Unbelievable MTG Blunder in Pro Tour Finals

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  • Unbelievable MTG Blunder in Pro Tour Finals. Bob Maher Jr (Oath of Druids) faces off against Brian Davis (Necropotence) Game 2 at Pro Tour Chicago 1999.
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  • @NikachuMTG
    @NikachuMTG  Před 2 lety +302

    At 5:15 Bob uses Impulse correctly and doesn’t shuffle (despite the card text). This is because Impulse was printed with a typo; after you put the cards on the bottom of the library, the shuffling is redundant. So Impulse got an errata to ignore the shuffle at the end. I should have used a different graphic.

    • @matthewmihajlovich4390
      @matthewmihajlovich4390 Před 2 lety +6

      according to what i can find on the card Impulse, the errata causing you to not have to shuffle your library was not put in until october of 2004. Since this game according to your description was played in 1999 that would mean it was played before the errata meaning it was played incorrectly as you still had to play with the way it was written on the card.
      or am i missing something in my quick goggle search of the card and it's rulings.

    • @matthewmihajlovich4390
      @matthewmihajlovich4390 Před 2 lety +2

      @wes coble which is why im trying to figure out when specifically it was changed. i could only find something dated 2004 you seem to have something that predates 2004. but even in your timeline it is somewhere between 1998 and 2000 and since this game was played in 1999 it could have been misplayed here.

    • @wetlemon0532
      @wetlemon0532 Před 2 lety +1

      Glad to see i came into the comment section, just to say it was a misplay for it to already be explained haha.
      Thank you

    • @alexandersepa3037
      @alexandersepa3037 Před 2 lety

      I like how you like your own comments XD

    • @Exile559
      @Exile559 Před 2 lety +1

      Impulse has always been a bs card.

  • @notrkm
    @notrkm Před 2 lety +457

    this just shows how high tier pro level magic is. This is a "unbelievable" blunder but it's also something that is perfectly understandable and a mistake that lot of magic players can understand making.

    • @fallendeus5641
      @fallendeus5641 Před 2 lety +32

      Thing is though, let's say he is trying to play around a counter spell in hand right? He drains for 4 gets countered, still is at 6 life, plays niv disk (tapped until his next turn) next turn he gets hit by the crack back for 11, game over. This was the all or nothing turn.

    • @noahcarroll4944
      @noahcarroll4944 Před 2 lety +17

      This also shows how Nikachu is starved for content. He's basically reuploading a video he already made. Gotta pay the bills somehow, I guess

    • @bgmephisto
      @bgmephisto Před 2 lety +11

      @@noahcarroll4944 he can put up whatever he wants whenever he wants, thats life Noah.

    • @NikachuMTG
      @NikachuMTG  Před 2 lety +55

      This is game 2 of a 5 game match. Last video was game 1.

    • @Beethoven8335
      @Beethoven8335 Před 2 lety +1

      @@NikachuMTG what was the title of that video? I haven't seen it yet.

  • @mikotagayuna8494
    @mikotagayuna8494 Před 2 lety +680

    I know that many of your videos have shown this but seeing players riffle shuffle decks containing some of the most revered cards in MtG history for 19 minutes makes me feel like my soul is leaving my body.

    • @calebcaperton9459
      @calebcaperton9459 Před 2 lety +56

      At the time, they where just game peices like many cards are today.

    • @thewilsonexperience
      @thewilsonexperience Před 2 lety +20

      I played in a tournament yesterday where a player had a visibly half oval deck. My opponent shuffled at the tips like you do a deck of playing cards except they're not. The cards could of been proxied, I'm not sure, but it was uncomfortable looking at a deck of pringle sleeves with pringle cards inside.

    • @commiecomrade2644
      @commiecomrade2644 Před 2 lety +36

      @@thewilsonexperience Its uncomfortable to see people say "could of" - what do you think that means? Magic requires quite a bit of reading so its troublesome to see players saying "could of".

    • @mrosskne
      @mrosskne Před 2 lety +13

      oh no muh cardboard

    • @christopherhammond5142
      @christopherhammond5142 Před 2 lety +13

      They weren't really worth shit back then. Quite a few of the tournaments I played around then wouldn't even allow sleeves, not to mention that we didn't have easy access to sleeves of the questionable quality of Ultra Pros at that time.

  • @darkmatter32x
    @darkmatter32x Před 2 lety +128

    Game 1 in our LGS. My opponent has 3 life and has Karn Liberated on the field with 2 counters. I was obsesed at removing his planewalker that I bolted it instead of the player. :(

  • @sethputnamscrackpipe6204
    @sethputnamscrackpipe6204 Před 2 lety +255

    So weird seeing ppl play with no sleeves. I remember playing back in the day with revised cards and the early expansions with no sleeves and it makes me cringe thinking how much damage my friends and I did to our cards. Holding decks together with rubber bands full of OG duels and moxes😬

    • @GraemeGunn
      @GraemeGunn Před 2 lety +6

      Yeah it's really tough to see, let alone think about lol
      I wish I had all my old cards still.

    • @Kuronosa
      @Kuronosa Před 2 lety +15

      There was also a time where they couldn't sleeve for feature matches, because the cameras had difficulty displaying the cards through the sleeves.

    • @Y2KNW
      @Y2KNW Před 2 lety +7

      I bought 2 moxes off a friend just to save them back in the very late 90's. The Jet's not too bad but the Emerald looks like it lost a fight against a belt sander.

    • @chancylvania
      @chancylvania Před 2 lety +1

      How do you even shuffle without sleeves? They’re all flat so it would make real shuffling a pain and damage cards quite a bit

    • @sethputnamscrackpipe6204
      @sethputnamscrackpipe6204 Před 2 lety +6

      @@chancylvania we used to pile shuffle. Back in he day we did more damage to our cards from rubber banding them and playing on harsh surfaces… all without sleeves. I remember when sleeves were first introduced some of my friends saw them as a “waste of money”

  • @TheSilentScream94
    @TheSilentScream94 Před 2 lety +134

    Even after 1 minute. Seeing those cards unsleeved... instant heartattack.

    • @MCMCvirguleMC
      @MCMCvirguleMC Před rokem +3

      That shuffle with Dual lands. I think I sprained an eyelid.

    • @Nakira27
      @Nakira27 Před rokem

      was thinking the same

    • @derekstoughton7894
      @derekstoughton7894 Před rokem

      That was the first thing I noticed as well. I cringed.

    • @MoikHorst
      @MoikHorst Před 10 měsíci +3

      but this is the real way to play magic!! idc how much worth a card is. i want to play a cardgame. its stupid to give a card an absurd price so noone can rly play it. makes no sence to me. this game is a cardgame and not a money bank

    • @Canadianvoice
      @Canadianvoice Před 10 měsíci +4

      Imagine playing a game because it's fun and not worrying about the resale value of your fun.

  • @dashleyfox
    @dashleyfox Před 2 lety +34

    I don't play MTG, but these videos are fascinating to me and you do a great job explaining things so that even someone like me can understand what's happening. Great work.

    • @antonyduhamel1166
      @antonyduhamel1166 Před rokem

      I agree, but I find Nikachu to be a little too patronizing. The tone of voice he continually uses just grates on me. It comes off as "how could you EVER have made that mistake?! "I" would NEVER have made THAT mistake!" And that's really arrogant. It's the one thing that keeps me from subscribing to him.

  • @burningpapersun1
    @burningpapersun1 Před 2 lety +63

    On a stage at that level it's easy to say this was a huge mistake. He was playing what he thought were the correct lines and got blind sided by a random swords to plowshares. I'd scoop after that too. Playing off meta was a great choice in that moment.

    • @Chubbies34
      @Chubbies34 Před 7 měsíci +2

      But it wasn’t a correct line. He holds back the magic for the disk for what reason ? If it got countered he’s dead on board anyways with a tapped disk. So it doesn’t even matter if he plays the disk 😂

    • @graog123
      @graog123 Před 5 měsíci

      ​​@@Chubbies34 re-read the comment you responded to. the statement was that it was thought to be the correct line & he wasn't dead on board, Nika discussed that

  • @ChrisoManiso
    @ChrisoManiso Před 2 lety +5

    I like that Nikachu finally brought up the pain I feel when I watch these older games being played... they bend the cards nearly 90 degrees when shuffling, placing a land, playing a card. It hurts my soul.

    • @Hypnostedon
      @Hypnostedon Před rokem

      I still do that with my homies and we are 30 years old. We don't care 😂

  • @jaxsonbateman
    @jaxsonbateman Před 2 lety +24

    I think it's important to mention that Maher won the final 3-2 - so that misplay was arguably tournament deciding.

  • @erikt5286
    @erikt5286 Před 2 lety +10

    The reason you don't overcommit in that scenario is because Bob could have been holding a counterspell. If he overcommits and gets countered, he can't play anything else that turn. Given the matchup, it was more likely that Bob would have counter magic over a Swords in hand.

    • @guybuckridge7326
      @guybuckridge7326 Před 2 lety +3

      Yes, Bob was more likely to have a counter but if he does, the games over anyway. A tapped Disk would just watch as he dies to the lands.

    • @erikt5286
      @erikt5286 Před 2 lety

      @@guybuckridge7326 Ah, yes. You're right

  • @lincolnherbert3379
    @lincolnherbert3379 Před 2 lety +10

    Most common mistake my brothers and I used to make is going wide with way more creatures than we needed to win, and getting fogged. Immediately dying on the crack back hurts so bad when you had the game in the bag.

  • @aaronjenkins223
    @aaronjenkins223 Před rokem +15

    I was at negative life once with platinum angel out with swiftfoot boots, and avacyn, opponent went to exile avacyn so I cast teferis protection...... he was quick to point out that since platinum is treated as if it doesn't exist, I lost the game due to the negative life 😂

    • @thestatesofunitedamerica1203
      @thestatesofunitedamerica1203 Před rokem

      But you also didn't exist, thus your negative life didn't either

    • @NazoPureChaos
      @NazoPureChaos Před rokem +1

      @@thestatesofunitedamerica1203 I can't tell if you're joking or not, but just in case you aren't: Teferi's Protection doesn't phase the player out, only their battlefield. It does give them protection from everything.
      Or at least protection from everything except state-based effects.

    • @thestatesofunitedamerica1203
      @thestatesofunitedamerica1203 Před rokem +1

      @@NazoPureChaos ohh, yeah I guess you're right. My bad 😅

    • @thekittenfreakify
      @thekittenfreakify Před rokem

      I read this and think to my self...why are games not like this?

  • @NikachuMTG
    @NikachuMTG  Před 2 lety +28

    SUBSCRIBE to show support for those poor unsleeved cards!

  • @joltman81
    @joltman81 Před 2 lety +10

    Watching your facial expressions is always a treat, but watching you watch the shuffle at 8:37 was just amazing! (Also I had to smash like, as is the rule...)

    • @Wizard_of_the_Tower
      @Wizard_of_the_Tower Před 6 měsíci

      The actual rule is: think for yourself, and do what feels right for you.

  • @benbailey4387
    @benbailey4387 Před 2 lety +17

    These old school magic reviews are my favorite mtg content to watch! If you are exposing cheaters or reviewing statistics based on luck these have been really fun! Im looking forward to more!

  • @tirhaka5520
    @tirhaka5520 Před 2 lety +10

    That they play without sleeves is killing me :D

    • @ich3730
      @ich3730 Před 2 lety

      makes the whole "competitive" aspect kinda null if you can just play some whacked about cards with markings and little wear and tear. Like, that INVITES cheating and card marking. Thats why competitive magic is a joke xD I never understood why people have to bring their own cards anyways. Make tournament proxies with identical backs, i can do that on a printer in like 10 min

  • @itzBandomas
    @itzBandomas Před 2 lety +7

    The biggest blunder from this match in my opinion was in round 5 of the 1999 finals where Brian David, after wastelanding Bob Mahr twice took a counterspell over a force of will while Bob has no lands in play. He also misplayed game 1 instead of wastelanding and going to second main phase he went for the win and lost to a hard cast force of will

  • @SevNeijizawaVt
    @SevNeijizawaVt Před rokem +6

    NGL, when I saw this on ESPN2 back in the day, I cracked up so hard bc it's 💯% relatable as a magic player, especially bc I have difficulty reading a situation of it's clues - I blunderbuss my own games to the backrooms more than anyone I know. So I know the shamescoop so well, but I still have/had fun each time I lost bc it was getting frequent enough that I could get memed for it nowadays!

  • @AC3handle
    @AC3handle Před 2 lety +2

    Something yalls forgot about, BACK IN THE DAY... those cards were worth barely a fraction of what they are today. Even and especially the dual lands. I recently found a box that had a whole bunch of duals from that era that I had bought off this one guy for like..5 bucks for the good ones, 2-3 for shitty condition ones. On a tropical island, I literally wrote, IN PEN on it, a little word balloon that says
    "SKIPPERRRR!"

  • @ShadowWasntHere8433
    @ShadowWasntHere8433 Před 2 lety +69

    I don’t think it’s an “unbelievable mistake” to assume your opponent sideboarded out creature removal in a creature less match

    • @NikachuMTG
      @NikachuMTG  Před 2 lety +23

      Yeah but either you're going to win that turn or you're not. Like if Bob has a counterspell, leaving mana up for Disk is useless. Might as well play around Swords.

    • @shifazkhan845
      @shifazkhan845 Před 2 lety +7

      I think the real mistake is in thinking swords to plowshares is only creature removal.

    • @seilaoquemvc2
      @seilaoquemvc2 Před 2 lety +2

      it was an unbelieavable mistake because there was nothing in hand that could save him from the hit back, thus playing around counterspell was irrelevant as he was simply dead on board anyway.

    • @LucianDevine
      @LucianDevine Před 2 lety +4

      @@NikachuMTG That is a fair point. He's dead on board to the manlands. So saving mana for Disk is pointless. The only reason he gets a turn to draw action, which he scoops before, is because one of them dies, and he can only get hit for 8 of his now 10 life.

    • @TriangleChloros
      @TriangleChloros Před rokem +1

      @@NikachuMTG Mana Leak was legal at the time. My immediate thought is he forgot Bob wasn't running it, and was playing around that. At which point he can't also play around swords, so leaving up one extra for Disk probably *is* the right way to try and hedge for it, giving him more time to find another drain spell before the manlands kill him.
      (It also protects him from the vanishingly small chance of Disrupt *into* Mana Leak.)
      Unfortunately, Bob *was* running Ivory Mask, and showed him a tutor for it.

  • @moongurd20
    @moongurd20 Před 2 lety +6

    That shuffle with no sleeves... And i so wanna play a necropotence deck for casual play 😅

  • @Rhapsodies_In_Red
    @Rhapsodies_In_Red Před 2 lety +1

    Love watching these old games, thanks Nikachu!

  • @Tylerdakoh
    @Tylerdakoh Před rokem +1

    AHHH, i just recently found you and have been binging your vids. But Watching these guys play with no sleeves, bending and riffle shuffling the cards is WILD with todays context.

  • @mulder1979
    @mulder1979 Před 2 lety +35

    I don't think it's a blunder. Keeping in Swords when your opponent plays no creatures is a much bigger blunder. Brian thought it was much more likely that Bob had a counter, so he decided to keep 4 mana open so he could cast Disk in case his Drain Life got countered. I actually think this is the correct play, because nobody keeps in their Swords when you don't play creatures.

    • @fallendeus5641
      @fallendeus5641 Před 2 lety +21

      A counter spell would have meant he lost anyways, He drains for 4 it gets countered, he is still at 6 life and gets hit by the swing back for 11. There was no outcome where draining for 4 was the smart play. He would have been dead before he could have untapped niv disk. Yeah this route he technically got another turn but he wasn't playing around anything in particular, he wasn't playing around counter spell, he obviously wasn't playing around swords, so the leaving the 4 open to play disk just doesn't make sense because to his knowledge either this would connect and he would win or it would be countered and he would lose next turn anyways.

    • @NikachuMTG
      @NikachuMTG  Před 2 lety +18

      Any situation where Bob counters the Drain life, Brian dies. So the Disk doesn't matter. So he needs to play around any card except counterspells.

    • @mattc3581
      @mattc3581 Před 2 lety +1

      Bob's deck has a lot of different sideboard cards against different opponent's but really only 2-3 that have any use against necro. Given that necro is going to take out creatures vs oath, the oath player is pretty much forced to take out the oath, which is going to be 2-3 copies, he probably takes out a Shard Phoenix as it looks really bad if you aren't getting it with oath and opponent has no creatures to kill with it. After that if he has a couple of swords to plowshares in his main deck then probably at least one is going to get left in because there is just nothing else worth bringing in instead of it after taking Compost, Sacred ground and perhaps an Aura of Silence. Brian should have been aware that there was at least a reasonable chance that there were higher priorities to take out and that some Swords might have stayed in.
      (Swords is a sub par but legitimate card to keep anyway imho, there is a reasonable chance that 3 extra life could help you survive one extra corrupt/drain. Playing counters and with the opponent using demonic consultation there is a very real possibility of them running out of ways to kill you.)

  • @robertbouley7697
    @robertbouley7697 Před rokem +3

    The scoop hurt me worse than the mis-drain.
    Neither hurt as bad as the exposed card shuffling. 😥

  • @workingtitle904
    @workingtitle904 Před 2 lety +1

    Hot dang I can never get enough sleeveless magic when bridge shuffled duals are involved! Legit one of my favorite things about these videos!

  • @spacefreak5064
    @spacefreak5064 Před 2 lety +1

    My favourite type of videos!
    And also the cheaters exposed series hehe ^^
    Keep it up my dude! Much love

  • @briandiadem
    @briandiadem Před 2 lety +6

    My biggest blunder was selling all my cards back in 2002. 😭 Second biggest blunder was waiting until 2021 to get back into MTG.

    • @ironkodiakbooks5115
      @ironkodiakbooks5115 Před 2 lety +1

      I sold my tournament deck back in 1997 for about $1000. Today that deck would cost $200,000 to $300,000 to replace. I had 11 mint Beta dual lands (& one non-mint) all blue, black, & red. 😩 Mint beta Ancestral, Mirror Universe, 😢 Mishra's workshop, playset of Mana Drain, playset of The Abyss... 😭

    • @romanlinnik7441
      @romanlinnik7441 Před rokem

      @@ironkodiakbooks5115 it's like shares/cryptocurrency. Back then most people didn't have the foresight to hold off on a good deal (I think a grand for Magic cards is a good deal). If you didn't sell them that time, you would sell them a year later for slightly more, or two years later for more than you were offered last year etc.
      Don't feel bad :)

  • @brianm2242
    @brianm2242 Před 2 lety +25

    He was a young player, in the most important game of competitive Magic, up against one of the greatest minds to ever pick up a card. He made some mistakes; can't really chastise him for it.

  • @smurvje
    @smurvje Před 2 lety +1

    Oath vs Free spell necro. Such a trip down memory lane :)
    These were 2 of the decks I had so much fun with. With the Necro deck I "accidently" qualified myself for the (Dutch) national championship. There were some spots open at the NK-qualifier that was played at a game fair I was attending, and since I had the deck with me I thought "why not", and signed up. I had played some limited and/or pre-releases before, but never a big constructed tournament like this. Ended up winning all but one games and finishing 2nd or third overall (can't remember).
    Oath I never played tournaments with but it was a fun, not too boring/overpowered deck and you got to play with big creatures. (I sometimes added a little bit extra instead of just that Morphling)

  • @NeutralGuyDoubleZero
    @NeutralGuyDoubleZero Před rokem +2

    That unsleeved poker shuffle had me going there for a minute

  • @bogoloboaz1183
    @bogoloboaz1183 Před 2 lety +11

    Was Bob supposed to shuffle his deck after playing the impulse at around 4:57 it may be cut footage but I am unsure. He only shuffled the chosen card and his hand instead? This leads to him getting compost which then turns the table.

    • @bogoloboaz1183
      @bogoloboaz1183 Před 2 lety

      @@Cwefr Agreed feels a bit redundant to shuffle.

    • @krislagreca6152
      @krislagreca6152 Před 2 lety +4

      Yeah I believe that was actually a printer error

    • @Zakenhz
      @Zakenhz Před 2 lety +7

      The Shuffle your library afterwards was a print typo.

    • @azarisLP
      @azarisLP Před 2 lety +1

      He shuffled his hand to hide which card he got off Impulse.

    • @NikachuMTG
      @NikachuMTG  Před 2 lety +6

      Shuffling the deck was a printing/typo error. What a blunder by Wizards of the Coast!

  • @Teifling
    @Teifling Před 2 lety +10

    Playing around Swords post board would have been clairvoyant strategic playing. I don't blame Davis for playing conservatively, but the scoop seemed a little premature.

    • @aaronbarnett9492
      @aaronbarnett9492 Před 2 lety +2

      The scoop was the blunder from the video title

    • @RCTricking
      @RCTricking Před 2 lety

      Yeah shame scooping when you're still totally live in the pro tour finals seems really loose.

    • @LucianDevine
      @LucianDevine Před 2 lety

      @@RCTricking I mean totally live may be a bit of an overstatement. Bob has to get Null Rod to shut down the Disk, and he still has 2 cards that Brian hasn't seen, as all the hand disruption has been countered for a good bit, since the first Duress that succeeded I think. He doesn't know that Bob's hand is mostly just lands, which is why the Counterspells have been getting used. If he doesn't counter the Unmasks, Brian Brian gets to see his hand, take a Counterspell anyway, and know that Bob had just lands and another Counterspell to bait out with another Unmask. So he then would have sunk everything into the Drain Life and won.
      Oh, and he's dead in 2 turns to the manlands, aka 1 turn for Brian to draw a damage spell and hope it resolves, since again, he doesn't know it will. Look at the mana Bob has open on that turn. He left Counterspell mana up, in addition to the Plow mana. So for all he knows if he Drains for more, Bob uses a Counterspell or Force of Will, and if he Drains for 4, he uses Plow to get use out of an otherwise worthless card.

  • @DGMouro
    @DGMouro Před 2 lety

    I love all the shuffle and play without sleeves…
    Greetings from Argentina. Keep it up! 🤙🏽

  • @aklepatzky
    @aklepatzky Před 2 lety

    We need more of these!

  • @captainanopheles4307
    @captainanopheles4307 Před 2 lety +5

    I remember a game on arena where my oppo just needed to attack me to win...
    Both topdecking, he had 1 life and I had an enchantment that pinged a life away (trespasser's curse?) if he played a creature.
    That's right. Instead of just attacking, he played a creature. Couldn't believe it.

    • @irbster
      @irbster Před 2 lety

      Dude that never happened at all. Show some damn class

    • @captainanopheles4307
      @captainanopheles4307 Před 2 lety

      @@irbster what, as much class as calling a stranger a liar based on a thought?

    • @irbster
      @irbster Před 2 lety

      @@captainanopheles4307 I was freaking there dude, this is Terry, your freaking cousin

    • @captainanopheles4307
      @captainanopheles4307 Před 2 lety

      @@irbster really? Hi, then.

    • @irbster
      @irbster Před 2 lety

      @@captainanopheles4307 yea real funny dude you won't be laughing when I tell aunt Tammy about this. Fricking ridiculous man she raised you better

  • @PandaDSU
    @PandaDSU Před 2 lety +6

    100% not a major blunder. Most players would assume that the swords were all sideboarded out.

    • @Aphid4
      @Aphid4 Před rokem +1

      @@zeroduvidas8664 Honestly, even if you think there's a small chance he has swords, there's a bigger chance he's got a force of will. So keeping 4 mana open to play the disk is actually sensible. Against force, you still have a chance of winning since the disk can blow up the manlands, and you might draw something good. The mistake is prematurely giving up?

    • @GoldenSunAlex
      @GoldenSunAlex Před rokem +1

      @@Aphid4 No, against force he lost. If drain life didn't resolve, he was dead next turn.

  • @paulthetexan
    @paulthetexan Před 2 lety

    I remember this match! Ah, the good ol' days of PT coverage...thanks for the nostalgia!

  • @mikat8062
    @mikat8062 Před rokem

    8:58 the way he taps the corner of the card on the table so many times is killing me 😂😂😂

  • @S1L3NTDr460n
    @S1L3NTDr460n Před 2 lety +5

    watching someone bridge-shuffle raw OG duals will never stop being painful as hell lol

  • @DUxMORTEM
    @DUxMORTEM Před 2 lety +3

    The number of times a player just grabs the opponents card is so odd to watch knowing how it isn't tolerated today without 1st asking.
    Plus i mean shuffling without sleeves is painful to watch...

  • @bh-w2297
    @bh-w2297 Před 2 lety

    production value seems like it's really improved for this video, well done Nika!

  • @Cyb3rSynaps3
    @Cyb3rSynaps3 Před 2 lety +1

    Happy Easter everyone! Local game stores might be closed but if you can get some games in online make it a magic day!

  • @unpassantquipasse8268
    @unpassantquipasse8268 Před 2 lety +3

    I first I was like "Meh, that exile spell must be to get some life control, wich could always be handy" and then I saw the opponnent not going overkill. I thought "No need to overkill. Keeping some mana open may be usefull" then... I smirked. Bummer he scooped. Well played anyway.

  • @sykeassai
    @sykeassai Před 2 lety +3

    Well it's hardly a blunder when a counter could have still been on the cards in which case having the mana open for another play was potentially the smarter move. The smarter move did however cost him.

    • @fallendeus5641
      @fallendeus5641 Před 2 lety

      A counter spell would have meant he lost anyways, He drains for 4 it gets countered, he is still at 6 life and gets hit by the swing back for 11. There was no outcome where draining for 4 was the smart play. He would have been dead before he could have untapped niv disk. Yeah this route he technically got another turn but he wasn't playing around anything in particular, he wasn't playing around counter spell, he obviously wasn't playing around swords, so the leaving the 4 open to play disk just doesn't make sense because to his knowledge either this would connect and he would win or it would be countered and he would lose next turn anyways.

  • @lunamaruguest3229
    @lunamaruguest3229 Před 2 lety

    this is right up there with something else we all use to do back in the day...keeping our cards wrapped in elastic bands XD

  • @joecrail7596
    @joecrail7596 Před rokem

    Never really got into playing magic had a bunch of friends that did and like hardcore got into it they would go to our local comic stores and do competitions I remember always being a spectator and it always seemed so hard to grasp until I actually started to play myself and then I realized it's really quite simple to figure out it's just like chess once you figure out what the pieces do even though MTG has far more pieces you know effectively how to use them and then throughout practice and playing other people who are ultimately better than you you learn better strategies that you fit to your own playstyle needless to say I've always loved MTG!!! Even more so as an adult now that I do more drawings and artistry work I really appreciate the artwork that goes into these cards! It really helps one's imagination bring forth an image of what the creature looks like you know what I mean? Also thanks so much for the content Nikachu MTG!!! You're videos are very welcoming to new people looking to get into magic and very informative too I always enjoy watching keep up the GREAT WORK!!!!

  • @maxwell4322
    @maxwell4322 Před 2 lety +3

    The real "Blunder is at about 5:15" the card states that after looking at the Top 4 he puts on bottom and must Shuffle. He does not end up shuffling his deck but his hand.
    This woulda cost him to lose the game probably since he top decks the compost next which was game changing.

    • @NikachuMTG
      @NikachuMTG  Před 2 lety +4

      The card was printed with a typo, it’s not suppose to shuffle because putting the cards on the bottom would be redundant. So the shuffle was removed from tournament play

    • @maxwell4322
      @maxwell4322 Před 2 lety +1

      @@NikachuMTG oooooh

  • @joebaumgart1146
    @joebaumgart1146 Před rokem

    I'm very new so I've been binging your videos on my days off. You've taught me quite a bit. Ty. I just realized I forgot to Subscribe, so I rectified the situation.

  • @ryanbowen4526
    @ryanbowen4526 Před 2 lety +2

    Those cards are positively floating off the mat, so bent. Takes me back to a simpler time haha

  • @sonichujfs2393
    @sonichujfs2393 Před 2 lety

    "smack like if that hurt to watch" this whole game hurt to watch between sleeveless shuffling and all the hand shuffling nikachu

  • @mhc706
    @mhc706 Před 7 měsíci

    I love the commentary for games videos man.

  • @EricFrock
    @EricFrock Před 2 lety +1

    The unsleeved dual lands just getting shuffled like that lol. Was a different time for sure.

    • @TheCaptainCruise
      @TheCaptainCruise Před rokem +1

      Bro', no one cared about Dual Lands back then. They were $5-10 bucks at most

  • @targetplayer
    @targetplayer Před 2 lety +2

    A more obvious blunder was by Pascoli in the last game of the finals vs Finkel at PT Kuala Lumpur 2008 (Morningtide-Lorwyn limited). Pascoli attacked Fire-Belly Changeling (1/1 firebreathing) into Preeminent Captain (2/2 first strike), throwing away his changeling which is even worse than it sounds bc so many of his cards depended on having a creature of a certain type (e.g. Peppersmoke). He shame scooped a couple turns later.

  • @WesternCommie
    @WesternCommie Před 2 lety

    I love the videos. Thanks for uploading.

  • @jawstrock2215
    @jawstrock2215 Před 2 lety

    oh god, the un-sleeved card bending shuffles... *shivers*

  • @sabata414
    @sabata414 Před rokem +2

    Wait, I'm confused. Nevi's Disk destroys creatures, artifacts and enchantments. I know stack is first in, last out, or last in, first out. Wouldn't the enchantment be destroyed first, and as the lands were creatures at the time, they'd be permanently sent to the graveyard?

    • @HeavyMetalMouse
      @HeavyMetalMouse Před 7 měsíci

      In this case, the things Disk destroys are all destroyed simultaneously, and so the benefit of the Sacred Ground are still in effect for the creature-lands being destroyed at the same time as it - nothing can 'interrupt' the middle of a spell or ability, the entire effect has to resolve before the game updates the stack (removing the activation of Disk, then putting the Sacred Ground trigger on the now-empty stack). The triggered ability, once stacked, does not care that the Sacred Ground is not on the board anymore, so returns the destroyed lands as described.

  • @callmealex69
    @callmealex69 Před rokem +1

    That 90s hair and sweater *chefs kiss*

  • @Crowniecrown
    @Crowniecrown Před rokem

    The Beanie Baby on the corner of the table really ties the 90s of this video together.

  • @ebush279
    @ebush279 Před 2 lety

    Been missing your vids lately. Happy Easter bro. :)

    • @NikachuMTG
      @NikachuMTG  Před 2 lety +2

      Happy Easter! I'll see if I can ramp up production!

  • @Mouspadu
    @Mouspadu Před rokem

    I thought I wanted a 30 second video of the crime but context was nice. Thanks for the content

  • @ryonkarpierz1179
    @ryonkarpierz1179 Před 2 lety +1

    The era of unsleeved cards. This hurts to watch but we all did it back in the 90's, and to top it off riffle shuffling them will give some players heart attacks.

  • @gristlebits
    @gristlebits Před 2 lety +2

    Seeing the duals getting riffle shuffled without sleeves is actually killing me inside

    • @TheCaptainCruise
      @TheCaptainCruise Před rokem +2

      Bro', no one cared about Dual Lands back then. They were $5-10 bucks at most.

  • @JOHNvsTIMO
    @JOHNvsTIMO Před 2 lety

    yeah finally a nikachu vid!

  • @wilhelmkreis6578
    @wilhelmkreis6578 Před 2 lety +1

    I think the biggest blunder I've ever done was forgetting that a potentially game ending pump spell was a sorcerery in my Gishath edh deck and going to combat before casting it

  • @Goblinyourammo
    @Goblinyourammo Před rokem

    Bob with the card snaps everytime he buts a card down lol

  • @LincolnsDementure
    @LincolnsDementure Před rokem

    I know this pro tour is from a long time ago but man seeing them play unsleeved makes me so uneasy

  • @KeithDCanada
    @KeithDCanada Před rokem +1

    While not a blunder, I was in an Emperor tournament with a couple of friends in the early years of MTG.
    I was the Emperor in the middle, and my two friends were my guards to either side. I no longer remember what deck I was playing with... because all I remember is that was the fastest game of Emperor I ever saw. We started first, and the guard to my right played a land, and a mox. Play continued clockwise to me, and around the board, as everyone else just played a single land for their turns. When my right guard started his second turn, he played another land, played a second mox, Tapped a land a the mox emerald for a Channel spell, then the other land, and the mox ruby, to cast a Fireball, converted 19 of his life for the extra mana he needed to do a 20 point fireball to the opposing teams Emperor.
    30 seconds after we sat down at the start of the first round, we stood back up... and got quite a few looks from the rest of the auditorium, lol.

    • @greenwave819
      @greenwave819 Před rokem

      I've already heard of the game you mention. It's known across the land. They even named a major MTG website after that specific game!

  • @ZombieNationLTD
    @ZombieNationLTD Před rokem

    Hello Nikachu. I’ve never played this game but you’re entertaining to watch and these videos are interesting. Great work man👍🏼

    • @NikachuMTG
      @NikachuMTG  Před rokem +1

      You’re welcome! If you’re interested in trying it out, you can download MTG Arena for free on Windows, Mac, or mobile! It can teach you the basics and everything.

    • @ZombieNationLTD
      @ZombieNationLTD Před rokem

      @@NikachuMTG I’ll have to try that out, thanks! Have a great rest of your week.

  • @DiabloTommaso
    @DiabloTommaso Před 2 lety +1

    These games were so explosive. As you said 1 card turns the match all over it s head. Too bad powercreep exists ( funny as we say powercreep when back than spells were insane).

  • @grimtrix
    @grimtrix Před rokem

    Wow... Its crazy remembering the days before sleeves...

  • @blaze556922
    @blaze556922 Před 2 lety

    watching them shuffle such old cards without even a sleeve in sight is painful. I do remember those days though

  • @snakenation7765
    @snakenation7765 Před 2 lety

    Loving this content!

  • @DrPantsOG
    @DrPantsOG Před rokem

    The hard shuffles on the duals gets me every time. 😭

  • @Sammechu
    @Sammechu Před 2 lety

    I really love your videos like this because it offers me insight into a card game I don't know a lot about, since I play YuGiOh! mostly, really cool stuff

    • @NikachuMTG
      @NikachuMTG  Před 2 lety +2

      I'm looking out for my Yugioh fam!

  • @67Elite
    @67Elite Před 2 lety

    My man, Nikachu, finally uploads

  • @mhc706
    @mhc706 Před 7 měsíci

    This was WAY more fun to watch then the matches I’ve been seeing.
    The video quality leads me to believe this was from some years ago.
    Matches in modern day all seem like they are played by people with the worlds worst cases of adhd/are trying to cheat all the time

    • @NikachuMTG
      @NikachuMTG  Před 7 měsíci

      this was like 23 or so years ago

  • @TheMaskedHero
    @TheMaskedHero Před 2 lety

    Pretty Deece covered this entire match. But, this is such an amazing match, that any video about the games is very much appreciated.

  • @ShrugThisLife
    @ShrugThisLife Před 2 lety

    I was playing a Game of Commander in League at my Local shop, I had Necropotence , Aetherflux & Bolas Citadel , I Played Teferi’s Protection off the top phases out & got life drained by Yawgmoth at phase in.

  • @myrice101
    @myrice101 Před 2 lety

    saw the left half of the thumbnail and thought this was a follow up story of the "chicken nuggets are family" kid

  • @killaphaser1882
    @killaphaser1882 Před 2 lety +2

    The fact that their both just bending and slapping their cards down on the table is killing me

  • @callmeriggy
    @callmeriggy Před 2 lety

    Me watching this, thinking to myself: it feels wrong to watch them shuffling and such without sleeves. Then he does that, and Nikachu brings it up and I'm just like, "Yes, yes that does hurt."

  • @connorosborn7187
    @connorosborn7187 Před 2 lety +2

    I know there are already comments like this, but it really pains me to watch cards worth that much money now to be played without sleeves!
    Great video Nikachu, thanks for the content!

  • @sammurphy3343
    @sammurphy3343 Před rokem +1

    They shuffled so effectively back In the day with zero regard for card condition. I like it.

  • @laurencefraga6450
    @laurencefraga6450 Před rokem +1

    In defense of Brian, he could have thought: "He may have a Power Sink, so I won't drain with full power". But since he gave up after his play, I don't think that thought crossed his mind.

    • @wwbcwp
      @wwbcwp Před rokem

      I agree that that's the only line of reasoning which would be defensible. However, since this is game two he should have had a reasonable idea as to whether or not that was likely, and having seen the decks I don't think it was. Still a somewhat viable concern given the timeperiod. However, in a post-board game two against an opponent running UWGx, as the mono-black deck I'd have assumed my opponent boarded in some amount of lifegain/protection, or simply left swords in.

    • @billepperson2662
      @billepperson2662 Před rokem

      What?! NO one used power sinks, they're garbage counters, Bob didn't even bother with arcane denials... I talked to Brian about this myself @ PT Chicago 2000, he had recently unmasked him & just didn't think it was likely Bob would've top decked anything relevant in the last couple turns & didn't see the line as a possibility/wanted the remaining mana to consult for something instead of drawing with Necro again... again, the guy was 15 @ the time playing "The great one" in a PT final. He was young, not stupid

  • @tyjexia
    @tyjexia Před rokem

    Omg... the shuffling!

  • @namelecc841
    @namelecc841 Před 2 lety

    Can we get a cheer for that amazing foiled faerie conclave. Wow that's beautiful!

  • @mangohavoc6428
    @mangohavoc6428 Před 2 lety

    AHHH the way he's shuffling those dual lands without a care in the world... or a sleeve in the world... hurts my heart.

  • @cardenfoy
    @cardenfoy Před 2 lety

    these shenanigan's never get old lol

  • @SvviftDeath
    @SvviftDeath Před 2 lety

    I had only started going to tourneys for standard magic. I had the Gaze of Granite to wipe out all my opponents creatures I played it not realizing he had a creature in play to make me pay 1 more mana or counter the spell and played it. I still almost won the game but had I played my shockland into play untapped first I would've had the mana to play around it and would've handedly won the game with little resistance. Was a big play mistake that was also a valuable learning experience.

  • @3114Cancerbero
    @3114Cancerbero Před 2 lety

    The crisp sound of unsleeved MTG cards is my kind of ASMR.

  • @snap-off5383
    @snap-off5383 Před rokem

    Scooped a turn early to a masticore that I could only shock, the topdeck I left was an incinerate. (prevents regeneration).

  • @JaredCastello
    @JaredCastello Před 2 lety +1

    The pain when he hard shuffled those duals. 🤯

    • @TheCaptainCruise
      @TheCaptainCruise Před rokem +2

      Bro', no one cared about Dual Lands back then. They were $5-10 bucks at most

  • @pr0gram392
    @pr0gram392 Před 2 lety

    My first time playing at a store was during Khans Block and i played a temur mid range and lost a mirror match to not attacking with with all my creatures needed 1 more damage and didn't even think to attack with that last elvish mystic.

  • @dellhelp
    @dellhelp Před 2 lety

    BRO. Ik this is 1999 or whatever, but those unsleeved dual lands and rifle shuffling them bare, my heart cant take this anymore

  • @omnomnomnath415
    @omnomnomnath415 Před rokem

    I've made several blunders MtG in the near 30 years I've been playing but one that always stuck with me happened at a modern event January 1st, 2016 at my LGS. I'm playing Jeskai Splinter Twin( weeks before the banning) while my opponent was playing Burn and it's game 3. I have 6 lands with one being Celestial Colonnade... but overlooked how many were untapped and neglected to activate it before I swung in with my creatures bringing him down to 3 life but no Bolt in hand. I realized just as I passed my turn that all 6 of my lands were untapped and could've activated the Colonnade to finish the game that turn. He had no creatures left, no cards in hand, and I was at 4 life so despite my mishap, I was still confident that the game was mine. Then he top decked Boros Charm, slammed that puppy down burning me for exactly 4 and offered me a giant slice of humble pie. The perfect combination of a terrible blunder and the perfect top deck.

  • @y1985
    @y1985 Před rokem

    That shuffle might have kill someone watching this video already lol
    That is brutal!!

  • @whitemale2230
    @whitemale2230 Před 2 lety

    Reminds me of when I forgot to pump Inferno of the Star Mounts recently.

  • @jazybomber
    @jazybomber Před 2 lety

    The legend is back