MAC Operational Briefcase (the H&K We Have at Home)
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- Note: This video was proactively deleted to avoid a channel strike when CZcams went nuts over suppressors. I am reposting it today since they have rolled back those policy changes.
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If a swanky outfit like H&K can make an “Operational Briefcase” with a submachine gun hidden inside it, then you can bet Military Armament Corporation is going to do the same! MAC made these briefcases for both the M10 and M11 submachine guns, and made a shortened suppressor for the M10 pattern guns to fit. They actually have a distinct advantage over the H&K type by fitting a gun with suppressor - but a distinct disadvantage in the exposed trigger bar on the bottom of the case, with no safety device of any kind.
Note: Possession of the briefcase with a semiauto MAC-type pistol that fits it is potentially seen as constructive possession of an AOW. A machine gun can be legally fitted in the case, but a semiauto pistol in it is considered a disguised weapon, and thus requires registration as an AOW.
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That trigger without a safety and easily bumped on anything is insane, it would be like Mr. Bean walking around accidentally shooting everyone and everything as a secret agent.
People are safety conscious today, but back then they'd merely chuckle or even make a clucking noise if you dared mention it.
That would be Johnny English ;-)
no risk- no fun.
Reminds me of True Lies, where Jamie Lee Curtis drops an Uzi and it bounces down the stairs shooting all the bad guys.
Kind of like that feature on phasers that let them explode.
The hole by the trigger lever is to stick a finger in to seat the magazine. You have the mag in the gun, but not seated. That is the safety. Was looking at one for sale a few years ago, and the owner explained that to me.
Phew!
It makes a certain amount of sense - but there must have been a better way.
That will work.. until you bump the trigger and need to open the case to recock the bolt back again before continuing your covert armed walk
That works until you set this thing down on something that can seat the mag without you noticing.
This should be at the top and pinned.
The words "Front Toward Enemy" definitely needs to be embossed on the shooty side of this briefcase.
"Here, take my card" takes a whole new meaning
Should come with a properly mounted Claymore for aiming...
A little white-out arrow on the handle should be enough
@@ibubezi7685 I was thinking the same thing with the "Front Toward Enemy" comment!!!
Some of you aren't very bright...The whole point of a case like this is...Oh, never mind...
It boggles the mind that the engineer who built the remote setup (or really ANY engineer involved) couldn’t improve the standard trigger system.
It also boggles my mind that an engineer would think the remote would work fine. As soon as he said they set it down and stepped back, I knew the recoil was going to point the gun at them one way or another. Yikes!
Could still be handy, like one of the turrets from portal. Just leave it behind with a motion detector for someone snooping through your hotel while your out spying on Dr.No
Couldn't, or couldn't be bothered to?
Was thinking this could have been a solution. Instead of having a button on the handle with linkages to the trigger a remote control button could be placed on the handle that would remote trigger the gun.
"Works on my machine" -engineers
I love that the remote test didn't involve them securing the briefcase to the table in any way
That's a really, really, good point! I didn't think of that, but then I'm not an engineer.
Right? Lol I could instantly see where that was going amazing the engineer didn't think of that or anyone else that was there lol you know the saying for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction lol even a .380 has recoil lol
Or even just only loaded with 5 rounds or something
"Trust me, I am an engineer!"
@@dinsdalemontypiranha4349 those are things you think about...if you are NOT an engineer.:)
Funny story: Back around 1980 I shared an apt with a fellow I worked with. We started joking that the morose trench coated individual that lived downstairs was a CIA assassin. One day I mistakenly received some of his mail; it was a brochure from a gun dealer that sold obscure firearms including this MAC-10 suitcase gun. Our joke lost its humor...
I am german and Brittas boyfriend. In early 90s, a large number of german descendant russians came to Germany, some with russian wifes or husbands. So a russian, married with a woman of german ancestry worked for some time in the same company. A coworker, growed up in communist East Germany, suspected , this man had a background of russian Security forces.
@@brittakriep2938 oh yes, I remember they were referred to as "Volga Germans". But, not in a pejorative sense, but their forebears were the Germans that "Catherine the Great" had migrate to western Russia for farmland.
Government agents, foreign and domestic, friends and enemies of the u.s. do not buy their weapons from regular old licensed gun dealers that send you shit in the mail.
@@wintonhudelson2252 : Some germans from Württemberg went arround 1820 also to Russia , because there was in this years a food/ hunger Problem, and württembergian king Wilhelm l was married with a russian princess. I was rather surprised, that one of this Russia Germans still spoke with clearly hearable swabian dialect, i am swabian too.
Nah he was just a weirdo; if he was CIA he would’ve been receiving crack to push to impoverished communities
I knew a guy back in '80 that had one of these and an M-16. He also had a bad ass flat bottom and was an ordained minister to boot. Nicest guy you'd ever know albeit a walking enigma.
driving down the road in a neighborhood with your Briefcase MAC 10 with garage door solenoid attached sitting in your back seat... some passerby goes to open their garage door and you get 20 rounds of 9mm right into your kidneys. GENIUS!
Back when that test happened garage door remotes were not very secure. Just for laughs we would drive thru the neighborhood hitting the remote and usually more than one door would open!
That's exactly what I was thinking. Just because you CAN do it, doesn't mean you SHOULD.
Giving them the benefit of the doubt, it was probably more of a proof of concept than anything.
@@craighansen7594 Hi, used to do something similar when PIR lights first became popular, wander through married quarters and light up the street, nobody ever set the range or dwell properly, very few do it now!
Well, guy could spend a year trying to develop secure way of activating gun remotely, just to realize, that briefcases aren't stable enough.
That story about the engineer and the remote: so a gun engineer (1) forgot about recoil, and (2) didn't test it with just one round in a mag first.
Even then, this is why you use racks for guns... or in this case for briefcases when you test them. A few pieces of flat wood would have been all it needed to keep the briefcase stable.
Love the Mack Bolan reference!!! I'm just 40 years old but read the entire original run by Don Pendleton before I was 30. I miss Mack.
Many years ago when i lived in South Africa I had a MAC-10 in 45 ACP and I had all of the accessories you could get plus two silencers.I will admit it was tremendous fun to shoot.And needless to say my Dillon Progresive Press really worked overtime producing ammo.
You worked for a security company or something?
@@liammeech3702
I spoke to a little old grey haired lady and asked her why she left SA.
She said after the Govt made them remove the electronically controlled minefield around the house and confiscated the belt fed machine gun out of the house...she just didn't feel safe any more....
Different world, different rules.......
@@JohnSmith-yv6eq I had heard before that Saffi gun-laws where more lax.. but damn lol
@@JohnSmith-yv6eq I love the idea of an electronically controlled mine field.
Phone goes ding
"Hang on I have to check my mine field app"
If it is a stray cat or the neighbors young kids you don't hit detonate.
If it is a marauding band of thieves you click detonate.
April 2019. It's a golden oldie!
I do kinda miss the auction house videos though.
Ah yes, it is a olden goldie.
I miss them too.
What happened to the auction house videos?
4:24 that Mack Boland vs James Bond reference point is masterful! Thank you for this fun video, Ian!
☺
Thanks Be to Ian for reviewing one of rarest and the coolest accessory for my favorite SMG I have ever seen.
I once saw a very similar thing circa 1982 with a briefcase and an Uzi. The sides of the case would fall away and the handle remained attached to the top of the sub gun. It was in possession of a state trooper that part of the governors security detail.
Y'know while watching this it suddenly strikes me that a good gun for an operational briefcase might be an FNP-90. Large magazine and the dimensions are just about right for a briefcase to fit around it.
Downward ejection too so they could just attach a brass catcher bag to the bottom and it wouldn’t interfere with the ejection/extraction process
I feel like having bodyguards with this gun would make you much, much less safe
Why would a bodyguard need that?
@@tomhenry897 Yes, but they didn't fire from within the briefcase... The case was essentially a camouflaged holster.
It's for protecting the President...
...of the East Arkansas Crack Dealers Association.
@@pinkyellowblue007 Because then he doesn't look like a bodyguard.
@@aaronleverton4221 There's no need to hide a bodyguard.
I have talked with the surviving Leatherwood who says that during their time of manufacturing in the MAC-10's they had perfected the trigger and safety mechanism for the briefcase. 🤠👍
Hey, Ian. I'm British and as you probably already know, my country has just formed a much stronger military alliance with Japan than we have ever had before. I am mentioning this, because recently (within the last 5 or so years) Japan has adopted a new standard-issue rifle for their military - the "Howa Type 20". I don't know how easy it would be for you to obtain one of these rifles, but it would definitely make for a fascinating video if possible!
Keep up the great work man :)
yes we need more insights into modern japanese rifles! I heard they are stupid expensive, mediocre, dont even shoot well but its nice to see a review of them by Ian
@hakeemzahardi9207
I've only used a few Howa rifles but they were all great quality, accurate and very good value for money. That seems to be the general trend of reviews too, so I don't know where you're getting your opinion from.
80's action hero walks into a terrorist meeting
"Time for your briefing!"
Opens fire with his MAC Briefcase
"Looks like you've come down with a bad case of death!"
I want matt berry in this scene
I would love to see a recreation of that remote activated, spinning briefcase test firing. Of course do it in a safe firing range!
Would suggest testing in a blasting pit instead. Firing ranges are usually not designed for 360° shooting, but just one direction!
I think I saw it in a movie once.
"Careful, careful! That's death blossom, a weapon of last resort."
Well, we have MP5 briefcase suit, Ares FMG disguised as portable radio, Tommy Gun in Violin case, Welrod pistol with Silencer as main weapon and now this Murica Mac10.
What a wonderful place to be alive!
So... does this count as a conceal carry?
Good question
thanks for the profile pic, there was a distinct lack of depression in my day today, but now that has been fixed.
More like conceal carry-on
That pfp…. I have ptsd from that :(
Off body carry?
Great repost! Thanks for a great Friday day-starter. Your scoreboard was a nice touch. The MAC* briefcase gun is rather like carrying a grenade with the pin pulled...
I think folks would pay to see video of that runaway testfire!
The trigger mechanism is just scary.
Edit: there is a hole next to it on the bottom. I suspect that there were some safety thingie. Or I hope at least.
So if you put the botton side down, it could kill you. And if you put the left/right face down, if could rotate and kill you. Putting the front face up is just asking for a bullet in the face while looking down on it. And you would not want to put the top face down, because everyone will see the trigger. So it is pretty much a miserable thing to carry around.
It's also worth noting there's no visual and mechanical clue on top to clearly register its direction. No surprise the Wayne incident happened.
I think there was a later version with the trigger in the suitcase handle.
According to another commenter that hole is to put your finger in to seat the magazine, so when walking around normally the magazine is out and you only load the gun when ready to fire. So it’s not quite as ridiculously unsafe as it seems, though still not a good design. The same people who walk around with their handguns pre-chambered would absolutely just seat the magazine ahead of time to decrease the number of steps before being able to fire.
@@magnuskallas But you can always check business card. Just look right into the muzzle of a loaded machine gu......
The trigger can be made relatively safe if you add a cover to the slot such the trigger can't move unless the cover is removed, but the position of the external trigger and that it needs to be pushed forward and not pulled back to fire might lead users to end up pointing the guns at themselves attempting to fire.
Please make more videos just like this! The score card comparison is amazing!
It is so much fun!
I was wondering where this video went. That remote controlled trigger story is golden.
When I heard about a RC version of this, I was reminded of the laptop gun from the videogame Perfect Dark from 2000 that could transform into a standing century gun with a proximity -activated gatling gun!
thanks for the reminder of a super fun game from my youth!
@@MrChevelle83 You're welcome, I loved that game too.
007 Nightfire had a similar weapon, but it was a briefcase.
@@FirstnameLastname-xq4rp Yes, I remember that. Nightfire and the first Splinter Cell were my favourite GameCube games.
Perfect Dark
Perfect game
Thanks for your work. You seem like a genuinely good man, it's greatly appreciated.
The gentle snark in this episode was just joyous.
What I love most about
the Ingram Mac-10...
is that it's small... real 'petite'.
Easily concealable.
Easily transportable.
As we shall soon see...
bigger is not necessarily better.
I would go with bigger, in this case...
I am amused to hear a Mack Bolan reference. They're not 'GOOD' books, but they're like the literary equivalent of B action movies.
Though when the writers don't know gun things, it hurts my brain. [Highlights to a mentioned 30-round banana clip for a P90 and suggesting the Five-Seven had the same power as a 5.56 round in a more compact package.]
Yeah, CZcams's laws are really confusing and infuriating at times.
Still, a briefcase gun is still a lovely thing to know about. Mostly for the fact that Tommy Guns in violin cases were a thing and actually pretty pleasing to look at in the case.
Right? You can't look at guns because it's too violent. But hateful rethoric from actual fascists is ok. Because thst has totally never caused violence but being curious about guns has. Totally real. Tottaly how that works.
@@kapitan762x54R I'm really curious who you'd qualify as "actual fascist", because no, CZcams is strict with everything these days
@@KaoticReach1999 Matt Walsh. He even describes himself as a fascist, for some reason people care how fascists self identify. But he's not the only one spreading hateful content. It makes youtube money so they don't care.
@@kapitan762x54R What hateful content? Also never watched him, seems to be pretty milktoast and uninteresting
CZcams won't tell what the actual rules are, lest sneaky guntubers create videos specifically to get around them.
I don't think there's anything more scarier than a spinning mac on the loose spitting bullets in every direction
The ding and buzzer sound effects are awesome.
Both this and the HK one still make me think of the operational briefcases that were shown in the original Ghost in the Shell movie. Instead of shooting with the gun still inside the briefcase, when the button on the handle was pressed the body of the briefcase dropped way and the user could grab and use the submachinegun inside. So less for super sneaky, discretion at all times and more for discretion carrying the gun and quickly deploying it.
The addition on shoulder strap rings, where the one at rear has a bar attachment to charge the bolt without opening case would make it safer, then carry with mag seated and bolt closed.
the MAC trigger PLACEMENT is cool because you could hold it under your arm and fire it in both hands for better control...The lack of safety is insane
a remote control briefcase submachine gun made with a garage door opener that almost killed everyone on the testing range is the most MAC thing ever.
Your presentation of all of the firearms is impeccable, the historical value is priceless, the content is neither offensive, vulgar, or glorified in any way beyond the historical value of the information you've conveyed. The bonus of demonstrating them in a controlled range environment only adds to the value of your work as a legitimate firearms historian and expert. Is there any way to get CZcams off your back?
two excellent stories :
1- John Wayne
and
2- the guy who put a garage door remote on the gun
🤣🤣 it's a self_destroying device .
The suppressor is a nice addition, that way nobody will be disturbed when you accidentally shoot someone.
Reposting and the mention that it was coming up for auction in April really had me thinking it was a new video. The 2019 part even went right over my head.
'There are some significant differences' is a line I shall be stealing. The firing mechanism is quite a long way towards the northern end of the bold spectrum. Thank you Ian.
Imagine stopping to get coffee or a news paper and you put the case down slightly too hard or you snag something and it goes off.
So the spinning, firing operational briefcase......brown trousers all round on that day. I suspect that the engineer who came up with that bright idea was never allowed to forget it.
If you were one of the unfortunate bystanders would you ever let him forget?
@Larry Patty, I would feel obliged to remind him at least twice daily for eternity. Lol.
Wonder if he was fired or just given a stern talking to. Anyway, it reminded me of those fireworks that spin around. In this case, it would stop spinning after maybe 90 degrees.
@@larrypatty8333 The only thing is that they apparently saw the contraception too, probably did not say anything and chose to stay behind the obvious Deathtron 5000.
I saw documentary on SAS ops in the UK that said they'd used the mac10 for hard stops on terrorist cars. The high RoF was handy for shredding drivers at point blank range without worrying about deviation due to windscreens etc.
This video shouldn’t be as funny as it but I love it. The subtle humor is great!
"Mom, I want an H&K Operational Briefcase."
"Son, we have an Operational Briefcase at home"
The Operational Briefcase at home:
Thank you Ian for re-uploading this video.
Vaguely terrifying?
Couldn't they have made pants with a grenade zipper or Tupperware landmines or something? This is insane.
10/10 for the title and the humor in this one. MAC is the Florida Man of gun companies.
I think I first saw the MAC briefcase on that cool 80s gun demonstration video "Deadly Weapons". Love that video
Glad to hear the changes were reverted, Ian. Keep up the good work!
I remember Mack Bolan. He wrote "Bang a Gong (Get it on)".
Put one of those Macs in the hands of the Keystone Cops and you've got a mass murder event.
Loved this video. 😂
That briefcase sounds like a Good Idea Fairy product, especially with the garage door opener remote. Aiming was point and pray? Today, something like that could benefit from an aiming laser built into the case (or is that another Good Idea Fairy product?).
Ian, if that were yours, I'd suggest that you take it to a Back Up Gun match.
One benefit of the operational briefcase is that no spent shell casings would be left behind as long as the case remained closed.
This thing is intended for an offensive action (assasinations and stuff) and the HK briefcase is intended for defence situations.
The briefcase that almost killed John Wayne... can't get over that trigger -- and the other (!) "slightly horrifying" anecdote.
McQ
I really love when cool stuff like this come with a cool anecdotes too.
reminds me with a scene in Desperado movie where's the good guy shooting the baddies with mystery gun concealed in a guitar case
I know someone who owned one of these. He said the hole in the bottom is to engage the magazine for when you're ready to fire.
I like the touch of putting a business card on the business end of the briefcase..
The spinning suitcase of death could be seen as a feature, and not a bug ...in some applications
Ian, and the editing, are both on point in this one! Hilarious! Thanks for the morning laugh!
Great video, I loved the comparison.
"spin in a circle"
This reminds about the myth (supposedly) about older UZIs used as a sort of improvised anti-personnle grenades. Story goes like this: older UZI with some wear can fire on it's own, if dropped hard on a ground, so to clear a bunker Israelis simply dropped in there a cocked and loaded older UZI, which then proceeds to do a mag dump, while spinning around due to recoil and sending bullets ricocheting more than once from concrete walls.
I suspect that's apocryphal, I've heard the same story but it was Polish troops in WW2 doing it with Stens.
Someone's been watching a few too many action movies.
There is a story about deputy sheriff who disliked the squeeze safety on his 1911 and defeated it with friction tape. When attending meetings at headquarters the firearms were not brought into the meeting but rather hung on pegs through the trigger guard on a board outside the room. He made the mistake of placing it on the peg while it was cocked resulting in a .45 cal. pinwheel.
@@Tunkkis Nah, that's a tale from real IDF soldier over the Web on a blog about weapons, but even he said that seem to be a myth invented decades ago, and when a story is told and retold (every time enriched in more details, of course, to make it fancier) for a long time and is relatively widely known, it becomes ingrained in culture and seldom questioned.
Tested that at the Bundeswehr. Works like a charm.
Thanks for those Mac VS H&K comparison slides(?) Ian. Good laughs were had.
I see a huge merch possibility for FW Store: the tactical briefcase or back pack that can shoot a 9mm submachine gun. With the experience that You have now it will be easy to design good trigger and some laser pointer or a camera with a display to shoot with good aim and behind a cover. Go for it!
Perhaps the most dangerous weapon ever made.
April 2019? Very cool video. Actually glad to know there are videos in the vault ready to go 🤠.
The gun has "Mack "The Executioner" Bolan" energy on an astronomical scale. It exudes a plume of late era pulp vibe visible from space.
Mad props for the Mack Bolan reference. I’m usually the only fan in the room!
A weapon and case more dangerous to the operator and allies than to adversaries. Great product
Good to see this cool little video back up.
Just re-watching as Forgotten Weapons has such high replay value
Oh good lord, that trigger, what were they thinking?
"Where should we conceal the death switch, boss?"
"Eh, just make it a big ol' lever poking straight out the bottom, it'll be fine."
Loved the Mack Bolan reference, I read those pulps when I was a kid.
Imagine being left handed, pulling up the briefcase while entering the metro, accidentally triggering the trigger with your supporting right hand.
The newspapers.
Ah luggage.
From back when they hadn't realised to put wheels on everything.
Oh, and machine pistols.
That is the luggage you need to worry about. It's the luggage with feet, an attitude and a voracious appetite. At least with the one developed by Sir Terry Pratchett, you could book it on a 1-way flight and hope it remains lost.
A briefcase is not luggage. A businessman who carried a wheeled briefcase is one who would not keep many clients.
If it has wheels, it should be a cased M60 or something, haha.
@@gunsofthephoenix6101 I prefer putting my M60 in the trunk of a 1977 Cadillac Sedan DeVille, activated by a garage door opener.
To think the duke almost bought it with the MAC10 the very same gun he used in MacQ, is crazy, how come we can’t have someone like the duke nowadays we could definitely do with one!.
The amount of knowledge this man has is insane
"Bees! Bees in the car! Bees everywhere! God, they're huge! They're ripping my flesh off! Run away, your firearms are useless against them!" ~ Thomas R. "Tommy" Callahan III ~
“Holy schnikeys, it worked”
The story of the briefcase flopping over and rotating around is definitely Wile E. Coyote territory. You wanted to shoot the Roadrunner but you wind up shooting yourself.
I thought the only example of one of these was in the ATF vault, glad to see there's one in private hands :)
Its Mac. You can pretty much guarantee they sold as many of these as they possibly could to everybody they could without ending up in prison first. It's a near certainty that there is far more than one in private hands.
A MAC-10/11 is not difficult to find if you know the right circles.
Whoooah, I was telling my dad about this thing yesterday and you reupload the video less than 12 hours later! Freaky.
May all the original comments to this video rest in peace.
Full points for the Mack Bolan reference. Love it.
Imagine seeing someone carrying a briefcase and very careful setting it down and picking it up and looking to see what direction their business card is facing
"Vaguely terrifying, but also extremely cool." Like so many of the more interesting things in life.
Mack Bolan is a name I haven't heard in a long time. Would make for some awesome movies.
You can tell Ian had a lot of fun making this video
MAC needed adult supervision.
MAC: (Nearly shoots John Wayne) Would you like to invest?
John Wayne: Not Hardly Pilgrim
Cant believe they didn't clamp it down on the bench
They could have maybe designed a folding trigger at the bottom that would lock in place to serve as kind of safety. Having a way to make ready with the brief case closed would have been better too.
It annoys me that YT are such, how do I out this? Ma sê poese? But thanks for taking the time to put it up again.
What a good excuse to re-re-re-watch it
Since I can't purchase this case I shall take a trip to Goodwill and purchase an old briefcase and make MAC Op Briefcase at home.
Fun fact : The engineer who hooked up the garage door opener to the gun was named Albert Heisenberg
When the Snipes movie "Blade" came out, I thought his mac 11s looked super awesome. I don't know what that piece they added to the front of them was, but a mac 10 with the same modification would just be cool as hell.