Did I cheat at this 20 piece jigsaw puzzle? (it's a tricky one)
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What do you think of this puzzle? Do you have any other strategies you would have used?
Five
I was flummoxed for a strategy until you put them outside of the frame, then I thought approaching it in layers where instead of connecting the piece, you move it ever so slightly so it sits atop its connecting piece so that some pieces are on the table and some are stacked one layer above. This would allow you to see piece shapes more easily to adjust and move them. F5ve out of 5ive
Five.
I don't think I would use a different strategy, but I do think it would be fun to have off to family members and watch them try.
He isunique and very interesting
Yes. A potential strategy is to make a block of pieces ten pieces long and two or three pieces wide. It doesn't have to be a rectangle. Position that block in about the middle of the puzzle. Move it up/down so that number of empty spaces above and below the block are each multiples of FIVE. (If that can't be done, try a differently shaped block.) Then repeat that process to divide the empty spaces on each side into smaller regions that are also multiples of five. Although this is not guaranteed to work every time, it should help one stumble on a viable solution significantly faster than completely random trial and error.
Karen: this isn't really a puzzle it's a brain teaser in the shape of puzzle
Karen 10 minutes later: flips pieces over and turns it into an actual puzzle
It is definitely not cheating! This isn’t the first wood puzzle ever. If the manufacturer wanted, it could have easily applied a finish to the pieces that didn’t reveal the wood grain.
Exactly my thought!
this isnt cheating at all. its using the tools she had in hand. maybe it wasnt intended, but that just makes it creative problem solving. and shes karen puzzles, creative problem solving is her whole thing lol
Agreed... You use aby information at hand in order to solve a problem. That is true in any problem you face in life!!!!!
i couldn't decide if I think it's cheating or not, I think most people wouldn't use the wood details to their advantage (because "it's not supposed to be part of the puzzle), so that may be the cheating part. All I know is I'm not mad at it at all, I'd do the same thing
I don't blame her at all, but if this is the definition of cheating, she could've just remembered the placement of the pieces when opening the box (as she said, the puzzle was finished inside of it)
Its not cheating, its “Thinking outside the box” 😋
Outside "the Box" gets a new meaning
😅😅 I agree.
Literally!
defintley! it's not cheating
more like outside the wood
The only thing that's cheating is looking at the solution for answers
That's what I think, too. I would've used the woodgrain from the very beginning without ever thinking it would be cheating.
if they didn't want you looking at wood grain they would have put a colour on it or made the pieces out of plastic
And using tools that is not included in the puzzle unless specified
Wood grains show the solution which is basically looking at the solution.
@@ivanazirojevic3544 nah, it's just thinking outside the box. And that's exactly what you need to do with these kinda puzzles. The person who makes this could've easily covered the wood grain if he didn't want people to use that to solve the puzzle. I'm not even suprised if you're meant to do that like that
You used a different equation but you still got the right answer so it’s definitely not cheating! It’s a ✨different perspective✨
Love that metaphor!
Yes! Which is a mark of Karen’s genius (top FIVE percentile???).
There are other strategies, some commented above. BUT, All this talk of what the people who made the puzzle intended is interesting. Karen thought outside the box (pun intended) and found a real world way to do it. That is true genius, which is on another level from strategizing specially.
Finally, I think if it were just laying out in her desk, as she suggested, in the course of “randomly” fitting pieces in, she would have devised a strategy for doing it specially.
As a former math teacher, I endorse the metaphor! Karen would still get five out of a possible five points on a quiz from me for this solution.
That said, as others have noted, the material or finish could have easily been something else. While this may not have been the intended method, the makers definitely at least left it as a Plan B for the puzzle solver.
The journey from Karen trying to justify her strategy to deciding she's just fully cheating was actually the most amusing part of watching this puzzle get solved. You did great!
You deserve a high "five" for figuring out an easier way to do the puzzle.
It’s a brain teaser. Outsmarting a brain teaser is all part of it. I’m imagining each 5 piece section made from a different color of lexan. Not that would be hard. But in any material not my kind of puzzle. Kudos to you for taking it on, and outsmarting it.
the channel FLEB (hasn't made a video in a couple years) explains his thought process for a similar puzzle, and it's absolutely he's ruthless in that type of puzzle in exploiting every potential hint.
Even if they wanted to still make the puzzle out of wood, they could’ve cut a bunch of the same ones, but mixed and matched the set pieces so the pieces wouldn’t have been from the same piece of wood. Like cut them all, then package it so each set has like one A5, B8, etc etc, but not from the same piece of wood.
That's a great point! I'd just be worried about some pieces getting mixed up and some people getting an unsolvable puzzle 😂
Especially since they thought to cut the border out of a different slab. I seriously think it was intentional
@@KarenPuzzles The puzzle comes fully solved, right? In the packaging. So I don’t think it’d be possible to give somebody an unsolvable one by accident since you have to solve it to package it up.
P.S. love your content, you are the best Karen :)
The only “instructions” are to complete the puzzle. Doesn’t matter how you did it!
i love when karen thinks outside the box, finds a clever solution and puts in practice her knowledge of a different dicipline and immediately goes like "is this cheating" no bestie u outsmarted a brain teaser lmao
Watching you come up with the wood grain strat reminds me of scientists studying crows putting stones in a beaker of water to raise the water level so they could drink. Using your brain and resources around you to solve a puzzle is genius not cheating. You go girl! ✌🏻
This is called a pentomino puzzle. I have a lot of these. There are actually multiple solutions! So, yes you may have “cheated” for one solution, but you can always do it again and solve it in a different way! No need to turn it upside down. Five!
This variation is a little easieir than a traditional pentomino puzzle I guess, since the puzzle piece shape limits which edges can be lined up together, and the fact that there is a distinct front and back for each piece also really limits your options. True pentomino puzzles always give me headaches so maybe I should try this one :P
Omg I'd been looking for those kinds of puzzles and I didn't know they had a specific name! Thanks so much!!
Could you imagine if they remade it out of plastic just so Karen couldn't cheat?
you mean just so karen has less resources. this wasnt cheating at all lol
Cruel! Turning the difficulty up to 11! Much more than five…
totally not cheating lol. work smarter not harder (five)
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@@ivonastrukar4715 ?? Elaborate?
Hey Karen, I just wanted to let you know that I finished my first *five* hundred piece puzzle yesterday and started with a 1000 piece puzzle today (Lombard Street from Ravensburger) just because of you and all the fun :) Greetings from Austria
I just wanted to say thank you for sharing your videos, I have been doing puzzles all my life. I was that teenager that did jigsaw puzzles rather than party or go out. I got busy with life and hadnt done a puzzle in years when i found your channel. After watching you, I couldnt help but get back into puzzling. It has helped me pull out of depression and find a hobby again. It has given me a reason to get up and do my chores so I can have room to puzzle. Because of your videos i recently bought five+ new puzzles that I cant wait to get started on. Thank you for sharing!
It's what the youtube gamers would call "cheesing," which is definitely a distinct thing from cheating :)
That's not cheating, it's being observant and thinking outside the box
I love the visual of the laser cut pieces. Thanks for showcasing this puzzle!
They're so pretty!
It may not have been the way they intended the puzzle to be put together, but I don't know how you could use a strategy with this other than trial and error, which doesn't sound very fun to me.
Not cheating! Definitely thought "I would flip those over" right at the beginning! Good thinking on the wood grain!!
One strategy is to complete the puzzle outside of the box, then place the puzzle inside, completed and piece by piece.
(my theory was correct... Hee hee)
Here's the bottom line; you were given a puzzle, and you used your brain to figure it out.
Well done!!
P.s. no, you did not cheat! :)
I agree
I agree too. 5
If this is a brain teaser, maybe Karen just has the biggest brain of all of us by avoiding the most laborious method
I think this is a legit way to solve this, you outsmarted the puzzle :D
If they didn't want anyone to solve it this way they would have needed to use a diffrent material in my opinion, but like this I think they made your solution a viable possibility!
I love to put puzzles together. I’m glad your videos was suggested to me. It’s so relaxing to watch you put a puzzle together. Thank you to you for showing us your passion for puzzles.
This is 100% resourceful. These kinds of brain teaser puzzles are meant to be scrutinized without ignoring any detail. Totally a valid and clever strategy. Great job!
There were no rules set out, therefore it is not cheating!
There is no such thing as cheating, unless it's a last option.
This is not cheating at all... I don't see it that way.
You're doing awesome, by the way.
It's snowing here. Such great timing to get cozy with a relaxing Karen puzzles video..
I think finding new ways to complete puzzles is quite clever! Also it is more entertaining than doing them in the way one would expect.
Enjoy and stay warm!
High Five!
I love watching you doing these puzzles.
Imagine they used acrylic and ALSO etched the puzzle shapes into both sides, or neither side, and the pieces could be upside down, it would be even harder!!
If you keep just the unique ones (there are 12) and smooth out the edges so they are flat then you have pentominoes and there are lots of solutions to various rectangles but you are right - they can be very difficult to find.
@@richardfarrer5616 I actually bought the smoothed out version online earlier this week. I was wondering if the puzzle edges do limit the number of solutions, and I think they do, because two 'ins' and two 'outs' can't fit together if the pieces have puzzle edges. So actually some positions of the pieces would be possible smoothed and aren't possible in this case. Eg 2:43 she demonstrates attempting to fit two together when the ins and outs don't line up when they would if it were smoothed.
I think making them double sided actually makes it easier to hit a correct solution.
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I am a new subscriber as of like 2 weeks ago and in that time I have completed 4 puzzles two 300 piece 🧩 and two 500 piece 🧩! And I owe it all to you! I stumbled across your content randomly and was like “omg when I was younger I use to LOVE puzzles” so i hit watch and next thing you know I’m getting puzzles to do while your videos play (lol) and LOVING IT. Thank you for bringing these fun, mind exercising, back aching, satisfying creations back into my life...my husband and I are having a blast 💕
WOW i’m so early, loved your videos for so long Karen & I just want to say happy valentine’s day!! you feel like an older sister that i never had at times ❤️❤️❤️
Aww, I'm the younger sister, so I love feeling like an older sister!
me when i take a quiz : "i know i'm cheating, its fine"
I was thinking the same strategy because it’s so much easier to see the cuts. I did not think about using the wood grain. Great job on solving! Five
Oh my goodness I haven't watched it yet but when I saw that Karen put out a new video I just screamed yay out loud and now I paused it so I can get myself all excited to watch it oh my God Karen thank you so much for putting on a new video today for us to watch and enjoy! I'm wicked excited because it's almost 19 minutes long, that is so much goodness to enjoy!
Karen u are so good at Puzzles
Not cheating I bet it was part of the brain teaser part. They did that on purpose. Well done.
citation for "they did that on purpose". Some designers just like how wood looks.
I got this puzzle (used your link 😊) and did it before watching you solve it. I spent 3 hours trying different combinations (even with using the direction of the front-side wood grain) and just could not solve it. I had to do the same thing as you, I flipped it and used the imperfections in the wood as a image to resemble. Would love to hear if anyone could solve it normally.
You were being resourceful for sure! I think you were very clever to come up with the solution!! You get a high "Five" for finishing it so quickly!!
Doing it from the back was smart. Most of the pentaminos I've seen are plastic, so that's not an option. I've never seen puzzle piece shaped ones. A different twist.
When WandaVision is on the line it’s definitely being resourceful!
I love Blockus! High FIVR for finishing that one, Karen!
I was thinking the same thing about Blockus!! I found it a while ago on vacation and it's such a fun game. Anyway, high-five for beating it however you could
I don't think it's cheating. that would be like saying using the silhouette of an image (instead of the image itself) is cheating. 'cheating' is looking up the solution online.
also, a five-block tetris piece is a pentomino and clearing five lines at once is a pentris. The More You Know ~
What fun words!
tetris plus /hj
Looks like this one would have been much easier to just all the pieces over so the piece shapes are easier to see, then work the whole thing outside the frame.
EDIT: 9:21 Oh, I commented too soon!
That's what I thought too. :)
Five.
I definitely wouldn't have thought of flipping them over or using the wood grain to get it done. You did awesome 💯
I love your videos. Keep up the good work❤️
You deserve a high five for the resourceful way you solved that puzzle! I would like to try to solve it without looking at the wood grain. But I think you are right -- if they didn't want puzzlers to use those hints, they should have made it out of some other material.
I do NOT think this is cheating. In the intro when I saw the puzzle I thought of the same thing right away. Maybe it's ment to be done like that? It's still a brain teaser... Think outside the box 😉
FIVE 5⃣
I can’t imagine with all the attention to detail that they weren’t aware that the wood grain could be used to solve the puzzle. Definitely not cheating. Work smart, not hard!
FIVE!!!
I definitely give both the puzzle and the way you solved it a five out of five! Keep up the great work Karen!
Definitely not cheating ..resourcefulness at its finest 🙂👍👏 Well done Karen...I always learn something new watching your videos.
It looks like cheating but if they made the pieces like that, maybe you're supposed to think outside the box... I guess it would be more fun to do it without that little help, but you'd probably spend way over FIVE hours on it!
Your a puzzle detective. Use all the clues you find.
I also thought of blokus! About when you said tetris is when I first thought of it. Blokus has a 1 player puzzle where all the pieces fit on the board with normal blokus rules applying
Five! Well done on being so resourceful x
Is anyone else bothered by the one piece in the globe on the bookcase that's not flush with everything else?!
I WASN'T ... till you mentioned it.
wow, I'm so early haha! just to let you know, if you see this, Karen, it looks like one of the pieces of your sphere puzzle may be popping out a little. don't want it to fall apart!
I need to fix that!
noticed it too.
I used to play blokus with my ex’s family over the holidays and stuff. I had forgotten about it until you mentioned here with five seconds left in your video!
My first thought about this puzzle was to trase off a simplified version of the pieces (keeping the shapes and skipping the in and out-s) on a sheet of paper (better coloured only on one side) and then try to create a square out of them :) 5!
Hi Karen! I don't think it's cheating at all! Those are the tools they gave you. I've been enjoying your videos! Happy Valentine's day! 5
I don’t think that is cheating that is a great Resource
5:13 All of them are letters! All twelve possible pentominoes (groups of five connected squares, which these pieces all are if you ignore the jigsaw ins/outs) have a one-letter name. They're usually remembered by their spelling out "FLIP 'N TUVWXYZ".
Also: _Blokus_ is a perennial. I still remember when it first came out and I feel old knowing it turns twenty this year! It's still one of my favorite strategy games. I used to bring it to game nights at college; a friend of mine would invariably crack out their Sean Connery impression: " _Blokus_ ?! You didn't drag poor _Blokus_ along, did you?"
Newer subscriber here. Really enjoy unwinding with your videos at the end of the day. I’ve already watched FIVE today.
i always use wood grain to "cheat" in puzzles and i begin to think that i just may really like doing wood textures. five!
oooohh i(f) I designed th(i)s puzzle and then someone went and sol(v)ed it using a complet(e)ly different method I didn't intend, I'd be kinda miffed lol. But it'd be my own fault! You exposed a flaw in the design, now they just need to fix it.
Five. Not a problem. When you showed the pieces early on, the way you did it of following the grain on the back was the way I thought about. Gotta do what you gotta do to get it done. .
You are a true professional by not looking at the solution before you start not even looking at a hint of the solution makes you a true master of puzzles
I am full of mock outrage at the immoral display of cheating I just witnessed. I’m so upset I’m going to go make a sandwich.
lol
Happy Valentine's karen xoxox from crystal and kids
love your videoos ahaha and your personal debates i discover you like 1 month ago and saw all the videoos! Five hugs from Dominican Republic! x'D
theoretically the puzzle has an image on it like other puzzle, only this image can not be seen very well. at other puzzles you can use the image. at this one it is a bit blurry, but that does not mean you can not use the image.
In my view, this solution was just thinking outside of the box. I might have quite enjoyed picking away at this brain teaser, for five minutes here and there, but Karen is in quite a unique position where she is filming and editing multiple videos and is also expected to finish in record time. So this process worked for her. 👌🏼
I think this is the solution and good strategy for lvl 10 puzzle. And putting pieces randomly is not what you should do here.
Definitely flipping it was a great idea! It was still a challenge even with looking at the grain. I like the concept of using it as a desk toy!
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U are so good
Actually I would have flipped it over because this way you can see the shape of the piece way better. Think this is part of the brainteaser.
You could finish by not turning over, but why should you?
Five 😉
I've recently found your channel and love it, your enthusiasm is so addictive - exactly how i feel about puzzles... Have you tried any of the krypt puzzles by Ravensburger.. Love your work.. 😁
Yes!!! I love Blokus!! And the Blokus Trigon variation!!
Also, five :)
I sort of think it is cheating, in a way. When you said you didn't want to spend a long time trying to figure it out, that just cemented that your thing is jigsaw puzzles, not brain teaser puzzles.
You should do what you enjoy, not what the world wants you to do. I totally stand by her decision, even if its technically cheating
I think your way of doing it is as much "cheating" as looking at the picture when doing a normal puzzle. So no, I say this isn't cheating.
Doing it without that would probably take like "5" hours
Hi Karen! I love your videos and I’m glad I found your channel. A big high FIVE for ya (get it, get it? Hehe) see ya on the next one!
The problem of looking at the wood grain is that then it becomes one of those mini puzzles that aren't that compelling to do again. A pieces puzzle is a challenge to be done again, a 20 piece puzzle is not once is done one time.
Karen, you didn't cheat! You just solved the alternate jigsaw puzzle first. :P
First time I'm this early 😄
Early squad!
I was thinking about doing it upside down, not for the woodgrain, but to eliminate the false sides of the "five" pieces, making it easier to see the pieces together.
this seems to be based on Pentomino or Penta puzzle which I actually had as a kid which is a set of all unique 5-square combinations that you are able to make, obviously without any innies and outies. so in the original you would not get any duplications, but on the other hand you could easily flip a shape over, cause they had no obvious "right" sides. the original challenge was a big rectangle, but there was a booklet challenging you to form other shapes as well.
my first immediate though for a strategy for this one would have been to copy the shapes to paper, color each peace for visibility, and play around with that, but at first I didn't realize they had a "wrong" side. so your approach would have been my next though ;D and looking for hints in the woodgrain is just a natural consequence :)
I think it was definitely cheating to use the back of the pieces, but I would never attempt this, so I can’t criticize!
The wood grain is a legitimate way to solve this...And as others have said they chose wood grain. Five!
My bf surprised me today for Valentine's Day with a puzzle he had ordered that has our favorite picture of us together on it!!! I already started it today and got maybe 35% done, ugh it's hard! I asked how many pieces because it didn't say on the box. He said he thinks it was over 500, I was like ohhh man, lol. He knows I've been watching a lot of "puzzle videos" lately (hehe, *KAREN'S,* of course!) and she inspired me to get the 3D Color Sphere puzzle, so he knows that after I did THAT one how much I really liked it and miss doing puzzles, so he got me this for V-Day. 😄❤️
Iam just here to watch you put it together. I dont care how you get there i just love seeing you finish it. Five🤩🤩🤩
I think that is cheating, but I would do the same 😂
The first time if you're on a time limit always work smarter not harder and then when you're not on any limit then challenge yourself to do it that way... It's not cheating atleast acc to me
Omg i thought you was going to say you was leaving and not doing your channel I'm like nooo you are very calming and relaxing to watch
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