Just want to give you a huge shout out. Jake literally showed up, trained, and then we just said, "what can we make a video on?" He came up with a topic and we literally just turned on the camera and shot it in one go (only made cuts to pull out the different shoes). Really nice being able to collab and just have a conversation and not have to prep a bunch of talking points!
Two way street, sir! Thank you for having me. Good energy and environment makes for seamless content, especially when we don't need to script things and talk on topics out of our realm of expertise!
I'm a conventional puller and I've deadlifted in a lot of shoes over the years. I've been in Chuck Taylors, Merrell Road Gloves, Sabo Deadlift shoes, Metcons, Notorious Lift, and Vivobarefoot Primus Lite 3s. My favorite by far has been the Notorious Lift Gen 2s. Super light, packs well, and provides solid grip regardless of your deadlift style. I also like the Vivobarefoot Primus Lite 3s but the biggest reason why this isn't my #1 comes down to cost. It's a very expensive shoe. For my sumo pullers out there, I wouldn't recommend the Primus Lite 3s for sumo since the lateral grip on the outsole leaves SO MUCH to be desired.
Nice to see Jake and Brandon hanging out. For me Adidas Total is the best shoe I've deadlifted in, nice flat shoe that works for all my strength training, including squats.
Wrestling shoe's, in particular my old Asics were my first deadlift/lifting shoes, I then went to barefoot shoe's like the Xero Prio's and now I use the Notorious Lift shoe's.
@@thatfitfriend I like the feel and the closeness to the ground as I used to deadlift barefoot. The Notorious and the Xero's are pretty close as far as comfort. I get a lot of compliments from the Notorious Lifts especially when I wear the Cyberpunk editions. I planning on getting the Notorious Lift Radux based off of your videos. Keep up the great content!
Still no need for a niche lifting-specific shoe, at the moment, but always appreciate the content because you never know. 🤷♂️ I do have some Nike Blazer 77's or my Adidas Darksaber Gazelles just in case. Keep up the great work!
I started deadlifting in Vibram toe shoes and the only reason I every switched was because they weren't legal footware in USAPL or USPA because they were treated like flip flops or sandals and labeled 'non-athletic open-toed shoes'. Which I also found hilarious in an infuriating way because some legal deadlift slippers were literally nothing more than some flimsy fabric sewn until a thin, flat 'sole' that would probably teat apart the moment you tried to do anything that wasn't pushing into the floor while stationary.... and those were classified as 'athletic shoes'. The original Sabos and their follow up revisons are pretty great, but I'm currently using the Avancus 1.5s and they're probably the closest I've felt to feeling like the toe shoes. I pulled conventional with the Notorious 2.5s and they felt fine and very flat to the floor and everything, but the rings you tighten the straps against literally snaped in half a few months in just from me walking around with the straps tightened and their customer service literally didn't response about it, so fuck that brand IMO. Rubber sole also wore smooth pretty fast /shrug.
@@thatfitfriend marvelous!!! It was a no brainer for which one to get with the sale going on. Yet I wasn’t aware of how good they are. I can’t wait to try them. I only use a Nike style Chuck Taylor version now for deadlifts.
Many wrestling shoes do not have the split rubber, but a full rubber sole. My son has extremely narrow feet (not small, actually above average length - size EU45), so wrestling shoes are ideal for him for lifting and gym training. He's also a former wrestler, so it makes sense to use the Nike Hypersweep (with full rubber sole) he already owns, at the gym. My husband on the other hand, has extremely wide feet. To the extent that the disproportionate width makes them look smaller than they actually are (size EU47). So, for my husband, wrestling shoes would be a terrible choice, in the same way that many wide barefoot shoes would be a bad choice for my son. So, it is important to remember that feet are different and that different types of shoes can be good or bad for different people.
Haha!!!! 😂 I saw what you did there. you slipped in “cheater”. I have to say, sumo deadlift is harder for me. I know it doesn’t make sense but then again, i’m in my 50’s. I just feel like when my legs are spread out like that, I can’t lift as much even though the actual pull displacement is less thus the amount of work is also less. Currently, I use Xero 365. really great for deadlift. I also use them for running. I would say the biggest down side with 365, it the front of the toe box is pretty and can get beat up and the back of the heal is really awful. It’s not good for agility work at all. However, I like running with the 365 on asphalt.
@@thatfitfriend Just ordered the Tolos 2.0. It will help my bench and I have hit my toes on metal occasionally, which doesn't feel good. The shoe will fix that too. I saved 10% with your code too! Thanks!
I'm guessing you can do RDL in any trainers? As there's no direct pressing on the floor because it's a hip hinge movement. I'm thinking doing it in my project rock 6 trainers. 🤔
@@thatfitfriend I have bought the 8 two days ago but for some reason I feel I'm struggling with keeping my feet in one spot compare to the adidas powerlift 5
I pull in socks, but came across this because im looking to train for a meet in the fall. If i want a shoe i can compete in for deadlift and squat, what do you recommend?
Yeah, lol. I've said that many times. Perform better, look better, have a decent price point. Why would I just be saying that? However, appearance is a factor I weigh heavily, too. What size are you? If you're a 10 and based in the states I have a pair that is lightly worn that I'll send ya!
@@thatfitfriend Yeah I train at home, so obviously I can do that. But if you're forced to wear shoes in a gym, the best is what has the thinnest, flattest sole and allows for the most foot grip to the floor.
@@ThaisRubio-qt4kf Yeah, too lazy to put on shoes even though I have weightlifting shoes, the old Mark Bell power shoes, a bunch of Chucks. I still bang my toes every once in a while but I'm better at it. I have pretty good ankle flexion so I don't even need lifting shoes for front squats.
I think people overthinks the shoe way too much. There is only one factor: do you have good ankle mobility? If you have poor ankle mobility, deadlift in Olympic lifting shoes. It will allow you to start with a more upright back. I’ve actually hurt myself deadlifting in barefoot shoes because my left ankle has piss poor mobility making me tweak my back at the start of the lift. If you have good ankle mobility you should wear something flat or barefoot.
Those two are not related, lol. Also, you can’t say folks overthink it then write out an explainer of how ankle mobility and footwear selection are the reason you tweaked your back. You’re Missing so many other factors by making that strong of a relationship with that, imo. Could have tweaked it due to a multitude of factors and that pull was just the catalyst that caused the tissue to get aggravated after navigating a life filled with a culmination of different stressors. For most, regardless of ankle mobility, pulling in weightlifting shoes is a silly idea and generally sub-optimal. I’d look at the bigger picture before linking those two things together and thinking there’s a definitive relationship between the two in deadlifts and sharing that like it will be true for others. Just my coaching two cents. Also, deadlifting with a more upright back position?
Just want to give you a huge shout out. Jake literally showed up, trained, and then we just said, "what can we make a video on?" He came up with a topic and we literally just turned on the camera and shot it in one go (only made cuts to pull out the different shoes). Really nice being able to collab and just have a conversation and not have to prep a bunch of talking points!
Two way street, sir! Thank you for having me. Good energy and environment makes for seamless content, especially when we don't need to script things and talk on topics out of our realm of expertise!
Whoa awesome collab!!
I'm a conventional puller and I've deadlifted in a lot of shoes over the years. I've been in Chuck Taylors, Merrell Road Gloves, Sabo Deadlift shoes, Metcons, Notorious Lift, and Vivobarefoot Primus Lite 3s.
My favorite by far has been the Notorious Lift Gen 2s. Super light, packs well, and provides solid grip regardless of your deadlift style.
I also like the Vivobarefoot Primus Lite 3s but the biggest reason why this isn't my #1 comes down to cost. It's a very expensive shoe. For my sumo pullers out there, I wouldn't recommend the Primus Lite 3s for sumo since the lateral grip on the outsole leaves SO MUCH to be desired.
Nice to see Jake and Brandon hanging out. For me Adidas Total is the best shoe I've deadlifted in, nice flat shoe that works for all my strength training, including squats.
+1 for the Adidas Total, currently my favorite shoe for all lifts and general gym use. Big thanks to Jake for making a video about them a while back!
Love to hear that and stoked they're still working well!
Thanks guys, just subscribed. About to binge more of your videos. Getting back into pulling after a back injury, this vid was great.
Ayyy, appreciate you! Thank you!
My favorite is my wrestling shoe for all my lifting. I agree that they are narrow. I love the feeling of being close to the floor and I lace em snug.
Big Jake & Big Brandon in the house! Great video guys!
The summer of strong collabs!
Wrestling shoe's, in particular my old Asics were my first deadlift/lifting shoes, I then went to barefoot shoe's like the Xero Prio's and now I use the Notorious Lift shoe's.
How do you like the notorious lift
@@thatfitfriend I like the feel and the closeness to the ground as I used to deadlift barefoot. The Notorious and the Xero's are pretty close as far as comfort. I get a lot of compliments from the Notorious Lifts especially when I wear the Cyberpunk editions. I planning on getting the Notorious Lift Radux based off of your videos. Keep up the great content!
Mannn when the nike free 7.0’s came out I thought I knew it all😂😂 blast to the past
Haha! Shoot I did everything in my old free and used to be on the bodybuilding Misc forums for hours a day then. Simpler times 😂😂
legends! enjoyed the video and the edis are awesome. I miss pulls so much haha. just a few more weeks!
Soooooon!
I started in my Nike Free Metcons then went barefoot in socks but the new gym doesn’t allow it so I have been using my tolos. They work really well.
Love to hear that!
For a sec, I thought the thumbnail said Best Dad Lifting shoe
Lmao, like shoes that dads lift in or shoes for lifting dads off of the ground??
I’ve enjoyed the RAD1 for lifting. Good collab.
Still no need for a niche lifting-specific shoe, at the moment, but always appreciate the content because you never know. 🤷♂️ I do have some Nike Blazer 77's or my Adidas Darksaber Gazelles just in case. Keep up the great work!
Adidas Samba is definitely one of my favorite all around training and deadlifting shoe
Honestly, slept on shoes for lifting
I also wore Free Runs when I first tried deadlifting lol it was awful. And the worst part is everyone was deadlifting in running shoes back then, ew!
Nike Frees are the right of passage its seems, lol!
I started deadlifting in Vibram toe shoes and the only reason I every switched was because they weren't legal footware in USAPL or USPA because they were treated like flip flops or sandals and labeled 'non-athletic open-toed shoes'. Which I also found hilarious in an infuriating way because some legal deadlift slippers were literally nothing more than some flimsy fabric sewn until a thin, flat 'sole' that would probably teat apart the moment you tried to do anything that wasn't pushing into the floor while stationary.... and those were classified as 'athletic shoes'.
The original Sabos and their follow up revisons are pretty great, but I'm currently using the Avancus 1.5s and they're probably the closest I've felt to feeling like the toe shoes.
I pulled conventional with the Notorious 2.5s and they felt fine and very flat to the floor and everything, but the rings you tighten the straps against literally snaped in half a few months in just from me walking around with the straps tightened and their customer service literally didn't response about it, so fuck that brand IMO. Rubber sole also wore smooth pretty fast /shrug.
Stoked you’re liking the AVANCUS!
Yeah, that’s not the first horror story I’ve heard from Notorious sadly
How about TYR DLTA-1High Trainer?
Haven't tried them yet so I can't speak to their performance!
@@thatfitfriend I just purchased the No Bull Men's High-Top Outwork instead. It was on sale for half the price so why not.
@@andrewtanczyk4009 the high top outworks are sick. My fave model ever from NOBULL
@@thatfitfriend marvelous!!! It was a no brainer for which one to get with the sale going on. Yet I wasn’t aware of how good they are. I can’t wait to try them. I only use a Nike style Chuck Taylor version now for deadlifts.
Sad that Tolos only sell to US. Would love a pair.
Many wrestling shoes do not have the split rubber, but a full rubber sole. My son has extremely narrow feet (not small, actually above average length - size EU45), so wrestling shoes are ideal for him for lifting and gym training. He's also a former wrestler, so it makes sense to use the Nike Hypersweep (with full rubber sole) he already owns, at the gym.
My husband on the other hand, has extremely wide feet. To the extent that the disproportionate width makes them look smaller than they actually are (size EU47). So, for my husband, wrestling shoes would be a terrible choice, in the same way that many wide barefoot shoes would be a bad choice for my son.
So, it is important to remember that feet are different and that different types of shoes can be good or bad for different people.
I loved the nike free 3.0 for running
Underrated shoe
@@thatfitfriend I literally ran my first and last marathon on it...great video, really dug the smooth editing
@@NoFate247 Haha, dig it! And thank you!
Haha!!!! 😂 I saw what you did there. you slipped in “cheater”. I have to say, sumo deadlift is harder for me. I know it doesn’t make sense but then again, i’m in my 50’s. I just feel like when my legs are spread out like that, I can’t lift as much even though the actual pull displacement is less thus the amount of work is also less. Currently, I use Xero 365. really great for deadlift. I also use them for running. I would say the biggest down side with 365, it the front of the toe box is pretty and can get beat up and the back of the heal is really awful. It’s not good for agility work at all. However, I like running with the 365 on asphalt.
Epic
I do all my lifting barefoot. Advantage of having a home gym.
Big perk!
@@thatfitfriend Just ordered the Tolos 2.0. It will help my bench and I have hit my toes on metal occasionally, which doesn't feel good. The shoe will fix that too. I saved 10% with your code too! Thanks!
@@markhalstead2386 heck yeah! Thank you so much for supporting, sincerely!
My favorite skinners with insole removed followed by socks
Dig that!
Going to get an updated review on the motus? Remember you really liked decon low for training? Which do you prefer?
Motus, yes. Will likely be live next week. I've never worn or spoke on the Decon!
@@thatfitfriend perfect! Curious to see a follow up!
I'm guessing you can do RDL in any trainers? As there's no direct pressing on the floor because it's a hip hinge movement. I'm thinking doing it in my project rock 6 trainers. 🤔
Pretty much. Higher drops can sometimes feel weird but for most it’s a non issue
I just bought some Nike Metcon 9s for heavy deadlifting in mind (my gym does not allow barefoot training). Did I make a mistake? 😢
Nah, you should be fine! No ragrats
@@thatfitfriend Ok thank you so much
Jake, thank you for a great video. I'd like to ask you, however, why didn't you mention Adidas the Totals
We didn’t have one with us, lol. Also, it falls into that Converse/Vans category
@@thatfitfriend got it :)
How do you feel about Nike Metcon for squatting
The core models like the 7, 8, 9, etc. can be great!
@@thatfitfriend I have bought the 8 two days ago but for some reason I feel I'm struggling with keeping my feet in one spot compare to the adidas powerlift 5
Dude on the right is me during a class presentation
Is that a good or bad thing lmao
@@thatfitfriend lol, just the constant talking to my partner and fast talking. I checked out your latest vid tho, much better! Good job
@@wesndesinc3367 ah, yeah, we were on a time crunch that day and had just wrapped training. Thank you!
I use Avancus. Never going back
Great
I pull in socks, but came across this because im looking to train for a meet in the fall. If i want a shoe i can compete in for deadlift and squat, what do you recommend?
Notorious Lift Radix or Avancus Apex Power.
Both are sick for powerlifting specific training/prep/meets! Can't go wrong with either, imo
@thatfitfriend thanks so much. On a budget I'm trying to piece together equipment that is good, but may be able to serve more than one purpose
@@bradevans8714 go Radix then. You can rock them for other forms of training and casually, too!
hi jake! are the tolos actually better than the xero prios? or do they only look cooler?
Yeah, lol. I've said that many times. Perform better, look better, have a decent price point. Why would I just be saying that?
However, appearance is a factor I weigh heavily, too. What size are you? If you're a 10 and based in the states I have a pair that is lightly worn that I'll send ya!
What? No avancus shout out?
We talk about it in the slippers, Brah! We also tried not to shout out too many specific models expect for a few that everyone knows
Video about lifting shoes I compulsively click
Haha, I'm the same especially with Runescape YT vids.
Wish I could’ve seen more feet pics
You're not getting those for free!
@@thatfitfriend 😂
I've solved that problem by simply not wearing shoes. 😂
I’m a no shoe tugger when I’m not reviewing models and in gyms where I can be. Big feels
@@thatfitfriend Yeah I train at home, so obviously I can do that. But if you're forced to wear shoes in a gym, the best is what has the thinnest, flattest sole and allows for the most foot grip to the floor.
@@thechairman74i also train at Home, do you always train barefoot?
@@ThaisRubio-qt4kf Yeah, too lazy to put on shoes even though I have weightlifting shoes, the old Mark Bell power shoes, a bunch of Chucks. I still bang my toes every once in a while but I'm better at it. I have pretty good ankle flexion so I don't even need lifting shoes for front squats.
@@thechairman74 But for the entire leg routine do you do it barefoot? or only for certain movements?
I think people overthinks the shoe way too much. There is only one factor: do you have good ankle mobility?
If you have poor ankle mobility, deadlift in Olympic lifting shoes. It will allow you to start with a more upright back. I’ve actually hurt myself deadlifting in barefoot shoes because my left ankle has piss poor mobility making me tweak my back at the start of the lift. If you have good ankle mobility you should wear something flat or barefoot.
Those two are not related, lol. Also, you can’t say folks overthink it then write out an explainer of how ankle mobility and footwear selection are the reason you tweaked your back.
You’re Missing so many other factors by making that strong of a relationship with that, imo. Could have tweaked it due to a multitude of factors and that pull was just the catalyst that caused the tissue to get aggravated after navigating a life filled with a culmination of different stressors.
For most, regardless of ankle mobility, pulling in weightlifting shoes is a silly idea and generally sub-optimal. I’d look at the bigger picture before linking those two things together and thinking there’s a definitive relationship between the two in deadlifts and sharing that like it will be true for others. Just my coaching two cents.
Also, deadlifting with a more upright back position?