 ft above the surface at Mach 1.
Time & Information is your enemy. Mission. Task. Standards.
OMG why is this so cool ?
Tom Cruise: “I’m beyond your apologies” 😂
Hangman was consistently abrasive, and right more often than the other trainees.
Kinda like Maverick from the first movie.
Feels like Ace Combat 7 operation Werewolf but during day and without spotlights.
When you do a turn, it's not the force of "gravity" that causes you to feel heavy, it's your mass being moved in a different direction; it's your change in momentum that causes you to be heavy. Besides, electrostatics is a much better and testable explanation for why things fall to the ground rather than "gravity."
This is the moment the pilots realized and understand why they were choose for this mission, in the beginning, it was supposed to be a mission with no return
Looking good Hangman.
He forgot to end the briefing with "May the force be with you".
Ace Combat players could do the run through the canyon no problem.
2:45 RKO! FROM OUTTA NOWHERE!!
Of All the Nicknames He go's By Hangman Why Bladewing Or The Shooting ⭐️
I wouldve written it slightly different. When approaching the canyon there is a breif window where radar might have spotted you. At that you are to assume you were spotted and enemy fighters are preparing for take off. Giving the 2:30 time limit.
Ngl I love Hangman😂, he's so cool. But still Mav is the best.
Upload Maverick vs the students scene please
What's the outro music?
These new recruits today can't even come close to accomplishing this in the slightest.
Lucky to get the plane off the runway.
These arent exactly recruits, they are all proven best of their class aviators. This is more a special ops mission with the need for extra skills.
@@mikeserds2333 agreed, but how many are left in service?
thats why we rely on Hollywood to get the tough missions done!
I want mission complete scene
Looks like Mission Impossible but with fighter jets of course
Oh, man, i like thyme!
What’s the soundtrack at 3:08
I realize this is a movie.. but considering the importance of said mission.. wouldnt a b-2 and a couple raptors make things a bunch easier?
You will fly what i like to call the deathstar protocol
The trench reminds me of days of thunder track 🤔🧐 could it be this is an Easter egg for days of thunder movie ....
Shades of 633 Squadron, a 1964 British movie. Rule Britannia.
In reality the navy would never do this mission. This would be a piece of cake for an f22
100 feet 'ceiling' - 660knots airspeed (760MPH), through a rock lined twisting cannon, @6Gs while struggling to not pass out- then; destroy a target; then escape the SAMs AND the other enemy aircraft that shows up after. These people aren't even human...
IMAX 4K ? biggest lie... anyway i enjoyed the video a lot
I am wondering how the fly simulator can constantly create multi-g load to the pilot's body.
They're flying real planes. The simulation is just nav computer data giving them a course they have to stick to.
I just realized this movie was a remake of the Star Wars ending taking out the Death Star.
Bob raises his hand isn’t this the same plot scene from Star Wars?
Also don’t we have satellite guided gps trackers that are immune to jamming we can launch a 2000 pound missile with penetrator from a b52 way outside of their air space?
GOAT US Air Force
they are not in this movie
This scene was cribbed from Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators.
I want movie based on hangman, where he will become good man
This was the Mission Impossible part of the movie.
Realistically they needed Luke and his x Wing
yeah probably should have brought in the drone guy for this mission
is the subs Mandoran?
He should have hired his mission impossible team... Done.
in real the mission would be for the air-force by a big margin. the b2 with the MOAP or f117 LGB's could do it on their own . the f16 or f22 would be better to fly in like the movie
Yeah but then there wouldn’t be a movie
It's a top gun show, and top gun is a United States navy program. The United States navy has no access to all the aircraft you mentioned.
@@bluenicholasbf2142 which is why it would be s mission for the air force
@@anxietyplata1691 Then don't watch the movie and pretend the Air Force did it?
@@selderane We're just pointing out what would actually happen in real life, not that the movie should've been done that way
Guys like hangman would have been grounded for not being a team player and for his arrogance
Ace Combat Zero final Mission be like.
Why does marvick has not used F 35 and F 22 as an escord to F 18 since , I think Maximum speed of F 35 and F 22 is all most or slightly more than F 18 without afterburners.
they are ugly airplanes. not suitable for the coolness of maverick.
what good is a air-superiority fighter when the enemy has the sam defense? there was nothing for them to shoot at on the way in.
One of the fans told me it's because F-22 is the Air Force aircraft while F-35 is a single-seat fighter...
F-22 is Air Force, and the F-35 can't stay out of maintenance. We had F-35s when I was at Luke AFB AZ, but the pilots preferred the F-16s. The F-16s might have been over 40 years old, but they were reliable. 35s kept having issues.
Well the movie would be over In 10 minutes
loaded with bombs and targeting pods at low altitude i dont think the f18 could maintain 660 knots, maybe in full afterburner but then you dont have enough fuel . isn't that like .9 mach ?
No it isn't unless you are playing games. Isn't mine. What will be ,will be and if others don't like that then that's too bad
Bro please me how to upload clip without copyright claim...please bro.
Star Wars Trench run with F18;s
We’re all the drones and high altitude bomber planes not available for this scenario? 😂
Unless Father time is your father
Multiple dementions daily
Question: which is the adversary country in the movie according to you?
My best guess is North Korea.
Iran? Since the other country that operates an F-14 Tomcat in this world other than US is Iran
@@davidboh6030 Iran was my first guess, but the movie climate does not seems to match their climate. Especially, the snowy terrain...
And from the options left that do not have already nuclear weapons, the NK was the first in the list with plenty of mountains on their soil.
Yeah, the ownership of F-14 sounds strange for them, but they could easily bought them from ally country.
Or maybe I'm wrong...
@@Queenbg1their shit barely flies and they don't have F14s
"Uh, excuse me Captain, but why not have the Cruise missiles also take out the Sam sites?"
Writer: So the movie can happen.
Also Writer: Sir, I need you to get all the way off my back on this one.
This movie was a public message to Three Different Countries about at least 2 different things!!!!!!!