How to use a Pressure Barrel for homebrew beer
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- čas přidán 27. 10. 2016
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Tutorial on the correct way to set up a pressure barrel for serving home brewed beer.
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really good video....clear and precise
PTFE tape on the tap thread works wonders ;)
Great video. I have the same barrel but just needed some plain talking experienced brewer to tell me the facts. Handy tips were a bonus. Thanks
great how to vid dude all explained well. and nice little link at the end.
Will give this a go mate you make it look simple cheers
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A good vid for me, have just racked off my first brew, ( well, my first brew for about fifteen years, used to homebrew way back then ). Welcome to the tube mate, your channels new, would be interested in anymore homebrew posts you post here in future, thanks mate.
i hope you didn't start drinking the brew after just 1 week in the barrel like he said, more like 1 month james
Mmmmmm, sold 👍🏻👌🏻 Cheers 🍻
Just got a barrel for some cider I was putting down... came for info about the gas canisters. Stayed and subscribed because. Well, because beer, really.
Good video. Thanks.
Nice one mate, cheers.
@Brew Dudes nice one bud. I will be filling up mine at the weekend and will let it carb up, been ages since I used the PB since kegging but it's for a kit brew I did and as you say it's an English ale so should suit!
Just watched this! I may be s bit late but an exceptional video👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
The instructions with my barrel states "hand tight is not enough" I was a bit dubious regarding that statement. I think I'll just follow your instructions. Nice looking pint there by the way
@brewdude, I'm loving the brew fridge, never thought about that idea, have you got a video on how to set one up?
Ok, this vaseline thing.....I have done decades of plumbing, when it comes to sealing things, I would use a tube of fernox silicone, it's specially formulated for this. You can also check how good your seal is by using a HP bike pump on a tee with a pressure valve, not expensive. A bit of washing-up liquid on your joints will reveal where your leaks are, as would your pressure gauge to tell you if you are in the ballpark.Domestic heating systems have to withstand very high pressures, so you have to be confident that your joints will not leak-before you charge up the system!
True. I have two manufacturers barrels. One is super reliable. The other blows. Once I flattened the top of the barrel with emery cloth, get the seal flat, used ptfe on the CO2 seal and plain old cling film like ptfe on inside cap thread I finally got even the badly manufactured barrels gas tight.
I have two similar barrels but reddish colored that I believe I bought from Boots about 1982 while I was stationed in the UK as a US airman. The caps have co2 bulb injection and to the side, a brass spring loaded plunger cylinder for pressure relief. I would like to put them back into use but the original seals leak. I’m looking for replacement parts.
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Your deformed washers are similar to the problem of deformed washers on domestic sink traps (u bend). The washers get stretched and deformed and so leak. I have put those washers through a gas flame (cooker) very briefly and the heat relieves the stresses in the material and they quickly return to their normal shape.
I'm just about to start home brewing and if you do try it I would be interested to know how you got on.
Thanks for the video.
I place my stressed washers in a plastic measuring jug and pour freshly boiled water from the kettle onto them until they return to their shape,
It seems like plumbing a pressure gauge into the system would help monitor pressure?
Great video thanks for sharing.
One question do these pressure barrels allow you to drink as and when. Or do you need to consume the barrel in a short period of a few days?
A comment from my mechanic days, we were always told to never use Vaseline on rubber seals, due to the fact its petroleum based it will attack the rubber and actually speed up the perishing process... worth researching.
I’ve wanted to try one of these pressure barrels but not available here in Australia. I suppose you could use a FermZilla all rounder and do it that way. Pretty much the same
yeah a fermzilla could work just like a float tap PB if you conditioned it to a low carbonation level :)
Unless I missed it, I didn't see you put the backnut on. Is this not necessary? I have the same model as your self and switched tap for a bottleing wand tap which has a slow leak and no back nut.
My first attempt I seemed to be tipping away lots of froth to get a pint. Am I opening up the tap too much do you think?
Using a keg without a pressure gauge is really risky. I'd never consider doing this. For example, I have just spent three days trouble shooting a leaky keg. Changed all the seals etc. Used a ton of PTFE. I'm still having trouble. Luckily ttd keg is filled with water so there's no rush.
So my lager is tasting sweet and kind of apples😣Can I drop some hops in the keg to get a more bitter taste?
Do you have to slacken the top cap to release the beer ? I tried it without slackening it off and next to nothing came out.
+Dudes Brews ive but mine in a barrel tonight its john bull traditional english ale its in a pantry will i need my heatbelt on it? Il invest i think in a thermometer tomorrow
i wouldnt listen to this guy, he is doing it wrong
Can I use this method to barrel an American IPA? I usually bottle it but it would be so much easier if I could do it this way.
Also at what point do you purge the barrel with a C02 canister? Would it just be as and when you need it?
yes you can, just bear in mind it won't give you the same fizzy carbonation as bottling, barrels will give a more cask like pour. You can purge the barrel right at the start if you want to remove any chance of oxidation but after that just use it to top up the pressure as and when you need it
I’ve just bought one. I’ve also bought those sparkles bulbs and applicator. Can I just use a bit of gas or does the whole 8g have to go in? 👍
Alas once you puncture it it will let as much in as it needs - could be the whole 8g except you probably lose a bit of it between puncturing and making a seal.
Wouldn't it be easier to use the tab in the fermenting vessel while transferring beer into the pressure barrell? Is it really necessary to use the syphoning hose? I've just made 40 litres of cider and drained them into the keg and bottles straight from the tap... well, it's cloudy as meant to be (but nonetheless the sediment stood firmly at the bottom of FV), I don't think it would make any much difference through syphoning. I might be doing something wrong, please clarify.
it reduces oxidization to siphon. after fermentation has started, its important to reduce o2 to get a cleaner ferment. do that by reducing splashing around and air exposure as much as your system allows.
Hi Mate,
Superb info thank.. 1 question when you poured a pint after one week to check it’s condition did you inject the co2 before you did that!
I’m just about to begin brewing so forgive me if it sounds like a daft question.
Thanks,
Simon Roberts.
No that was just from pressure generated by the priming sugar fermenting, you shouldn’t need to top up gas until you have drunk quite a bit of the beer
Brilliant, thanks for the fast reply👍
@@DudesBrews
Fantastic video my friend.
I'm just getting back into brewing beer again, and have No experience with PB'S!
I got fed up with bottling due to the amount of space required to store it all, especially if you have multiple brews at any one time!
Myself and my family arn't big drinkers, and just wanted to ask how long will your beer keep in a PB before it goes bad?
Is it a case of it will keep okay so long as you have a back pressure of co2?
Open eye thanks the beer can last for months but yes it does need top pressure on it throughout, if the tap starts glugging it is letting air (oxygen) in which will start to stale the contents. Once the natural pressure starts to drop off its best to give it a quick squirt of CO2 with the injector 👍🏻
@@DudesBrews one should be able to get 50% of the barrel empty before thinking about needing CO2. I had a lager that went 75%. So it does depend on the brew. For something like a Barley wine I would always bottle it. But an IPA works well in the keg.
Wondered how u got the nut on the back of the tap was waiting for your ferret
haha still not got a ferret for the brewery better put one on the list lol
So do i need to bottle the beer if i have a pressure barrel? Or can i just have 2 or 3 pints a night untill the barell is empty?
Am a noob
you can just drink from the barrel until its gone, you may need to top up with gas or reprime it at some point to get it all out tho
@@DudesBrews Excellent. Thanks for the fast reply.
When u take the measurement with the hydrometer??
after a couple of weeks in FV check the beer has reached terminal gravity before syphoning to a keg or bottling, check over 2 days and if it hasn't changed it should be finished
One issue I have is that after use the lid is so so tight. Any tips on removal?
a strap wrench is useful for getting lids off
@@DudesBrews that's an idea, thank you!
Doesn’t Vaseline mess up head retention?
Depends who's giving it :-). Not as far as I have found. I started brewing again about 1 year ago. In the past one had a 4" opening and a decent toroidal o ring. Didn't need vaseline on those. Flattening the top of the barrel with some emery cloth helps.
Can you carbonate a Lager in one of these ?
not really no, they cannot hold the pressure required for a proper fizzy carbonation. Best for ales and bitters etc
Dudes Brews I’ve got a Lager on the go because I got sent the wrong thing I order ale. And I’ve only got a pressure barrel. So what’s the best way to carbonate it ??
@@deanmartin7612 you can still put it in the barrel it will just be more like an ale carbonation wise, otherwise the best thing to do if you want some proper bubbles is bottle it
Thanks for your help dude.
I’ve got a bag of carbonate drops anything I can do with them ?
Use pressure beer barrel store water to wash hand and dish so don't use disgusting sewer sink or basin
1 week in the barrel, hmm think you need it in there for at least 1 month mate
1-2 weeks to get it carbed and further time to condition was what I said, the 1 week test was just to check it was holding pressure
ok sorry mate, i do apologize
Wow - Youve got way too much Vaseline on your cap seal, it should literally be a light smear and ONLY applied to the white seal, not on the threads. its to stop the seal snagging at the point it makes contact with the top of the barrel, the problem with too much Vaseline is that if there is enough to create a gasket effect, you will tighten the cap down as much as you physically can and if a Vaseline gasket is created (even if its 0.5mm thick) as soon as you pressure gets high enough the co2 will look for a way out and blow the Vaseline Gasket. For the tap seal.......never ever put any Vaseline on this black tap seal or tap thread or barrel thread, you are just creating problems, firstly Vaseline on the actual tap threads can help the threads to slip when tightening the tap, then Vaseline on the black tap seal means that as the tap is tightened, you can actually pop the black seal out of its recess fairly easily. So to correctly fit a barrel tap. dry the are completely and pop your tap with the seal fitted into a mug of boiling water for 2 minutes, this will soften the black seal which will help it to squeeze up when tightening. Also on your video, you are tightening the tap in totally the wrong place, because this is a 2" barrel you cannot get your hand inside, therefore the taps do not have a backnut and are designed to be tightened by the 2 lugs that sit behind the spout, you should tighten by using these lugs and applying as much pressure as possible.....the lugs are actually for use with a "C Spanner" but as not everyone owns one of these i suggest wrapping a Tea towel around the lugs for extra purchase and leaning your upper body over the barrel to help get the tap as tight as possible.....the back of your tap should visibly bite into the black tap seal a little. Then the likelihood that the spout is facing downwards is very slight, therefore the spout is designed to spin completely separately to the main body of the tap, it can be firm, but just twist it to the correct position. Trying to tighten the tap by its spout is fairly useless, the spout will spin, but the tap body will be loose in the barrel, you must tighten by the lugs.
Can you point to an official video that shows what you typed please? I have two Balliihoo barrels and in general they don't work as supplied. The one I got from Farnborough homebrew just worked. I found I had to level the top of the barrel - but the lid seal never wanted to seal.
Tonight thanks to this video I got further. So again - please post your video so we can learn from the supplier.
@@stephenhookings1985 Hi Stephen - The cap part is fine on this video, just use way less Vaseline, it should literally be a light smear, we dont have any videos yet, but had to point this out as its a very common misconception, that slathering everything in Vaseline on a pressure barrel will seal it up. Send me an email explaining exactly where you think your barrel is leaking and i will try to help. BTW Balliihoo barrels are identical to the one in the above video, regardless whose brand it is, the shells are all made by one company and then its the taps and caps that are different on them. If you have the Balliihoo red cap on your barrel, its really easy to check by pumping air in via the Schraeder valve and then tipping it upside down in a sink or large bowl of water.
Great video thanks for sharing.
One question do these pressure barrels allow you to drink as and when. Or do you need to consume the barrel in a short period of a few days?
A comment from my mechanic days, we were always told to never use Vaseline on rubber seals, due to the fact its petroleum based it will attack the rubber and actually speed up the perishing process... worth researching.
Thanks Paul, these will allow you to keep the beer for quite a while depending on how you use them, because the beer is under pressure from c02 it should stay in decent condition as the barrel empties. I have had beer in them for several months without problems BUT lots of factors at play such as temperature, oxygen levels whether the barrel maintains pressure, beer style and strength etc etc. If you want to keep beer in them for more than a few weeks I would suggest the most important things are being able to keep a low cellar like temperature and using c02 bulbs or even better a small hambleton bard cylinder to flush the barrel (remove 02) before filling and to top up the pressure as the barrel empties and you lose the pressure from the initial priming sugar. That should limit any oxidisation and also potential bacterial growth which might make it go off. Hope that helps cheers
Once the beer builds up pressure and you leave it for a few weeks to settle it should be good. It should last a long time... but I tend to drink mine quickly :-)