good topic to cover. bottom line, don't treat playing poker like a game, you're playing with real money, treat it seriously like it's your job (or could be).
Definitely doable. I lived 2 years playing 2/3 full time about 9 years ago. I wasn’t balling but was able to make a living. I’d like to give it another shot
That ending advice is pretty great. Remember even if you meet the fundamental bankroll and savings threshold, you better be a very solid player. I also think if youre going to attempt this, you should plan on moving to 2/5, then 5/10 ptetty quickly. Remember your bankroll requirements jump substantially!
Thank you for showing the Sacto casino. Never been there but I'll be hitting a tournament on Sunday just to check it out. And then go climbing at Pipeworks.
Not sure if I’m to aggressive but both JJ hands I think in the first one raise it high enough to deny equity to the A3 hand and the second lucky river. But maybe I’m wrong I haven’t played that long
If you are single and got no one to account for then, Yes. But when you have others to relied on you the 1/3 is too small of a game to put yourself through the daily stress to make it all worthwhile. If those who chooses to do poker for a living, level up your game and play the mid stake. Those mid-stake gms don't run in the Sacramento area, so you basically have to move or traveled just to "work", i.e. Bay area or LA. To grind in the low-stake while having dependents is short-selling yourself. Study the game, build bankroll in low-stake, and finally, don't be a "chicken-shit", Level up and attack the bigger game. Anyone can do it if they put in the work. Best of luck, brother. 👍
Great video. I think you should experiment with higher pre-flop raising to try to isolate more. When you have a table full of callers like that then you’re gonna isolate or always have a good pot when you have a good hand
I like this. Last couple sessions I’ve mixed in bigger opens & have gotten zero callers. Then I go back to the regular sizing & get 4-5. Still trying to find that happy medium! Could just be a coincidence as well. Thanks for the feedback
@@NorCal_Poker def depends on the table and each person individually. Try betting a little bit more like 2 or 4 bb more than usual and just keep upping it throughout the session to see how much they’ll call, always adjust to the table. Also don’t forget to punish limpers by raising or reraising even higher when you have a good hand.
To be honest with you bro I feel you with JJ hands, sometimes I just fold them right away to save my heart attacks after flop and turn with hitting anything 😅😅❤ Nice plays anyway good luck brother.
the question really is...WHAT is a "pro"? if it is someone that "plays for a living", then YES, but what kind of a living is in question. poker pros have to take care of health insurance, rent, food, utilities, loved ones, car, insurances and any entertainment. also has to survive DOWNSWINGS, their own EGO and playing beyond their bankroll. REALISTIC answer to your question.....almost always...NOPE. i know a few that could, but they ALWAYS play bigger.....using the "peter principle".....they rise to the level of their own incompetence....and invariably go busted when their EGO is not willing to allow them to move down in stakes. your videos are great.
This is a really good analysis Paul. The “pro” definition I was using is “playing for a living.” Which is great to have the freedom but like you said, it’s almost always not sustainable with the Ego part. Thanks for the feedback!
I play a lot of 1/2 and 2/5 on weekends. Or 1/2 table stakes on Friday or Saturday. I consider myself semi professional. My bills aren’t that much. It’s tough with inflation.
Did it for 5 years before I moved up. California much more expensive than Pa but my overhead was super high kept taking from my roll to pay bills so if anything it’s very possible but moving up will be tough because there’s not much left to add to roll for shot takes. California cost of living plus California rake makes it tough.
Yeah high rake is a mofo, I had to play higher levels because the rake was just ridiculous at the lower levels making it virtually unplayable. Would love access to a softish 3/5 game with reasonable rake.
Here's how you play JJ. If RFI, raise. If facing RFI just smooth call OOP, if IP 3-bet. You're mostly looking to hit a set. If you get 4-bet just fold, especially at 1/3.
Most players are poor at seeing ev and winning hands separately. If you lose 4 out of 5 hands but have positive ev overall from the one win , then it may not be a bad play. JJ are the 4th or 5th most profitable hand but you need to learn how to play poker with them!
The sample size is woefully small. My guess is in the long run the best one could do is about 10-15 an hour... these 5 session were way over any reasonable expectations.
I beat the local $1/2 game for $19/hour for 2 years. Doug Mccusker (another vlogger at Capitol casino) has beaten this game for $40/hour + for years on end
Most players won't cope with variance when it hits them. Have they got say 6 - 8 months living expenses and say 100 - 200 buyins at $300. If so, go for it. Your comments / Doug McCusker are pretty spot on.
I can assure you ,from personal experience, that it is absolutely possible. I've been doing it, with zero supplemental income, for three years now. You have to adapt, and stay out ofynyour own head, and trust your instincts, often!
You need a lot of improvement but you’re doing good for a new player. You can tell by how you speak that you are unsure of where you’re at a lot of the time. Try to realize where you are. Have a reason for all of your action. Your reasons should be logic and reasoning. Keep up the play. You’ll get better the more you keep learning!
Dang, $500 dollar buy-in for a $1/$3 table.....that's a lot....here in San Diego that buy-in is more for a $2/$3 table or even a low buy-in for a $2/$5 table....
2/5 you can make money. Just depending on action. I was playing 1/2&1/3 last night and have tons of action. I made $750 just a little over 4 hours. 2/5 I average 1k-1.5k winning
5 sessions? Play with a variance calculator, you can run good/bad for 150k hands. Thats months and months and months of daily grinding. You can be hot for weeks on end, then brick for a month. 5 days is meaningless data set..
The bomb pot head when you had aces.When he calls on the flop it's pretty polarized that he has a four and I think you're seventy five dollar call on the turn might be a waste because he's not better anything there other than the four
Facts. This was more of an experiment to get a feel of playing 5 days a week. My thoughts on not making it a sole income for the pure risk factor is why I don’t recommend it! Best for supplemental income at the $1/3 level
I think 5 sessions is too small of a sample. I think you need 20K hands to overcome statistical variance and see the true trend (law of large numbers). 20K hands @ 25 hands/hr would take 800 hours of play. If you play 40 hours a week, that would take 20 weeks. Do you consider how much you pay in rake/table-time? How much do you tip? etc.
I agree. It was a small unreliable sample size mainly used for content & to get a small snap shot if it’s possible. I think 800 hours of play is a great sample size
Why would you ever bet all-in on a 3-club flop board, when one of the 3 other opponents is likely to have any 2-club hand? You left yourself no back door to bail if you choose. Part of a winning strategy is to limit your losses when possible, and this hand clearly demonstrates that.
I guarantee you that you can’t be a poker professional on that level.Maybe on 5/10 and above you make a profit but even then you have to be tough player.Look all of those pros who playing for years almost everyone is broke.Most of them have backers that’s why they are still in the game!.
I think it’s possible at $1/3 match the stack which is basically $2/5+, but it’s definitely not a lavish lifestyle that seems worth grinding for with all the stress involved. Thanks for the feedback!
Man the 1/3 in upstate ny. I can guarantee you that if your a good player you can easily make a few grand a night if you can overcome some variance. Alot of fishes with money and its match the stack
This is a game for that usually the cheap grinders play and try to make 50-100 a day That they try to eat off of uneducated players or recreational players They take a beat and act like the world is ending To make it real you definitely need a larger limit or go play blackjack
5:30 Some simple math for you about bomb pots. You have 8 opponents they each have two cards. 8x2=16. There are two fours left in the deck. The odds one or more opponents have a four is 100% minus the odds no one has a four. We can figure out the odds no one has a four by multiplying the odds each individual card is not a four giving us the following formula as 45/47*44/46*43/45*42/44*41/43*40/42*39/41*38/40*37/39*36/38*35/37*34/36*33/35*32/34*31/33*30/32=.4301 1 minus that is 57%. There is a 57% chance that someone flopped trips. Plus the tiny chance someone has 55. Your aces are garbage on this flop, betting money on the flop, then calling turn is lighting money on fire. But you shouldn't need to do the math to figure that out exactly, you should just see your opponents have 16 random cards and there are two fours left in the deck and not like your hand.
Thanks for the breakdown. I did think he’d call/bet overpairs on the flop/turn for protection which is why I floated. Was not calling a river bet. Appreciate the feedback!
Raising to 15$ with Jacks over 2 limpers at Cap Casino is sillyness......this should be a limp/reraise after one of the others raises, and if they don't raise just setmine and fold for 3$
So here is a problem. You are definitely not an for-fun type of player based on the hands you focus on and the decipline you have on the other hands you didnt show(which i assume u folded most of them and never bluff). Some of your decisions are definitely good learning examples for other amatuers as to how to raise your $ per hour. However, it takes a lot of time to achieve that experience and understanding why those decisions are made. so For you, the answer is Yes. For other ppl who are not at the same level, they are just mostly wasting their money if they decide to follow this.
I think this is a pretty sound analysis. Discipline is the #1 factor in being a winning player or not.. something I didn’t have early on in my poker journey
I disagree. $1/3 players are bad enough that a good player should have a huge edge. If you put in enough hours (e.g., 150-200 hours per month), you should pretty much never have a down month. The big thing will be whether you consistently put in the hours. If I recall correctly, Doug McCusker claims to be earning something like $50/hour in that game at capital casino. That sounds high but plausible. On the east coast (rake not drop), I expect competent players to earn at least $25/hour in $1/3, but I don’t have a good sense of what the upper bound is on a consistent win rate. If you told me there’s a pro out there earning $75/hour at $1/3, it would not surprise me. When you move up, your *expected* hourly might be higher, but your edge will also be lower, so the variance will also be higher.
@@pokertroll320 Doug crushes the game at Capitol. But it’s not his only source of income & he plays an amount of hours where he’s at the top of his game. Putting in 200 hours a week with no benefits in a high cost of living place like CA isn’t the best lifestyle. I’m all for people going for it though
@NorCal_Poker yeah, I’m not suggesting it’s a great way to make a living - side hustle for me only. But I’m mostly replying to the variance/stress aspect. I don’t think the variance is really that a big concern big concern given how crushable the 1/3 game is. And given that a straightforward style is effective, you don’t have to stay that sharp - putting in 8 hour days does not seem hard to me. While you miss out on some potential profits, you could even get away with basically never paying attention and playing super tight. Sure, it’s boring AF, but is that worse than a normal 9-5 job? (I’m always surprised when the dude who hasn’t played a hand for 2 hours puts in a huge preflop raise and gets action, but somehow in 1/3 they often do. ) So maybe you can somewhat consistently get something in the $60-120k range without benefits for a year of work. That’s great if your alternative is a minimum wage job or some salaried job that pays $40k/year, but it’s not good compared to a typical salary for someone with a college degree. As for Doug, (1) Doug does not appear to be doing anything special in his vlogs, i.e., he’s not a super elite player, and (2) he also doesn’t seem to be cherry-picking times of day or table selecting excessively. His play style should be easily reproducible. That said, given that he plays so few hours, it’s not clear whether his win rate is partly due to some run good-he could be realizing a win rate of say $50/hour when his true win rate should be closer $30/hour.
I’m trying out to see how much I can make from playing poker besides working full time too. So far I’ve played 158 hours since 01/03/24 profit $16744 (play 1/3). My goal is $50k by the end of this year
You'd be a fool to play 1/3 NL for a living. A good player can expect to earn$15-$30/hr. Not enough imo, considering you don't get any benefits and if you get sick, you'll be royally screwed, no pun intended. The variance is also high so you could potentially go on a big downswing and have no income for the month. This also doesn't take into account that playing poker for 40 hours a week is dreadfully boring and your earnings likely will go down as you won't be as sharp. 2/5NL is the lowest stakes I think you can consider when playing professionally.
You didn’t need to play any sessions to answer this question. Your 1/3 game is a match the stack which isn’t normal. It’s basically a 2/5 game. Go find a max $300 buyin 1/3 game and get back to us
Fair point. I beat the local $1/2 for $19/hour for 2 years consistently & played during the day. Night time it could be done, but I would never want to live on scraps just to chase a “dream”
Absolutely impossible to become a pro player playing at $1-$3 because of high rake and high variance. And you are trading your time for money without any guarantee for a paycheck. Therefore, it would be better you get a 9 to 5 job or move up in stakes, $5-$5 stakes would be the minimum stakes to play for a living as a poker pro.
cool vlog its a loner life to play poker, its a negative for any lady to be attracted too. your health matters poker will steal it from you. the seats the room, food ,etc.. come to vegas see how you play against the regs out here...
That’s the main reason as well I just recommend it as a side hustle. As a full time gig, it just sounds depressing to be honest. Can’t imagine the stress as well
@@NorCal_Poker come to vegas you see plenty of denial players. day in day out sitting in a poker chair. they rent a room no social life 90% out of shape.
I’ve talked about this with one of my poker buddies. JJ & AK are monsters in higher stakes poker but in low stakes against people who never fold; it’s best to keep pots small & get value on good boards
5 sessions is too small. Way too small. You have to calculate it. First, its hands per hour. You are dealt between 25-30 hands per hour. Lets just assume, you get dealt 30. Second part is your personal winrate. I played poker professionally, a very good winrate online is ~3-5bb/100, crushing the game is like 8-10bb/100, such a winrate is probably not sustainable on fullring nlh, more in games like HU or PLO6max. Lets assume, you are a crusher of the highest order. Lets assume, your opponents in a live low stakes game are close to braindead, resulting in a sick winrate of 30bb/100. You play 10 hours. You are dealt 300 hands. You crush for 90bb, equaling 270 bucks. Your hourly is 27 dollars. If you are a sick player. If your game is fast enough. If your opponents are complete idiots. Lets just say you get dealt 20 hands/hour, and have a 15bb winrate. Maybe the more likely scenario. You see where this is going?
5 sessions was just for content. I know consistent winners at this game for $40+ per hour. Granted, they pick time of day, etc. Nevertheless, I would never play $1/3 full time
@@MCFoultierI just started playing this game so I’ll let you know how I end up. I know fellow vlogger Doug Mccusker consistently beats this game for $40/hr +
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good topic to cover. bottom line, don't treat playing poker like a game, you're playing with real money, treat it seriously like it's your job (or could be).
Amen to that!
Great video! I love how you went into detail of what you were thinking and it played out.
Thanks for the support my man!
Definitely doable. I lived 2 years playing 2/3 full time about 9 years ago. I wasn’t balling but was able to make a living. I’d like to give it another shot
Good luck in your journey!
I enjoy the sarcasm memes in between this vlog. I Like it because it's good information with a bit of sense of humor. Great video and channel.
Thank you, that was my goal! Appreciate the support 🙌🏻
Grinding the fun away. I hear ya! Having access to a crazy fast/loose game often would be the deciding factor.
Amen!
That ending advice is pretty great. Remember even if you meet the fundamental bankroll and savings threshold, you better be a very solid player.
I also think if youre going to attempt this, you should plan on moving to 2/5, then 5/10 ptetty quickly. Remember your bankroll requirements jump substantially!
Amen to that!
Thank you for showing the Sacto casino. Never been there but I'll be hitting a tournament on Sunday just to check it out.
And then go climbing at Pipeworks.
Nice, good luck!
I like the vlog good work POKER PRO!
I appreciate the support 🙌🏻
Not sure if I’m to aggressive but both JJ hands I think in the first one raise it high enough to deny equity to the A3 hand and the second lucky river. But maybe I’m wrong I haven’t played that long
I see your perspective
You can't deny equity from a flopped nut flush
5 Blinks 0 winks Glad to see you had a pretty good week! I played Friday night and made 146 profit in 6 hours.
Not too shabby, keep it up!
What phone stand are you using and how are you setting it up tilt wise?
Just a simple pop socket you get for $10
If you are single and got no one to account for then, Yes. But when you have others to relied on you the 1/3 is too small of a game to put yourself through the daily stress to make it all worthwhile. If those who chooses to do poker for a living, level up your game and play the mid stake. Those mid-stake gms don't run in the Sacramento area, so you basically have to move or traveled just to "work", i.e. Bay area or LA. To grind in the low-stake while having dependents is short-selling yourself. Study the game, build bankroll in low-stake, and finally, don't be a "chicken-shit", Level up and attack the bigger game. Anyone can do it if they put in the work. Best of luck, brother. 👍
Thanks for the feedback, I agree with it!
New sub here Brotherman. I really like the vlog and the thoughts process in each situation.
I appreciate the support 🙌🏻
Great video. I think you should experiment with higher pre-flop raising to try to isolate more. When you have a table full of callers like that then you’re gonna isolate or always have a good pot when you have a good hand
I like this. Last couple sessions I’ve mixed in bigger opens & have gotten zero callers. Then I go back to the regular sizing & get 4-5. Still trying to find that happy medium! Could just be a coincidence as well. Thanks for the feedback
@@NorCal_Poker def depends on the table and each person individually. Try betting a little bit more like 2 or 4 bb more than usual and just keep upping it throughout the session to see how much they’ll call, always adjust to the table. Also don’t forget to punish limpers by raising or reraising even higher when you have a good hand.
Good videos! I just recently started making poker vlogs too, I do small stakes and you can make some decent money doing. Keep up the great work! 🎉
Agreed & good luck on the journey! I’ll check out your channel
Solid video. Was great playing and chatting with you!
You too my man!
@NorCal_Poker today made 7 straight days of playing. Roughly 25 hours in total. +915 for the week!
That’s why you fast play those sets. 🎰
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How much is the rake at capital? It’s 10% up the $15 plus $1 at our casinos
$6 over $9 pot
The lefty with TDS made it all worth it. Good analogy
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To be honest with you bro I feel you with JJ hands, sometimes I just fold them right away to save my heart attacks after flop and turn with hitting anything 😅😅❤ Nice plays anyway good luck brother.
Haha I feel that & good luck to you too!
the question really is...WHAT is a "pro"? if it is someone that "plays for a living", then YES,
but what kind of a living is in question. poker pros have to take care of health insurance, rent, food,
utilities, loved ones, car, insurances and any entertainment. also has to survive DOWNSWINGS, their own EGO and playing beyond their bankroll. REALISTIC answer to your question.....almost always...NOPE.
i know a few that could, but they ALWAYS play bigger.....using the "peter principle".....they rise to the
level of their own incompetence....and invariably go busted when their EGO is not willing to allow them to move down in stakes.
your videos are great.
This is a really good analysis Paul. The “pro” definition I was using is “playing for a living.” Which is great to have the freedom but like you said, it’s almost always not sustainable with the Ego part. Thanks for the feedback!
I play a lot of 1/2 and 2/5 on weekends. Or 1/2 table stakes on Friday or Saturday. I consider myself semi professional. My bills aren’t that much. It’s tough with inflation.
@@frank78855 you’re a grinder!
Did it for 5 years before I moved up. California much more expensive than Pa but my overhead was super high kept taking from my roll to pay bills so if anything it’s very possible but moving up will be tough because there’s not much left to add to roll for shot takes. California cost of living plus California rake makes it tough.
I like the analysis. In CA, I think it’s best as supplemental income if you can’t move up
Yeah high rake is a mofo, I had to play higher levels because the rake was just ridiculous at the lower levels making it virtually unplayable. Would love access to a softish 3/5 game with reasonable rake.
Great video
Appreciate that!
They let you cross the line with chips and pull some of them back there?
Usually not. I saw that I did that too on replay. Surprised I didn’t get called out on it. Didn’t have enough chips in hand!
gotta play against you some time. im usually there too but mostly a baccarat player
I hear Baccarat is a different animal.. respect!
Just subscribed.
Nice work 😊
Thank you!
Nice fold w ktdd. Most low stakes players never find that fold.
Appreciate the compliment 🙌🏻
Feeler bet for value ?
Just a bet where it’s probably for value but you’re not too sure lol
Here's how you play JJ. If RFI, raise. If facing RFI just smooth call OOP, if IP 3-bet. You're mostly looking to hit a set. If you get 4-bet just fold, especially at 1/3.
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Most players are poor at seeing ev and winning hands separately. If you lose 4 out of 5 hands but have positive ev overall from the one win , then it may not be a bad play. JJ are the 4th or 5th most profitable hand but you need to learn how to play poker with them!
The sample size is woefully small. My guess is in the long run the best one could do is about 10-15 an hour... these 5 session were way over any reasonable expectations.
I beat the local $1/2 game for $19/hour for 2 years. Doug Mccusker (another vlogger at Capitol casino) has beaten this game for $40/hour + for years on end
youll probably need 200+ sessions over the course of a few years to determine if its viable to be a pro
No doubt about it
Was the older Gentleman Doug McCusker?
It wasn’t. I’ll mention his name when we play together! He’ll be featured in my video tomorrow
Most players won't cope with variance when it hits them. Have they got say 6 - 8 months living expenses and say 100 - 200 buyins at $300. If so, go for it. Your comments / Doug McCusker are pretty spot on.
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I can assure you ,from personal experience, that it is absolutely possible. I've been doing it, with zero supplemental income, for three years now. You have to adapt, and stay out ofynyour own head, and trust your instincts, often!
I definitely believe it’s possible! Wouldn’t do it myself, but definitely think it’s doable
You need a lot of improvement but you’re doing good for a new player.
You can tell by how you speak that you are unsure of where you’re at a lot of the time.
Try to realize where you are. Have a reason for all of your action. Your reasons should be logic and reasoning.
Keep up the play. You’ll get better the more you keep learning!
Depends on your bankroll and your expenses but yes you can average $30/hr or so depending on how the game plays.
Facts!
With the 1 hand i dont know how to play😂
Every time!!
Man, three suckout coolers on the river. Brutal.
Tough one!
Dang, $500 dollar buy-in for a $1/$3 table.....that's a lot....here in San Diego that buy-in is more for a $2/$3 table or even a low buy-in for a $2/$5 table....
The match the stack gets wild. Some guys buy in for $1500 off rip!
@VegasPokerNomad is a $1/3 No Limit Poker Pro!
Sweet!
2/5 you can make money. Just depending on action. I was playing 1/2&1/3 last night and have tons of action. I made $750 just a little over 4 hours. 2/5 I average 1k-1.5k winning
Nice scores!
15:17 Pro move considering agro players are in the pot lol Bait them to your rod oh great one ❤❤❤❤
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1/3 pro ??? How much does it cost you to sit in that seat per hour ???
Too much
5 sessions? Play with a variance calculator, you can run good/bad for 150k hands. Thats months and months and months of daily grinding. You can be hot for weeks on end, then brick for a month. 5 days is meaningless data set..
Agreed, it was mainly for content my man
BOB SAGET!
🤣🤣 glad someone knows!
could edit your videos to play at 1.25x speed. Good video 👍
Good point. Gunna try to cut them down to 15-18 minutes
15" POKER HAAAAARRRRDDD
Easy when you flop sets 😆
You need to raise more pre flop to isolate and with that board on the flop I would bet 85% of the pot
Fair point
If you're playing in a poker room that's so bad that you're stuck with bomb pots just fold if you're not nutted.
I like it. Wanted to peel one on turn just in case he was value betting overpairs then was gunna fold a river bet
The guy that had 2 4 against your aces in a bomb pot should not have checked that river
Agreed!
The bomb pot head when you had aces.When he calls on the flop it's pretty polarized that he has a four and I think you're seventy five dollar call on the turn might be a waste because he's not better anything there other than the four
Fair point. I thought he’d bet 88-KK there for value/protection which is why I called. Could definitely see a fold though! Thanks for the feedback
Those sessions are short. Realistically pros play about 40-60 hrs a week.
Facts. This was more of an experiment to get a feel of playing 5 days a week. My thoughts on not making it a sole income for the pure risk factor is why I don’t recommend it! Best for supplemental income at the $1/3 level
i had an amount of dejavu not equal to zero at the end of this one.
very wierd.
Bullets are Queens, Aces are pocket rockets.
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Buddy took 5 days to play one session 😂
Haha touché. If I could play long sessions I would
The rake is $5 per hand, even if the pot is just $20?
Yup, every pot over $9 🤮
@@NorCal_PokerIf the pot is $10, they take $5?
@@PokerStarsPA yes, criminal
Agreed. Is there a promo drop too?
@@PokerStarsPA yup $1 on top
I think 5 sessions is too small of a sample. I think you need 20K hands to overcome statistical variance and see the true trend (law of large numbers). 20K hands @ 25 hands/hr would take 800 hours of play. If you play 40 hours a week, that would take 20 weeks. Do you consider how much you pay in rake/table-time? How much do you tip? etc.
I agree. It was a small unreliable sample size mainly used for content & to get a small snap shot if it’s possible. I think 800 hours of play is a great sample size
I'm not sure if winning 5 straight sessions constitutes being a pro?
Never said I was a pro??
Can you do this for 60 days
Me: no
Someone else: yes
Someone should make a video about the "lifestyles" of a 1-3 poker pro...NON_TENT!!!!!
That would be glorious
I play full time.. you have to be the best no exception or you will be toasted
Facts, you gotta play your A game often to make it sustainable!
Why would you ever bet all-in on a 3-club flop board, when one of the 3 other opponents is likely to have any 2-club hand? You left yourself no back door to bail if you choose. Part of a winning strategy is to limit your losses when possible, and this hand clearly demonstrates that.
Work in progress my friend!
that a full against aq hand was disgusting
That one hurt!
I guarantee you that you can’t be a poker professional on that level.Maybe on 5/10 and above you make a profit but even then you have to be tough player.Look all of those pros who playing for years almost everyone is broke.Most of them have backers that’s why they are still in the game!.
I think it’s possible at $1/3 match the stack which is basically $2/5+, but it’s definitely not a lavish lifestyle that seems worth grinding for with all the stress involved. Thanks for the feedback!
$1/$3 in Sacramento is a completely different (way bigger/better) game than $1/$3 in Vegas and most of the country
@@alexklupchak9012facts!
Man the 1/3 in upstate ny. I can guarantee you that if your a good player you can easily make a few grand a night if you can overcome some variance. Alot of fishes with money and its match the stack
@@chadpflanz8745 turning stone?
This is a game for that usually the cheap grinders play and try to make 50-100 a day That they try to eat off of uneducated players or recreational players They take a beat and act like the world is ending
To make it real you definitely need a larger limit or go play blackjack
Those guys aren’t fun to play against. Love blackjack just don’t think it’s profitable in the long run
5:30 Some simple math for you about bomb pots. You have 8 opponents they each have two cards. 8x2=16. There are two fours left in the deck. The odds one or more opponents have a four is 100% minus the odds no one has a four. We can figure out the odds no one has a four by multiplying the odds each individual card is not a four giving us the following formula as 45/47*44/46*43/45*42/44*41/43*40/42*39/41*38/40*37/39*36/38*35/37*34/36*33/35*32/34*31/33*30/32=.4301 1 minus that is 57%. There is a 57% chance that someone flopped trips. Plus the tiny chance someone has 55. Your aces are garbage on this flop, betting money on the flop, then calling turn is lighting money on fire. But you shouldn't need to do the math to figure that out exactly, you should just see your opponents have 16 random cards and there are two fours left in the deck and not like your hand.
Thanks for the breakdown. I did think he’d call/bet overpairs on the flop/turn for protection which is why I floated. Was not calling a river bet. Appreciate the feedback!
@@NorCal_Poker He has way more fours than overpairs. Good luck.
Sat down at 2/5 cause the wait for 1/3 was too long… never again -500 in an hour
Damn, hate to see it
Raising to 15$ with Jacks over 2 limpers at Cap Casino is sillyness......this should be a limp/reraise after one of the others raises, and if they don't raise just setmine and fold for 3$
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Sooooooo many sets....how could you not win.
Wait til my next video. I’ll show you 🤣
@@NorCal_Poker Game On :) BTW....I was not implying that you are not good at poker.
@@lapampa4296 thanks & no worries, either way I find it entertaining 😅
So here is a problem. You are definitely not an for-fun type of player based on the hands you focus on and the decipline you have on the other hands you didnt show(which i assume u folded most of them and never bluff). Some of your decisions are definitely good learning examples for other amatuers as to how to raise your $ per hour. However, it takes a lot of time to achieve that experience and understanding why those decisions are made. so For you, the answer is Yes. For other ppl who are not at the same level, they are just mostly wasting their money if they decide to follow this.
I think this is a pretty sound analysis. Discipline is the #1 factor in being a winning player or not.. something I didn’t have early on in my poker journey
Variance renders 1/3 a stressful $20/hr job, which isn't much of a living. Even 2/5 is questionable.
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I disagree. $1/3 players are bad enough that a good player should have a huge edge. If you put in enough hours (e.g., 150-200 hours per month), you should pretty much never have a down month. The big thing will be whether you consistently put in the hours. If I recall correctly, Doug McCusker claims to be earning something like $50/hour in that game at capital casino. That sounds high but plausible. On the east coast (rake not drop), I expect competent players to earn at least $25/hour in $1/3, but I don’t have a good sense of what the upper bound is on a consistent win rate. If you told me there’s a pro out there earning $75/hour at $1/3, it would not surprise me.
When you move up, your *expected* hourly might be higher, but your edge will also be lower, so the variance will also be higher.
@@pokertroll320 Doug crushes the game at Capitol. But it’s not his only source of income & he plays an amount of hours where he’s at the top of his game. Putting in 200 hours a week with no benefits in a high cost of living place like CA isn’t the best lifestyle. I’m all for people going for it though
@NorCal_Poker yeah, I’m not suggesting it’s a great way to make a living - side hustle for me only. But I’m mostly replying to the variance/stress aspect. I don’t think the variance is really that a big concern big concern given how crushable the 1/3 game is. And given that a straightforward style is effective, you don’t have to stay that sharp - putting in 8 hour days does not seem hard to me. While you miss out on some potential profits, you could even get away with basically never paying attention and playing super tight. Sure, it’s boring AF, but is that worse than a normal 9-5 job? (I’m always surprised when the dude who hasn’t played a hand for 2 hours puts in a huge preflop raise and gets action, but somehow in 1/3 they often do. ) So maybe you can somewhat consistently get something in the $60-120k range without benefits for a year of work. That’s great if your alternative is a minimum wage job or some salaried job that pays $40k/year, but it’s not good compared to a typical salary for someone with a college degree.
As for Doug, (1) Doug does not appear to be doing anything special in his vlogs, i.e., he’s not a super elite player, and (2) he also doesn’t seem to be cherry-picking times of day or table selecting excessively. His play style should be easily reproducible. That said, given that he plays so few hours, it’s not clear whether his win rate is partly due to some run good-he could be realizing a win rate of say $50/hour when his true win rate should be closer $30/hour.
@@pokertroll320I can see that
Play JJ like you play 55 in full ring with 167bb.
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I’m trying out to see how much I can make from playing poker besides working full time too. So far I’ve played 158 hours since 01/03/24 profit $16744 (play 1/3). My goal is $50k by the end of this year
Love to see it! What’s your home casino?
@@NorCal_Poker Houston Texas
@@Tungngm I hear it’s crazy out there! Good luck on your goal
5 sessions to find out poker skills? that's a very reliable source.
Just for content my dude. Not very literal
You'd be a fool to play 1/3 NL for a living. A good player can expect to earn$15-$30/hr. Not enough imo, considering you don't get any benefits and if you get sick, you'll be royally screwed, no pun intended. The variance is also high so you could potentially go on a big downswing and have no income for the month. This also doesn't take into account that playing poker for 40 hours a week is dreadfully boring and your earnings likely will go down as you won't be as sharp. 2/5NL is the lowest stakes I think you can consider when playing professionally.
Preach
You didn’t need to play any sessions to answer this question. Your 1/3 game is a match the stack which isn’t normal. It’s basically a 2/5 game. Go find a max $300 buyin 1/3 game and get back to us
Fair point. I beat the local $1/2 for $19/hour for 2 years consistently & played during the day. Night time it could be done, but I would never want to live on scraps just to chase a “dream”
5 sessions to see if your a pro at 1/3? 😂😂😂
That was just for content. Obviously know you need 1000+ hours to get a decent sample size
Absolutely impossible to become a pro player playing at $1-$3 because of high rake and high variance. And you are trading your time for money without any guarantee for a paycheck. Therefore, it would be better you get a 9 to 5 job or move up in stakes, $5-$5 stakes would be the minimum stakes to play for a living as a poker pro.
I’ll always recommend a job or side hustle. Playing full time seems like it’ll take the pure joy out of poker! Could be wrong, but just my thought
You are absolutely right!
cool vlog its a loner life to play poker, its a negative for any lady to be attracted too. your health matters poker will steal it from you. the seats the room, food ,etc.. come to vegas see how you play against the regs out here...
That’s the main reason as well I just recommend it as a side hustle. As a full time gig, it just sounds depressing to be honest. Can’t imagine the stress as well
@@NorCal_Poker come to vegas you see plenty of denial players. day in day out sitting in a poker chair. they rent a room no social life 90% out of shape.
@@2wheelman Sad!
Start treating jj preflop like 8s, 9s, or 10s... and stop playing them like aa, kk, qq, ak
I’ve talked about this with one of my poker buddies. JJ & AK are monsters in higher stakes poker but in low stakes against people who never fold; it’s best to keep pots small & get value on good boards
Lol dude, poker pro???
You said A8 was a decent Ace on A99.
It's a shit Ace, always, but esp on A99
I’m no where near a poker pro my man 🤣
You cant be a pro without the golden 10,000 hours. You could be a prodigy and your still not pro without serving your time
Definitely think there’s merit to that
133/hr is unsustainable.
Definitely! Goal is $24/hr in 2024
definitely achievable + 5/5 goal would be a good $40/hr goal to have too@@NorCal_Poker
@@jonathansykes4986I like it!
Pocket Jack's are the MOST overrated Hand in Hold'em bar none!
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5 sessions is too small. Way too small.
You have to calculate it.
First, its hands per hour. You are dealt between 25-30 hands per hour. Lets just assume, you get dealt 30.
Second part is your personal winrate. I played poker professionally, a very good winrate online is ~3-5bb/100, crushing the game is like 8-10bb/100, such a winrate is probably not sustainable on fullring nlh, more in games like HU or PLO6max.
Lets assume, you are a crusher of the highest order. Lets assume, your opponents in a live low stakes game are close to braindead, resulting in a sick winrate of 30bb/100.
You play 10 hours. You are dealt 300 hands. You crush for 90bb, equaling 270 bucks.
Your hourly is 27 dollars. If you are a sick player. If your game is fast enough. If your opponents are complete idiots.
Lets just say you get dealt 20 hands/hour, and have a 15bb winrate. Maybe the more likely scenario. You see where this is going?
5 sessions was just for content. I know consistent winners at this game for $40+ per hour. Granted, they pick time of day, etc. Nevertheless, I would never play $1/3 full time
@@NorCal_Poker I think that winrate is basically impossible to sustain.
@@MCFoultierI just started playing this game so I’ll let you know how I end up. I know fellow vlogger Doug Mccusker consistently beats this game for $40/hr +
@@NorCal_PokerThats 45bb/100. I think thats just impossible. There are limits to what can be done.
No such thing as 1/3 poker pro lmao
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I think that it's easier if you catch the right 6/12 limit game.
Never played limit. Would love to try & find a good game if available
@@NorCal_Poker Try either Artichoke Joes in san bruno, or Lucky Chances 5 minutes down the road in Colma.
Both joints usually have millionaire asians playing cheap limit poker all day hoping for the jackpot.
Bonus hands are paid off, as well as aces cracked.
Bro there is no thing called a 1/3 professional
I mean if you wanna call barely scraping by & having your sole income playing 1/3 then it’s possible to be a “pro.” But I would never recommend
Hey brother can I hit you up on IG?
I’m gunna create an IG soon for the channel! You can ask me anything here or email for now.
norcalpoker3@gmail.com
@@NorCal_Poker thanks brother sending you an email shortly
@@P-V-Hsent you a response