How to Effectively Boost Your Volume for Solos
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- čas přidán 26. 10. 2016
- In this video I'll tell you how to How to Effectively Boost Your Volume for Solos using simple EQ pedal.
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Can I just thank you for making your video clear and to the point, you're an actual legend bro.
So many peeps spending 20 minutes playing demos that all sound the same!
Thank you for the kind words! I do agree that some guys are really busy trying to show off their chops instead of getting to the point. At the same time, some of these guys are pretty amazing, so I don’t mind listening and discovering new talent.
Slash did this during the Use Your Illusions world tour in the 90s. His lead tone was just his guitar running into the Silver Jubilee which had the Ge7 in the loop for solo bost & tone shaping. Worked perfectly.
I was doing this for years. I played a lot of gigs where the soundman was too busy picking up girls or having a sandwich. Lol! Thanks for the info!
I just bought a orange th30 and was thinking about taking it back just for that reason. I can’t wait to try this! Thank you!
One of the most useful videos on youtube!
Thanks!
Thanks for the idea.
Thanks for the info bro
Great Tip brother. Love it. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks! Sorry for being slow on the reply. I'm starting the channel back up soon.
I've seen this at a Morblus gig. Roberto Morbioli used it also for boosting his Tele.
Cool trick. 👍
You can run your tube screamer @ 12 o’clock for a heavy rhythm thru the EQ which is set for that perfect tone but the vol of the EQ is set low. This pushes the screamer less and gives a nice chug. Stomp the EQ pedal off to play lead at the full potential of the t.s.
That's a great suggestion for a lead boost for gain, but it's not how you would run it through an efx loop. The goal was to increase the actual volume of your guitar.amp for a solo. That could work through the front of a clean-ish amp, but that's not really what I'm trying to accomplish here.
Well dude.....I just spend about 3 hours trying to figure out a solution watching endless videos whether using an EQ pedal for volume boost was the simplest solution or not....and BAM....you couldn't have done a more effective and quick video to sum it all up! Thanks a bunch, it was perfect and right to the point.
You also mentioned you weren't endorsing any pedals, but it would have been nice if you went through a few different pedals to give us your feedback and personal experience using them!
Any who, great job!
Hey, thanks for the comment. I wasn’t really trying to review a product, just trying to help the community. That said, I have used a few eq’s to do this, but I like the Boss because it’s also buffered.
Thanks! Sorry the reply took so long.
Personal stuff got in the way. Glad this was helpful.
You could use any clean booster or any drive pedal with the gain turned down.
But an EQ like he showed is really good for this because you can also sculp your tone. You can even have a fatter, warmer, boosted lead tone by removing upper mids and highs while boosting overall output.
Perfect advice for me😊
tq for the tips
Wow! You might have saved me from misery all these years! OMG! Thank you!
The Effects Loop! UGH! Brilliant! You just solved my problem! Good Lord, I'm "The Sometimes Slowly" Poster Child! Thanks!
It's kind of a no-brainer when you think about it. Some amps even have a switch to turn the loop on and aft, so if you're a "no pedals" guy, you can leave this back by your amp and just use your footswitch instead. Set it and forget it.
This is what I've done for the last 15 years. it works a treat
It’s a pretty simple trick. I showed it years ago to a friend at a gig and he wanted to kiss me. Lol! He loved his amp but needed the shaping and level for solos to cut through.
This is one of those ninja tricks every guitarist should know. And it works better than any built-in boost on any amp I've tried (sorry Mesa). A nice advantage of the EQ versus a clean boost is that you can shape it. Any volume boost in the effects loop can sound boomy so you might want to cut the lows. It looks like he has a low cut in the video, actually. A little mid hump is nice too.
Ive done both. I might be the only guy in the world that actually likes the fact that the EQ is buffered. Helps with cable runs and noise. Also, you are correct about the tone shaping. It can really help cut through a mix.
Just subscribed from Italy! I need it 20 years ago... ;-)
I actually started doing this 15 yrs ago! Thanks!
Hey brother, your bud Uncle Neil here. Your videos are always so innovative, thought provoking, and easy to follow. I hope every guitarist checks out this channel because you have so much to offer to both beginners and seasoned guitar veterans alike.
So honoured to know ya, and call ya friend.
Continue to inspire MV.
Neil, you are the best my brother!
Thanks Neil!
Great!
Thx for this info. Trying this next gig!! U da man
Thanks! Just trying to pass on some (hopefully) useful info.
Glad this was useful.
Thank you!
Your welcome!
I learned this with an old jackhammer Marshall comp in the effects loop of a crate blue voodoo.
That will work as well. I think I read somewhere that Ron Thal(Bumblefoot) uses a comp to boost solos, but not in the loop.
DUDE thanks ! !
Thanks,, I’m hoping to start this back up and just show some simple tips that sometimes get missed.
Damn! Thank you for this video... This is exactly the solution I was looking for... "The four channel" solution that is! Awesome, thanks!!!!
dude this is my holy fucking grail of gear problem solving. thanks
Glad it helped. Almost all amps come with a loop these days, and who really trusts the soundman? Lol!
Where abouts in the fx loop do you place the pedal? I have mine in the front of the amp after using a soulfood overdrive for a clean boost. I have found when i have my delay pedal on as well, the delay pedal is unheard. Any information to help would be great thanks. Andrew.
Personally I think the boost pedal should go after your delays (if it can), then the signal entering the delays does not overload the delay unit. It could be this way no matter whether your delays is in the effects loop or not.
Yeah, I've done both. I think it depends on the settings and type of delay/reverb, but why not experiment?
What if you are running an amp dirty (pre 8, power 8). Is there still room to boost volume?
I need this to boost my clean channel since I have to roll back my volume on my guitar since I have high output pickups that have grit on the clean channel
I have fairly hot pick ups as well on a different Les Paul, so I put a pull pot on my volume to split it to single coil, and that works quite well.
What if I use my pedalboard in front of the amp rather than in the effects loop?
Are you playing into a clean/semi-clean amp? If so, you should get a boost until you overload the front of your amp. After that, it wont get louder, just more compressed.
Unsure if you're still monitoring the comments, but here is my question....let's say I have some pedals I run into the front of the amp, and I put an eq in the FX loop. Are you saying you have 4 cables total? one for guitar to pedals, one for pedals to amp, and two for fx loop. And if so, is that not messy? What I mean is.....do you/did you have a long cable running back to your pedal board for that one pedal, and then back to the FX return?
It’s called the 4-cable method, and yes, that’s pretty much exactly how I run it. My guitar goes into my pedal board, then input of my amp, then out of the amp send to my board, the n back to the amp return.
You can find a 4-cable loom from certain cable makers. I use one from American Music Supply(I’m not endorsed, so look anywhere). Hope that helps.
Can I control the level of boosting volume?
I have a booster, I put it after the distortion, but it was so loud when I was boosted
If you use a clean amp and use a pedal for distortion, put the eq pedal after the distortion and use the level control on the eq pedal to set your boost level.
This is if you are running into the input of the amp.
If you are using a dirt channel on the amp, the eq pedal goes in the loop and you use the level on the pedal to adjust the boost.
Can you use a clean boost pedal instead? Would it add gain or work just like the boss eq pedal if it is in the fx loop as you advised? thanks!
Yes, a clean boost would work perfectly well.
Oh, I should add that a clean boost will just boost/cut the overall amp level. No true grit gain change. The eq pedal allows you to shape the tone a bit as well(cut bottom, add mid range).
How do you plug everything in though?
Your guitar goes into your input like normal. The send of your amp's efx loop goes to the pedal input, and the pedal output goes to your amps efx loop return. Turn on your pedal and set it for the desired level change, then turn it off for normal level.
how about using a boost pedal? isnt that much cheaper than eq pedal?
Any pedal that you can set a volume boost with will work. I just happen to like the buffer and tone-shaping options with the EQ
Greetings. Would you know if this technique is used in studios as well. Does the engineer increase the volume of the solo guitar over and above everything else. Or does the engineer reduce the other instruments volumes instead. Thanks!
If you are recording in a multi-track studio, a solo can be raised during the mixing of the recording. Most solos tend to be over-dubbed(recorded separately after the rhythm guitar has been recorded). If you are recording “live off the floor”, you could use this technique, but it’s more for live performance.
@@michalevassos8123 Got it thanks.
Where and how if u run your pedals with a switcher, in my case Mken Gec9? All slots are filled...currently using Katana clean boost as last right before Amp.
Are you running the Gec 9 into the amp input, or the 4 cable method?
The key to this is the boost pedal runs in your loop.
What if I want to make it louder and a bit more distorted
This is a tough one. You can’t do this with an overdrive in the loop because it gets super-noisy(it’s not designed to be used that way), and just doesn’t sound good. If you use a boost or drive pedal in front of the amp, that will give you the added dirt but not the volume boost. Hmm. Okay, I have used a volume pedal in the loop, and have it set for rhythm (heel down) and lead (toe up). Then I have an OD in the input of the amp to add grit. It’s a bit of a tap dance. I’ve also used a dual pedal by Carl Martin that ran into the loop and into the input and you step on both the switches at once.
You can put an overdrive in the loop with a noise gate immediately after it - both being in the loop. You'd have to step on both at once. The gate will cut the noise from the dirt pedal. Don't clamp the gate too hard though, you'll kill your sustain. Conversely, modern bands are using two gates in this manner with their modelers precisely to over clamp for tight rhythm playing. I've tried it, it's very tight gating, amazing, seems unnatural at high volume, but you can get addicted to it.
@@jfo3000 I've tried sticking a drive pedal in the loop and I really didn't like the results. OD pedals aren't really designed to work this way. They don't sound very musical when adding grit to the return on a loop. I can't comment on the modeler/gate. I've never done this. I have used a gate on my old GT 8, but that was strictly for noise not clamping. One last thing I forgot: If you are running your amp clean or close to clean, you can stack OD pedals. That will get you the dirt AND gain boost you desire.
Thoughts on playing rhythm on 6 volume roll to 10 for solos?
If you are playing fairly clean, this would work to a degree, but you don’t have the control. If you play fairly dirty, the amount of overdrive will increase, as will the amount of compression. So the volume increase may not be the amount desired.
The separate level control on the boost gives you more control.
@@michalevassos8123 that's fair from what I've experienced.
I'm actually working through your example - what I'm noticing is while my overall volume is boosted - it's boosted clean ( because the effects loop is before the preamp ). So my tone is significantly different - but louder. Does this make sense?
Use a drive pedal insread of EQ to also add a little drive if needed.
What amp are you using? Almost all amps have the loop between the pre amp and power amp sections.
your effects loop is not before your preamp
hi how should i boost my volume for solos while using the dirt channel of an amp without an fxloop?
This is a tricky one. If you use a lot of pre-amp gain, the amp won't really get louder when you push it with a drive or clean boost, it will tend to get dirtier and more compressed. If you back off the pre-amp gain to more of a crunch, you will see a slight boost in volume when you push the front of the amp with a pedal, but that crunch tone may not be useable for some of the songs. I have used a switchable attenuator between the head and cabinet of an amp with good results, but it's expensive.
Out of curiosity, what kind of amp are you using?
Or an age old trick: Turn your guitar volume knob to 50%, raise the volume on your amp to the volume for the acoustics of the room, then just put your guitar volume knob to 100% for the solo. make sure you do a sound check of both rhythm sections and solo though. but it's the free alternative. you do lose some of the crispiness on high gain this way though, so be mindful of that.
@@SamH980 From my experience I also notice that with the volume knob you lose some grit if you're using a drive pedal/the amp's dirt channel. Been using the knob on 8 for my base volume, the sound guy keeps telling me I'm not loud enough on the solos!
@@CDI647does your amp have a rhythm and lead channel seperately that are essentially the same sound when levels are equal? If so just use one on normal room volume and the lead with extra volume on the amp. For this I personally have a laney Ironheart 120. 😉
If it’s a one channel, no loop amp, there is no easy fix. I put a loop in my JCM 800 and it wasn’t cheap. That said, it takes my amp from recording only to usable in all situations. Some people get all bent out of shape about modding an amp, but unless this is a super-rare, super-expensive amp, you have bought a tool you can’t use. The easiest way is to run the amp fairly clean and then use an OD or dirt pedal you like the sound/feel of for your main gain, then use the eq pedal AFTER it as a clean volume boost. This way you can set it so the solo boost is where you and the sound man/audience can hear it.
Great idea! Except when you play in a AC/DC band and can't stop to turn on a pedal for a solo lol :P
Ha ha! I totally get it. Chances are if you're doing Angus, you're plenty loud already. Some of this is when the sound man isn't your best friend...
just curious, why can't you just step on this or any pedal when playing AC/DC.... Not sure im following you on that...
Hello Thanks for The tip, but sadly my amp hasn't an effects loop, would This work if I use it in The input of The amp?
Depends on your amp/distortion pedal: on a clean amp/light crunch amp yes, but it will add a little more gain. If you play hard rock/metal or if you use a lot of gain from your amp/pedal it won't do the work because it will only increase the gain
You may be able to use it to lessen your volume a bit before input (for rythm) then turn the eq off for solos?
Both good comments. If you boost into the input of your amp, it will add dirt and compression, but very little volume boost. If your amp is set for your lead gain and volume, you can decrease the gain by using the pedal to attenuate or decrease the input gain, but by the time it lowers the volume you may not like the amount of gain. Maybe run the amp clean and use a dirt pedal for dirt, then the eq AFTER it to boost the volume.
...and if you have other pedals in the loop (like delay and reverb) put them BEFORE the eq!
True! I should have mentioned this, although I've done both with interesting results.
Or you can do what the pros do and have every member in the band listen, pay attention and play under your solo as they would play just under the vocalist when they sing.
Booster mids you'll cut through the mix!
That is so not what any pro band does. but ok.
And if the pedal you're holding is the pedal I think it is, then it's buffered as well.
Which I prefer, so any long cable run gets negated.
Me too Michale. True bypass can actually work against you when you have a longer effects chain. Buffered pedals boost the signal to keep the level up as your signal runs through all the effects.
Also good if you do have a sound man but he keeps passing out.
Were you at my last gig? Lol!
I've encounter this!
Nice Boss GE-7 😂😂
Shhh. Lol. Yeah, I like this one best for this t
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Why not use a volume pedal?
You could do that as well. I have a friend of mine who does that, but I just find that once you have the volume and tone shaped the way you like, you just set it and forget it. The volume pedal can get a bit tricky .
thats not what a volume pedal is for. despite the name of the volume pedal nobody uses one as a volume boost. only to go more quiet. If you were to set a volume pedal at say 80% as your main tone and put it to 100 for solos. good luck getting it back to where it was exactly after the solo. And even if you could. thats so much more work with your feet. why bother?
@@WickedJester77that's exactly why you only have 500+ subscribers
@@Worstnightmare12343 I don't understand your meaning. I don't make any content. I don't have 500+ subscribers. So.
Change your tone knob to another volume knob
Hmm. I'm not sure I understand what you mean?