How to Train and Rush a US Marine Division to Guadalcanal

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
  • When the Empire of Japan takes the island of Guadalcanal in the Pacific, they begin construction of an airfield. This airfield would be a danger to nearby Allied shipping if completed, and so the US 1st Marine Division, "The Old Breed", is rushed to the island to take control of it, beginning a long and gruelling campaign for the island. This video looks at how the 1st Marine Division was trained and rushed to Guadalcanal.
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    Lane, Kerry. Guadalcanal Marine. Jackson, MS: University Press of Mississippi, 2004.
    Leckie, Robert. Helmet for My Pillow: From Parris Island to the Pacific. New York, NY: Bantam Books, 2010.
    Rottman, Gordon. US Marine Corps Pacific Theater of Operations 1941-43. Oxford, UK: Osprey Publishing Ltd., 2004.
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Komentáře • 345

  • @CaptainCalculus
    @CaptainCalculus Před rokem +718

    The Marines did a lot of their preperation near where I live in Paekakariki in New Zealand. They had a huge camp and used it to get ready for the Pacific landings, often with live fire. Tragically some died when a landing craft was swamped by a rogue wave. Some of the buildings, the flag pole and the graves are still intact, and they are proudly kept in immaculate condition, and every July 4 and Memorial Day the flag of the US is raised. Brave young men, we thank them all, every one.

    • @dougerrohmer
      @dougerrohmer Před rokem +2

      So, how about going on strike during a war, Kiwi? Are you guys still so uncooperative? Did your grandpa tell you his side of the story?

    • @RadioactiveSherbet
      @RadioactiveSherbet Před rokem +174

      @@dougerrohmer Dude. Knock it off. He clearly shows respect for the Marines. Your badgering is uncalled for.

    • @CaptainCalculus
      @CaptainCalculus Před rokem +84

      @@dougerrohmer those guys were always on strike. Don’t blame me, or my grandfather, we weren’t on strike.

    • @tjmul3381
      @tjmul3381 Před rokem +104

      @@CaptainCalculus Ignore that wanker. He watched this whole video and all he could think of was hating a bunch of working stiffs who were trying to be properly paid for their labor. As we say in the Marines...a hater gotta hate.
      Don't waste another moment of your life even thinking about him. Just march on.
      As a Combat Veteran of the U.S. Marine Corps may I say that I am impressed and humbled to hear of the honorable treatment of the old training base by your people. I hope one day to see this place and pay my own respects to my older Brothers. Again, I say Thank You for taking care of the base, particularly the graves. Semper Fidelis

    • @dougerrohmer
      @dougerrohmer Před rokem +13

      @@CaptainCalculus I'm glad. You have restored my faith in Kiwiness. 😁

  • @manuelacosta9463
    @manuelacosta9463 Před rokem +406

    The Marines performed admirably despite the initial bumps in the road regarding halved training and equipment left behind. The Marines of Guadalcanal are a breed of their own.

    • @goldenhide
      @goldenhide Před rokem +22

      With this comment if you ever wanna talk about mobilizing in a hurry, steaming across the Pacific, picking up a Brigade from the frontlines, and rolling straight into an amphibious landing with only minimal rehearsal and succeeding, the Marine Corps's mobilization for Inchon is an epic story and feat that'd be a perfect Intel Report video to accompany an Intel Room vid about the landing itself.

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 Před rokem +6

      You make a good point Manuel Acosta

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 Před rokem +3

      well it's easy when japanese commanders literally banzai charged even when they were fully stocked on ammunition.

    • @MrMenefrego1
      @MrMenefrego1 Před rokem +6

      @@jason200912 Really, it's "easy"?

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 Před rokem +2

      @@MrMenefrego1 yeah just mow down the zombie horde with a machine gun and fall back when they get close. That's why the japanese had 700 dead with only 40 casualties inflicted

  • @RossOneEyed
    @RossOneEyed Před rokem +60

    Whilst taking Guadalcanal was VERY important, let's remember that the Navy lost over 1000 men during the battle of Savo Island on 8-9 August - almost as many men as the Marines lost during the entire campaign. The Navy battles during the campaign significantly reduced the Japanese forces - and the air losses to Japan were significant. The importance of the total combined arms campaign can never be forgotten.

    • @dr.woozie7500
      @dr.woozie7500 Před rokem +5

      Yep over 5,000 Navy personnel were lost during the Guadalcanal campaign

    • @centurymemes1208
      @centurymemes1208 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Lets see.. after savo.
      Eastern solomons
      Cape esperance
      santa cruz
      Another night battle with the kongos
      And then another night battle with the fast Battleships
      And lastly you have tassafaronga
      And then they left.

    • @minhthunguyendang9900
      @minhthunguyendang9900 Před 4 měsíci

      Nobody forgets the 🇺🇸 Navy at Guadalcanal.
      After beating the Japanese at their
      1st specialty at Midway,
      the 🇺🇸 discovered the Japanese 2nd specialty : night surface battles.
      Yet the 🇺🇸 learnt fast.

  • @stephenwoolley2130
    @stephenwoolley2130 Před rokem +41

    I lived on Guadalcanal for 18 months. The relics and the scars of battle are still there, and the Marines are still honoured there.

    • @Legitpenguins99
      @Legitpenguins99 Před 10 měsíci

      Really? Didn't know that there was a lot of development and housing on that tiny island

    • @eltonyancey6426
      @eltonyancey6426 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Legitpenguins99 It's not that tiny.

  • @bryonslatten3147
    @bryonslatten3147 Před rokem +85

    2:12 The sign behind the recruitment table, "If you can speak, read, or write Japanese report the fact immediately to the First Sergeant" and the obvious need to speak the enemy's language makes the internment of the Nisei all the more insane in hindsight.

    • @fazole
      @fazole Před rokem

      There was a lot of fear of sympathizers. A japanese pilot had crashed on a small Hawaiian island, enlisted the help of a local Japanese farmer and tried to hold the local Hawaiians hostage. The locals overcame the Japanese with a shotgun. Internment wasn't fair or right, but the country was at war with an enemy with a much larger armed force. German spies who operated in the shipyards were quickly routed out by the stevedores and local mafia!

    • @vondantalingting
      @vondantalingting Před rokem +14

      Indeed. Although there were bad eggs, the Nisei were Americans through and through and willing to die for the flag.
      I blame Jim Crowe for this shit.

    • @pudanielson1
      @pudanielson1 Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@vondantalingting It wasn't Jim Crow, which applied to Black America, it was the sense of xenophobia back then fearing they wouldnt be loyal, it was crazy in hindsight because Japanese Americans ouwld have to go on to prove htemselves.

  • @jkull173
    @jkull173 Před rokem +15

    I have my grandfathers journal from his time on Guadalcanal, I reread it every Memorial Day. My dad was 3 when he died and it’s the only thing we have of his.

  • @birdsoup777
    @birdsoup777 Před rokem +6

    Thank you. My Grand dad trained at Perris Island. He was a 1st US Marine division sent to Guadalcanal . Carried the squad automatic weapon (BAR). Received a Purple Heart, hand grenade landed in his fox hole injuring his leg. Showed me the scar when I was 12. It looked like wound up skin pinched in a spiral. He told my older brother, that he fought hand to hand with his entrenching tool. To this day i have his Eagle Globe and Anchor. I have it locked up in a safe. I never want to lose it.

  • @kennethbolton951
    @kennethbolton951 Před rokem +15

    My Uncle Jerry was there, age 17 and went all the way to Iwo Jima, of the group of 250 only 4 made it to the end of the war. He passed away in his forties from Pneumonia and diabetes. Man does not die of old age, sickness or mortal wounds he only dies if he is forgotten. Lets us not forget.

  • @josch5071
    @josch5071 Před rokem +32

    Damn these how to guides are getting specific

  • @rvrschrs64
    @rvrschrs64 Před rokem +16

    My father was in the Second Division but attached to the First for this landing. They had supplies for 3 days but were not resupplied for weeks. They ate captured Japanese food, mainly rice. Through the 6 months on Guadalcanal they used the WWI "03" bolt action rifles. Only in later campaigns were they equipped with the famous M1. Later in the war back at the San Diego base he met a woman Marine, married her and made me. Without the atomic bomb he likely would have been in the invasion of Japan.

  • @George-vf7ss
    @George-vf7ss Před rokem +21

    When my dad joined the Marines right after Pearl Harbor, he was issues a WW1 helmet and an 03 Springfield. They bunked at the Del Mar Racetrack in the horse stalls. He was sent to the 2nd Division. Guadalcanal, Tarawa (first wave) and Siapan. Took a lot to scare that guy.

  • @brianbarney1885
    @brianbarney1885 Před rokem +30

    My dad was 3rd Marine Div 1942-1945. He fought on Guadalcanal, Bougainville, and Guam. When I went to enlist in 1972 he told me if I came home and said I joined the Marines he would knock all my teeth out so the Corps wouldn’t take me😂. He wasn’t kidding- so I joined the Air Force!

    • @Gunnarbentrud
      @Gunnarbentrud Před 10 měsíci +2

      My dad told me the same thing about the army…Usaf vet now

  • @chair2930
    @chair2930 Před rokem +122

    I was in 1st MarDiv in 2011 to 2016; very proud of my history and everything these Marines have done.

    • @dave-d-grunt
      @dave-d-grunt Před rokem +4

      Semper Fi. Alpha 1/5 1975

    • @birdsoup777
      @birdsoup777 Před rokem +2

      My Grandpa trained at Perris Island. He was a 1st US Marine division sent to Guadalcanal . Carried the squad automatic weapon (BAR). Received a Purple Heart, hand grenade landed in his fox hole injuring his leg. Showed me the scar when I was 12. It looked like wound up skin pinched in a spiral. He told my older brother, that he fought hand to hand with his entrenching tool. To this day i have his Eagle Globe and Anchor. I have it locked up in a safe. I never want to lose it.

    • @birdsoup777
      @birdsoup777 Před rokem +1

      Thank you

    • @InspiriumESOO
      @InspiriumESOO Před rokem

      Probably shouldn't be proud of their participation in the invasion of Vietnam.

    • @chair2930
      @chair2930 Před rokem +4

      @@InspiriumESOO I'm double proud of their participation in the Vietnam War.

  • @t5ruxlee210
    @t5ruxlee210 Před rokem +75

    The most crucial part of the initial planning was the allocation of the very scarce fast freighters for the invasion convoy. Every other high priority operation anywhere also "wanted them "yesterday"". The majority of the Japanese force in place starting out were Koreans building the airbase, with minimal skills and equipment when it came to jungle combat. The capturing intact of the well overstocked supply dumps on the first day by the marines would greatly boost the odds in their favor during the long, terrible, fight ahead.

  • @petesheppard1709
    @petesheppard1709 Před rokem +13

    "Helmet for My Pillow" is Leckie's WWII memoir, and is a priceless read for those interested in WWII Marine history.

    • @Joze1090
      @Joze1090 Před rokem +1

      He's also a main character of the miniseries "the pacific"

    • @clamum9648
      @clamum9648 Před rokem

      I got his book and Sledge's "With the Old Breed" after I first saw The Pacific. Great books, great men.

  • @jacobdewey2053
    @jacobdewey2053 Před rokem +20

    For all of the notoriety the battle has in pop culture, a lot of people seem to fail to understand the importance of the battle. The Solomon Islands stand between Australia and the US and Japanese airbases there would be able to effectively cut Australia off from her allies. Failure at Guadalcanal could have potentially forced Australia out of the war (perhaps unlikely but still a possibility) and opened up Allied shipping lanes in the Indian ocean to attack from the Japanese and endangered the supply lines of Allied troops in North Africa (remember that transiting the Mediterranean was too dangerous at this point to be able to supply the British troops in Egypt). Lt. Col. Maxwell wasn't exaggerating when he said it was of worldwide importance.
    It also helped to bleed a lot of the Japanese fleet and their precious oil reserves attempting to resupply it

  • @ramal5708
    @ramal5708 Před rokem +40

    I've read the Helmet For My Pillow book by Robert Leckie several times, a great book and first hand account of being a US Marine prior to and during Guadalcanal campaign

  • @JBolt5812
    @JBolt5812 Před 10 měsíci +3

    The quote by Leckie is really what sums up what differentiates Marines that people do not understand. Most people assume Marines are inherently better at everything and just more "badass". Although generally physical fitness and other skills are higher than the average Soldier, Airmen, Sailor, etc... What makes Marines different is the mindset, attitude, stubbornness, and MOST importantly, the history. The history is drilled into our heads every single day through boot camp and beyond and this creates a strong desire to live up to the valiant acts and strong combat history of the Marine Corps and individual Marines in battles. Confidence in your fellow Marines, yes, a bit of ego, a rich combat history, and solid training creates the force which are Marines. I was attached with a British unit in Afghanistan and worked with many other countries. I will tell you that there were some extremely capable and impressive units that 1:1 were probably more capable than many US Marines. That part is not arguable. But what is lacking in many cases is the above mentioned. You just cannot replace the effectiveness of how the Marine Corps builds a US Marine mentally. Attitude, confidence, and trust in your fellow Marine is everything. Semper Fi.

  • @therealuncleowen2588
    @therealuncleowen2588 Před rokem +33

    Thank you for this video. I'm about to watch and I love this topic. My general knowledge on the topic is that after the victory at Midway, the USN and Admiral King in particular were looking for a way to follow up that success by seizing the initiative and forcing Japan to fight an attritional battle on ground the USA chose.
    The discovery that the Japanese were building an airstrip on Guadalcanal was recognized as the opportunity to do exactly that. What followed was a bold move, landing the 1st Marine Division on short notice under contested skies and contested waters to seize the airstrip. A storm front was successfully used to hide the relatively small invasion fleet. There were hiccups, supplies were loaded onto the supply ships so hastily that the initial landing of supplies, a process cut short by the defeat at Savo Island, was not able to be done by highest priority first. Therefore, the Marines were left with little to eat among other critical shortages. Thankfully, they had captured a significant amount of food from the Japanese and therefore, while rations were short for a time, the Americans did not come close to starving, unlike the Japanese would later in the campaign.
    The bold move of seizing the airstrip, renamed Henderson Field, touched off the world's first combined land, sea, and air campaign and was exactly the attritional battle the Americans had been looking to create. All of it centered on a dirt airstrip located on a hateful malarial swamp of an island that nobody in their right mind would want to live on nor ever visit voluntarily. The Guadalcanal campaign is one the greatest military stories in human history. Bring on the videos!!

  • @privatememewar7993
    @privatememewar7993 Před rokem +14

    I enjoyed watching The Pacific series and still have the copy.

  • @45sticky
    @45sticky Před rokem +19

    I so love this channel. Spotlighting on the lead up to Guadalcanal. Telling us things we knew, some things we didn’t know in a concise detailed report. Simply the best!

  • @owenkittredge3433
    @owenkittredge3433 Před rokem +5

    In the 1980s I worked with a petroleum geologist that was a marine Lieutenant in WWII and he told me of dock workers on strike when they were prepping for an invasion. I know now that he was with The Old Breed. He was very gentle soul that never revealed the hell he must of gone through.

  • @samadams2203
    @samadams2203 Před rokem +6

    Wellington dock workers on strike...during a war? What du heck.

  • @rogerpattube
    @rogerpattube Před rokem +7

    As a NZer the strike is embarrassing. God bless those Marine boys.

    • @Chungus581
      @Chungus581 Před 16 dny

      I wonder how those kiwis slept at night as they got older and looked back at that being their “commitment” to the war effort.

  • @iamnolegend2519
    @iamnolegend2519 Před rokem +48

    I have nothing but respect for US Marines.

  • @BF4TehWin
    @BF4TehWin Před rokem +25

    Those of "The Old Breed" truly are that. Those like Robert Leckie are long gone from today's military and civilian population. The beautiful prose by which he spoke and wrote about his experiences is something to behold and strive for. His heroism and valor in the face of the enemy is only slightly more common, I'm afraid. We salute you and all of your compadres.

    • @westrim
      @westrim Před rokem

      Not remotely true. Look up One Bullet Away for one example of why you're wrong.

  • @patrickdurham8393
    @patrickdurham8393 Před 8 měsíci +2

    As an 80s era Marine I can tell you that nothing had changed in 40 years. We were still tasked with doing eveything with nothing and we did it.
    Once a Marine always a Marine.

  • @desimonevd
    @desimonevd Před rokem +24

    Unprepared? At about 6:40, a young marine falls four times after exiting his landing craft!

    • @rogerpattube
      @rogerpattube Před rokem +10

      And got up four times, kept going😊

    • @brennantom9083
      @brennantom9083 Před rokem +4

      Sea sick, sea sick, sea sick.
      Landing craft bounced and rolled like crazy. Got it.

    • @fjb4932
      @fjb4932 Před rokem +1

      @@brennantom9083 !
      As an assigned Engineman on LCVP ( i was a CMCN / SeaBee at the time ) in the Pacific, i can Definitely relate and tell you, seasick and sealegs don't aid you when you hit the beach.
      I've chummed for Charlie from S. Korea to the Philippines and back, twice, at a stately 9 knots. Tell me about it ! . . .

  • @terrancecoard388
    @terrancecoard388 Před rokem +23

    I enjoyed reading Robert Lackie's Helmet for My Pillow.

  • @andrewjost6714
    @andrewjost6714 Před rokem +1

    Oohrah! Semper Fi Marines!!! A dock worker's strike, during war!... amazing!

  • @cesargonzalez4146
    @cesargonzalez4146 Před rokem +6

    You did a good job, boys. Remember that.

  • @raywhitehead730
    @raywhitehead730 Před rokem +21

    There were only about 54 thousand US Marines in 1942. Buy 1945 there were About 470 thousand US Marines a totally different force. A totally different Marine Corps.

    • @philsmith2444
      @philsmith2444 Před rokem +1

      I was US army 86-98 and found the Marines to have the same attitude and mindset as elite units like Airborne and Rangers. It’s probably because they all get the same kinds of missions - attack behind enemy lines with little in the way of supplies and hold on until heavier follow-on forces arrive.

  • @Heike--
    @Heike-- Před rokem +136

    When the Marines stopped in New Zealand to pick up supplies on the way to Guadalcanal, the New Zealand unionized dock workers ("wharfies") refused to help them load their ships. The port director was openly hostile to the Americans and the wharfies frequently walked off the job. Turning a deaf ear to the danger posed by the Japanese, they took frequent breaks for tea and laughed at the idea of working past 5pm. Most of the loading was done by the Marines themselves, who worked around the clock, under floodlights at night, and kept going even during driving rain. One Marine approvingly noted a graffiti left on a Wellington wall: "All wharfies is bastards".

    • @brokenpotato438
      @brokenpotato438 Před rokem +1

      Should’ve beat the fuck out of the dock workers 😂

    • @tacomas9602
      @tacomas9602 Před rokem +17

      😂 that marine must’ve been a good ol farm boy

    • @raywhitehead730
      @raywhitehead730 Před rokem

      Absolutely true, the rat bastards

    • @Xblue72X
      @Xblue72X Před rokem +14

      Talk about helping the war effort lol

    • @dougerrohmer
      @dougerrohmer Před rokem +11

      The Aussies earned a lot of respect in North Africa, but the minute the Japanese started moving closer to Aussieland, they insisted on being brought home. They were then placed with MacArthur, and were the worst troops in theatre on both sides. Same bolshie attitude, and I'm not talking cheeky and plucky, but "Time to bug out, cobbers!" The home front was also similar to the Kiwis, lot's of strikes and work to rule.

  • @NapBoney
    @NapBoney Před rokem +25

    Let’s leave behind mosquito nets and insect repellent before months on Guadalcanal. Great effing idea

    • @thomasdragosr.841
      @thomasdragosr.841 Před rokem +6

      The newest navigation charts they had were from the 1700's Royal Navy.

    • @Luis-be9mi
      @Luis-be9mi Před rokem +2

      At least they didn’t leave behind the atabrine

    • @NapBoney
      @NapBoney Před rokem +2

      @@Luis-be9mi 💀

    • @wisconsinfarmer4742
      @wisconsinfarmer4742 Před rokem +1

      You get used to the skeets, believe it or not. You don't even feel them after a hundred thousand bites over six months.
      But I still cringed for those boys. malaria is a lot like lyme from deer ticks, but more deadly.

  • @DanielMatthews-ql3wf
    @DanielMatthews-ql3wf Před 9 měsíci +1

    I had an uncle who was on Guadalcanal, he never talked about it much ,it was not something he wanted to remember. He talked about the friends he made and the good times he had while on leave. But than my father didn't share much of his war experiences either.

  • @donbrashsux
    @donbrashsux Před rokem +9

    A warfie strike during a full on war in the Pacific .. that’s just crazy .. only in NZ I guess

    • @wisconsinfarmer4742
      @wisconsinfarmer4742 Před rokem

      we don't know the whole story.
      there were threats of strikes in the USA too, when underpaid workers discovered the insane abuses of the owners. Appealing to their patriotism while driving them like slaves and pocketing insane profits.

    • @fjb4932
      @fjb4932 Před rokem +2

      In EVERY country with unions, saddly . . .

    • @crono2366
      @crono2366 Před rokem +2

      @@fjb4932 I don't like to assume things, but are you honestly implying we should forbid unions in case people might want to fight for their rights during a war?

  • @bigsteve6200
    @bigsteve6200 Před rokem +3

    Outstanding !!! The World's Finest US Marines. Semper Fi

  • @bonemeal_boi
    @bonemeal_boi Před rokem +2

    Thanks for the tutorial, I followed it to the letter and would appreciate another one teaching me how to continue my island hopping campaign.

  • @CaptainRexCT-7567
    @CaptainRexCT-7567 Před rokem +2

    May they never be forgotten. Semper fi.

  • @Gator-357
    @Gator-357 Před rokem +2

    My grandfather served in this campaign with the 1st Marines. He never talked about his time in service until the last year of his life and I think he only did then because there were some things he had to finally let go of so he could go in peace.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 Před rokem +10

    This was an interesting look into how to train your marine in WWII.

  • @feltwedge
    @feltwedge Před rokem +14

    Thanks for putting this together. BTW, when you say, ‘1st Marines’ you will be referring to the 1st Marine Regiment. 1st Marine Division is always referred to in its entirety or simply, ‘1st MarDiv’.

  • @Hillbilly001
    @Hillbilly001 Před rokem +17

    Excellent video as always, but I think this is the first time Operations Room didn't post a vid too. Well done though. Cheers from Tennessee

    • @TheIntelReport
      @TheIntelReport  Před rokem +29

      Standby!

    • @Hillbilly001
      @Hillbilly001 Před rokem +7

      @@TheIntelReport That's a roge. Standing by.

    • @danagiles5100
      @danagiles5100 Před rokem +6

      @@Hillbilly001 Logical choice would be a major series on Guadalcanal...yum!

    • @Hillbilly001
      @Hillbilly001 Před rokem +2

      @@danagiles5100 I'll second that!

    • @Hillbilly001
      @Hillbilly001 Před rokem +4

      @@danagiles5100 If it was anything like Iwo and Bulge it would be epic.

  • @oninino6102
    @oninino6102 Před rokem +2

    Let's not forget the 164th Infantry Regiment of the Americal Division which landed on Guadalcanal October 13, 1942. Fought side buy side with the Marines to take and clear the Island. Also went on to fight on Bougainville. The 164th Americal Division was the first Army Division to fight in WW2 European or Pacific theater. The stories these men told about the fighting were horrific.

    • @markpiersall9815
      @markpiersall9815 Před 11 měsíci +2

      The US Army Infantry were North Dakota Reservist. They were instrumental in helping the Marines hold their lines. They had been issued and trained with the new eight shot semiautomatic Garand M1 rifle. Since the Marines had experience with night infiltrators and the M1 rifles had a higher rate of fire, the Army soldiers were interspersed among the Marines and shared trenches and foxholes elbow to elbow. Captured Japanese were amazed how we had armed all our soldiers with 'machine guns'. The US Marines made the North Dakota National Guardsmen honorary Marines.

    • @minhthunguyendang9900
      @minhthunguyendang9900 Před 4 měsíci

      @@markpiersall9815
      The hellish Biak, a hybrid of Guadalcanal, Peleliu & Iwo was cleared by the Army.

    • @minhthunguyendang9900
      @minhthunguyendang9900 Před 4 měsíci

      @@markpiersall9815
      The Marines on Guadalcanal were armed with bolt-action rifles. & I had always assumed that they were the very 1st to get the M1 Garand !
      On 1 picture, a Marine is seen holding a drum magazine Thompson smg, probably from the Chicago pd arsenal !
      BAR squad mgs & M30. mgs compensated their firepower.
      The IJA on Guadalcanal had 🔥throwers, not the 🇺🇸

    • @markpiersall9815
      @markpiersall9815 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@minhthunguyendang9900 I had four Uncles in WW II. The oldest Oscar built LSTs in Evansville Indiana. He died in the 1950s from asbestos he applied to the steam pipes. John was on a supply ship with Halsey and suffered through two Typhoons; he praised the steamadores for having all their supplies well secured during those terrible storms, tied down and strapped tight. Paul was in Marine aviation maintenance; for being a Marine in the Pacific he wasn't shot at, just ran to a bomb shelter occasionally. Claude was in the heavy artillery in Europe on a 203 mm (8 inch) gun crew. They landed on the British Mulberry harbor as the American one was washed out by a big storm.
      But Uncle Leo dodged the draft notice he was handed on the dock where he worked as a Longshoremen in California. He returned home to Illinois and Grandpa told him to catch a train to Indianapolis and join the Navy and get an enlistment bonus. He used some of the money to buy my Dad a new bicycle! He used it to deliver for the pharmacy after school for tips. Leo ended up on PT 532, which set sail for the Pacific in October 1943. By then the boats all had 'radio sets' (radar) which aided navigation as many boats were lost to reef hangups. In November 1944 they got 5" rockets. Four by two on the starboard and port side of the bow. Thus configured they were no longer PT boats, they were Devil boats. Leo may have gotten easier duty as a draftee or could have died, but my Dad wouldn't have had that nice bike to deliver pharmacy items for tips. Only Oscar with the Exempt from Draft shipyard construction job died, isn't that ironic.

    • @minhthunguyendang9900
      @minhthunguyendang9900 Před 4 měsíci

      @@markpiersall9815
      The Greatest Generation of Americans 🇺🇸 For Saving the world ❤️ 🌍 🌏 🌎❤️

  • @morgan97475
    @morgan97475 Před rokem +21

    WTF? I was unaware of the truncated training these guys received prior to the actual assault.

    • @JD-tn5lz
      @JD-tn5lz Před rokem +17

      The Marines of 1950 received even less, look at how they did.
      Of course, WW2 veteran NCOs and officers made a huge difference.

    • @Playwithdeutschland
      @Playwithdeutschland Před rokem

      @@JD-tn5lzdefinitely

  • @gooslems1995
    @gooslems1995 Před rokem +3

    I knew a man in Alabama in 1964 that joined the marines at age 13 and wound up in Guadalcanal. He broke down mentally and was sent home.

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron Před rokem +1

      Incredible times and anything or everything is valuable for #OurHistory in my opinion.

    • @minhthunguyendang9900
      @minhthunguyendang9900 Před 4 měsíci

      Not everybody made it

  • @fredsasse9973
    @fredsasse9973 Před rokem

    My father, Sgt. Herman J. Sasse (then a Private), was on one of those landing craft at Guadalcanal on August 7, 1942. He had been 18 years old at that time for less than a month. By the time he rotated stateside in 1944 he had taken part in most of the battles in the Solomon Islands, including Bouganville.
    I believe a few of the clips in this presentation showed US personnel using M1 Garands. My father said neither he nor anyone he served with in the Solomons saw a Garand until early in 1944. They were using M1903 Springfield bolt action rifles from WWI. The Marines did use the Reising submachine gun and the BAR from the beginning though.

  • @MrMenefrego1
    @MrMenefrego1 Před rokem +22

    What kind of short-sighted fools go on strike during a war in which your nation is in the line of advance of the enemy?!

    • @stephenwoolley2130
      @stephenwoolley2130 Před rokem +5

      Unionised fools

    • @lukebennett576
      @lukebennett576 Před rokem

      theres more to it there always is

    • @MrMenefrego1
      @MrMenefrego1 Před rokem +3

      @@lukebennett576 Please do tell ... I'd love to hear how you justify such a treacherous action.

    • @lukebennett576
      @lukebennett576 Před rokem

      @@MrMenefrego1 what about germans going on strike in ww2. I bet you would support strikes of russian workers right now. expand your mind out of the textbooks

    • @Frank-jg4tq
      @Frank-jg4tq Před rokem +1

      I'm a kiwi, I was shocked and embarrassed to learn that

  • @clazy8
    @clazy8 Před rokem +3

    Great footage

  • @guntherultraboltnovacrunch5248

    When he made the list of "items that did not make the cut" i thought it was a list of the only things that MADE the cut..lol.

  • @stephenrodwell8125
    @stephenrodwell8125 Před rokem +2

    Semper Fi! 1st Mar Div 1990-97 “The Old Breed”

  • @rochrich1223
    @rochrich1223 Před rokem +13

    There is a tradition on active duty to hold a small party for the squad member who has completed his first YEAR. Up to that point he is a newbe and is assumed that he barely knows which way is up. Imagine being these guys after your 2 1/2 days of field training in basic!

  • @KC_Smooth
    @KC_Smooth Před rokem

    Watching this made me rewatch The Pacific.

  • @Playwithdeutschland
    @Playwithdeutschland Před rokem +1

    The marines made some great people

  • @chrisb7198
    @chrisb7198 Před 5 měsíci

    I was wondering if you planned to do more about the rest of the land battles on Guadalcanal? After the video on the battle of alligator creek you switched to the naval battles and haven't said anything more about the land war. Yes all the naval battles are important but the soldiers struggled for months there and I'm sure there is more story to be heard about that.
    Love your work and was glad to see you collaborated with Drachinifel.

  • @Nun.of.ur.business444

    Amphibious landings are some of the most complex and difficult things to pull off in war. That they were able to plan it and execute it in such a short time is a miracle.

  • @Chiller11
    @Chiller11 Před 11 měsíci +1

    It’s important to realize that the Japanese efforts to capture New Guinea were taking place at the same time as the US attack on Guadalcanal. Each campaign influenced the other enormously.

  • @michaelbritt2754
    @michaelbritt2754 Před rokem

    Fun fact, steak and eggs is tradition after the crucible in boot camp. Love my service and proud of my title oorah, always, for you future Marines, be proud to carry on tradition. Be proud of being the greatest fighting force the world has ever seen. Semper Fidelis!!

  • @chloehennessey6813
    @chloehennessey6813 Před rokem +1

    7:10
    DD 390
    Ralph Talbot, Bagley class destroyer named for Marine Lt Ralph Talbot who earned the Medal of Honor during WW1

  • @Eringobragh1861
    @Eringobragh1861 Před rokem +1

    My grandfather was in the 10th marine division

  • @Playwithdeutschland
    @Playwithdeutschland Před rokem

    I’m happy I saw this video and the pacific, we need more shows and movies about the war

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ Před rokem +2

    Thanks for another great video!

  • @phred196
    @phred196 Před rokem +1

    Nice video. When showing an obvious animation like at the start of the video, you don't need to caption it "animated". I think we all get it.

  • @philsmith2444
    @philsmith2444 Před rokem +6

    I remember reading my father’s copy of “The Island” by Capt Herbert L Merrillat(?), USMC several times when I was young. (My father was a Marine, 57-67.) Even did a book report on it in 6th grade, maybe. Certainly a very different choice than The Hardy Boys Mysteries or “Hello, God. It’s Me, Margaret”! I was a weird kid LOL. It was very dry, like you were reading the Division’s official history, but being 9 or 10 at the time I just really couldn’t fully comprehend what I was reading. Nobody who hadn’t BTDT could!
    But yeah, the Marines in WW2 did so much with so little and they did it in the absolutely most unfit for human habitation places on earth. I’m not in any way denigrating what the army did and went through in Normandy, the Ardennes, or during THEIR Pacific campaigns, but the Marines did it first and found out the hard way what worked and didn’t work so the next guys who went ashore on some hellhole might have a slightly better chance of survival. Unfortunately the Japanese learned from their experiences, too, so that better chance of survival never really materialized. But that didn’t stop the Marines!
    Somewhat on topic, can you imagine what a difference Amtracs would have made at the Normandy landings? They carried fewer men than Higgins boats, sure, but a couple .30 & .50 cals on every one just pounding the shit out of the bunkers and pillboxes on the beach would have had to lessen the direct fire the men took. It’s hard to keep shooting when sand and concrete fragments keep getting blown into your faces. And if they’d had something like today’s Mk19! 20mm Oerlikons, maybe?

  • @timf2279
    @timf2279 Před rokem +15

    The Wellington longshoremen were on strike during a war? I would have them all fired, arrested and shipped off to battle as privates.

    • @userequaltoNull
      @userequaltoNull Před rokem +5

      I'd have thrown a beating in there too, that shit doesn't fly during Wartime.

    • @owo1744
      @owo1744 Před rokem

      @@userequaltoNull I believe some new zealanders and australians that pulled that shit got executed

  • @FormerVicePresidentDickVeiny

    When the narrator says "1st Marines" in reference to the 1st MARDIV, this is incorrect. In the Marine Corps when we name a numbered unit followed by the word "Marines" this is in reference to a regiment, not a division. For example... I was a member of the 2nd Batallion, 7th Marines. AKA the 7th Marine Regiment.

  • @TeslasTacos
    @TeslasTacos Před rokem

    I didn’t even know this channel existed, wow

  • @Playwithdeutschland
    @Playwithdeutschland Před rokem

    Great video, we need more videos like this. Back when people were great marines and soldiers

  • @usonumabeach300
    @usonumabeach300 Před 10 měsíci

    Montford Point has since been renamed Camp Johnson in honor of the first African American marine. It's a satellite base of Camp Lejeune, home of 2nd Marine Division. Most of the Marine Corps' logistic MOS's are trained there. I went through diesel mechanic school there in 2002.

  • @the_beef4762
    @the_beef4762 Před rokem +3

    Fantastic, as always.

  • @brucewelty7684
    @brucewelty7684 Před rokem +2

    One of my Jr High teachers was a Marine on Guadalcanal. He missed a few days due to malaria.

    • @wisconsinfarmer4742
      @wisconsinfarmer4742 Před rokem

      when I saw that netting was left behind, I cringed for these fellows.

  • @jamesbarca7229
    @jamesbarca7229 Před rokem +4

    Those striking dockworkers should have been conscripted, given rifles, and sent to fight the Japanese. They would have longed for the good old days when they were back loading and unloading cargo.

  • @JD-tn5lz
    @JD-tn5lz Před rokem +6

    Please edit and correct.
    I understand that it is confusing to some, but it matters to many...
    "The First Marines" refers to the First Marine Regiment, not the First Marine Division.
    It may be difficult for a non-Marine to understand, but we Marine infantry (artillery Marines also do this) identify ourselves through our regiments first and foremost...divisions are a very distant second.
    It seems petty, but it absolutely is not.
    Prior Walking Dead.

  • @oldgysgt
    @oldgysgt Před rokem

    Steak and eggs is the traditional Marine breakfast before a landing. I don't when or where it started, but it was still a tradition when I was active, and I assume it still is now.

  • @maureencora1
    @maureencora1 Před rokem +2

    7:18 Picture is Maj.General Roy S. Geiger USMC Do Your Homework, Semper-Fi.

  • @RonaldReaganRocks1
    @RonaldReaganRocks1 Před rokem

    These guys are heroes.

  • @catlee8064
    @catlee8064 Před rokem +14

    6 divisions of marines fought in the pacific theatre....20 US army divisions also fought there, yet no one remembers them.

    • @redaug4212
      @redaug4212 Před rokem +4

      That's because many laymen unironically believe that it's the Marines' job to do all the fighting, and then the Army just comes in afterwards to clean up the battle field. These are the same people who think they understand the Pacific War just because they watch old History Channel documentaries and read Sledge's memoir after seeing HBO's "The Pacific".

    • @jakethejeweler3092
      @jakethejeweler3092 Před rokem +5

      Then the army needs to get better at memorializing their deeds... God bless them all regardless of how "history" remembers them. And the pacific sucked

    • @Firedog-ny3cq
      @Firedog-ny3cq Před rokem

      @@jakethejeweler3092 It sucked royally for EVERYBODY who served, regardless of service designation.

    • @DavidTangitau-wy5cu
      @DavidTangitau-wy5cu Před rokem

      I'm a marine and know a good amount about the army fighting I the pacific.

  • @AquaTeenHungerForce_4_Life

    Cant overstate how bad the Longshoreman strike screwed up the invasion timeline. You get what you pay for when you grab the first junior enlisted Marine, no matter how Gung Ho he may be. If its not what he was trained for, especially menial manual labor. They may think why does the ammo need to be loaded last? We're gonna need that first! Yes, I promise you that will go through a Private or PFC's mind.
    With the sneak attack by the 8th Fleet into the slot in my mind is blamed for chasing the US Navy off which is true, but it should have been off loaded already by the time. Its why you never hear of such a logistic SNAFU after. The US Navy either learned how to load ships, or used the damn trained dock workers.

  • @DaveSCameron
    @DaveSCameron Před rokem +3

    Tips hat 🧢 to our American cousins, Guadalcanal deserves a far higher standing in historical parlance. 🇬🇧🙏🇺🇸☘️📚

  • @MikoziQ
    @MikoziQ Před rokem +1

    Read the thumbnail as 'How to Rush A' and actually wondered whether you guys played Counter Strike recently. Ah, my weekend brains 😂

  • @farmerdave7965
    @farmerdave7965 Před rokem

    Your animation is the best.

  • @johnme16
    @johnme16 Před 5 měsíci

    4:30 the guy looking down the barrel of the gun😂 the 1940s were different man

  • @Rimasta1
    @Rimasta1 Před rokem +1

    You never know, might need to return 1st MARDIV back to this address someday.

  • @Dannymiles1987
    @Dannymiles1987 Před rokem

    2006 was 13 weeks of training. Fun times 😂

  • @nicholasleon7819
    @nicholasleon7819 Před rokem

    thanks for this how to, helps a lot

  • @stephenrickstrew7237
    @stephenrickstrew7237 Před rokem +10

    And do it all on a shoestring with a lot of WW1 rifles and machine guns

    • @SlavicCelery
      @SlavicCelery Před rokem +6

      As much as they had a shortcoming with their small arms... they also had navel artillery support. So, six of one, half a dozen of another.
      They also had Johnson rifles and Riesing SMGs. Uncommon goods, but good enough for the job at hand.

    • @Luis-be9mi
      @Luis-be9mi Před rokem +3

      “Army gets the new stuff while we fight with shit my grandfather used.” - The Pacific HBO Series

    • @stephenrickstrew7237
      @stephenrickstrew7237 Před rokem

      @@SlavicCelery Melvin Johnson was one of the greatest firearms designers of all time … those m1919 water cooled machine guns sure came in handy on Edison’s ridge

    • @redaug4212
      @redaug4212 Před rokem +3

      @@Luis-be9mi The greatest trick the Navy ever pulled was convincing the Marines that the Army is responsible for all their supply woes lol

    • @Luis-be9mi
      @Luis-be9mi Před rokem

      @@redaug4212 pretty sure that deception didn’t last long. After all who crews all the ships carrying all the supplies from home? Sailors, and which branch of the military have sailors? The Navy, also the biggest kicker, who was responsible for the worst defeat near Savo Island leading to the withdrawal of the supplies and marines waiting to disembark from their ships? The Navy

  • @goldenhide
    @goldenhide Před rokem +9

    Small note: When referring to say "1st Marines" this would be actually referencing the 1st Marine Regiment and not the division. Much like the Marine version of 133rd Infantry [Regiment] and 7th Cav [Regiment] in the Army. This gets further confusing when Marine Infantry, Artillery, and Combat Engineer regiments are all referred to as "Marines" I.e. 5th Marines, 11th Marines, and 17th Marines of the 1stMarDiv respectively. Though the composite combat engineer regiments would not survive as full regiments by the end of the war and were often reduced to 1-2 battalion organic to the division.
    Parlance of the time would have been "First Marine Division" though I've seen it shortened to "1stMarDiv" in period paperwork I'm not sure if the "Mar-Div" name was a thing back then. A mouthful I know, but "accuracy" and all that.

  • @austinlynum242
    @austinlynum242 Před rokem

    Great video, but I keep getting confused... when you say "1st Marines," I can't tell if you're talking about the 1st Marine Division, or the 1st Marine Regiment. When you talk about a regiment in the Marine Corps, it's customary to address them as "X Marines," and each division is addressed either as "X Marine Division," or shortened to "X MarDiv." So every time I heard "1st Marines," I thought you were talking about the regiment. Which, of course, is inside 1st MarDiv, so that made it worse.
    Besides that, great video, really enjoyed the focus on logistics and training that goes into preparing for combat. We often see combat as 90% of what the military does, but there is so much preparation that goes into it, and so much admin to make sure everyone is ready (love that the pay clerks got left behind 😂). It's cool to see that side every once in a while.

  • @efraim3364
    @efraim3364 Před rokem +2

    Robert Leckie was one of the Point of view characters in the miniseries "The Pacific", counter part show to "Band of Brothers"

  • @Rusty_Gold85
    @Rusty_Gold85 Před rokem +3

    I cannot work out why they never used constant forward patrols. Seemed to be "West point training without contact with the enemy" thinking

  • @craigpalmer9196
    @craigpalmer9196 Před rokem +1

    well done

  • @georgea.567
    @georgea.567 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Those aren't Marines in Verazruz. They are sailors. They are wearing sailor rigs and the dixie cup hat.

  • @chrismillard4651
    @chrismillard4651 Před rokem

    The guy coming out of the landing craft at 6:40 fell over 4 times in 8 seconds...... maybe that fella should have considered a support unit....

  • @Beemer917
    @Beemer917 Před 6 měsíci +1

    You totally forgot their infantry and boat training in south carolina.

  • @irondog068
    @irondog068 Před rokem

    Not to be a jersey. But the 1st Two pictures you showed were US Navy Blue jacket shore parties. The first one I know was the Blue jacket landing party from the USS Florida at Veriqruz. My Great Uncle was a US Navy sharpshooter on the Florida and served at Veriqruz and the Great War on the Battle ship. The second picture is also at Veriqruz after the sailors dyed there Uniforms and white "cracker jack" hats in coffee. Marines wore Campain hats which looked like Marine Drill instructors hats.

  • @tyronemarcucci8395
    @tyronemarcucci8395 Před rokem +1

    Some of your first photos were of sailors not Marines.. The Navy had landing parties, of which I was in one.. We would support the Marines with light artillary, comms, first aid, cooling, messengers.etc.

  • @richardyoung871
    @richardyoung871 Před rokem

    In this video it talks about this Marine unit. The 25th infantry division was activated in 1941,right after the JAPANESE bombed PEARL HARBOR

  • @rolisreefranch
    @rolisreefranch Před rokem +1

    FYI: 1st Marines refers to the 1st Marine Regiment, not the 1st Marine Division. USMC vet speaking. Good video tho.

  • @juliannestingray5948
    @juliannestingray5948 Před rokem +1

    all of the years playing cs:go i've never heard of rush a before.

  • @kensmith8152
    @kensmith8152 Před rokem +1

    Note to self: Don’t put your drinking water in used oil drums without washing them out good first!😮