TWICE EXCEPTIONAL - Giftedness, Talent and Disability with Dr. Dan Peters | Ingenious Baby
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 5. 09. 2020
- In this interview, Dr. Dan Peters, psychologist, author, co-founder, and Executive Director of the Summit Center will explain what it means to be twice-exceptional, how to test for it, and what you can do to support your 2e child.
There is a debate within the education field on whether gifted and talented programs should be separated. Dr. Dan Peters discusses the difference between the two, explaining that that giftedness is when a person has advanced cognitive potential in one or more areas. Whereas, talent is when a person is actually showing their aptitude, skill, or thinking in specific areas such as advanced math, robotics, or writing.
Being gifted and talented is a good thing, but this doesn't mean that you can do everything well or that everything will come easy. This is often surprising for parents to learn as many people assume that giftedness is always associated with high performance. Yet it is possible for a learning disability to overshadow giftedness. There can be giftedness in one subject, such as math, but a learning disability that affects performance in other areas of the curriculum. Some gifted children with great potential may also have a disability such as dyslexia, dyspraxia, dysgraphia, ADD, ADHD, and autism, that they struggle with and this is known as being twice-exceptional.
Dr. Peters will give you some insight on how to identify your kid as 2e (or twice-exceptional) and what you need to do to support them.
The Summit Center provides psychological and educational services for children and families, including assessments, consultation, and counseling.
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As a person who is very intelligent, but also very crazy, who was basically left to raise myself and now live what I can only call a wasted life, this really hits hard.
Iâm a twice exceptional Profoundly Gifted person who has no collegiate certifications and who barely graduated with a high school diploma. Itâs insane to see media depictions of âGeniusesâ as being these wunderkind who were identified early in childhood and rapidly advanced in their education to suit their intellectual needs. Having a history of mental illness, having emotional profundity thatâs sometimes out of the realm of control, being an ethnic minority, and having interest that are foreign to most people especially age peers and community peers. I was in special education for the entirety of my high schooling and did not learn what 2e or Profoundly Gifted was until I was nearing my thirties (Iâm 32). I have horrible mental math skills which sometimes make it hard to be a cashier (I found out I was inadvertently doing the inverse of whatever function I needed to do in my head) yet can converse in multiple languages and analyze situations and people far more than others around me. I remember other peoples lives better than my own yet misplace everything I own that isnât bolted down lol. I have very low patience for authority, I hate hypocrisy to a degree that I begin hating myself for being human, and my emotions are felt so deeply that I usually get branded as being illogical even though I think critically and in an interdisciplinary way whereas others are wanting. I piece disparate events together to teach my students that I tutor holistically and to look beyond the surface. How to see patterns in governmental foreign policy from Iran Contra affair, the United States involvement in the Afghan-Soviet conflict, and now with the Ukrainians. I then dissect each event and follow the trajectory to events that are pertinent today such as the crack epidemic and violence amongst African Americans and in the case of our supplying weapons to the Mujihadeen the subsequent formation of the Taliban and the 9/11 attacks due to Osama Bin Ladenâs involvement in the conflict. This type of interconnected thinking is a deficit in itself when your mind is making connections that it takes others years and access to higher education to come to. Even describing my mental process sounds like self aggrandizement when In actuality itâs a lamentation. I have to seek fulfillment in things that most people find weird or simply donât understand. I think people need to understand that these gifts come with deficits in the form of loneliness and stigma. Gifted folks are akin to Prometheus being chained to a mountain and chastised for eternity for providing fire to humanity, or even Icarus flying to close to the sun with wax wings. Thank you for your content :) itâs beneficial and needed!!
Holy shit. Thank you for sharing this. You have put into words my lifelong struggle. I cannot get over how eerily exact this whole comment describes me and in such specific ways. I am having a hard time finding the words bc I know it would never adequately describe the kinship I feel with you right now. Thank you so much for expressing yourself (as well as myself). Wait are you me? Hehe
I'm the third one. Gifted + ADHD here. Like Carolyn says this comment is crazy specific, like describing the complex net my mind makes when understanding the world through a historical/cultural/socio/political way, with added emotional profoundity and compassion to it. Actually I think we should get in contact, I do realise I'm lacking contact with my own species đ and I don't go for it partly because it would give me a needed validation that my own shame and years of masking and shrinking don't allow me to receive
Hey thanks for your comment! I'm in the process of getting checked out for autism but I came across the term twice exceptional tonight and it feels like when i discovered autism and everybody seemed a lot more like me in the autism community only like zooming in to the next level of discovery. That's awesome you can do so much with languages, and that's funny your brain tries to switch the numbers around on you. I feel like that happens to me but with syllables haha I'm talented in language as well but in forming and understanding abstract languages and deeper meanings and symbolism so I prefer to express myself on the guitar. I'm 30 btw so guess we're finding out about all this in a similar time of our life.
OMG. I just looked into my own mind...this is wonderful...s
PG, Autistic, ND, disabled, cPTSD, deeply traumatised, SPD- Iâm 58 and still figuring out how to create a life that truly works for me.
Being 2e is sometimes like being an Olympic runner with a broken foot or itâs like making a doctor defend someone in court, seen as very smart by my peers, struggling in school but not struggling in more difficult subjects, barely not failing art, everybody thinks Iâm the next Picasso because I sometimes hyperfocus on not doing my schoolwork and instead draw hyper realistic portraits of class mates, perfect scores in double advanced math, almost failing basic English. I can go from showing super advanced comprehension to not understanding anything, sometimes Iâm the next reincarnation of Siddhartha Gautama, sometimes Iâm freaking out crying and being irritable because someone interrupted me
Iâm usually not sitting just messing around with random stuff, like can I please get a personal assistant that just keeps me off autopilot and from impulses but also can bring me outside so I can go for a run after near falling asleep in class
Yes, you fit into this category nicely. What grade are you in? Have you been identified at your school?
More like being an acrobat in a world of long distance runners. Canât keep up, but handily runs off road, over obstacles and arrives at the destination long before the runners only to be told they failed because they didnât follow the prescribed route.
â@@rgfs71hahaha lol thats a nice one
I'm not diagnosed with ADHD, but I'm starting to relate to a considerable amount of traits. The biggest issue for even beggining to consider I might be ADHD is simply that I always did great in school. For the first years I was deeply interested in all subjects and got good grades, was able to focus and I participated actively in class. Final years of middle school I was not interested anymore, I couldn't focus, I wrote endless stories and waited for class to be over. I would procrastinate until late at night before a test, take in months worth of information in a couple hours and succeed. So my attention dropped, but my grades didn't. And then, throughout highschool, I noticed that no matter what I did, I could not bring myself to complete a task on time, and I struggled tremendously to endure long term projects, such as studying for an exam that determines if you'll get into college in my country (you study for it during the entire year, and it covers basically everything you've ever learned in school) so I couldn't possibly study it all in a couple nights and be done with it. But I was still up there at the top part of rankings, so it was a matter of trying a little bit harder right? Well, it's scary for me to realize I function under my actual potential because I can't seem to get things done. I can write and obsess over something for hours straight but if it is to study a subject I know for a fact I'm more than capable of understanding, I feel so overwhelmed I can't even start. I've developed intense anxiety and perfeccionism, and I thought my inability to do stuff was related to lazyness or depression, but even when I'm happy and apparently motivated, it only lasts for so long. But again, I'm still slightly above average in some aspects that can be quantified, so it's not like anyone notices I struggle. It's like playing chess against myself, losing and winning overlapping in a constant state of chaos. But again, not diagnosed.
Four years of special Ed here (couldnât count past â7â at 6 years old, couldnât read until 11 years old, never properly diagnosed, still struggling) and now Iâm a grad student doing research in a field that requires both dense theory reading and advanced statistical modeling. The quote by this doctorâs 3rd grader client has me in tears! âSpecial Ed and school just find what youâre bad at and make you do it over and over again.â I paraphrase.
Wow the empathy this doctor speaks with us touching, I wish my gifted younger brother had been screened when he was young. He severely lacked support in both key areas and grew isolated, depressed, anxious and very angry. He has since distanced himself from the family and joined the military. To this day, I know no one with even a tenth of his mental stamina and flexibility.
My son is 2e and he has autism. It is not easy but not hard to raise him. He is very sweet and loves to kisses. He has very good memories math, spelling and language. He also loves the music. Things are very easy for him that most people find itâs hard on them but stuffs that easy and simple for the most people seem hard for him. He knew all his Times Tables, Periodic Elements, 100 digets of Pi for a 5 years old. But itâs so hard for him to tie his shoes, he need to work very hard on it for many months. Now he is so obsessed with planets and galaxy đ. His language and social is behinds. I am trying to support him as much as I can with a lot of â€ïž.
Reading your comment,It feels We are in the same boat with regards to our daughter.
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I am so glad that I am not alone. â€ïžđ
He sounds like an exceptional child with many gifts!
This is eye opening, I was diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder at late age because it wasn't a thing in 90's or early 2000's. As an adult I found myself able to comprehend complex reasoning and logic, and see issues and resolve them at outstanding rate. Not to mention I could be giving a topic and create a whole story with complex characters and plots in minutes. When comes to music, I found myself able to notices when levels are off and things are out of phase (often why I can't do live concerts) and I'm able to remember songs and artist from childhood. I was always told that this was not typical behavior of autistic children but was never given a explanation of why it was or what it could be. So typical me I started researching and after 15 years I came across 2e article in a science journal at work and the light bulb came on. It was all there, all connected and now I don't feel so awkward and different. I feel almost normal now to know there are others like me, that is huge relief.
I am glad you found it useful. It's incredibly comforting to have other like-minded people you can connect with.
Wow. Iâve lived my entire life up until now thinking I was never good enough because I wasnât allowed into the gifted programs at school. Since then, I have talked down to myself, thinking I was not intelligent. Iâm a banking Analyst by trade, Iâm extremely gifted in philosophy and my sense of humour has always been advanced. Iâm *absolutely* 2e! Late diagnosed Aspergers & ADHD (@33).
I cannot thank you enough for helping me in my process of understanding why my life has gone the way it has⊠and that it can get better from here now that I know how to navigate the world better as a 2e/neuro diverse person.
So glad that you found it useful!! I have another interesting interview with Joe Renzulli about 'giftedness' you might find interesting: czcams.com/video/IHbr3aJDi3o/video.html
I've been a middle school teacher for over a decade. I have been known to try to see myself in my students. I was classified gifted early on (spatial and linguistic) but no one caught the ADHD until this year when I started floundering from too much responsibility to handle. Now I can see myself in the 2E kids. I'd never seen myself before but now I can. It's crazy how open my eyes are.
So interesting! Awareness changes everything doesn't it? So great you can use that now to help your own students!
Hi,
Very apt description. I have ADHD, ASD, a language based learning disability, an articulation disorder, and a processing speed deficit. When I went through the diagnostic process, I was certain that I was below average intelligence. (An intelligence evaluation is one of many tests in the process). Normally, the diagnostic process should last approximately 2 days. However, I needed 4 days due to some now obvious reasons.
The golden standard in the United States for an intelligence test is known as the Wechsler test. Intelligence is not solely defined by this test but makes it easy to identify learning disabilities due to its design.
When he explains how strange it is to be on opposite ends of the bell curve, I feel as though it's almost an understatement of how odd/uncommon that is. For that to occur, you must have gifted level scores in one or more of the 4 Intelligence categories while simultaneously having well below average scores in one or more of the 4 Intelligence categories.
I was tested as a child and again as an adult a few years ago. As a child, I was unaware of the purpose of the process, so those scores are lost to time. However, my adult scores utterly baffled me both as a person and as an engineer. (The four categories of the Intelligence test are verbal intelligence, perceptual intelligence, working memory, and processing speed. )
In verbal intelligence and perceptual intelligence, I scored in the high 130s (136 & 138 respectively). In working memory and processing speed, I scored in the low 80s (84 & 82, respectively). For clarity, average or normal would be a score of 100, intellectual disabilities start in the 70s (I'm pretty sure), and genius level intelligence starts around 140s to 160s depending on the metric.
To the non-math people, normally, the 4 categories have a similar value and are usually within about 5 points of each other. The far left of the bell curve are severe intellectual disabilities and the far right of the bell curve are epic geniuses. The center of the bell curve is the average population and the majority of where people end up scoring.
So if you want to know what my scores look like in real life, it this: I received multiple offers from R1 research institutions to pay me to get a PhD at their university (currently attending PhD program in engineering). But at the same time, I cannot break down words by individual sounds, had to learn to read by singing, failed the second grade twice, barely graduated high school, and will not understand what you are talking about unless it's mostly based in literal meaning.
My life is odd but interesting, and I'm happy with it.
I homeschool my 2e kids. While challenging, my husband and I knew from the moment we sat through our first IEP meeting that the school had no idea what to do with our oldest, who is gifted and autistic. So we homeschooled him instead and then all the other kids that followed. For us, it was the best decision for our family and especially our 2e kids.
You sound like a wonderful parent and your children are lucky to have someone who is aware and cares!
Excellent video. Just diagnosed now, and I'm 55, with autism and "giftedness" (146 IQ). I was a very introvert child and bullied by my teacher when I was 5 to 6. Bullied again at 13-14, and by my bosses as an adult. I was the best at drawing and writing, and very good when I studied fashion design. I have worked as an illustrator and a designer, but as I am divorced with two childs, I need money. In Spain, creativity means NOTHING unless you are famous. I struggle with mental health, sensory issues, melt downs and shut downs. I ended up working in a shop and earning only 1.000âŹ/ month. And now I discover that I'm very gifted. Oh, yes. Look at me. đ
This is absolutely valid i am a gifted adult who was underachieving all my life I Q test are not all inclusive to intelligence. I say " genius with a headache" if this was implemented in school it will be so evolutionary
Thanks for sharing your experience. I think now that there is more awareness, educational needs can be modified to fit these exceptional individuals.
I totally agree I am gifted disabled and I cant explain
how my abilities developed
or waned or slowed downed or sped
up but they seem to do this
I am highly sensitive and have clairvoyance with this .
The problem is some ppl
who have come along
don t understand this and treat me like
I should keep up or am quote normal...they are so mean omg !
Also ppl who have no disability have robbed me blind like energy vampires do
and then take credit for everything
I am wanting to learn ASL I know it will help
even though I hear fine Im a TBI ....
so many valid point s I am gifted disabled adult high functioning
compared to where I could be
I am younger looking for my age and creative
I want to learn ASL at this point ..I ve tended to isolate
my way of working out thing s in life was thru feeling I'm a TBI
I became a TBI early in life bad bike accident
theres so many mean ppl in this world
that dont understand ppl with disabilities or gifted ppl
Artist .Musician
I was diagnosed as 2E later in life. I suspect the many physical illnesses I've had since childhood masked the ADHD & Overexcitabilities. I told some people about the ADHD but haven't told a soul about the latter. I fear unrealistic expectations and/or ridicule due to a lack of knowledge, & being as sensitive as I am, I'd rather not go down that road. It can be lonely but maybe that's better than hurt?
Thank you for posting this! So incredibly helpful!
I was diagnosed with ADHD in my early 40âs. I was included in a gifted program while in elementary school based on aptitude tests and teacherâs observations of my intelligence, but my grades were awful. I would have been kept behind a grade each year if it werenât for my apparent intelligence. I struggled through school and made it through to eventually get a Masters in Engineering and and MBA, but none of it came easy. I dropped out of University early on and was only able to resume later when a neighbour wrote to the Dean to vouch for my abilities, quite literally saying I was intelligent but faired poorly in school due to boredom. Itâs a torturous way to live, being constantly recognized for intelligence yet consistently failing to do the things that people tend to value. Iâve gotten by, and done well, by ânot caringâ and periodically doing exceptional things people value. Since learning I had ADHD Iâve managed to fine tune my talents and can objectively speak to my âapparentâ deficiencies, but its a constant uphill battle and I continue to struggle with burnout and depression.
Wow! Thank you for sharing your experience...do you think learning about ADHD earlier would have impacted you in your learning?
I raised a 2e child. This is extremely difficult. Thank God for special education leaders and great psychologists đ
Private schools ABSOLUTELY still fail to identify and handle gifted kids 100%. Iâm in my 20s now, just finishing college (boy has that been a ride). Truth is, I had an IQ/giftedness assessment done before entering preschool/elementary school. Results were very highâŠyouâd think that meant that I would have been singled out for extra assistance considering said private school had a wealth of money and is specifically designed for talented/gifted kids. Except I was not, and simultaneously sucked at multiplication tables while reading multiple grade levels ahead. Of course I got mocked by other students for both my exceptionality and my less than exceptional performance. By the time I reached high school, it was largely too late - I was heavily masking gifted traits and had learned to keep my head down. I had no peer group other than my cross country team and performed distinctly averageâŠlike 3.6-3.7 GPA.
Holy shit guys I found you I thought I was crazy god damm this comment section is so relatable. I didn't even know I could "mask" being gifted, but I sure as hell felt it, did it, do it, and know about it.
The school system did what they're designed to. Make you closer to the mean.
Could you do a video on specifically ADHD and how it effects a child who is exceptionally gifted. My son has an I.Q. of 162 and has adhd and I donât quite understand his perspective. Heâs also 17.
Wow! That is quite an impressive IQ. I like the idea of exploring that specifically as it seems more common these days.
High functioning autistic. I have such keen senses that I was totally overwhelmed as a child, almost crazy, and very withdrawn. In high school I worked at NIH in Bethesda, and tested my vision and hearing. I could see way into the ultraviolet range, and could hear frequencies way above normal hearing levels. The hearing thing is sort of a problem, the vision isn't. Ultraviolet light, on the spectrophotometer, just looked like dark violet, so it is just a color as far as I am concerned. I have lots of emotional and social problems, but also exceptional abilities in music, chemistry, languages, and other subjects. On a practical level, I function, but just barely. I am not a practical person, but am always chasing my latest obsessions down some rabbithole. I have never before heard the term asynchronous development, but have been aware of this in myself all of my adult life. The closest I ever came to being diagnosed was my kindergarten teacher calling my parents and telling them that I "didn't have all my beans." I guess psychiatric lingo has changed since then.
Thank you for sharing your experience. How old are you now?
@@IngeniousBaby I'm 75.
I found school hell because they kept repeating the same stuff for weeks that was clear after they were halfway through the first sentence. The teachers loved to humiliate me when they recognized that I dozed off with questions that were so stupid that I thought it was a trick question and I just said nothing. Now at 54 I recognize that lots of things about ASD resonate strongly đ
I was gifted and number dyslexic and didn't know in my scho years in the 90s
Dan Peters, noted here! Excellent interview.
Its so hard to go thru alone and misunderstood
I was tested at 4 and branded "gifted," so they disregarded the autism. That was over 40 years ago, and I was just diagnosed last year. I never became anything but a disappointment. I have a hard time with the word gifted. Wish I could go back. I struggled my whole life. Guess I'm a late 2e.
precocious development, combined with one-sided deafness. struggling and excelling at the same time: very recognisable. fifty-one years old. hi!
Love this! Yes, our weaknesses can turn into our greatest strengths!
Identified as "gifted" at 7, diagnosed with ADHD at 37: "Twice exceptional" may just be the most poetic way the English language has ever been molded to say "f*%(3d."
Knowledge is power. Once you understand yourself better, you can find ways to really maximize your potential.
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How to know or who diagnose 2e?
My son 4yo on waiting list for autism assessment, he's verbal but not conversational. but he can read since 2,5yo, have strong memorizing and can count to a thousand and writing numbers and some words.
I really lost, he's my first child đą
I have a friend that have a child that can read and wright in both language at the age of 4. (Before even going to school)
I did tell them to look into it, but the school didn't know what to do with him.
What should they do?
What country do you live in? There might be educational psychologists that can help
What about the 6 to now 14 year old that you say ânoâ to viewing certain content online or you attempt to establish family rules with and the child continuously breaks those rules and tries to hide it? Has the emotional moments after being caught. Itâs seems that every ânoâ means âyesâ to the mind of this child⊠Please provide feedback. Thanks,
I liked the talented and gifted (TAG) program growing up. But when I hit 12 and I noticed all the girls who were in the program ⊠found it very confusing. My other issue with TAG was I got annoyed that we had to do work during this time. The way I saw it: why was I being punished because I was smart? I just wanted to play with my friends. Also the program ended before high school⊠my god I could have used help then.
Interesting insight! How were the girls confused?
@@IngeniousBaby I was confused ⊠hormones you see.
Both of my kids are gifted n both have different dad's
What do you do when you are an older person.
I am just finding out now all the complexities of my brain.
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This channel focuses on kids, so I don't have advice. But, just like you would with a 2e child, I would start with a psychologist who can help address some of your challenges.
This is exactly what I have been suffering through.
Yes, having the awareness and meeting others similar are empowering.
Wow never knew i was a 2e student until now
so glad you found it helpful!
As someone who has ADHD, I think the IQ test is really stupid. They give us a shape and ask which one of these answers would fit it, c'mon, we can imagine a thousand patterns for every answer able to match with the question. LOL.
What can someone who is gifted and grew up in a low-income community do as far as learning to navigate life?
Hi Jessica! That is a great question. If your school does not have a gifted and talented program, joining a group like Mesa, might be helpful. Gifted kids (and adults) often have different challenges than their typical peers. Many people with high IQ have a harder time friendships sometimes feeling like they just donât fit in and therefore have a hard time finding a compatible social circle. This provides a great resource to meet other individuals with like-minded interests. You might find this interview with American Mensa's Dr. Frank Lawlis interesting: czcams.com/video/I2KzqrereQ4/video.html
Not sure about navigating life. But finding people who may share your particular interest is much easier now on the internet.
How about directing your videos toward 2e children instead of the parents?
The channel focuses primarily on 0-6 age group (though the topics can extrapolate to older ages) therefore the content is primarily directed at the parents. That being said, we are always open to new topic/story ideas. Did you have something specific you would like to see addressed in another show?
My comfort person wasnât my mother of father. It was my grandmother. You should be informing parents that they may never have a close relationship with their 2e child. The child picks who theyâre close with.
My hometown has a phenomenal tax base and still doesnât have a gifted student program.
That is such a shame! What town do you live in?
Dartmouth, Massachusetts is a joke. Bangor, Maine has the same population, less revenue and a gifted student program since 1992. Dartmouth only cares about perpetuity. Meanwhile, Bangor has 10x as many notable people.
Is it possible that giftedness can be hidden during Young Childhood Like 10 & Younger ? Can it become more present at a later stage like 13 or older?
It depends on your circumstance. Does your child also have a disability (e.g. Autism, ADHD, etc?)
@@IngeniousBaby he has OCD heâs always overthinking which can lead him To Fail on some exams quite poorly but on others he excels hugely , & now he is excelling way past his years . Age 15
@@davelygate4155 Wow! You should consider getting him evaluated so you can be sure to get him the proper education, challenge and support.
Is there any research into what happens in a 2e child when there's abuse in the home?
That's a great question. I assume it would be similar to non-2e child, but I recommend you contact a local psychologist for more information.
@@IngeniousBaby I'll certainly be talking to mine. I'm seeing a lot of information on learning disabilities and 2e, but not much talking about the effects severe depression and complex PTSD can have as well
@@najlepszykrolik I suspect that you don't hear much about this combination as we are in denial of the abuse and/or normalize the abuse in order to survive. We exist in survival mode, we become the drug addicts, the alcoholics, the chronic under achievers, the suicide statistic, the suicide by cop, the sex workers, the drug pushers, the one "people" avoid - we live in the locations that are ignored unless you want something. If we survive all of that we become that quiet advocate for other children acting within our interest areas.
Our life is sh!tty but we can pull things together if we look suicide in the face and commit to living day by day. The people we hang out with also become our protectors but we often don't see it at the time. Maybe we become lucky and find love with a supportive family and can create a better life. Too many of us let suicide walk us down that path, we only hope that next time around is better.
Be that supportive listening person in that child's life, eventually they will thank you.
My 2E ass was in GATE and college preparatory programs majority of my educational life.
While experiencing the symptoms you describe. I got along with certain people, and bullied by many others. I'm a gifted creative and also a gifted thinker. But always been reported as easily distracted
My mom has turned down many offers, for me to skip a grade. And it's super different being black with these things
I've never had an issue making friends, or putting myself out there to interact with others whatever setting I was in.
I am an OT working with 2e kids. They need good/great handwriting instruction early. No child keyboards at 6 or even 7, but by then they have developed low self esteem and poor habits that are difficult to change. Please refer these kids at 4 to an OT that can test visual-spatial-motor skills (most of us) at this age. Then use Handwriting Without Tears from a therapist that has done ALL the trainings. I get great results with kids but I have 20+ years in this area.
i didn't get all that i'm feelin all jelly for them kids lol (i be 19) (aspie) (got kicked out of school even if they knew i was aspergers) (why get kicked out? cos the way that i behaved lol)
Is this the best you can come up with?
@@giftedgreen2152 who you referring to?
Not you.
@@giftedgreen2152 just saying you dont have to be passive aggressive about everything have you heard of non-dualism nope? would have thought so.
Yup that's all me đđđ
Omg me
Have you found strategies that have helped you in learning environments?
Success is not a measure of gifted. William Sidis was not successful in society. But gifted could be measured by deficit in society.
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The description of giftedness is disappointing and inaccurate. There is far more involved and as being gifted I find the information shared to be undermining and stereotypical. Gifted and ASD share many common traits. The information is misleading.
Thanks for your comments. Can you elaborate?
Gifted people are hyper focused and donât have to separate emotion from logic.
I think I am a Neanderthal/Cro-Magnon, mixed homo sapiens race
i like my Neanderthal side more than my Cro-Magnon
but i live with it in peace
@@emileedhouse8367 Live long and prosper fellow humanoid.
IQ test for 4 year old children?
There are not in the original range 4 yr old kids. For some diff. reasons.
Or are your doing R. Hubbard scientology stuff making up "IQ" stats?
I have zero interest in being in sync with people who think with their emotions.
What do you mean by this? This segment focuses on kids who are gifted but struggle in other areas (e.g. aspergers, dysgraphia or other issues) and how to best support them so they can overcome some of these challenges.
I have high functioning autism. For me, nothing is more painful than pandering to peopleâs emotions.