You hit that boy again, I'm gonna do more than salute you - Major Payne
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Encouraging a drunk man to return to his vehicle. Not wise.
You hit that boy again I’m gonna do more than salute you
The boy went from hating major payne to honestly respecting him right there with that moment.
He just needed to be reminded of what a real bully is.
@@gokuandmario4ever when I was in Navy RTC there were so many people, kids really, that didn't quite understand what the petty officers were there to teach them. I was born on an Army base, I grew up around these people so I knew the game. I did my best to help the others understand they weren't trying to pick on them, they were trying to train them.
@@Sillydraco I understand the difference between being a trainer and being a jerk. I once had this supervisor at work who would punish me for the smallest mistakes all because he was miserable about his personal life. The other supervisors are hard too, but he took it too far, and eventually got fired for it.
This guy here was drunk loser and he knew it, so he tried to make his stepson feel like a bigger loser by making him suck up to him. Then the major showed up and put that pathetic fool in his place, reminding him of what he truly was.
it just goes to show that respect needs to be earned,evn for elders...the problem with respect is that the young are expected to respect athorety figures,elders and even parents out the gate...but if you treat somone like crap your just giving them more reasons not to listen to you.
payne showed a genuine apreciation and cared for that boy despite his attitude...that example of protecting him is what earned that respect.
At that moment, Payne was more of a father than his step-dud.
The way Payne moved Alex behind him, placing himself fully between the two. The just looms at the father.
I love it
Major Payne may be a hardened war veteran trying very hard to settle back into civilian life but one thing is certain: he has a heart and he cares about his cadets like they’re his own children. Seeing that smile on Alex’s face and him saying he wants to win that trophy showed that he realized he had a support system with Major Payne all along and that he was safe.
Powerful stuff
EXACTLY what a real father would do.
I love it too
@@CourtneyLachiver No, he did not say, he wants to WIN the trophy. He wants to EARN it. In this context it makes a huge difference.
Never strikes the step dad once. Honorable moment from Major.
Bare in mind, we know this is a man who could kill trained soldiers with his bare hands. The Step Dad is neither a threat, nor is he worth the effort of striking back
@@weldonwin A cool detail, at the beginning of the movie Major tries to be a police officer but fails at controlling real world situations with restrain. The boys mad him a man as well.
@@whodatking26The Military made him a Soldier but the Boys made him a Man.
@@DarkLordDiablos No, they made him an adult . . . a father.
@@weldonwin*bear
I've got a stepson now. Never in a million years would I even consider treating him like that. He may not be my blood but he is my family.
Respect
The difference between being a father and a Dad...
You are a man
I respect that, your a good man and a good father, unfortunately, as shown here, some people are not meant to be parents.
My sister has a partner, she's recently divorced her husband. She has too kids, and they both love and respect my sister's new man. Nice guy, hard worker, more on my sister's wavelength. Treats the kids well, find it a little intimidating but he tries his best not to be a father, but a guardian and above all... a great friend to them.
In time, he probably will be their new dad.
Michael Ironside one of the best bad guys ever.
See you at the party richter
Get your ass to mars
My thoughts exactly.😅 Loved him in Starship Troopers.
No one snarls and makes guttural sounds like Michael Ironside!
And Good Guys either it's in movies tv shows or even videos games like Command & Conquer Tiberium Wars he's a tremendous Actor
I tear up when he says "Go on back to your bunk, son." He calls him "son," and assures him that the step-dad can't hurt him now. That look Alex gives him, it's so beautiful.
until he has to go back home
@@miketurner643 hopefully he turns 18 and is freed.
He also says it in a normal voice.
Pretty sure its the first time he refers to Alex as something other than "cadet," "turd," or some other demeaning nickname.
@@midori_salas agreed. He broke distance.
Michael Ironside, plays good guys, bad guys, henchmen, offsiders, whatever pays the bills. Guy had a constant career, should have been given more prominent roles.
Better add topgun to that list he played a great officer.
No doubt, he is a great character actor. Deserves kudos.
He was good in Starship Troopers.
Great in Total Recall.
Kinda 2-dimensional in the next karate kid, but the whole movie was lacking
It’s seriously scary how much Payne is holding back in this scene! That guy had no idea who he was dealing with.
Its because Payne knew he wasn't worth hitting
You would have to be a fool or a major bad ass to fuck with a DI
He casually dealt with a guy 3 times the size barely breaking a sweat; step dad never would have had the chance to take a swing unless he let him
@@barrylyndon5552 If the stepdad had taken a swing, major Payne would have killed him. Then he would turn to cadet stone and ask What did you see? If i were cadet stone i would have said i saw my abusive stepfather attack the major and the major was forced to defend himself your honor.
@@williamlancaster5136 dude took three swings and Payne played it off to keep his cadet out of trouble, and his troop from being in trouble
Alex never had anyone defend him before. Just let's him know there are still good ppl on this world that would stand up for a kid. Glad he got to see a different side of Payne.
It's a side he doesn't show too much. He probably has a rep to protect... Probably doesn't want people to think he's soft. Can't blame him for that one.
I dont think maj payne is necessarily being overly hard. Sure he's beating the kids into shape using his marine methods, but everything he was doing was to instill the same sense of camaraderie, teamwork and mateship that makes a marine unit the force it is. Its just that in this very moment he also was defending one of his own men who was under imminent threat which is something the kids had not yet seen from him. All they knew up to that point was "marine dude is hard work and rules". They all added "will stand between them and the fire" to the list of paynes attributes after that
1:20 In the Marines, they have taught a list of leadership principles since at least as far back as the 1950's. One of them explicitly states, "Know your Marines and look out for their welfare." It's at least _that_ one that the major is following, here.
💙
The Corps is an impressive organization and produces amazing Marines.
We used the acronym JJ DID TIE BUCKLE in the late 90's. Judgement, Justice, Decisiveness, Integrity, Dependability, Tact, Initiative, Enthusiasm, Bearing, Unselfishness, Courage, Knowledge, Loyalty, Endurance. As well as the core values of Honor, Courage, and Commitment.
@@v1ct0r32679 Oh, yes. That's a useful acronym for remembering the leadership _traits,_ but there are also leadership _principles._ The Armed Forces teaches both.
That way in the Army as well. It's in our handbook.
I always liked this movie, especially this part. The Major finally finds out where the chip on his (now) lead cadet’s shoulder came from. The interaction with the stepfather changed both Payne & Stone’s opinions of each other afterward. Glad that scene made the edit.
You can see both of them gaining insight on the other and now the young man sees not everyone is an asshole like his step father.
It is one of the best scenes and is the turning point for the cadets.
@@offworlder1 it’s a bit deep than that, a child who sees their parents fail like this get the feeling that all authority figures are at worst willfully malicious or at best incompetent, it can also make them much better leaders and authority figures themselves if it doesn’t break them. I’ve seen it with a lot of folk and been through it myself and never want anyone else to if I can help it.
Truly one of the best scenes
@@curtrn ... just a thought, I know. Being ex-military now, after a 30 year career, what if both situations were wrong? Not only is the step father in the wrong, but so is joining the military? The sickness in society comes from accepting that the step father has a place in it. The sickness of society comes from accepting that the military has a place in it. This film, and all of its uniforms, was funded by the American military as a recruitment tool. The bias in the film is the fact that there are only two alternatives, when there are a multiple of alternatives. There are a massive number of recruited grunts in the military from one parent families. The military thrives on this ... just my 2 cents ...
@@oscarwilde5473EXACTLY. and in many cases the military messes them up way worse than any family situation ever could. Even breaks them so bad they commit suicide years after leaving. Happened to someone i loved dearly
Remember, Drill Sergeants might be hard on their recruits, only because it's to make them soldier material,
but at the end of the day, they actually care about those under their charge.
Like I always tell anyone looking to go in, just as my father told me when I went to basic "Take everything they say to heart, *NEVER* take it personal unless it's a genuine compliment. They are there to build you into a better person."
If they didn’t care about you they’d go easy on you so you weren’t prepared to face the battles ahead
Unless they're complete psychos.
I am almost certain this is the first moment he refers to the cadets as " Do the rest of you 'men' feel the same way? " A lot changes right here in this scene and not all of the change is so obvious.
It's not just about making them soldier material. Some recruits are kids that come from hard lives, they learn respect, team work/cooperation, and make friends. That's important for kids to keep them out of trouble.
The way Payne says "go on back to your bunk son" like so many things as to why Alex acts the way he dies just finally started to make sense and he shows a moment of actual sensitivity is a highly under rated moment in this movie
When Major Payne says "Go on back to your bunk, son." he understood Alex. When Alex said "I wanna get that trophy, sir." he finally had that father figure he could trust.
Sometimes the adult pushing you to be your best isn’t your favorite person, but they have your back sometimes more than your own folks. One of the best scenes
True
Dats real spill 💯
As a Veteran, I can definitely say that this scene was absolutely correct. We WILL protect others even with our own bodies if needed.
damn straight !!!
As a _decent human being,_ I can confirm that this is true for decent human beings. I am glad that you are also one of those in addition to being a vet, thanks for your service.
Loved this part. When Major Payne stood up for Alex… Alex respected Major Payne.
Major Payne EARNED Alex's respect.
@@demonika13601Hell Yes he did
He earned the respect of the whole group.
His acting might be over the top. But the little things like stepping in between the father and son to protect him. That is top notch.
Over the top? Duh, you think? Havnt seen such bad acting in a long time.
The acting is not over the top. It’s excellent. Stop watching movies if you can appreciate it.
Gotta appreciate the simple tactics of not even throwing a punch, just letting his opponent's debilitated sense of balance be his own downfall.
For me, that was Bar Fight 101, more than 50 years ago. "You can't hurt your hands if you never throw a punch." It's fun to see your opponent hurt himself hitting a wall or the ground, and it's tough for the aggressor's friends to claim you started the fight when you never threw a punch!
The fact that payne could have literally turned that man into a leather jacket but took the high road represents the kind of marines my grandpa was part of
An understated thing about this is the look Major is giving the stepfather throughout. Seeing a guardian hitting the person legally under their care would make a lot of mens blood boil. Yet the look Major is giving is one of pity. He realizes how pathetic the situation and display are and is doing his best to not make it worse while not allowing any more harm to come to his student.
Trying to harm a child in front of a Marine. Dude is just asking for some Major Payne.
United States Marine- No Better Friend, No Worse Enemy
"Ask, and ye shall receive!"
Every father here knows what was happening when Payne moved him back and got between em. Mothers can brag about turning into "Mama Bear" all they want, but daddy's will go off in a heartbeat
One of my sisters had a paper route back in the early 80s; and on her route, one her customers had a nasty dog. It was vicious and smart; it would lie in ambush and had people up and down the street scared. One day my sister came home crying, because the dog wouldn't let her near the house. Dad took her and our younger sister to the house, rolled up the paper into a tight baton and waited for the dog. It came charging at Dad and he smacked it across the face, causing it to run off yelping. The owner came out ready to lay into Dad; but the former Marine DI came out and told him if that fucking dog ever came near his daughter again, he would come back and kill it. The dog was never seen again.
@@tygrkhat4087your dad wasn’t playing around 😂
@@nakaylahsmith7356 No, he was not.
"Please return to your vehicle"
The dude's drunk, man, not a good idea.
it was back in the olden days...
...nobody cared back then.
Back when the median speed limit was 30 MPH, and everyone drove 50 @@davidh4374
Its a movie if you unaware
Payne has time. He could make a little phonecall, give a description, time and movement, and mention what a shit head the stepdad was.
@@darthlazurus4382 this is a movie
1:58, Alex's face here is so powerful. You can see how no one's ever done this kind of thing for him, and his eye's are full of so much sadness and respect.
The 90s had such great movies, music and TV shows
The world was slowly getting better up to the 90s or even early 2000s. After that the world was getting worse at an accelerating pace.
This scene felt realistic than being funny
Never fight a drunk, let them fight themselves just like Major did. I remember when I was younger, and my then step-dad would always drink. One day, he was acting especially stupid. My grandpa told him, "I'm tired of your crap." So the drunk wanted to fight him. "Let's take this outside!" He tells my grandpa. "Alright, let's go." The drunk walked outside first, and my gramps slammed the front door and locked it and said one word... "dumbass."
I like your granddad.
You hit that boy again I’m gonna more than salute you
This movie is such an underrated gem. Funny, but serious at just the right parts.
And Michael Ironside in a short cameo playing a role like that was amazingly effective.
Major Payne doesn't get the credit he deserves. As a role model and father figure. 😊
One of my favorite movies of all time. So damn funny.
“What the little train didn’t know was that Charlie had rigged the bridge with explosives. BOOOM!”😂
I love how Payne pushed the young man back with his hand to get him out of the way. That was awesome. 👊
I applaud Major Payne for saving one of his cadets from being continuously assaulted by his drunk stepdad.
Despite this being a supporting role and it's only about two and a half minutes long, Ironside really puts on a great performance here and manages to stand out. His character comes off both as threatening and pathetic at the same time. Shows how capable he is.
I've seen bad movies that had Michael Ironside in them. But I've never seen one where he was the reason it was bad.
@@BoogieSquared Very true!
Very under-rated movie.
I really have to agree with you.
I think it's beloved by many.
Been a drill sergeant in my time, too! 40 years ago now! A good military superior has the back of his cadets and enough confidence to take a stand for them!
The first weeks of basic training it may look like you hate every one of them, but in the end they find out it was a good thing how you treated them! "Surviving" this teaches you that you can do much better than you ever thought! Something parents should have taught their children in the first place!
I can honestly say that Staff Sgt Donald P Adams (some names you never forget) changed my life, put me on a better trajectory. He earned my respect by respecting me, but demanding the best I could do. Hats off to ya, Sarge - hope a lot of folks remember your name 50 years later.
Damn right Sir.
I Thank you for your service, even if I'm Canadian
Advocating parents should military drill their children?
@@grayden4138 some could use some discipline
Sir, I object firmly to your assessment. It is well-known that authoritarian parenting is harmful.
I love this because this is the moment that Alex learns that Major Payne does what he does because he wants what's best for Alex, and he could trust Major Payne with his life.
It's also a moment where Payne grows as well bc now he understands why Alex acts the way he does and you can just hear the sympathy and almost apology from Payne when he says "go on back to your bunk son" like yea I know I'm hard on you and we've had some tension but I promise I have your back and I understand why you're so defensive now
This was one of, if not *the* best scene in this whole movie. We got to see that for as hard as Payne had been on the Cadets, he cared too. He never had been a family man, the military was most of what he knew, he didn't know how to deal with kids. Yet, he never once harbored any ill will toward them, never wanted to see them hurt. Given what he was there for, he wanted them to be the best they could, he was just trying to go about it in the only way he knew how. In that one moment he showed the Cadets, and even Alex above all, that even though getting off on the wrong foot and butting heads several times, he was there for them.
The way Payne handles the situation is flawless.
I love one attention to detail, Major Payne's uniform looks like its been through the wash more than a few times, thus the "salty" look - were as the kids uni's are still fresh.
Love this movie. This scene is the definition of respect is earned, not given.
The fact he didn't waste his time wasting his behind is hilarious 😂
An understated element of the writing and directing here is that Major Payne, after effortless diffusing the situation without throwing a single punch, immediately starts following behind Alex's loser of a step-father. This is never stated, but I always took that as his intention was also make sure the drunk idiot was properly handled by authorities and doesn't get back the wheel of his car.
For such a silly sometimes over the top way Payne was this scene was amazing. Not only for him standing up for him but how they both had a new understanding & respect for each other the kid for Payne standing up for him & Payne for realizing why the kid acts up & challenges authority
Major Payne has their back
What a classic. I must have watched it a dozen times over the years. I especially love the 'the little engine that could ' bed time story 😂😂
After i spent 22 years in the military, my wife says I still have dining habits like Major Payne. One should never procrastinate or play with the food. Time is of the essence.
🤣🤣
Eat Now, Taste It Later
My grandfather and great grandfather were in the army. My dad told me they used to eat fast and polish their plates clean like they were already washed.
At dinner with friends, Damn Q, it's called minute steak çause that's how long it takes to cook, not to eat it.
I eat like that too but mostly from having to scarf down food on short breaks at work bc I was never going to go all day without eating if I could avoid it. There were times I'd legit just have a can of chef boyardee pop the lid and scarf it right out of the can
Michael Ironside did one hell of a performance here. I can see the cowardly, insecure man that he is portraying. So easy to hate and making us really feel something when they Major Payne protected the boy.
We don't always appreciate that the secondary characters set up the mood but only if they are great actors!
Poor guy was about to cry when Payne stood up for him.
Michael Ironside has played some of the most despicable characters to ever befoul the silver screen. But I have heard he is actually a really nice guy.
The nicest, sweetest people play the best villains' and bad guys. As it gives the actors a chance to explore a side of them and bring out the best of the role.
I mean when you have a actor play a villian role so good that you forget that it is just a show then you know that they are good at what they do.
Ron Pearlman is known for a lot of his well i would say not nice roles as both in human and creature make up. In the 1980s there was a show called Beauty and the Beast and Ron played Vincent who was deformed and looked like a cat, but was real sweet and caring but would go feral when those he loved were in danger.
@@sassbrat A lot of good kind guys play the evil role to enjoy playing at someone that they are not in a fun and safe way. It lets people touch on their darker nature without anyone hurt, and get paid to do so.
Look at how many of them play good or normal roles as well, it’s all to do something different and to see how far their acting range goes.
@@offworlder1 so true. Ryan Guzemen from 9-1-1 who plays Eddie Diaz was in a movie The boy next door with Jennifer Lopez. He was cast as a shoscopath or physcopath who could fool everyone and that role was dark to which was a change from he roles he did before.
@@sassbrat It’s all about changing it up for a lot of guys, they are the good sweet guy in real life and most roles, being a crazy killer is just plain fun to do a role no one expects and bonus points if you pull it off so well you are iconic as the evil character and not the good guy.
@@offworlder1 If I had been a film or stage actress I'd love to play villians My dream role would have been Livia in "I, Claudius"
Michael Ironside is amazing. As a voice actor, he is the perfect gruff hero. As a physical actor, he perfectly looks and sounds the part of a villain. Not necessarily physically imposing but he certainly exudes a presence that says "danger".
That's true love right there. When a person cares, has compassion and protection for another and don't hesitate to help or save another.
Finally they all became Family. I loved this movie and the actors in it.
This movie was one of the building blocks of how i was raised, i encourage anyone who wants their kids to grow up to be respectable and dare i say kind men to watch this, have them watch it, and please take the lessons from this show to heart.
"take the lessons from this show to heart."
Translation: "Join the military, they're infallible."
Might want to take a cold shower.
@@CoralCopperHead nobody said that and honestly that that is the message you take away from this shows what you paid attention to during the film. Have a good day sir/madam.
This scene truly illustrates NO CHILD is a particular problematic way for NO REASON . It’s up to the adults to pull out why
MAJOR PAYNE excellent movie
Major Payne.
This moment revealed his true character.
The boys knew he wasn’t the complete barbarian they made him to be. He was just tough on them because that’s the way to improve.
Alex look like he wanted to cry tears of happiness because of Payne protecting him, and calling him son.
Plus Payne has an actual moment of learning what being sensitive actual meant bc now he understands why Alex is so confrontational
@@jlogan2228I might be incorrect, but in the military aren't you supposed to suppress your emotions while being enlisted
An old movie that gets better and better every time I see it!
Because the older we get, the more we understand what Payne is all about.
This movie deserves a rewatch. I forgot how good it was, and how much heart it had despite being a comedy.
My favorite part!!
As a adult, hits different
Love this scene but I think it would’ve worked better if after “Major Payne, Sir”, he would’ve stood there for a moment and then saluted. No further dialogue needed. Would’ve been perfect
Omg I’ve always thought this
I see your point, but there's more to the scene than the confrontation between father, son and Major Payne. I like the scene the way it is for a couple of reasons; first, Alex now has a sense of direction and sets a goal to aim for; second, the salute that shows the respect he now has for Major Payne; and third, it brings the whole group together as a team to work towards a common goal.
Major Payne earned his respect with that single act, along with the rest of those kids.
Real fathers protect their children. That's exactly what Major Payne did for this boy.
Jesus...Commander Rick "Jester" Heatherly is having a hard time.
“Jester’s dead!”
I like to Imagine this is what Sam Fisher was doing between Splinter Cell Double-Agent and Conviction.
The drunk stepdad went on about his life, enlisted in the Mobile Infantry to fight off the bug pandemic plaguing the known galaxy. He was known as LT Razscak of the Roughnecks!
I heard he's a real ball buster!
@@renzo7503 He only has one rule for everyone, newbies and otherwise: Everyone fights, no one quits. You don’t do your job, he’ll shoot you himself.
I get him. 🫡
I punch you in the face. "He saved my life."
Don't forget, when The Visitors came, he helped set up the resistance!
Was this before or after he lost an entire Orca to a kid?
Saw this movie a bunch of times as a kid. Watching as an adult with kids you notice things you didn’t the first time around and it hits differently. Like how he guides Alex behind him and places himself between the two.
Too many people sleep on this movie, a real classic to me
The step dad looks like a discount Jack Nicholson!😂
That's Michael Ironside, you should google him, he's been in some pretty badass roles
That's the Unit Commander from Starship Troopers!
That’s Sam Fisher from Splinter Cell.
With the shades on, discount Agent Smith
@@AlyssMa7rin Razak's Roughnecks !! 🙋♂
i honestly forgot how good this movie was and am gonna watch the full movie tonight. thanks for the clip and putting this amazing movie back on the radar
Criminally underrated movie
He said it so calming ima ask you nicely 😂😂😂😂😂
Michael Ironside had some badass roles! One of the finest villian actors ever!
Always loved this movie and the example here of how a REAL man should behave to the youth we protect them and guide them not harm them
My favorite scene from Major Payne.
I'm reminded of 'A Few Good Men' where at the end Hal states "We defend those that can't defend themselves."
To be honest, I was kinda expecting the stepfather to say " When You get home, I'm gonna give you the beating of your miserable life", I'm glad he didn't.
At which point Major Payne called the local police to inform them of a drunk driver, matching the stepfather's description. By the time the judicial system was done, Cadet Stone graduated & enlisted.
I think that's why Payne didn't throw punches and just asked him nicely to leave bc he understands that stone does have to go home at some point to this man
Most underrated scene in the movie!
Michael Ironside is such a trooper. Love him in everything he is!
Glad I met him.
back when they made good movies
Michael Ironside is one of the greatest actors. So good at playing a bad guy.
This scene still gives me chills lol
My kids loved this movie.
We now have a family saying, "Want me to show you a little trick, take your mind off that problem?"
oh man! One our family favorites! Even my 9 year old can quote lines from this one. ❤
So heartwarming.
Wish I had a father like M. Pain.
Major Payne is my favorite movie. I know it like the back of my hand and this scene quite literally makes me tear up a lil
It’s been years since I have watched this movie. Time to watch it again.
Kinda thought this was a dumb movie, but the look on Damon Wayans face was stellar at 2:02 showing deep empathy when he understood that the kid was abused.
Reminds me of my dad.. love him anyway RIP!
I think I have a high standard in movies. But I think that this is a WONDERFUL scene. KId won't back down, and the Instructor protects him. Dang!
How can you not love this movie?!
Call me an old timer, but they just don't make'm anymore like this!
damn...Jester really fell off after leaving the navy😢
Payne may have been hard on his students / recruits -but he had their backs in the end.
Ive always loved him hes an unappreciated jewel
When Major pushed Alex out of the way to get in between the two, it brought tears to my eyes, because before that point, Major was perceived to be heartless… this was a major turning point in the way they all perceived him
The original movie was called "The Private War of Major Benson". Wonderful movie. Just wonderful.
The only comedy Charlton Heston made.
@@deniseeulert2503 Really? I thought every movie he made was parody. Ben-Hur was a scream. By the way, Tim Hovey, the boy in “Benson “, had a tragic end.
@@stephendavidbailey2743 Don't confuse Heston's acting with his politics. He was one bad-a** movie actor.
Michael Ironside is really nice in person. He's also really tall.
@@SmellGood-qq6uj I think you have the wrong info.
Michael Ironside is only 5' 10" so average height.
@@0doublezero0 he seemed like a really big guy.
@@SmellGood-qq6uj Michael Ironside is very much alive
@@0doublezero0 I believe average mens hieght in the West is is 5' 9". A note to all those women living in cloud koo koo land. wanting a tall guy :D
That movie could be 150 years old and it is still good,silly,and well respected after that part
The best leaders are those that instill confidence in you to build you up both mentally and physically so you will know what to do if and when they are no longer there. They teach you how to lead your own life but also how to work as a team and lead others if called to do so. Everything is passed onwards, it is the cycle of life.
This film and kindergarten cop are the same in a way.