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If you noticed on episode 3, originally Zoltraak has a black color as opposed to Frieren's and Fern's white color~ It's still the same Killing Spell BUT Frieren modified it to specifically do lethal damage on demons~ she is as they said, GENIUS~ Plus, Japanese Title Drop on the end there~ Sousou no Frieren~ gives me chills!
In the original manga there is no color difference so while Friren did modify the spell the color change when Qual uses it is just an aesthetic choice by the animation team.
She’s probably a genius of hard work from all the useless spells she researches like turning grapes sour and reading grimoires so late into the night she wouldn’t wake up until noon without Fern
So a fun detail. The title of the series has two meanings (neither of which is the official one Beyond Journey’s End which is just a completely original title they gave the english version). Sousou no Frieren can be read as Frieren at the Funeral a clear play on her long life and watching people pass away as she lives on but it also can translate as Frieren who brings the funeral or as the series phrases it Frieren the Slayer which is the in world title the demons gave her as the one who has killed so many of them. It’s a neat play on the duality of the series one part somber and melancholic and then one part action and adventure.
in japan "葬送" can be two meanings, can be send her friends to funeral also can mean slay her enemies. 葬送のフリーレン means Frieren who slay her enemies, or Frieren who bury her friends like the title "one Beyond Journey’s End " but conside the story is bittersweet story, one Beyond Journey’s End fit the style
Frieren the Undertaker is a bit more accurate, as "sousou" is [properly] sending someone to grave/funeral. It doesn't necessarily mean killing, and it can work with both friends and foes. In the beginning everyone thought the "sousou" term was referring to her sending her friends away due to her long lifespan. Only here do you see the other side of the meaning of the term as it referred to her demon slaying records. It's just a pity that the English audience never gets the 100% satisfaction of the title drop here due to this whole English title problem. It's like what happened in Attack on Titan, the title drop lost its full impact because the title of the work didn't 100% correspond to Eren's Titan. Yeah you can explain and yeah you can be made to understand. But just like explanation of a joke. it's just not the same.
@@wingw3844 To be correct. 葬送 simply means visiting the funeral or sending the dead off. It's just author is stretching the usual meaning a bit and gives it another context. Demons basically call Frieren someone that visits you to send you off to your grave. They literally treat her as Grim Reaper. I personally think "Frieren of the funereal" carries the 2 potential meanings the best, as it could be understood as "Frieren that attends a lot of funerals" as well as "Frieren that *causes* a lot of funerals"
When Lugner said Draht wouldn't die to underestimations, he was saying that they are so strong that even underestimations should not make a difference and surely would not make him lose his life. That's why they immediately contemplated what sort of strong adversary he must have faced. Again you three came out with the best reaction out there so far on Frieren 8. I really like the parts where each of you took on a character's viewpoint to look at the same event and analyze the character's motives, actions, and justifications. Really a fun and intelligent discussion overall.
Or it's just a mistranslation, cos the word he actually used meant "careless", implying Draht was fully on guard and yet still died, so the mage he fought was incredibly strong.
There was multiple potential factors why Stark and Fern didn't finish demons there. Granat was in really bad shape, so not only he could die from his wound, he might simply end up dying in cross-fire and Fern needed time to cast another spell (that's why Stark was buying time for her in the first place), so he'd need to defend both her and Granat, which wouldn't be that easy since Linie was about to attack them and they did not know what magic she has. Also Fern failed to finish off Lügner and they had no idea how fast he could heal and join back the fray. So basically despite getting the jump on the demons, they still were in disadvantaged position. So this episode had a ultra cool title drop moment that was completely missed, because title of the series is localized as Frieren, Beyond Journey's End, which granted sounds cool and fits the series and OG title is hard to TL, but that's kinda translator's job. Basically "sousou" in Sousou no Frieren usually means attending a funeral or sending the dead off, so demons literally call her someone that visits you to send you off to your grave. They basically treat her as Grim Reaper. I personally think "Frieren of the funereal" carries the 2 potential meanings the best, as it could be understood as "Frieren that attends a lot of funerals" as well as "Frieren that *causes* a lot of funerals"
Like I have said before, the underlying theme for the last several episodes have been that people, even the demons too, have forgotten about Freiren. That is why Lugner and his gang did not recognize her at the beginning.
That's what i kind of figured. It's as though she's become a fairytale for a lot of people (kinda resonant to that one ep with Himmel and his statues).
@@_syzygy_ yup her and her party killed the demon king and defeated the old demon army. They were OP AS FUCK and she’s had just under 100 years to get even stronger. She’s out here playing NG+ and people don’t even realize lol
A few things reactors, or just people in general miss while watching the show. 1. Graf Granat. "Graf" is not a name, it's a title, in the German nobility to be exact. I'm not too sure what the English equipment is but if I had to guess it would probably be the title of Count. 2. It's not just humans that advance technology, the demons do so as well. They are not as weak as most people seem to believe. Stark and Fern have all the reasons to be afraid of them. Up until this point, both of them have only ever fought against wild beasts and monsters. 3. Fern could not just blast the demons out then make their escape. For one, they have a severely injured person with them, and Stark is already carrying that man, making the potential battle a 2v1. Second, Lugner is unbelievably calm even tho a portion of his body is already gone. Who knows what he could have pulled off then. There was just way too much risk in fighting there, and sending a blast before leaving is only asking the enemy to pursue them then and there, which Fern and Stark clearly don't want to happen.
I guess people underestimate the demons because Frieren would not fight them or made short work of them. They seem to forget she is already a maxed level character in this series lol. Also it is easy to say to "blast him" as if the demons wont counterattack, considering there is an injured person nearby.
I was gonna comment something boring like "elves and dwarves fall under the umbrella term 'humanity' because they co-exist with and contribute to their societies, probably", but instead I'll leave you with this dumb nugget: When Lügner says Draht's in the privy, the euphemism he uses in Japanese is "tearai" where "te" means "hand" and "arai" means "wash", but Draht literally had no hands to wash after his business with Frieren.
"Stark can take them, idk about Fern" Excuse me, she is being trained by Frieren for the past 8 years and Frieren said she learned 10 years of content in 4, so she's like, decades ahead of any mage her age + the additional buff from being the apprentice of a legend. Fern is basically the daughter of Frieren the Slayer, therefore basically the granddaughter of Flamme the Legendary Mage, PUT SOME RESPECT ON HER NAME 😂
They think that because Stark soloed a dragon while the same dragon was unfazed by Fern's pewpew. Tbf Fern hit the dragon's scale (probably the hardest part of its body) while Stark went for its head.
Fern is good but still young. In this world, younger fighters have advantages (even including Aisen as compared to himself), but for mages, older mages would have accumulated more magical qualities (you will see later what these entail) and would do better than younger mages. These demons have been around for more than 80 years after all. You will see in the next episode or two how these factors play out.
I like how they casually revealed Frieren's massive contribution to humanity's ongoing struggle against the demons. She led the research in analyzing Zoltraak (Soul Track), a demon spell designed to kill humans, so humans now have defensive barriers and upgraded gears that can negate the spell. Then she modified Zoltraak so it specializes in killing demons instead, and have it incorporated into the human's magic system as "Ordinary Offensive Magic", meaning it's an entry-level spell that is taught to every apprentice. Now even a beginner human mage is equipped with a specialist spell designed to kill demons. Talk about tipping the scale heavily in favor of humans. I can see why demons like Lugner both fear and hate Frieren, and that's not counting how many of them she has sent to their deaths herself as "the mage who has killed the most demons in all of history".
It's funny, because in Episode 3 she explained to Fern that humans analyzed Zoltraak and came up with countermeasures, but she left out the fact that she herself was a major contributor to that effort. I'm guessing she arranged for her contributions to be omitted from that history book she had Fern reading as well.
@@DarwinAwardWinner I actually think Frieren left it as an exercise for Fern to figure out when she reads the book. Their whole conversation reminds me of a student who didn't read her assigned reading before going to class. Every time she says something, the Professor replies "You wouldn't say that had you read my assigned reading." So finally the student read her assignment after class, only to discover her Professor is a pioneer in the field and practically wrote the book on the topic.
@@Ahjenta I've been thinking about this a bit more, and I have a theory: Frieren was 100% truthful when she told Fern that humans were the ones who came up with countermeasures for Zoltraak, because her own contribution was in analyzing the spell and figuring out how it works. Then humans took that knowledge and developed countermeasures, while Frieren took that same knowledge and modified the spell into a demon-killing spell. I don't have any proof for this, but it certainly seems on brand for "Frieren the Slayer". As for the history books, I wouldn't be surprised if Frieren had arranged for her name to be left out in order to keep the surprise for the next demons she ran into. And it doesn't feel like Frieren's style to insist that Fern read a book just because she herself is featured in it. Even if this is the case, though, it also wouldn't surprise me if Fern was able to read between the lines and infer that Frieren was involved despite not being mentioned by name in the book.
@@DarwinAwardWinner The term "humans" 人間 in Frieren's world can also be used as a catch-all term that includes humans, elves, and dwarves. Eisen, for example, is called the strongest human warrior even though he is a dwarf. So when Frieren says humans deciphered Zoltraak etc, she could mean it as a combined effort from all 3 races. Considering it was Lugnar who says Frieren is a major contributor in humans deciphering Zoltraak and adapting its use, I think what she did is pretty well known by both sides of the conflict. Re-watching ep. 3 and comparing it with the manga, it is interested to note that when Qual uses Zoltraak, its black in color and the kanji in the manga says "Human killing magic"; whereas when Frieren and later on Fern uses Zoltraak, it is white in color and the kanji in the manga says "Demon killing magic". It's a very nice touch highlighting the differences between the 2 versions.
It was very interesting for me how the title (in japanese) can be interpreted 2 different ways Sousou no Frieren is "Frieren at the funeral", but the demons call her "Sousou Frieren" which is something like Frieren the undertaker, as if you're a demon and you see her you're dead, pretty badass.
The meaning doesn't really change. What does change is the context. "Sousou" normally means attending a funeral or sending the dead off. Demons basically call Frieren someone that visits you to send you off to your grave. They literally treat her as Grim Reaper. I personally think "Frieren of the funereal" carries the 2 potential meanings the best, as it could be understood as "Frieren that attends a lot of funerals" as well as "Frieren that *causes* a lot of funerals"
That first demon has no combat experience and that is why he did not think about restraining Freiren. In his mind, he expects Freiren would focus on cutting his wire. But a veteran fighter like Freiren thinks differently.
@21:15 ... i just realised as you speak about him that "Graf Garant" is not translated in the english subtitles ( it does not stick out in the german subs as it is german after all ; ) ), but you can translate it to "earl guarantor" or "Earl Warrantor". Graf means "earl" or "count".
Ay Frieren fuckin dope nigga! I'm loving this show! She coming through like prime Buffy! The legendary slayer! I might have to read this after the season ends.
19:15 I took the he didn't loose because he under estimated her as she's just that strong it would matter if he did or didn't. That there supposed to be strong enough to just kill anybody , so frierin who killed him is just that powerful, that " he underestimated her " almost downplays her power
The original series is translated as "Frieren the Undertaker" "Undertaker" makes you think it's about the first few episodes when she's burying her friends Then this chapter explains the real meaning: she's the greatest demon "Slayer"
I personally think "Frieren of the funereal" carries the 2 potential meanings the best, as it could be understood as "Frieren that attends a lot of funerals" as well as "Frieren that *causes* a lot of funerals". Demons basically call Frieren someone that visits you to send you off to your grave. They literally treat her as Grim Reaper.
Some interesting info, flyijg mages didnt really exist in this world when the hero killed the demon king, its why the demons are always thrown off by it, so Fern just casual flying is pretty impressive, and Stark doing parkour and flinging himself over the wall also very impressive, both different but just as equally cool feats
I think he actually peed his pants and then spilled his drink to try to cover it up. That's how it looked like to me because he barely spilled any on him.
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It's worth mentioning that both Frieren and Fern hide their actual mana levels not only to make them harder to detect, but so that demons will underestimate them.
@@jaesaces yeah, but no one actually pay attention to that detail yet. And no one know Dern and Frieren are constantly do it now too. It should be a surprise
Just caught up on all your Frieren reacts. It's been great watching you get closer to the characters and more invested in the plot! Just one question, when you started the series in episode one ya'll reacted like some mistreated dogs at first. You kept expecting the WORST to happen to different characters, like you were afraid of being lulled into a false sense of security. What the hell did you watch before this? 😂
The EN translatiom secrewed up big this time. The Japanese title of Frieren is actualy Frieren, The Undertaker. This infers that she has to undergo the death of all her loved ones. It's not slayer. Wtf is slayer fr? So when the demon called her Frieren the "undertaker", he was actually referring to the Title of the work. The translation is so incorrect and is so anticlimactic to audiences who know the original text.
Im pretty sure this is the first out of a lot of ppl i see someone see Frieren the Slayer as 'anticlimactic' LMAO Even me read the original source still think this is pretty hype 'mistranslation' to anime only.
@@yuuta.1013The mistranslation made Frieren look like Goblin slayer. But that would be horrifyingly shallow. 葬送 means digging graves for others, it means mourning, it means undertaking, it forshadows Frieren's immortality. But it does not mean slayer. There is a reason why the Title of the work is called "葬送"のフリーレン and also why both her allies and foes call her by the same title "the undertaker." And EN translation just threw the topic sentence into the trash can. This giant plot hole cannot be covered by "oh but I think it's hype."
@@shehmo It doesn't make any sense for a demon to be labeling her with that context though. They don't have funerals, they won't even know what an undertaker is. Even if their bodies didn't dissolve they aren't gonna bury their dead. It's a literal translation that loses the meaning for the sake of preserving a pun. A pun that won't even reach the audience cuz they have a different title. Also, what allies call her that? Nobody in the story has called her by that title except for a demon. They'd call her something more heroic.
@@originalesp You have to ask the author about the setting. But the word 葬 itself means funeral. Maybe the author has her own plan, and the last thing a translator should do is adding unfaithful additional context before the author even comes up with the idea, especially when it's the one line that echoes with the WHOLE story. Write your own story then.
A mage who killed more demons than anyone else in history. Well it is logical since is more than a thousand years old if you think logically. She had more time than anyone else 😂
Hear me out. All 3 Geniuses are Females with names starting with F. Flamme, Frieren, and Fern. Is this an intentional Character Design that's supposed to be important later on or just superficial?
Unfortunately, that is probably just a coincidence. To begin with, in the original Japanese version, the characters' names are written in katakana and no Latin characters are used.
@@thessol4201 lol. I don’t even see it as that deep. If i chose boobs. Folks would probably probably accept it. If i choose a face. Nobody questions it. Its a scene i really liked ha. So its the background
22:58 "He has demon ambassadors in town ... he's trying to get peace." No he's not! 2nd half of ep 7, he said he only allowed them in town so he could kill them in revenge for his son's death.
That's not the point. The point is appearances. If he appears to be trying to have them assassinated by a mage, his plan won't work. And he does not know that the "mage" is actually powerful enough to finish the deed. If the unexpected mage failed, his plan is kaput.
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If you noticed on episode 3, originally Zoltraak has a black color as opposed to Frieren's and Fern's white color~
It's still the same Killing Spell BUT Frieren modified it to specifically do lethal damage on demons~ she is as they said, GENIUS~
Plus, Japanese Title Drop on the end there~ Sousou no Frieren~ gives me chills!
In the original manga there is no color difference so while Friren did modify the spell the color change when Qual uses it is just an aesthetic choice by the animation team.
@@CeliriaRosewhich is good since people noticed the difference then.
Frieren's Zoltraak: +40% damage to Demons.😂
She’s probably a genius of hard work from all the useless spells she researches like turning grapes sour and reading grimoires so late into the night she wouldn’t wake up until noon without Fern
I've heard that the title drop can also be translated to the honorary title "Frieren the Slayer".
So a fun detail. The title of the series has two meanings (neither of which is the official one Beyond Journey’s End which is just a completely original title they gave the english version). Sousou no Frieren can be read as Frieren at the Funeral a clear play on her long life and watching people pass away as she lives on but it also can translate as Frieren who brings the funeral or as the series phrases it Frieren the Slayer which is the in world title the demons gave her as the one who has killed so many of them. It’s a neat play on the duality of the series one part somber and melancholic and then one part action and adventure.
Perhaps, with that description, "Frieren the Reaper" might be more appropriate.
in japan "葬送" can be two meanings, can be send her friends to funeral also can mean slay her enemies. 葬送のフリーレン means Frieren who slay her enemies, or Frieren who bury her friends like the title "one Beyond Journey’s End " but conside the story is bittersweet story, one Beyond Journey’s End fit the style
Our language translation goes something like "Friren, the one seeing off on the last journey". Also can work both ways.
Frieren the Undertaker is a bit more accurate, as "sousou" is [properly] sending someone to grave/funeral. It doesn't necessarily mean killing, and it can work with both friends and foes. In the beginning everyone thought the "sousou" term was referring to her sending her friends away due to her long lifespan. Only here do you see the other side of the meaning of the term as it referred to her demon slaying records.
It's just a pity that the English audience never gets the 100% satisfaction of the title drop here due to this whole English title problem. It's like what happened in Attack on Titan, the title drop lost its full impact because the title of the work didn't 100% correspond to Eren's Titan. Yeah you can explain and yeah you can be made to understand. But just like explanation of a joke. it's just not the same.
@@wingw3844 To be correct. 葬送 simply means visiting the funeral or sending the dead off. It's just author is stretching the usual meaning a bit and gives it another context. Demons basically call Frieren someone that visits you to send you off to your grave. They literally treat her as Grim Reaper. I personally think "Frieren of the funereal" carries the 2 potential meanings the best, as it could be understood as "Frieren that attends a lot of funerals" as well as "Frieren that *causes* a lot of funerals"
When Lugner said Draht wouldn't die to underestimations, he was saying that they are so strong that even underestimations should not make a difference and surely would not make him lose his life. That's why they immediately contemplated what sort of strong adversary he must have faced.
Again you three came out with the best reaction out there so far on Frieren 8. I really like the parts where each of you took on a character's viewpoint to look at the same event and analyze the character's motives, actions, and justifications. Really a fun and intelligent discussion overall.
Or it's just a mistranslation, cos the word he actually used meant "careless", implying Draht was fully on guard and yet still died, so the mage he fought was incredibly strong.
I can't wait for the anime to reveal why the demons have been so confident
this episode is when you realize, when Qual was dying, he knew Frieren modified his spell so much so it can't be called his spell anymore.
There was multiple potential factors why Stark and Fern didn't finish demons there. Granat was in really bad shape, so not only he could die from his wound, he might simply end up dying in cross-fire and Fern needed time to cast another spell (that's why Stark was buying time for her in the first place), so he'd need to defend both her and Granat, which wouldn't be that easy since Linie was about to attack them and they did not know what magic she has. Also Fern failed to finish off Lügner and they had no idea how fast he could heal and join back the fray. So basically despite getting the jump on the demons, they still were in disadvantaged position.
So this episode had a ultra cool title drop moment that was completely missed, because title of the series is localized as Frieren, Beyond Journey's End, which granted sounds cool and fits the series and OG title is hard to TL, but that's kinda translator's job. Basically "sousou" in Sousou no Frieren usually means attending a funeral or sending the dead off, so demons literally call her someone that visits you to send you off to your grave. They basically treat her as Grim Reaper. I personally think "Frieren of the funereal" carries the 2 potential meanings the best, as it could be understood as "Frieren that attends a lot of funerals" as well as "Frieren that *causes* a lot of funerals"
Like I have said before, the underlying theme for the last several episodes have been that people, even the demons too, have forgotten about Freiren. That is why Lugner and his gang did not recognize her at the beginning.
That's what i kind of figured. It's as though she's become a fairytale for a lot of people (kinda resonant to that one ep with Himmel and his statues).
@@_syzygy_ yup her and her party killed the demon king and defeated the old demon army. They were OP AS FUCK and she’s had just under 100 years to get even stronger. She’s out here playing NG+ and people don’t even realize lol
loving the characters in this show having high intelligence! Makes the story more enjoyable as it gives logical reasoning to everyone's movements.
A few things reactors, or just people in general miss while watching the show.
1. Graf Granat. "Graf" is not a name, it's a title, in the German nobility to be exact. I'm not too sure what the English equipment is but if I had to guess it would probably be the title of Count.
2. It's not just humans that advance technology, the demons do so as well. They are not as weak as most people seem to believe. Stark and Fern have all the reasons to be afraid of them. Up until this point, both of them have only ever fought against wild beasts and monsters.
3. Fern could not just blast the demons out then make their escape. For one, they have a severely injured person with them, and Stark is already carrying that man, making the potential battle a 2v1. Second, Lugner is unbelievably calm even tho a portion of his body is already gone. Who knows what he could have pulled off then. There was just way too much risk in fighting there, and sending a blast before leaving is only asking the enemy to pursue them then and there, which Fern and Stark clearly don't want to happen.
My take: Demons cannot innovate, they can only iterate. That's why they revere the slow progressive development and despise genius.
I guess people underestimate the demons because Frieren would not fight them or made short work of them. They seem to forget she is already a maxed level character in this series lol.
Also it is easy to say to "blast him" as if the demons wont counterattack, considering there is an injured person nearby.
Yeah, going by dictionary, "graph" is either a count or an earl. Which is the same title AFAIK, but the two words denoting it are different in origin.
I was gonna comment something boring like "elves and dwarves fall under the umbrella term 'humanity' because they co-exist with and contribute to their societies, probably", but instead I'll leave you with this dumb nugget: When Lügner says Draht's in the privy, the euphemism he uses in Japanese is "tearai" where "te" means "hand" and "arai" means "wash", but Draht literally had no hands to wash after his business with Frieren.
"Stark can take them, idk about Fern"
Excuse me, she is being trained by Frieren for the past 8 years and Frieren said she learned 10 years of content in 4, so she's like, decades ahead of any mage her age + the additional buff from being the apprentice of a legend. Fern is basically the daughter of Frieren the Slayer, therefore basically the granddaughter of Flamme the Legendary Mage, PUT SOME RESPECT ON HER NAME 😂
She could 2v1 tbh
They think that because Stark soloed a dragon while the same dragon was unfazed by Fern's pewpew. Tbf Fern hit the dragon's scale (probably the hardest part of its body) while Stark went for its head.
@@jchavs0212 Fern is just unmatch to fight a dragon.
@@jchavs0212 her spell is specialized for demons and dragons are just resistant but it still hurts it
Fern is good but still young. In this world, younger fighters have advantages (even including Aisen as compared to himself), but for mages, older mages would have accumulated more magical qualities (you will see later what these entail) and would do better than younger mages. These demons have been around for more than 80 years after all.
You will see in the next episode or two how these factors play out.
I like how they casually revealed Frieren's massive contribution to humanity's ongoing struggle against the demons. She led the research in analyzing Zoltraak (Soul Track), a demon spell designed to kill humans, so humans now have defensive barriers and upgraded gears that can negate the spell. Then she modified Zoltraak so it specializes in killing demons instead, and have it incorporated into the human's magic system as "Ordinary Offensive Magic", meaning it's an entry-level spell that is taught to every apprentice. Now even a beginner human mage is equipped with a specialist spell designed to kill demons.
Talk about tipping the scale heavily in favor of humans. I can see why demons like Lugner both fear and hate Frieren, and that's not counting how many of them she has sent to their deaths herself as "the mage who has killed the most demons in all of history".
It's funny, because in Episode 3 she explained to Fern that humans analyzed Zoltraak and came up with countermeasures, but she left out the fact that she herself was a major contributor to that effort. I'm guessing she arranged for her contributions to be omitted from that history book she had Fern reading as well.
@@DarwinAwardWinner I actually think Frieren left it as an exercise for Fern to figure out when she reads the book. Their whole conversation reminds me of a student who didn't read her assigned reading before going to class. Every time she says something, the Professor replies "You wouldn't say that had you read my assigned reading." So finally the student read her assignment after class, only to discover her Professor is a pioneer in the field and practically wrote the book on the topic.
@@Ahjenta I've been thinking about this a bit more, and I have a theory: Frieren was 100% truthful when she told Fern that humans were the ones who came up with countermeasures for Zoltraak, because her own contribution was in analyzing the spell and figuring out how it works. Then humans took that knowledge and developed countermeasures, while Frieren took that same knowledge and modified the spell into a demon-killing spell. I don't have any proof for this, but it certainly seems on brand for "Frieren the Slayer".
As for the history books, I wouldn't be surprised if Frieren had arranged for her name to be left out in order to keep the surprise for the next demons she ran into. And it doesn't feel like Frieren's style to insist that Fern read a book just because she herself is featured in it. Even if this is the case, though, it also wouldn't surprise me if Fern was able to read between the lines and infer that Frieren was involved despite not being mentioned by name in the book.
@@DarwinAwardWinner The term "humans" 人間 in Frieren's world can also be used as a catch-all term that includes humans, elves, and dwarves. Eisen, for example, is called the strongest human warrior even though he is a dwarf. So when Frieren says humans deciphered Zoltraak etc, she could mean it as a combined effort from all 3 races.
Considering it was Lugnar who says Frieren is a major contributor in humans deciphering Zoltraak and adapting its use, I think what she did is pretty well known by both sides of the conflict.
Re-watching ep. 3 and comparing it with the manga, it is interested to note that when Qual uses Zoltraak, its black in color and the kanji in the manga says "Human killing magic"; whereas when Frieren and later on Fern uses Zoltraak, it is white in color and the kanji in the manga says "Demon killing magic". It's a very nice touch highlighting the differences between the 2 versions.
@@Ahjenta Oh, that's a good point. It could just be a localization limitation with the word "human".
It was very interesting for me how the title (in japanese) can be interpreted 2 different ways Sousou no Frieren is "Frieren at the funeral", but the demons call her "Sousou Frieren" which is something like Frieren the undertaker, as if you're a demon and you see her you're dead, pretty badass.
In Japanese, both are "sousou no Frieren". No distinction. Sousou Frieren doesn't make any sense.
The meaning doesn't really change. What does change is the context. "Sousou" normally means attending a funeral or sending the dead off. Demons basically call Frieren someone that visits you to send you off to your grave. They literally treat her as Grim Reaper. I personally think "Frieren of the funereal" carries the 2 potential meanings the best, as it could be understood as "Frieren that attends a lot of funerals" as well as "Frieren that *causes* a lot of funerals"
Frieren was surely trolling Dhrat there. 😂
Who else here wants to be looked at by Frieren the same way she looks at Demons.
Freiren's attack magic she taught Fern as "Zoltrack" is actually "Zoltrack +5 vs Demons". I'm not sure if Fern knows that.
Frieren: I’m stronger than you. 😐
Draht: Idk I’m not feeling it. 🤔
Frieren: Kay, get no diffed then… 😐
Dude I thought this anime was going to be melancholic and contemplative AF but these last few episodes were just badass. I also love her 2 companions.
Frieren is the boogeyman of the demons lmao
"Graf" isn't his name, per se. It's a title. Its a German title equivalent to "Count". His family name is Granat.
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Interesting, the next episode(probably) will give us a hint that why demons underestimate Frieren even though she killed many of their kind.
When your master teaches you 'ordinary offnsive magic' then enemies realize it was actually avada kedavra for demons. XD
That first demon has no combat experience and that is why he did not think about restraining Freiren. In his mind, he expects Freiren would focus on cutting his wire. But a veteran fighter like Freiren thinks differently.
They might as well call her Frieren the unaliver 😂
"Strap her legs and arms up"
Frieren: "... You have yet to see or reach The Height of Magic."
@21:15 ... i just realised as you speak about him that "Graf Garant" is not translated in the english subtitles ( it does not stick out in the german subs as it is german after all ; ) ), but you can translate it to "earl guarantor" or "Earl Warrantor". Graf means "earl" or "count".
I was waiting for this! thank you!
Ay Frieren fuckin dope nigga! I'm loving this show! She coming through like prime Buffy! The legendary slayer! I might have to read this after the season ends.
Sussy background 😂
The best part of Frieren: Beyond Journey's End is when she said "IT'S BEYOND JOURNEY'S END TIME" And Beyond Journey's Ended all over those guys.
19:15 I took the he didn't loose because he under estimated her as she's just that strong it would matter if he did or didn't.
That there supposed to be strong enough to just kill anybody , so frierin who killed him is just that powerful, that " he underestimated her " almost downplays her power
2:56 Frieren the Throat GOAT
Frieren: you are right i cant do anything with wire.....but i can chop your hand off.....
The original series is translated as "Frieren the Undertaker"
"Undertaker" makes you think it's about the first few episodes when she's burying her friends
Then this chapter explains the real meaning: she's the greatest demon "Slayer"
I personally think "Frieren of the funereal" carries the 2 potential meanings the best, as it could be understood as "Frieren that attends a lot of funerals" as well as "Frieren that *causes* a lot of funerals". Demons basically call Frieren someone that visits you to send you off to your grave. They literally treat her as Grim Reaper.
5:44 love how adorkable mimics d.nasty antics hahaha
Fern and Stark's Children! Huuu boy thats some strong genes.
I think Draht was surprised because Frieren broke DnD logic by casting two spells at the same turn.
Some interesting info, flyijg mages didnt really exist in this world when the hero killed the demon king, its why the demons are always thrown off by it, so Fern just casual flying is pretty impressive, and Stark doing parkour and flinging himself over the wall also very impressive, both different but just as equally cool feats
Outdated information is a thing but i do believe the demon also finish zoltrak and move on hence the shock that they still hurt from it.
I think he actually peed his pants and then spilled his drink to try to cover it up. That's how it looked like to me because he barely spilled any on him.
Now the Show Has to Be Called Fear-en
- Draht is voiced by Kouki Osuzu who also voices Aoi (Aoi Ashi), Hyoga (Edens Zero), Kanna (Animation x Paralympic: Who is Your Hero), & minor roles
- Linie is voiced by Manaka Iwami who also voices Tohru (Fruits Basket - 2019), Akane (Oshi no Ko), Mahiru (The Angel Next Door Spoils Me Rotton), Efil (The Black Summoner), Lelia (Log Horizon), Himiko (The Ones Within), Chiaki (Gamers), Lykos (Children of the Whales), Chuntaro (Demon Slayer), Nerul a(Akita Maid Wars), Amber (Genshin Impact), Rean (To Your Eternity), Carmilla (Re:Zero), Euphy (The Magical Revolution …), Erina (Re:Creators), Millie (SpyxFamily), Mirai (Dr.Stone), Platelet (Cells At Work), Yuuko (Higehiro), Lakhesh (WorldEnd), Saki (Sirius), Telestia (The Aristocrat's Otherworldly Adventure), Hirai (Mitsubishi Colors), Fear (Danmachi), Hijiri (Asobi Asobase), 11th Seat of the Black Scripture (Overlord), Monica (Seija Musou), Rice Shower (Uma Musume), Harumu (Yuna & the Haunted Hot Spings), Ritsuka (Fuuto PI), Manon (The Executioner &Her Ways), & many more
i really like yall's reactions its really fun and the laughs etc i subscribed and will watch more vids of you guys :D
5:42 to think we could have gotten a doffy type villain.
It's worth mentioning that both Frieren and Fern hide their actual mana levels not only to make them harder to detect, but so that demons will underestimate them.
They don't know that yet. Don't spoile them, that is suppose ti be know in next ep. Delete this
@@HoaTruong-km9rk They have mentioned hiding their mana already. Episode 2 as I recall?
@@jaesaces yeah, but no one actually pay attention to that detail yet. And no one know Dern and Frieren are constantly do it now too. It should be a surprise
Frieren said it's hard to detect Fern presence when they first met
@@jaesacesthey mention fern does, not Frieren, that one is a half spoiler
I love your hair 🤩👍
smile on my face but there is a DEMON INSIDE LOL
Remember freiren pulled a gun on peace envoys in the middle of the street.
So 3 years is understandable.
I hear ya despite different opinions
13:03 "As a man" 😂😂
How my smile faded when i heard demon slayer
Just caught up on all your Frieren reacts. It's been great watching you get closer to the characters and more invested in the plot! Just one question, when you started the series in episode one ya'll reacted like some mistreated dogs at first. You kept expecting the WORST to happen to different characters, like you were afraid of being lulled into a false sense of security. What the hell did you watch before this? 😂
I thought this show was elf to your eternity but it's actually elf girl DOOM
is Frieren really a genius tho, doesn't she just have time, and a legendary master
Anime of the fall season
Frieren out here on NG+ 😂😂😂😂
Frieren, the ultimate villain. Run demons...
8:10 I think the sentence didn’t mean “underestimate her”
That’s just translation 😂
Thanks for this!
Frieren showed up like Gojo Satoru yo
16:54
We *need* a super-cut of you saying "bakano" (however it's spelled0 from all your reactions.
There's Goblin Slayer and then there's Frieren THE Slayer
The EN translatiom secrewed up big this time.
The Japanese title of Frieren is actualy Frieren, The Undertaker.
This infers that she has to undergo the death of all her loved ones.
It's not slayer. Wtf is slayer fr?
So when the demon called her Frieren the "undertaker", he was actually referring to the Title of the work.
The translation is so incorrect and is so anticlimactic to audiences who know the original text.
Cope
Im pretty sure this is the first out of a lot of ppl i see someone see Frieren the Slayer as 'anticlimactic' LMAO
Even me read the original source still think this is pretty hype 'mistranslation' to anime only.
@@yuuta.1013The mistranslation made Frieren look like Goblin slayer. But that would be horrifyingly shallow.
葬送 means digging graves for others, it means mourning, it means undertaking, it forshadows Frieren's immortality. But it does not mean slayer.
There is a reason why the Title of the work is called "葬送"のフリーレン and also why both her allies and foes call her by the same title "the undertaker." And EN translation just threw the topic sentence into the trash can.
This giant plot hole cannot be covered by "oh but I think it's hype."
@@shehmo It doesn't make any sense for a demon to be labeling her with that context though. They don't have funerals, they won't even know what an undertaker is. Even if their bodies didn't dissolve they aren't gonna bury their dead. It's a literal translation that loses the meaning for the sake of preserving a pun. A pun that won't even reach the audience cuz they have a different title.
Also, what allies call her that? Nobody in the story has called her by that title except for a demon. They'd call her something more heroic.
@@originalesp You have to ask the author about the setting. But the word 葬 itself means funeral.
Maybe the author has her own plan, and the last thing a translator should do is adding unfaithful additional context before the author even comes up with the idea, especially when it's the one line that echoes with the WHOLE story.
Write your own story then.
A mage who killed more demons than anyone else in history. Well it is logical since is more than a thousand years old if you think logically. She had more time than anyone else 😂
Are we just gonna ignore that ever since that one episode they been using the frieren feet as the background
The undertaker ❤
18:13 Frieren's a Demon Slayer, we need her to pull up on Michael Jackson
She would actually slam him
@@Nusutto 100% without even breaking a sweat
I would like “Frieren the funeral” more.
Thats a dope one
or Frieren The Undertaker
Stark kinda reminds me of Zenitsu
That background is just feet, and you still haven't changed it, you trying to tell us something?
he has a very public foot fetish
They are unhinged and feral
@@jarueteppen5038 is this a racist remark?
@@dallama2616 how so
its pretty clear what they're trying to say 😆
Despite all the cringe comments, I still enjoy the reaction.
Hear me out.
All 3 Geniuses are Females with names starting with F.
Flamme,
Frieren, and
Fern.
Is this an intentional Character Design that's supposed to be important later on or just superficial?
Unfortunately, that is probably just a coincidence.
To begin with, in the original Japanese version, the characters' names are written in katakana and no Latin characters are used.
You know the anime is 🔥 when you have to pause the show to react AT THE BEGINNING! 🤌🏾 😅
why is the background feet
Why did you notice?
Because it’s a it’s a scene from the anime
If you been on the channel as viewer long enough...you know about the foot fetish. lol
questioning lee's taste is a mistake😂
@@thessol4201 lol. I don’t even see it as that deep. If i chose boobs. Folks would probably probably accept it. If i choose a face. Nobody questions it.
Its a scene i really liked ha. So its the background
22:58
"He has demon ambassadors in town ... he's trying to get peace."
No he's not! 2nd half of ep 7, he said he only allowed them in town so he could kill them in revenge for his son's death.
That's not the point. The point is appearances. If he appears to be trying to have them assassinated by a mage, his plan won't work. And he does not know that the "mage" is actually powerful enough to finish the deed. If the unexpected mage failed, his plan is kaput.
You beautiful girl 💘
英語のタイトルがオリジナルと違うから、色々と残念。特にセリフ。
2 years in jail for frieren is like going in to a cafe for coffee and wait for 2 clients