Sailing Development Progress Update | Milestone 1: Navigation
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- čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
- Ahoy there! We’re thrilled to be sharing a much-awaited progress update on Sailing, Old School RuneScape’s first new skill. The team have been busy implementing navigation, making player boats move seamlessly through Gielinor’s open ocean. For more details, check out our blog here! osrs.game/Sailing-M1-Update
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Is Ned going to be the Skillcape NPC for sailing?
He has to be
he better be
pls jagex im begging you ned deserves this
Obviously
They've mentioned him giving it in the Q&A's. But who knows until it's live.
Take all the time you need team
0:58 “Keep going! You’re good! You’re good”
"Dont worry, Captain! We'll buff out those scratches."
Awoooo
Ahhhhh
Leedle leedle leedle lee
I think if you guys are diligent and bring in testers for feedback quite often you guys can pull it off - it clearly won’t be easy with this community
Very true, it has already been a year and I won't mind it being two more if it means it will be an absolutely great addition to the game.
Sailing doesn't belong in osrs
@@PowhaBottom care ta share why u believe that?
@@PowhaBottom cope and seethe while me and me crew are plunderin the seas havin a blast 🏴☠🦜
@@PowhaBottom Sailing belongs in osrs
It's going to look funky when like 20-30 ships are all at that one salvage spot.
The ship wrecks could be instanced
Already looks funky when 20-30 players are at any resource node. But they’ve stated that only a limited number of ships would show at a time as one possible solution
They don't want to instance it @@SouthernWolff
@@Jon-cw8bb fair enough, I was just just saying they could be.
They could have no collision locations, and have ships go semi transparent when overlapping
Finally you can actually trim in game.
Trimming sails 1M
What do you mean I been trimming armour since 2007
@@iamlegend3276 If you had done it in 2004 during the week the treasure trail update hit you'd have made killing by convincing f2p noobs they needed spinach rolls to trim armor. The buy in price was 9.5-11.5m for the cheapest guthix kite to look the part and well spinach rolls you got for free anyway. Sold plenty for 100k ea. ;)
I will finally be able to appeal my 2005 banned account
why trim
I want a Dragon boat.
Third age boat. Requires a third age naval design that you gain scraps of from rare cargo drops.
@@coyotetracker1 yes but the chance to get them is 1/200k
Barrows gloves? Barrows boat!
Barrows boat from the sailomancer
you get the left half as a drop from salvage at 1/2,000,00 or 1/69420 with ring of wealth. buy right half for 750,000,000 Gp from klarense
I'm glad it's not being rushed and actually taking the time to make it good
"Make it good" what a joke
@@PowhaBottomcringe
This looks good to me, not sure what your deal is. @@PowhaBottom
The devs working on this seem very passionate and excited about this project. Makes me smile to see people who love what they do sharing their passion with us
Honestly! And looks like its going well in my opinion!
For me I think this will make the world feel small, because in reality it is. They only reason we felt it is big was because we couldn't actually see the other islands or anything and trips to other islands seemed a big deal (take dragon slayer for example, it seemed like you traveled quite far).
This feels like turning on noclip and flying around the map... ruins many things.
I heard them mention before they would be adjusting the distances between some islands to account for it
This sailing looks terrible... People only wanted it as a meme
@@koenwijnen8278 nah i want sailing because it has the highest potential of the other skills proposed, and will create the most new content. If youre hating on the concept of new old school content, then dont sail.
Speaking of draw distance, most players already use the max draw on the GPU plugin of Runelite, but making it even further would be a huge update
Mobile has an increased draw distance slider also
I don't. It makes my PC crash
who is most players? i love it when people lie to fit a narrative
@@Tuzzz94 upgrade your PC then bozo, crashing from a game like OSRS is embarrassing.
@@lilpullout every one of my mates including myself maxes it out so from my perspective it also looks like most
They really put a green pixel on the 73 hit xdd
I’m old enough to have seen a lot of Jagex’s “great ideas” turn to huge mistakes. But people can’t fathom others being skeptical?
did you forget that right before launch there will literally be another poll asking "should we release it as is?"
Can you repoll it? I think a lot of peoples' votes would have changed after forestry
Shamanism looking better and better.
it actually is and will be. but you cant outmass the dumbos
Really reaching. If you pull this off and the community approves, I’ll be impressed.
The same people that want it passed are the same people begging for free xp lamps to get it over with faster. 😂
Take the time to get it right! If your delay to it right it’s delayed for some time, if you have a bad launch, it’s remembered as a bad launch forever!
Ned better be the skillcape holder!
Will you be opening up more map space around or spacing out the continents a little bit to add room/scale for sailing?
Imagine all the bugs this is going to cause on launch
Was part of a bug that gave 2m fishing xp hr was patched in 30ms
It’ll be fantastic
@@hardup9809 30 milliseconds? Damn
I remember when this skill was an april fools joke 😂
in RS3 it still is and even has a joke quest written around things like that
I loved getting 99 Benchsitting though!
wish it was a joke, because it looks like a joke
It should’ve stayed as a joke. This skill serves no purpose to the game whatsoever.
@@zach071591Like firemaking, what's your point?
What would the main reason to get 99 sailing? What and how would it benefit runescape?
What would the main reason be to get 99 firemaking? What and how does it benefit Runescape?
@coldwave2774 firemaking was one of the first skills. Itd be pretty darn sad to have another skill that does nothing after all this time. Lol
@@tixerr8373 nothing? the potential with sailing far surpasses any skill they could of added lol.
@@RDB33 I really liked the skilling equivalent of Slayer much, much more than this.
Originally, the devs never expected anyone to get to 99 on anything. It's nowhere near required to enjoy the game and no one expects you to reach that milestone with any skill because of the time sink.
Sounds like treasure hunting. Y’all might as well make it a pirate skill and make it so you can do battles with ships and upgrade them to massive stuff frigetes ect. You should be able to have a pirate crew and have unlocks for cannons, upgrade rooms on ships ect. This skill is unlimited if y’all put in the work.
Now if we get a new version of sea shanty 2 with the skill, that would be epic
how could you possibly want a new sea shanty 2 when the current version is literal perfection
Or we could stop running the same song into the ground over and over again
@@evghbbut consider, sea shanty 3
Would it be Sea Shanty 3 or Sea Shanty 2 2?
Sea Shanty III: Raise thy Anchors
I don't understand how this would even work in a crowded area. are ships going to just be clipping into eachother? are people not
going to be able to go out into the water because on day 1 it's going to be swarmed with people
Have you ever been on GE? Clipping never was a problem in RS, dude.
I have never been so disappointed in being a Osrs player than I have now, this should have stayed as an April fools joke and that's it. I Hate all the people that brainlessly voted yes to this garbage skill
The voters will all regret it
Quit playing and quit crying. Go play some private server or whatever. New optional content you don't want doesn't mean the game's ruined.
Looks fun but I'm very worries about how this will look with even a handfull of ships, am I even going to be able to see the water?
ocean is pretty big, if you consider on release, it will be crowded, and that will be funnier, not worst, just ppl talking shit
I doubt youll see others
@@BTChanOSRS The chaos of a new skill releasing is so much fun. I haven't experienced that since farming, lol.
@@batstewart coulda on rs3 with necromancy.
@@whynotp2p rs3 doesn't exist to me 😂
I hope you add a OSRS version of Easter Island in the future. Would be cool to have this mysterious island with giant sculptures that potentially awake into dangerous foes.
And a tribe of people hiding from them in caves or underground or something. Would make for a cool quest
Likely won't happen cuz rs3 already has that and we all know the osrs community gets an automatic kneejerk reflex when it comes to anything that is also in rs3.
Not me thinking of the island from the last Easter event trying to remember where the giant faces were 😂
@@user-bx4hc1bj5c half the updates we get are just rs3 backported content with names changed. something like that thats just cool and not ezscape would easily get voted in
@@whiteguar6757 a lot of things that are being said are "rs3" aren't even close to what rs3 has. The only thing that's backported nowadays are quests and soul wars. Pretending a lot is rs3 related or backported is just exaggerating.
For example i've seen people argue varlamore colloseum is the same as rs3 dominion tower in a way. It's called confirmation bias. If it has a whiff of the same mechanics/structure they automatically assume it's rs3 content with some tweaks. If we were to act like this we could make an argument about anything in osrs even on the clean boot where ideas were copied from other games/franchises.
Does this have its place in the game or not be honest
Nope, not as a skill at least
make it a minigame, but as a skill, i fear it will be a start of ruin for osrs
Yes it does. It’s very exciting. If any new skill was as simple as previous skills it wouldn’t get any votes.
@@CloudCollapse no it doesnt. jagex had to rig the polls just so it could pass
not like this. it seems extremely boring and tedious to level up like this. Finding shipwrecks or a random chest on a small isle. If it is going to be like this, it's going to be one of the most boring skills to train.
Make it a mini game to train all the skills we already have
more a mini game than anything. doesnt even fit the world size like u can see in the video
they really got a employee sitting there deleting negative comments about sailing all day... how sad!
Honestly, I'm glad you're taking as long as you are. The movement was my personal biggest barrier to the idea of sailing. If the fundamental feeling of sailing is bad, all the rewards in the world wouldn't make me like the skill, so I think investing a lot of time up front on the foundation of movement/navigation is the correct way to do things. Hope it's smooth sailing from here.
I'm so thankful for the way they are going about this.
Taking their time, keeping us updated, and going really in depth about what the skill can offer.
I can't wait to explore the seas and find all sorts of treasure and new PvM and skilling activities.
I hate that this passed, still.
it didnt pass. no skill on the poll reached the 70% . it . didnt. pass.
Is it me or does this feel more like a quest/minigame than a skill?
yeah
Its you
It is not only you.
My first though. This looks like a minigame (and not a good one). I cannot even imagine grinding to 99 using the current "systems" they have in place. Looks so clunky..
Dung had a lot more of flak back in the day because it felt so limited when launched. Here you will prolly have yhe whole world of content at launch and several activities to do. It's transformative, it's different enough to not look like a quest.
So is the graphics update still coming out or has it been cancelled?
I always thought " were going to get a sailing skill" was a joke, at least I always hoped it was.
Agreed. The fact they are going ahead with this game wrecking content is the biggest joke
@@marty4384in what way will it wreck the game, in your opinion?
@@marty438472% support, cry about it
@@Solon_Ghebauser It likely won't but that doesn't mean its a good idea. Time spent on this takes away from other potential updates. Also, don't be surprised that a 20 year old player base is skeptical of big updates. We've seen alot of fails over the decades.
@@Solon_Ghebauserin what way will it benefit the game in your opinion?
I don't think this can ever look good with the tile-based movement system RuneScape uses.
me too... i think it would look great with a tile-based system where you boat paths to the tile
It can feel good to play though, despite looking janky at times. Haven't you ever played anything older than Rs? There were plenty of awesome janky games in the 90's and 80's... like Sid Meier's Pirates, y'know up there as one of, if not the best sailing / pirate game made to this day.
@@Silent_Depths Sid Meier's Pirates sailing actually looks pretty decent. Far better than what is shown here. But who knows how this will look on release, it could be decent but so far it looks horrendous to me lol.
@@LoadingMeerkat I hope they get the feel of it right on release, but I won't mind fixes and adjustments later on. As long as sailing retains the Osrs character and isn't over designed for its purpose, it will be fine. (In other words - not too many new user interfaces loaded with information and not too complicated gameplay loops restricting player freedom of exploring all things related to the skill.)
At this stage of development things are not going to look polished or anywhere near playable, but I see the potential and what the dev team is trying to achieve. Maybe that's because I've worked on software development in past and know how it goes.
Bro literally nothing in this game looks good.
idk this looks boring, hopefully theres more to it
It’s a pre-alpha, of course there’s more. They’ve put out tons of blogs showing the numerous features, training methods, and activities they have planned
Why not combine sailing with shamanism. We could enter one of those pocket dimensions initially proposed, where we sail in unexplored oceanic world(s) that have aspects of shamanism. The catch is that you can't teleport inside the portals except to get to a lobby area that then connects you where you started to return to main Gielinor world.
First comment I see with the most sense and an actually idea. Yes, I like that one.
That’s crazy that Hozier is a Senior Concept Artist for OSRS
I retire when this goes live
Just retire now 🤷♂️
@@Maybe_Tom_Cruise naw I have faith after reading all the like minded comments, that maybe jagex can also read and scrap this shit show ;) I hear you can go try pirates online…
@@goldslaya I don't play osrs.
Just don’t play it, it’s really not that deep.
Take your time guys. We've waited 20 years. We can wait another 20
Can we get a version of the game called "Old Old School RuneScape" (OOSRS) starting with a snapshot right now?
fully with you on this
I hope you all regret voting for this "skill"
the 50 IQ "people" who voted for this "skill" wont know it till it releases and its sh1t
I really hope you there's going to be a way/option to allow your ship to coast in a direction, I feel like having to not only constantly click your next visible navigation spot but _also_ constantly click to trim the sails is going to get kind of annoying after a while. That way you'd only have to click the water to turn your boat if you need to and you can focus more on operating/skilling other things while on your boat (it would also make it feel more like you're actually piloting a boat too).
crew=auto pilot, likely
Crew can also trim the sails
Crew = no xp drop :P
This is exactly what I'm talking about.. this is what's going to make people hate this more than agility or runecrafting or any other skill u have to constantly be running around.. its just boring and annoying
They already confirmed that this is on their radar some time ago, don’t worry
This is either going to be really cool or flop instantly. I hope the devs really take their time and do this well.
Every person that voted for this will regret it.
@@maverick7037 All 25% of the playerbase, the real people who will regret this will be jagex when they realise that rigging the poll was a massive mistake
I love how transparent and frequent these updates are. Don't be dissuaded by people who don't understand what an alpha is or how much things can change in development!
poh dock?
If that skill Cape isn't changed to Navy Blue I will be very upset
Agility skill cape?
@@asta4412 there are only so many colors but this one has to be navy blue
@@frickinfrik along with sea foam white for the trimmed version
Or just poo brown cuz the skill is absolute shit
They really went head over heels with the puns. This whole skill is a giant pun. What of the other methods that require traveling by boat and when is an appropriate time to train the train? Are we talking right off the bat of Tutorial Island with sailing mains and is it going to require combat experience? What happens if a player lamps it to 99?
Looks like a bunch of chores to do
Looks like OSRS you mean?
Its a minigame skill is all i see 😢
Obviously it needs a lot of work but seems the devs understand that unless it's a full skill at launch then people will hate it. I like the ideas so far though
Unless it is not a skill and becomes some other form of additional content, i.e a minigame, questline, etc, then people will hate it*
Is there any way for us to go about applying for this closed alpha testing?
i thought this fail the vote
we could only wish
I still think this thing is an april fools joke
hope they add traveling that randomly generates an ocean or island as a form of dungeon
that would be cool
We got this over Taming or Shamanism?
The summoning hatred runs deep
I really enjoyed summoning as a kid and feel was super usefull my pakyak an extra 30 slots
Guess ill just look forward to Old School Old School Runescape at some point after all this.
fully with you. time to take a big great break
thanks for the updates yall
Can we get a Soggy Baguette from the salvage crates?
What happens if try to sail to crandor if you haven't completed dragon slayer?
The team is going to *have* to figure out an instance system for Sailing. The waters aren't big enough for even 10 players to all have massive ships converged on a single area.
Imagine Ports.
It's a neat idea, I like sailing as a concept, I voted for it, but there are some serious considerations with the current direction of the Skill.
Assuming you need to utilize construction to build certain things on your ship, does this mean that player owned homes will have a feature where you can create a dock for your ship and edit it like you would your POH?
I'd like if they made a floating POH out at sea
@@dotti1203 Yep, and with POH teleport just being a right click to decide between house/dock
I think before you guys release it each mod should grind it until 99 first
Just to avoid releasing a boring/slow skill like agility, or too click intensive like thieving/hunter/construction
This is completely fair, if I have to grind a 35khr skill ima be so.mad
Love the potential for this.
Give us a good, detailed ship combat system. Different cannons, loadouts, PvP, etc. make positioning matter.
I think the potential to “infuse” special attack weapons into the cannons would be an amazing item sink (I.E. imbue a cannon with a dragon warhammer to give it a unique special attack).
I would also love the capability to build a dock at my POH, where my ships could be stored.
This stuff probably won’t happen, but I would love to see them float some creativity with this release!
Regarding the draw distance, is there anything wrong with adding options for draw distance similar to those in RuneLite? Maybe a preset "short" distance (which is the current default for OSRS players), medium (which could be farther) and long (even farther still)? Of course, entities like other players, NPCs, and the like would only appear within the range of "short."
EDIT: Realized that I forgot to say: really happy with what I'm seeing so far! By all means, take your time! I look forward to seeing the technical alpha! And don't worry, I know that alphas aren't supposed to be the "perfect finished product" ;)
how do u fit 2000 ships there
That wont happen. Maybe on release but thats already accounted for.
Once the skill is released, I hope we get future updates that allows us to customize our ship colours, including the sails.
Still cant believe theyre making an old playground rumor real
guys you need to rethink sailing
The update only the noobs devs wanted
ok i will definitely come back playing with this update its been years
Don't rush this, just make it good and keep giving updates!
This content looks really cool, (and I don’t mean to be a jerk just genuinely asking) why can’t this just be content? Why does it have to be a skill? It feels like all the things that might be possible on a sailing ship could instead give xp in other, current skills and then I can’t see anyone that wouldn’t be excited about the new content
Because we voted for it to be a skill 4head.
Agreed. Like I can't see the huge difference of lower or higher levels in sailing, I get that it unlocks certain things, but those things are targeting other skills... like what exactly will sailing have that will be sailing only, new boats and islands doesn't quite grab me. 90 % of people will probably rush the 99 and walk away
What is anybody losing by making this a skill? I don't understand the negative feedback, considering it was polled and doesn't take anything away from the core experience of the game. If someone doesn't want to deal with sailing, they can choose not to participate.
Because sailing is an actual skill irl? It's something you start off as a learner and slowly progress your ability to eventually master. How is that any different from firemaking, cooking, fletching, thieving, woodcutting... literally any skill in the game?
Here's a better question, what's the problem with a real skill being a skill in the game? While you can use other skills while sailing, there's still a ton of actual sailing only progression. Learning to use new ships, learning to explore more dangerous waters, learning to utilize ship combat better, learning to race, learning to plunder shipwrecks, getting better and delivering more difficult cargos, etc, etc, etc. There are also plenty of cases of previous skills crossing over one another. I don't understand why attaching the word 'skill' to a piece of content makes everyone lose their minds. Especially one that is very clearly a skill by every definition of the word.
@@ricksanchez5595 "90% of people will rush the 99 and walk away"
Congrats, you described 3/4 of the skills in osrs.
I feel like this skill is a bit too ambitious, perhaps should have just been a minigame or something
At first i didn't like the new sailing skill and yes i voted for shamanism but now seeing updates of the pre-alpha it's starting to look really amazing and this is coming from a osrs veteran i can't wait to start sailing this will be interesting and fun keep up the good work guys no rush getting the skill i don't think anyone wanna deal with game bugs
The only way this skill will work is if the rewards are well worth it. If all we’re getting is fish and feathers and things like that rip sailing lol
i still can't believe this is actually going to be a 'thing'
i still cant believe this is real.
I hope Sailing introduces training methods that combine with other skills like Fishing. I hate training Fishing, not a fun skill to train. Doing it alongside Sailing might make it more bearable.
how is sailing gonna help or be incorporated into the main game activities
ill be honest. I genuinely really dont like how sailing is looking.
Maybe im a doubter and it will be fine. but It just, i dont like it? ahh yes' let me luff my sails and do fetch quests, but as a skill. :/ I just, I don't know what to do with this.
If the team had any sense whatsoever, they would scrap this whole concept of sailing.
so sailing is actually coming...
I cant imagine that because it CLEARLY didnt pass the vote before and if they repoll it just press No again. they are making such a scene out of it thinking this is final and everything.
Really looking forward to the open alpha!
So will the game crash when hundreds of people are on a ship in the same spot
does that happen any other time? no? okay then
This stat has no place in this game. Doesnt work either
Thank you team! Glad you are taking your time with this.
How do i get my runepouch back after deleteing it in emirs arena? its not in the search
I hope that sailing works but looking at it at the moment, my ADHD brain has lost interest in sailing
This one is best left in the drafts
Im interested in how sailing will interact with old content. For example dragon slayer and lunar diplomacy. Certainly they're huge parts of those quests, but it could be tricky making skill requirements when so many people have already completed them without the skill.
Thanks for the progress update!
All these sailing puns are killing me
i regret voting yes
Rip shamanism
I voted no, sailing has minigame aspects that shouldn't be a skill, we're looking at dungeoneering with extra steps
I do too, but it was the best of three bad choices
@noahhertel4098 i fell like shamanism would be better
I voted no.
so stoked for sailing boys
the idea of the skill is just so whimsical, it invokes a child-like joy to imagine sailing the water after so many years remembering rumors back in the day for the skill.
this is the greatest game.
no.
Finally you do it again as with rs3 is within 2 years this game is dead
Hopefully it's not a 400 hour skillcape
Best Devs ever!. Listen to and involve players in decision making, and very upfront with what’s going on behind the scenes. Kudos! 🎉