Off Road Tires - How Much do they Matter | Fins and Things | Moab
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Join us as we run the North section of Fins and Things in Moab with three other Jeep Grand Cherokee Owners. In this video we try to see if there is a difference between Falken Wildpeak AT3, BFG KO2, and the Stock Good Year Tires.
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All 4 vehicles looked to do very well. I would think air pressure would be the biggest factor on that trail.
Fins and things is a underrated trail it's more difficult in parts than people give it credit for
That was awesome!!! Thanks guys!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I like these videos, but I've been 4 wheeling for over 40 years and always old school, I've had ramchargers, jeeps, toyotas, and fords, and always went by the seat of my pants off road without any outside guidance. When I was younger we went all night long off road and ended up in places I look back today and still don't know how we got there. I have my 2011 hemi grand today and I can see how nice it would be to have a second set of eyes to guide you, but all in all 4 wheeling is about the challenge and how big of balls you have and how confident you are in your vehicle, regardless of whether you're alone or having someone guide you
Caleb did a stellar job again on the drone!
He sure did! Getting so
Smooth!
Went with wild peaks, just for the snow performance. Been happy with them, did fins & things and hells revenge last week without issues. Great video, thank you guys!
We found out the next day that Mike in the green GC TH, hadn't really aired down his tires at all on this run. Said he was running 30psi. He slipped a bit in the hills. The rest of us were at 22-ish psi.
The 265/65R18 are a good size for the grand Cherokee. I have Kenda Klever R/T LT265/65R18. They are a good inexpensive option for a hybrid all-terrain/max-traction tire. Thick side walls and large lugs. I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit QDII with the diesel.
Regarding 2 points on the trail: at 10:40, that hill showed 32⁰ pitch! Then, at 16:50, where we come out of the water, turn and go up. That incline was also steep, but I didn't get the angle. The AT3's did very well there, being wet, on the slick sandstone, and going up.
The trick is to air down, way down. Then try the tires.
Sticky tires are going to outperform others on slick rocks. Mud tires are going to outperform others in Mud . . .
After watching all your videos I went with the falkens and after this video I’m glad I did. It was a Toss up with the ko2 but after looking at tons of reviews I heard the ko2 were not so hot in the rain. I love my wildpeaks and they have yet to disappoint
Wildpeaks are a good tire!
I run General Grabber ATX on my 4Runner. When I bought them they were actually cheaper than the Falcons, which is one of the reasons that I went with them. I actually really like them, they've performed very well so far.
I think tires can make a huge difference, depending on the terrain. Not so much here, I know the Slickrock gives you incredible traction despite the name. Also works that way in a mountain bike, I was amazed at the steepness of the slopes I could climb, haha. I think if you were on one of the trails that you've run in the Northern areas of the country, tires would have made a bigger difference. That said, it almost looked like the Goodrich did the worst here.
I also really enjoyed watching these Grands in action, I'm continually impressed with how capable this platform is.
Thanks for the feedback. I would agree that terrain makes a big difference. Hope to meet up sometime!
on the 4Runner did they balance up well ?
Fortin yup!
I really like General tires. Had a set of General ATs on my 09 Liberty. Currently have a set of Kelly Edge ATs. When we up grade from the Firestone Destination AT on the wife's Cherokee TH, I will look at General tires again.
Another great video! I was really impressed with those stock Goodyears (don't understand why they get such a bad rap) The Wildpeaks and Goodyears made it look easy! The K02's seemed to struggle to find traction. I'm still running the stock GY on my JGC, waiting to see more reviews on the new Cooper Rugged Trek.
i run the rugged trek and so far they have been an awesome tire did most of the trails in Colorado in all weathers with them and not had any issues they are a bit louder than ko2's and the wildpeak when on the road and they are a little bit larger diameter wise due to the tread being more aggressive but they do not rub on my trailhawk even when in exit assist mode but they do fill the arches
I run Falken wild peak at3w’s and couldn’t be happier.
Every video you make shows me more of what my TH can do. I swear someday I'm going to do it myself, until then, I'l just let you handle it for me. :)
Ya have to get out there!
Awesome spotting!!
The guy in the white JGC made it look so easy.
Brian did great!
Hi, Brad and Lauren! I am still in Greece off-roading on the three Sporades islands: Skiathos and Skopelos, both where "Mamma Mia" was filmed, and Alonissos. I am still in my stock 2016 JGC Overland Trail Rated and on my second set of OEM Kevlars; the first lasted about 25,000 miles. They perform great in the Greek terrain, which is "tamer" than the trails we have in the States.
BTW, Great video, as usual; the kind of trails I'd like to do in the kind of weather I love! The sky there and here seem identical! Keep on Jeeping!
Glad you’re doing well!
I absolutely love my landspyder ATs I recently installed on my grand. Tires make all the difference
It may be impractical but it might be a more accurate test if one person drove all the vehicles in the same manner.
Different lines and throttle inputs may affect how each tire performs.
I run the AT3 wild peaks in a 285/70/17 on my WK2. I love the smaller diameter wheels to get some more sidewall bite.
did you have to make any mods to get the 17' rims to fit the WK2? I've been looking into this but it seems the calipers hit smaller rims than stock size
BFG k02’s 275-75-R16 and they have worked for me but they don’t look like they did so well in this test, as mentioned from others I’m sure air pressure has a big factor. Thanks for the video!.
I enjoyed watching this. I just bought a used JGC 2013 as first off-road-capable vehicle and your videos give me confidence in my decision. I wish my budget was bigger so I can purchase trailhawk , but all I was able to afford was a Laredo. I gonna raise it 2.5 inch, install shields and new AT tires which I still have not decided which yet.
Congratulations on the new ride!
Stock tires, nah! ❤ loved the video! For me, I’d take my Rubicon first over the ‘22 Overland. 😊
Well the stock tires weren't bad at all. Great video
Thanks 👍
I'm running the Falken's and they are HEADS & SHOULDERS better at everything than the Goodyear stockers in mud and sand especially.
I was glad mine already had wild peaks on it when I got it cause that is what I would have swapped stock tires for. I really think the K02's are equivalent so it's up to the buyer but you definitely need one or the other vs the stock tire for sure. Even if you don't plan on doing off road they are way better in any inclement weather than the stock.
Great video. 2018 Trailhawk, V8. Factory Wranglers didn’t do well in Colorado winter conditions. I loved my Falken Wildpeaks, good in snow/cold(3PMSF), good ride. Unfortunately they are only available in PMetric in 265/65r18. LTs are less likely to fail in the field due to sidewall cuts. KO2’s (LT, 3PMSF, 265/65r18) have been a better solution for me.
Good info. Thanks!
We have a 21 Overland with Q D 2 and thankfully Q. L., and were wondering how the stock Goodyear’s would do in this kind of terrain. Question answered. We’ll keep em. Thanks for a great video AS ALWAYS! Any opinion on sidewall strengths since you have had a couple of sidewall flats with the Falkens?
I’m running 265/65-18 Duratracs on my Trailhawk and after about 10k miles they seem to be holding up well and have been great on the trails.
Thanks! And good stuff!
Toyo open country AT3. I prefer Bridgestone and will replace with ko2 for next set
The kelvar stock tires on my GC 2019 suck ko2s are next
Always thanks for your good movie.
Hey Brad, what were the select track settings across the vehicles? Were they set the same to remove that variable? Also were you the only one with 265/65's? I'm running 265/65 K02's and so far am very pleased. They just took a lot of punishment out in Telluride.
Can’t say I could see much of a difference in tire performance from this video. The stock Goodyear Adventures don’t seem to get much respect but I’ve run tons of trails in Moab with them and have never had a traction problem. Never been in the mud but I suspect that would be their downfall. I’ll be needing new tires next year but can’t decide between stock Goodyears, the Wildpeaks or Toyo Open Country AT3s.
Keep the Videos coming - I have since gone from my WK2 to a Willys Gladiator but still respect WK2's (they are way more capable than they look/people give them credit for) - would be awesome to join Prodigal Overland on one of these trips in my gladiator (already completed Peters Mill Run in VA - with less than 250 miles on my new Gladiator).
We are heading to the east coast next!
@@ProdigalOverland I definitely want to join up
I run Falken Wild Peak AT3's on my '18 GC Trailhawk. And KO2's on my '98 TJ.
Have the Wildpeaks... very happy.
I have the Falken Wildpeak AT3W 265/65/18 on a 2017 Hemi TrailHawk. Came standard with the Goodyear Adventure with Kevlar but I like the Falken AT3W much better!
Much better how: off road performance? Daily driving? Both?
@@billfrigo7602 both, but more so off Road!
The guy in the green one could definitely work on his throttle control. I would guess he wouldn't have spun so much if he didn't gun it all the time
I have read on the T4R forum about Falken wild peaks have some balancing issue more often so I think i'd go with Toyo or Nitto or Yokohama
So around the 4:30 mark made me curious, have you ever considered adding a front camera? I have an install guide I could share on the Trailhawk FB group if so. Love watching these vids, keep up the great work!!
It definitely would help in those kind of situations. Maybe one day! I saw the new models have them!
Another excellent video
Seems as though the ko2 slipped a lot more than the falkens on the other 2 vehicles.
Ya I think so as well.
How did the Willys do the things it did in WW2 with those skinny knobby tires?
I didnt notice that much difference in tires but hard for me to judge from here. I’ve never run Falkin but my JLUR came with BFG’s. I did Fins, Poison Spider and another trail with it new and stock. They did well. Shortly after , I switched the BFG’s to my 2014 Silverado. I dont like them in mud or on wet pavement. Even on dry pavement they are pretty easy to spin and I dont run but 33 lb of air in them. Wont be buying those when they are worn out...
Thanks for the feedback!
KO2's were screaming for traction more than the one with stock tires
Kinda thought you would weigh in on the subject seeing as you were there .. and the title was posed as a question, like you were gonna answer the question..
My general feeling on this topic is get a set of AT or MT tires that you like and can afford. Then go have fun. I can see small differences. But in general things like the vehicles 4x4 system, weight, and driver’s skill make much more of a difference out on the trail.
Interesting video, comparing tire performance! In order to be able to give a fair opinion, one would need to know if they were all aired down to the same PSI? Did everyone have comparable equipment and use the same settings on the computer settings? Did all have the same tire size? How about skills like left foot/right foot, throttle control and experience on the trail?
Over all, every vehicle and driver got to the end of the trail with no major problems. Perhaps, all of the choices for tires were pretty good for the circumstances of this comparison. Any differences seemed minor to me.
Yeppers
So incredible!! Can’t wait to do this one day
You should!
You have a hemi in that or a 6?
we have the Semi
Brad, and Mike in the green have hemis. Ours has the v6. We towed a 5500# travel trailer from Des Moines, through the Colorado mountains and passes on this 3500 mile trip. The v6 had to work to get up some the hills. On the trails?.. no problem at all! If one is not towing, personally, the v6 more than holds its own.
I have the Toyos on my 20" rims. Haven't been out yet, but soon.
Ok. So which tires were best from each of the drivers’ perspectives?
I know roan was happy with his stock set up. I’d guess we were all happy with what we had. They all got us through what we needed to do!
I have 265/65 nito ridge grapplers on my wk2 I've always wondered how they would compare
those are good tires as well!
Well, you asked an interesting question in the title then didn't offer any opinion or discussion on it...
It didn't look like tires made any difference. Is that your opinion?
Generally I don’t find a huge difference in tires. Unless it’s super muddy
Were all vehicles using the Quadra-drive 2 system or was any using the Quadra-trac 2?
Everyone had Quadra drive on this one
@@ProdigalOverland I have a 2012 gc and it has the quadra-trac 2 system I am starting to modify it for off road use. You guys have some great tracks there that look like alot of fun although I think some of the tracks in Australia would give you a challenge
Question: are all GC trailhawks coming with the QDII ?
yes
2:14
oh god what the f
Hey Brad, what was the music used at the beginning of the video?
I use Artlist for the music. Royalty free. you want
the song was "if you want" by Leva
which drive mode were you guys in mostly ?
We were mostly in mud mode on this one.
Maria did the first obstacle the best outa all y'all. Nice and easy. I still have the stock gy on my jgc trailhawk. I'm not a big fan. I had ko2 on my old jgc and wasn't a fan of those either... they are over rated... and it seemed they did the worst out of all of them in this video.