Our puppy Wasn't ALLOWED On The Plane! (Almost)
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- We took Sami, our Westie puppy, on his first flight when he was 6-7 months old. This is the story of how it went and how, on the flight back home, our puppy almost wasn't allowed in the cabin with us (they wanted us to put him in cargo!).
At the end of this video I also share 3 lessons I learned from this entire experience and I hope it will help you know what to expect, if you plan to fly with your dog too.
Also if you want more info about flying with a dog in cabin, watch our other video: • This puppy flies!!! 9,...
TIME STAMPS:
00:00 - Intro
00:51 - The story of Sami's first flight
03:20 - Videos of Sami on vacation in the island of Crete
03:58 - Our flight back and how Sami wasn't allowed on the plane
08:24 - 3 Lessons I learned from this experience
LINKS:
The small carrier bag we had on Sami's first flight:
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The larger carrier bag we bought recently (Size L)
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Other useful stuff to have on the flight with your dog:
Travel dog water bottle
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Pee pads
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Collapsible dog food/drink bowl
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Did you ever fly with your pup? 🐾✈ How was your experience?✨ Leave a comment below!
I’m about to with my two small dogs that are about 15lbs each, but after hearing the horror stories I’m very concerned…
Yes MiLo flew with us from Frankfurt to Atlanta and from Atlanta to Sarasota, Florida, total : about 12 hours. We were surprised he did so well. I mean not a peep from him. Coincidentally, the carrier on your video looks similar to ours. It was great, Milo was right under the seat in front of us, no problem.
not yet.
Truly it comes down to having a power trip. I never met a misbehaved dog on an airplane, ever! I've seen many humans misbehaving.
Good point, me neither. I hope to see things change for the better in the next few years 😃
I have seen more kids misbehave then a pet in the cabin. So tired of screaming kids in planes.
We are in the planet now where animals are more disciplined than humans ❤
I travel with my 16 pound Havanese in cabin all the time since he was 3 years old. He is now 13 years old. I've flown domestically within the US and also internationally from the US to Japan. Here's a couple of pro tips- size matters. The bag she used in the video was too small. The measurements she went by are for hardsided carriers not soft sided. Most airlines will allow soft sided carriers to be 18 inches long, 11 inches high, 11 inches wide. Get your dog used to going in the carrier ahead of your flight so they can be calm during the checkin/boarding process. If you can teach them how to turn in the bag on command even better if you have to prove to the airline they can do it. Last tip- don't put your dog in the bag during check in. This tip may not work depending on the country you're in. For example in Japan the pet must remain in the bag the entire time they're in the airport. In the USA I never put my dog in the bag at the checkin counter unless the airline staff asks. I wait to when we are moments away from boarding to put him in the carrier. I've flown several airlines and the only time the airline staff required me to put the dog in the bag and weighed at him at check in was recently with American Airlines (avoid them if you can). Most of the time if checkin lines are busy the staff will literally just print the incabin pet tag and place it on the bag a not care if the animal is in it or not. They're not going to hold up the line waiting for you to put your pup in the bag. I travel with a pet stroller and that's where my dog is while I'm checking in. I usually have a family memeber standing with the stroller off to the side, near the counter but not too close by. If they ask where the dog is I just point to where they are. There are some staff that will try to power trip and scrutinize your pet if you let them. Act like you've travel all the time with your pet even if it's the first time and your a nervous wreck. Stay calm and play it cool. Know the airline rules and if your bag and pet meet those requirements dont be afraid to argue your point.
What international airlines from US to Philippines take dog in a cabin?
What is length and height
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what airline do you recommend for USA travel?
I am a retired flight attendant and once the dog has made it pass customer service, the only concern flight attendants should have is that the pet stay inside of the carrier. I’m sorry you had that negative experience.
We were flying with our Westie en exactly the same situation happened to us on the flight back home. She said that next time our dog can't enter the plane cause is too big. Which it was not the case. Honestly I have a feeling that it's depends of the person who does the check. 🥰🥰🥰🐾🐾🐾
Yep, it's definitely up to the person. If it's someone having a bad day, that's all it takes. I'm curious what happened, did you manage to get your dog on board? Did you also have your luggage checked in like we did? 😁
Luckly we were able to fly back home but honestly I am afraid right now to book flight ticket and try to go to vacation with our dog. This year we are going to Italy by car. I love Greece too and its my dream to be there again. Have a nice stay !
@@iwonakukuczka3161 I'm glad you could fly back and I understand your worry. I would feel the same way. It's so great that you are going by car! I love Italy, we also drove there a few times and I hope we can take Sami too next time!😍 I wish you a wonderful vacation!
So true. Because some flight attendant are not 100% profesional. Once I call 911 to help me. It actually work.
Your husband is so smart lol he really said “okay well why don’t you go get our stuff grumpy pants” 😅
I travel with my maltese, who is a little smaller than your westie. We have the same exact bag, and even for her, I feel it's too small, so I purchased another one for our upcoming flight. I don't know what these airlines are thinking with their given dimensions. The only dog that can fit comfortably with their requirements are toy Yorkies. I'm glad you were able to finally board with your fur baby.
That carrier looked way too small for your dog. An average Westie weighs anywhere between 6-10 kg. A small carrier such as the one you have there is meant to hold an animal weighing up to 3.5 kg. That carrier is meant for a toy breed, like a Chihuahua or Yorkie. Your dog’s head is literally the size of the front door of that bag.
not a westie, but i wanted to travel with my bichon and was wondering how strict airlines were with dogs "fitting" in the bag. she has a lot of room in the bag, but she's a little hunched when standing (her legs and neck are a bit long, even though her body is small - she's only 8 lbs). i couldn't believe how difficult it was to find a video that actually showed the dog going in the carrier. anyways, this video was very helpful - thank you!
Thanks for your video! Very useful ❤
A world traveler Westie! Wonderful!
Thanks for the information. 🌵💕
Awesome information. Thank you for sharing. What a cute Westie.
Thanks for the tips!!
OMG! The haircut detail is a good tip! thank you so much for making the video. It helped a lot
Thank you for sharing this story. I enjoy when people use smarts and tact to get them through situations. I am travelling with my dog for the first time in a few weeks for a move.
WOW, this just happened to me a few weeks back flying back from Miami FL to Phoenix AZ, the lady at the desk in Miami was so rude and lacked any kind of disposition to even take a second look.
I believe that these airlines workers are just following their training with zero experience when it actually comes to the dog's well being. NO ONE that is an actual dog owner and loves their pup would ever even consider to put them in the cargo.
Imagine telling someone with their kid, that they are way too big to sit in your lap, so that kid has to go on cargo. Because for a lot of small breed dog owners, their puppy is like their kid. I know it is to us.
Thankfully a supervisor overseeing the whole matter stepped in and said it was fine. Our baby girl weights 9 pounds.
Great video....very informative! Happy travels to you and Sami!
Thank you! 🧡 Let me know what you would like to see in the future in our videos!
Excellent video!!!!
Thanks so much!!
Thanks a lot for your tips! They’re really useful! Have a nice trip with Sami. 😉❤️
Thank you! 😍
Thank you so much, found it so useful!
I'm very happy to hear! Thank you ❤️
I flew with my Westie from Frankfurt to CanCun in 2018 when she was about 7 months old. If I had seen this video at that time I would have made everything possible to take her with me in the cabin but instead she flew 12 hours (plus boarding and unboarding) in the cargo. She was fine but I promised myself I would not have to do it again. Now if she ever has to fly I will follow your helpful advice and make sure she is sitting with me. Thank you for your videos!!
Thank you!!
I have a Morkie and we went on our first flight (4 hrs) because of a cross country move. I used that same bag for the extension flexibility you mentioned. Benji, who is 11 pounds, did great! I ended up not using the extension because I didn't want him in the way when the other person in my row wanted to leave his seat. I would travel with him again but I am looking for another bag with a little more storage and possibly roller capabilities.
I'm looking forward to hearing about your trip with Sammy in the other bag.
Thanks so much for sharing! My Westie will get home on April 22nd. And I intend to travel with him a couple of times a year (we live in France and we go often to Spain).
I am happy you found it helpful! Ah that's great, I wish you good luck. It will be a short flight so that's good 😍
Very valuable lessons there .. thanks for sharing!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you sooo much for sharing your experience, it is very valuable for first time traveling pet owners, ! I’m about to travel with my Shih Tzu and Pomchi next month and they are FLUFFY, so I’m going to definitely trim their hair before we leave. I also got a large Sherpa carrier instead of the medium size for my two dogs. Praying for a smooth experience.
Thank you for sharing your experiences and have a safe trip coming up with your dog. My Cairn Terrier Charlie is above 8 kg hence he never flew but did long car journeys in his carrier and I wanted to take the train with him once but then Covid destroyed any travel plans and still is. Charlie looks much slimmer and lighter with a short hair cut, too and then usually gets compliments (oh he has lost some weight etc) though it’s the same dog 😉so I would agree with you on the „appearance factor“ making a huge difference.
Thank you! 😊 Exactly, a haircut does wonders doesn't it? People thought Sami was old throughout his first year of life, because he looked like a sheep 🤣🙈 And now he looks like a puppy when his coat is extra short.
I hope you get to travel with Charlie soon!
Thank you for your useful videos.
I know very much as one who loves their dogs and travels with them in the cabin how perfectly we prepare for travel for my dogs.
My Santa (chihuahua mix) and I are going to travel to Spain next month.
The first flight from Tokyo to Zulich takes 14 hours.
I cut the long hair of my dog right away.
Thank you for the information
I am glad it helped!
Omg so cute! 😍
Great tips.
Wonderful video and so helpful. My Westie Travels with me. We use the same dimension bag. Sammy is a beautiful Westie. ❤️
I am happy you enjoyed it! Aww, thank you (on behalf of Sami too) 😅❤🐾
I actually put a bigger bag in my carry-on for this very reason, in case there was an issue. I used the same carrier you used and luckily there were no issues. I have a pug.
The advice about the haircut was great. Our Westie definitely looks a lot smaller when he's in the traditional cut rather than floofy. One thing I've always wondered is if you can buy a separate seat for your Westie so the carrier can go in the seat rather than under? Sami is precious!
Thanks, I'm so glad you enjoyed it! 🥰 No, unfortunately the option to buy an extra seat isn't available for pets. They still have to stay under the seat in front and in the carrier bag. Depending on the airline, on how empty the plane is and how nice the staff is, sometimes they can allow the pup in your lap during the flight :) But not as a general rule (and not during take off and landing, when it's a question of safety for the dog).
@@WestieVibesWhat about service dogs?
Thx so much!!!
Wow, this is the most helpful video I have seen for advice about flying with a dog that is on the 'border-line of small,' like my little one that you see in my photo😁. As a terrier mix, she also has that bushy bear hair that makes her seem a lot bigger yet. Every time she gets a hair cut, I remark n how slim she became; I wish I could do the same with just a hair cut.🤣
And the advice about a slightly larger carrier. Every word of advice was so helpful. Of course, I know that it is up to the counter rep. to accept or deny flight, but I really agree that I don't want my dog in the cargo. I might actually give up on the flight if denied.😢
I am so happy to hear you found my story helpful! ❤Haha, yeah they are lucky to be able to slim down with just a haircut 🤣
Excellent tips! Great video! I opted for a larger carrier to squish and a short haircut as well.
Thank you, I am so glad this helped! ❤
Wow! Thank you so much for sharing! I will fly with poodle mix, 15 bs. So I hope my flight will go well. I have a service dog registered in USA but not in Europe. They allowed only service dogs in direct flights. So now I'm in contact with European airline about my transfer flight... probably will fly as pet in cabin, but I have the same situation. Dog is perfectly fine, but can stand only with open top... I hope it will go well...
I wish you good luck on your flight!! 😃 I confess I don't know about service dogs, if they get any special treatment in Europe even if they are not registered here.
However, it depends on the staff that day too. Maybe they will allow your pup to be out of the bag and on your lap. If not, I am sure you can let your dog to be on the floor with the bag open, under the seat in front, let them stretch those legs (while being secured to the bag of course) ☺ I don't think anyone will object to that, as long as your dog stays put.
Thanks for sharing your story. I have a Cairn mix who looks like a black and gray version of your dog. I also had trouble boarding in Athens for an intra-EU flight (ATH-AMS) when the KLM agent weighed her and she was over 8 kg by one kg and the carrier weighed nearly two kg. I had to talk to the manager who let me fly anyway. Stressful! BTW, I don't think it depends on the nationality of the personnel. The first agent was Dutch and the manager was Greek and in general Greeks love dogs and also are very easy going (they don't check paperwork at all when you land there). Normally I go Delta direct when seasons allow for it and Delta does not weigh or care about bag size (the best airline for pets in cabin)!
I remember the time I tried to check a monster bag that was overweight by a bunch. The skycap first said I'd have to go stand in line at the counter and pay extra... this was at LAX in 1997. Then he starts tagging it anyway and says "I'll take care of it". Yeah, he got a 20 buck tip... it would have cost 4x that to pay the overweight bag fee. I didn't even offer the tip first, he offered to take care of it first. Smart business! And the plane took off just fine... I learned just from dragging that albatross around, when I go on a trip and buy a bunch of hardcover books, best to take them to the UPS store and mail them home! Live and learn. Can't do that with a dog. I figure if we're ever well off enough and both retired we can rent an RV and take our dogs with us.
😊 thank you for your story. That flight attendant was just being mean with you and the puppy, because you flew already with him in the same airlines and you didn't have a problem.
Your partner was a flight saver, because the flight attendant realized that it was going to be a bigger problem to get your luggage back to you guys. Well done man. Your puppy is adadorable.
I also want to add that you did a great job of training Sami to go into his carrier, rather than having to force him in. That preparation is so important to reduce as much stress as possible.
Yeah, training helps a lot. I can't imagine having to force them and feeling bad about it the whole time, because they're miserable. 💔 Thank you for your comments! 🥰
Thank you so much for doing this video.
I will be flying from Miami to Mendoza Argentina.
Have a great flight! ❤
Power tripping flight attendant knowing she's the only obstacle and there's no appeal. Great that you used a trick often used by lawyers to drop a case or settle: bury them in paperwork! When she realized you'd rather pull off the flight than put your dog in cargo, and all of the associated hassle that would come back on her - suddenly she decided it was ok. We have never flown with any pets. Actually have not flown at all on almost 14 years - can't afford it lol! We drove to Florida every year for a while but we always boarded our dogs - we had two Westies and an Airedale. We lost the Airedale at only age 10 due to tumors. Our first Westie is still going strong at 13+, our second one will be 8 tomorrow - he's the bully, but we're working on training for him. And our third Westie is a rescue who will be 8 in June. The first two we raised as puppies. None of our Westies fits the standard weight. McKinley the 13 year old is quite svelte but he's 24 lbs, his nickname is Softee. Teddy the almost 8 year old is a whopping 33 lbs and he's built like a little tank. From the side or front he looks no bigger than McKinley, but looking down on them his body is much thicker and wider. And our rescue Ralphie was only about 17 lbs when we got him but he's up to 22 lbs now. He's a great litle dog, the only trouble is Teddy has some dominance issues with him and we're working on it right now with a $$$trainer but it's helping. Before I met my wife 17 years ago, I wasn't a dog person. She had two elderly dogs - a Wire Hair Fox Terrier and a giant (100+ lbs) Oorang Airedale. Both passed away and after just a few weeks we went to "just look" at puppies... lol. You know how that turned out! Annette had been a groomer so she was familiar with many dog breeds, and she always loved Westies so when we spotted the little white 12 week old puppy with a mouth big enough to swallow a rabbit, we were back in business. Wish I could post photos here!
We just flew with our westie for the first time, thankfully with no issues. We have the larger carrier you showed later in the video. The trick with a larger carrier is that it is still soft sided so it will collapse a little when you put it under the seat. I also think it’s a good idea to have the dog calm and fully closed into the carrier when you check in. On four flights, I don’t think they even noticed it was a dog vs a regular carry on bag other then me telling them I had a dog at check in. Great point about the haircut. People don’t realize how small these dogs really are when their coat is full.
They didn't weigh her? In the beginning I used to put Sami inside the bag too, at check in. But now I keep him outside, because this way they only weigh him and no one weighs the bag 🎉 Technically he should be under 8kg with the bag, but really it's probably a little over, so I'd rather not risk it.
You are right, the soft carrier can even bend a little and fit under the seat even if it's larger. I'm so glad everything went well on your first flight with Marley! ❤
It's funny - my wife just groomed our chunkster Teddy - a 34 lb Westie - this morning - and he looked like a different dog when we took him to day care with the trainer. When his fur grows out, it gets very wavy - not a typical Westie look at all, our other two just get long and shaggy. Teddy does look smaller when groomed but he'd be over the limit to fly, in fact all of ours would be.
Sami is adorable
thank youu 🥰
We had a similar experience in flight from Chile to Peru on December 24th for Christmas Eve. My sister had to buy a big carrier and Julieta my westie who at that time was 8 months had to fly in another cabin.
Well, if your dog weighs more than 7-8 kilos is difficult to fly in the same cabin. You were lucky with Sami in that flight!
I have heard that some dogs can fly with you in cabin if there are dogs that supports humans in a physical or emotional way.
Hi Ivonne! 👋🏻Yeah, it's tricky when they are at the limit. Why did Julieta have to fly in another cabin? Didn't she fly with you and your sister?
I know about support doggos. I wish Sami was one 😅 He would be much more free to be with me everywhere. Believe me, I thought about it 😂But thankfully I don't need a support dog so I can't make Sami one.
@@WestieVibes the flight assistant said that the carrier was small, that Julieta needs more space...the same as they told you with Sami. The flight was full and it was Christmas so we had to buy a bigger carrier and Julieta had to go in another cabin. We checked with the captain of the flight if Julieta was really in our flight and everything went well.
@@ivonnevillafana2272 Lucky that you could get a bigger carrier. I never heard of the dog flying in another cabin and I was curious, this is why I asked 😊 I'm happy that it all worked out!
@@WestieVibes If your dog weighs more than 7 kgs or it is not able to fly with you. You have to look for flights that have a special cabin where animals can go. It's like cargo but where they have a special environment.That is how it works with flights in South America like Latam Airlines.
@@ivonnevillafana2272 Interesting, didn't know that😊 Thanks for sharing!
We are absolutely petrified to fly with our Westie. Your story almost brought me to tears. I am in the US, and I can tell you for a fact that YES people DO use bigger bags, but their dogs are always smaller. I also know for a fact that SOUTHWEST airlines absolutely does not delay a plane to remove someone's bags who cannot board the plane. Several times we missed our connection flight due to delays and were totally out of luck. Several cities we were stuck trying to find a hotel. I couldn't imagine what would happen if our Westie was in cargo! He would be stuck in a cage for as long as it took us to fly to him(our original destination) Our male Westie was the runt of the litter, so he's smaller than most males, but still to large like you said...to stand up, turn around etc. I love the original bag you picked that had expansion sides.
Two more things...in the US (in my experience) the strict rules are the area around your feet during take off and landing MUST have no obstruction, nothing laying on the floor (like my blanket was at one time.) AND I. The US I learned that if an animal is put in cargo, the US has a law that animals cannot fly if the temperature is below 45° and above 85°.
We're spending a month in Spain without my sweet baby! January is to cold to fly in cargo -
All vets also say to never drug your dog (sedate) them.
Although I talk to other people who have dogs in the cabin and every single person has told me their dog is on sedation medicine.
I can't even imagine having your dog in cargo and missing a connection flight 🙈 I guess that's one thing that's worse than just flying your dog in cargo; flying them with connection. Nope. I didn't know about the temperature rule in the US. The other rule, no obstruction at the feet, is here too. During take off and landing I would push the bag a little further under the seat in front of me, but while still having eyes on Sami :)
Yes I agree, don't sedate the dog unless really really necessary. It's better to spend some time crate training and teaching them to be calm inside the carrier, instead. It takes time and patience but it's so much better for everyone.
Your trip to Spain sounds amazing! I wish you a wonderful stay and good luck on your flight! 😍
Fight for your dog
@@WestieVibes The worst story I've ever seen about a dog flying in the U.S. is when a United Airlines flight attendant went on a similar power trip and gave the ultimatum of getting off the plane or putting the dog in the overhead bin or missing the flight. Unfortunately the owner didn't follow their instincts and complied with stowing their dog in the bins. Even more tragically, the dog did not survive the flight due to suffocation. He was only 10 months old.
What airline would you recommend for flying with two small dogs? When I messaged Delta they wouldn’t allow two dogs. When I messaged American Airlines they did allow two dogs and you could buy the seat next to you to put the dog under the seat. I am very concerned about the dimensions having to be 9 in height, which I find really weird that the height is shorter than the width/length requirements which is 13 in for width and 19 in for length.
Thank you so much your videos! I have a bigger Maltese mix puppy, she is longer and 7 kg without the bag and the flying is always a nightmare for us. 😅I would also never put her into the cargo. Your videos make me calm down that not just me has this problem in this world. 😂❤
I am so, so glad to hear this! 🤗 I hope you will feel better on your next flight ❤
Hi! May I know what the dimensions of the carrier you bought (the black one at the end of the video) and what is Sami's measurements? I am trying to figure out which soft carrier bag to purchase! thank you in advance for the help!
While I love traveling with my pet as well I am also cabin crew and I definitely have seen horribly behaved dogs. There are stipulations for a reason and you must not hinder on any other passengers comfort. I suggest booking a window seat. First and foremost that is most airline rules is that your dog must be able to comfortably stand and turn around to be accepted. I have definitely seen more horribly behaved kids but sadly there are no strict rules that prevent them from being onboard 🤷🏻♀️
Thanks for sharing! Was the new carrier bag from Amazon ok for the flight seats?
Great videos. What is the size of the black carrier and which store you bought it from? I'm in Portugal as well:) Thank you
We are flying for the first time in cabin as non ESA in a few weeks with Vueling. They have a 10kg weight limit so hoping everything goes smooth although our bag is slightly bigger than the allowance, even though it’s actually no bigger than a normal human backpack. Their website doesn’t specifically state he must be able to stand up, turn around etc either or even he has he be fully enclosed so hoping it’ll be ok but still know it’s a bit of luck and will play on their wording if not 😂. We do have a bigger bag with us as a standby as well as a smaller one (although the smaller he can’t put his head in) sooo many dog bags 😂
I wish you good luck! 🤞🏻✨10kg limit is awesome! Haha, I love how many backups you have! ❤ One thing I want to mention: when you check in, don't put Wylie in the carrier unless they specifically ask you to. This way, they can't see if he can't stand up properly with the bag closed (in case this is a rule). We now take Sami on leash everywhere and we only put him in the carrier after presenting the documents at boarding, right before we step on the plane. This way, no one at boarding can comment on it either. It's worked smooth so far 😊 Looking forward to hear how your flight went!
@@WestieVibes good advice! My only concern is he really really hates putting his head in the bag that we are planning to use, we have to pretty much force it in, even though there's plenty of space, he just hates the first couple of minutes being inside. So were just concerned that if they see us forcing him in they'll say sorry he doesn't fit. But if he's already in and calm we were hoping that would be ok. It's all such a gamble on one person. As an owner, they should trust our judgement as surely noone would torture their dog in too small a bag just for the sake of travelling. Will keep you posted :D
How did it go with Vueling? Our dog would not fit in allowed size so we are going to fly with a few cm higher and longer carrier
@@MrBuzyok we had a great flight with Vueling, you can check out the flight on my video - czcams.com/video/j5GLcKzGIEw/video.html there were people in front of us with bags way bigger than the size limit and they were allowed on no problem. On our second flight we had a slight issue as they first thought our backpack wasn't specific for dogs so had to show them the website for the bag and then they were fine.
Airlines could make $$ with pet flights/pets seating, properly hassle free pet travel. Idk why they haven't do that. We're all animals.
so sorry to hear it happened to you too, not fair.
our dogs are our babies!!!!!!!!!
You both are so cute 🥰
Thank you! ❤
@@WestieVibes I have Westie too I love Westies
I appreciate your video with regard to flying. I have a 30lb. Westie AKC and plan to go to Germany. I have had friends that have flown with their enormous Standard Poodle Sheep Dog mix and just had him laying under their feet. No problem. But as you noted it can turn completely around if you have someone with a lack of patience or something else. I have a letter from my psychiatrist stating that I need to have my dog with me at all times. It is specifically given out so that I cannot be kept off of a jet due to my dog nor kept from renting or living in a building that does not allow dogs.
I want to get the passport for my pal and of course all of his shots. I fly Delta a lot and I am planning on flying business class with the small sliding door compartment available on the Eurobus A 380. After watching your video I am going to go as far as I can to communicate with every agency that I may come across on my way there and back. I cannot thank you enough for your video regarding this subject. I would be devastated if I was told that I had to put my dog in cargo. Not going to happen. Ron; Pasadena, Ca.
Flying with a dog is always tricky. Putting in cargo cabin may be a only solution. Carry on luggage might need to be X ray checked or manually open check.
Great video! 🌺😻🤍We are going for a long, 1 stop trip with my cat. He is a big boy and barely fits within the limits of this torturing carrier, that allowed by airlines. Thanks to you video i got that we can find a bit bigger bag..🤔😌🌻
I am glad it inspired you to get a bigger bag! Truth is, most pets can't properly fit in the carrier limits. I hope you have a perfect flight and that your cat will be comfortable! ❤️
My Westin hates even driving so I haven’t had the courage to fly with her? The fact that westies weight is right at the border of airline’s limit is tricky !
Do you have a link to the slightly bigger black bag?
I love your videos! We want to travel with our westie and I've been doing a lot of research. I am very nervous about her not being allowed. She is less that 13 pounds, but westies are kind of tall. It is hard to find a carrier that she can really move around in. Please let me know which carriers you recommend. Thank you
Thank you! 😍 I'm glad that you want to travel with your Westie!
Oh yes, I think most dogs are too tall to stand in their carrier. Sami has the same issue, so I found that you can get a taller bag (than they officially allow), as long as it's a soft one that bends when you slide it under the seat in front of you on the plane. So I now have the Sherpa Deluxe in size L. He still doesn't stand up properly (his head bends) but it's better than the bag I had in this video. Also, it bends and fits well under the seat, so I recommend it ☺
Good luck on your flight and let me know if you have any more questions!
american airline first class flight asked me to take my doogy home after we got on the plain. i was super upset and i missed my trip
Thank you so much for sharing this. I think the rules are absolutely stupid and people power tripping use it to hate and make people’s lives miserable
What carrier did you buy please.
You did not say what country you are in but if it's only 4 hours to Athens, you are certainly not in the western hemisphere. In the USA every airline is different, every airport is different, and I imagine every country is different in Europe and Asia as well. I can't imagine trying to deal with a situation like that in addition to a language barrier. I used to fly several times a year, almost entirely for vacations and hobbies but since retiring I really can't afford it. We usually board our dogs with our vet, who takes good care of them and they love going there! I sure was never that excited about going to the doctor when I was a kid!
We are in Portugal, yes, it's different from the airports in the USA but unfortunately it's a common thing that dogs need to fit well in their carrier bags. Almost always the bag is too small (in height) for the dog to be able to stand, so that's always a risk we take now.
Aww, sounds like your dogs have a great life staying with the vet when you are away ❤️ We do the same with our dog school, we board Sami there whenever we travel without him (usually short trips) and the LOVES it!
We had a westie, named molly!! We looked her very much however she was a real biter! Will never understand this!!
Also, yes Molly went on plane with us!
So, what happens if you refuse the cargo? Do you have to pay for another flight or do they refund or rebook? I am flying to Europe from California, but it is broken up in Canada on the outbound so my dog can have a break. However, on the way back, it is direct and a long flight, but my little guy can use a potty pad. I booked the flight before I decided to bring my dog (three trustedhousitters chose another place and backed out), so I am worried about the 14 hour return flight. I don't want to have to pay for another return flight that is broken up.
I don't think they refund, you just miss the flight and lose the money. I suggest you take pee pads and take your dog to the bathroom on the flight, lay down pads and hope he pees there. Normally I'd say reduce the water intake but 14h is a long time. You can also have a dog diaper as backup, just in case.
We also fly from Europe to NYC next year! it's a shorter flight, around 9h probably, but still Sami's longest one yet. I know he can hold it for that long, but I'm still taking pee pads with me just in case. Good luck on your flight, I'm sure all will be ok! c☺
What is the size of your bag? It looks big in the video
What carrier did you bought later? The black one? Thanks for the video
Yes, the black one.
Thank you. Beautiful. We had the same experience. It was in India. We flew from Germany to Mumbai. I still keep the airtickets as my husband is traumatized with the whole situation.
We flew beautifully with Lufthansa. But when we landed in Mumbai in transit the captain refused to take our Maya on the domestic flight,. The boarding pass was issued by the ground employee , we spent hours in the waiting hall only to be refused into entering the plane.
Before the boarding pass was issued at the ground counter, the ground airline employee asked me if I had a muzzel for my 4.1 kg dog. I said 'no'. Inspite of that she issued us a boarding pass and we were let through.
So later after like 10 hours or more the manager of the domestic airline, ordered a muzzel for us from a shop outside the airport and we could board the night plane.
Had the ground employee of this domestic airline told us the muzzel is extremly important and that our flight depends on the captain, we would have immediately arranged for a muzzel, (which later was told by the air stewedess, a muzzel is not required) for small dogs. We ended up spending more money to buy a new ticket, saddened about our precious holiday time, frustration at the airport with our little pet......
We do not travel everyday. But the ground employees work everyday. Even if we over-read some of the rules of their domestic planes, its their duty to point it out to us before issueing boarding passes?
How big was that bag?
I was watching a video from a lady that travels transporting pets to and from. The MOST important thing I learned is to follow "their" regulations not what you think or, if your pet is okay. The stewardess was perfectly within her right to deny travel because your dog could not STAND and turn around. The fact that it expanded is irrelevant because the width was not the issue; the fact that other flights went well is also irrelevant because it was at "their" discretion they let you on. I'm happy you got on but rules are rules evidenced by the fact that the end of the video you purchased a taller carrier. Like I explained to the lady whom I was watching regarding TSA approved carriers....you just don't know who you're going to get on any given flight and often, you'll run into that one stickler that can change your entire day on a technicality. There is a lot of "grey area" when dealing with people and she just wasn't having it until she realized that she was about to create a long day for a bunch of people but I do understand her point of view and yours.
I will be training my new puppy to go outside on the grass, but I also want to train him to use puppy pads so that I can take him on flights with me. Do you have any suggestions? My puppy is a miniature schnauzer.
My dog is small-medium so it will be difficult to look for the crate and some about the rules
I flew with my dog- (smaller than the one in the video) for 1- 6 hour flight, 1- 8 hour flight and 1- 3 hour flight. My dog fit fine inside the bag, but to say the dog needs to be in a closed bag under a sit with next to no air flow is crazy.... the rule should be- dog in the bag 30 minutes before and after take off or landing.... as long as the dog is quiet and not bothering anyone....I am not sure why on long flights (more than 3 hours) it should be in the bag the entire time.
Hi, what airline was this?
it happened to me too, i was sooooooooooooooooo upset
Thank you very much your vdo really helpful. Im going to have a flight with my cats .....really...anxiety...😱😰😰
I wish you good luck! It's going to be ok 🥰
What do you do for work
omg i didnt know bout this im worried now
Thank you so much for your informative videos! I hope you see this, I have a question about what airline did you fly on and if possible, what type of aircraft, for ex: Boeing 777-300? I'm flying from Dubai-Los Angeles on KLM Boeing 777-300 and 787-10 and I'm trying to find the max carrier size I can take her. From head to bum she is 48 cm, chest to bum shes 40 cm. Her height is 35 cm, width is 15cm. 4.4kg. KLM requests 46 x 28 x 24 cm.
It’s so stressful finding a suitable bag 😣
What airline?
What a great tip- get your dog groomed right before traveling. My little Westie, Ruthie, is much smaller looking after she's been groomed.
Yes! Learned the hard way unfortunately 😅 Exactly, when their hair is grown they can look much bigger than they really are 🥰 I'm glad you found this tip useful for your Ruthie!
Anyplace that doesn't welcome my dog won't get me or my money.
Do you stop feeding Sami the night before an International flight? Did you need to give Sami any medication to keep him clam and relaxed?
Yes, we always skip the meal the night before and hold back on water in the hours before the flight. Then after the check in, I give him food and water in small portions. I never needed to give him any medication, but if you do, I will share what our vet recommends, which is CBD oil. And always test it in the days before the flight, to avoid any suprises :)
How tall is Sami? Or, how tall was he when you flew with him.
I can't tell you exactly how tall, but when he stands in the bag his head is down and his back touches the upper part of the bag. So he is quite tall!
That woman wasn't dog lover. I will never put my furbabies in cargo. I am worried coz my dog is 9kilos, and one of the rules she must be 8kilos. I don't like the size for bags it's too small but we have extra bigger just incase we can change. This is big help for me. Thanks for sharing. One of the things im worried about is our 2nd flight, its 12hrs. How they gonna pee. I hope they'll let them go out to stretch.
We never flew for 12h, but here are my thoughts: bring pee pads with you. Take your dog to the toilet on the plane, in the carrier, and lay down a pad and take them out to stretch their legs. Give them a nice massage for blood flow.😊 See if they pee as well.
Limit the water intake before and during the flight (give them just enough to hydrate, but not as much as they' d normally drink).
Maybe get a diaper and put it on your dog, so that in case they pee in the carrier at least they pee inside the diaper.
Good luck and I hope all goes well! ❤
@@WestieVibes Thank you so much. I hope they will allow them to pee inside the toilet.
Which airline was this
Aegean Air, the official airline of Greece.
Hi! I'm flying with my dog out of Heraklion airport. He is a little over 8kg. We usually have no problem passing the check-in, but I'm always worried. Would you please let me know your experience in Heraklion airport? Thank you!!!
Hi! When we flew with Sami out of Heraklion he was about 7kg, so he wasn't at the limit (even though he looked huge haha). But the people there were really nice and I have no complaints.
Our unpleasant experience was in Athens back then, on our layover. However this year, when we flew back from Athens, they didn't even weigh him, they were so sweet. So I guess it's always about the people, but I'd say most of them are dog lovers and chances to meet someone like we did back then are slim ☺ So I hope your flight goes well with no issues!
@@WestieVibes Thank you so much for the reply! Best wishes for your little one 💜
@@WestieVibes can I ask you one more question 🙈? When you were flying out from Heraklion, did they weight him? In the check in did you have him in the carrier or on the ground? Thank you so much !!! We are going to Middle East and I’m feeling so anxious
@@annachouprinova1561 Yes, they did weigh him. I learned to not keep him in the carrier during check in. So the best is to bring him on leash and hold the carrier separate. They usually ask to see it but don't ask you do put the dog in it (and they don't weigh it)🙂
@@WestieVibes thank you for the reply! He is 8.5 kg without the carrier.. I’m really hoping we can pass
Airline name,,?
I am trying to fly with my Havanese who is 16 lb but very long. How big is your pup?
He is 7.5 kg (we diet before the flight). I don't know how long he is honestly, but he fits in the standard flying carrier. Is your pup too long for the bag?
@@WestieVibes well she is very long and it’s hard because that makes her look big in the bag. I am trying to train her on it but it’s difficult. So far she isn’t a fan
I fly with my Havanese all the time. International and domestic flights no problem. We've flown from the U.S. to Japan several times. The carrier in this video was on the smaller size. Most airlines require soft sided bags to be no bigger than 18" long, 11" high, 11" wide. The dimensions she went by are for hardsided carriers.
How many kilos is sami if may I ask?
He weighs 8 kg normally, but we diet in the weeks before the flight so he's around 7.7 by the time we fly 😅
Did any of you travel with a mini poodle? Have you had any bad or good experiences? Maybe some tips too :) thanks!
My toy poodle Sammy has long legs...i so worry about flying to Russia and back
Flight attendants or crew have no say in this matter after tickets have been purchased and All the Regulations have been followed! they cannot push their “personal feelings “ on the Pet traveling
What airlines?
Aegean Airlines.