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Turkey probably wants to finish the job they started in Cyprus eventually, not to mention all the nonsense always happening in the Agean. You should do a video on the italian stovl aircraft carriers.
I was surprised the air defence systems were deleted at the time of construction, but given the situation at the time, I'm guessing it was essential to save the project from being cancelled completely. it's a good design and glad it survived.
I can't find any information on it. What's the cartridge dimensions? Not just the bullet diameter but also the case length, is it 20x128mm or something else?
That was very informative. Thanks! I never knew Turkey had this type of LHD too. She's a beast all right- I see the Canberra and/or Adelaide almost every time I visit Sydney Harbour.
really? Is that here it's stationed by default? I'd love to see it up close, took my mum out to some beach park for mothers day a few weeks back and got out of the car and boom, the choules class LHD was right in front of me.
@@dan7564 Ahh, the Choules is a big girl in her own right! But yes, both Canberras are based at Fleet Base East on Garden Island. Hilariously, apartment owners close to the base complained that the first kept blocking their views with a bloodygreat wall of blank grey steel. The Navy responded "You'd better get used to it. We're putting another there soon!"
I read a book about the operations of MI6 during the Falklands war. After the first use of Exocett missiles by Argentina MI6 were all over the world buying up the Exocet, to prevent Argentina buying more.
Yet another excellent overview of a topic. The narration is smooth and relaxed, theres none of the silly razmattaz and loud music on other video channels. Dare I say though I spot one tiny oversight (whos perfect). During the Cold war it wasnt just the USN that had LHD ships, the British navy had HMS Fearless and Intrepid. These had both a he licopter deck and a wet well for landing craft. However they could not operate fixed wing aircraft like the American ones with their Harriers.
Al parecer se empieza a hablar en los medios especializados españoles de un segundo portaaeronaves para la Armada española, pero parece ser que más bien al estilo del retirado Príncipe de Asturias. Una especie de portaaviones ligero.
Prime minister of Canada talked with Navantia CEO this year about it. The spanish always worked in every country with companies of these countries, to help local companies grow and also creating jobs. The main problem of Canada if we compare with Australia, Turkey, India etc.. is the lack of Strong naval Local companies.
Weapon Detective... Do a show on total naval ships of the EU. I'd like to know how they match up to the USA. Also, do it for the neighbouring countries of China, South China Sea. Top stand alone political/military in the world today is USA, EU, China, India, Russia. No Asian blocks... where one is most needed. China arbours the hornet nest. Seeing Iron Dome perform must have really scared them. Saturation attacks are a historical tactic used in China, going back thousands of years. What scares China the most is a Japan/Korea "joining of hands". Korea is perfectly placed to defend Japan. What can Japan do to defend Korea? Japan needs a lot of small carriers to adsorb the initial volleys of missiles from China. Lines of naval ships loaded to sinking with missiles. Iron dome showed the mayhem of saturation attacks can be managed. Hordes of soldiers, or missiles, or ships, or tanks... China has always envisioned mass attacks of some kind. Take away that tactical freedom and there goes any superiority large numbers brings. 50.000 small killer drones hunting for any Chinese uniforms could swat any swarm attack. I know, reverse is true... but I'm betting the Yanks have a few tricks that they ain't a telling.
5:28 I thought that the Spanish studied the Falklands conflict when considering designs? That conflict highlighted the importance of anti-air defence systems on ships.
the lhd Juan Carlos Carlos is normally guarded with at least one F-100 frigate, it is a frigate with great anti-aircraft and anti-missile capacity as well as anti-submarine capacity. while the f-100 sails alongside the lhd Juan Carlos I, no potential threat will be able to approach at least 150 km from the flagship. But there are programs in Spain to equip the LHD with air defense.
Nice. Some pronunciation feedback. ▪Cánberra, not Canbérra ▪V is never pronounced like W or U ▪Build is pronounced Bild ▪The AU in Australia and Launch is pronounced Ô.
It is 'believed' to assist in getting A/C ( such as Harriers [which I was surprised the Spanish were keeping for Much longer than I thought!!] and F-35Bs with a heavier weapons load out ... to get into the air on such a "short runway". But if you look at the American class LHAs and LHDs .... They DON'T have it, and they are able to launch their A/C easily. But You also have to consider ....... How far do they need to fly to combat?? IF you are using your jets (Harriers / F-35B) for short assaults on beach, fire support..... just get the plane into the air and waste the fuel getting it UP there (in the air and over the target). On-the-other hand, if you are doing a CAP (carrier air patrol) you need to conserve fuel...thus having the 'ski-ramp' idea is adequate! This is MY thinking as a USN Veteran of 20+ years escorting those ships of the US......does that make sense, that is what "I" am thinking, especially the first paragraph.
the carrier ramp assists in the launch of the aircraft, effectively increasing runway length. This means that more fuel and weapons can be carried aboard an aircraft from the same span of runway without the use of a catapult.
@@tremedar Hate to tell ya..... but I been doing 'Police Actions' for 20+ years.................. USN Veteran! My profession ...... is hunting subs....And I don't mean the ones from SubWay!!!
@DD X Is not a white majority country but they have a huge white population with around 40% of its population being white. Meaning they have more whites than Germany.
Sorry mate, but your information for the Canberra Class is incorrect. The flight deck was modified during construction and is no longer rated for for fixed wing operations. The Camberra class is purely a helicopter only vessel, its not even rated for the V-22 Osprey
Lol, the V-22 that has operated from the Canberra class on a number of occasions? The V-22 that the the US marines and RAN have jointly developed standard operating procedures for to enable deployment on the Canberra class? Do you get your info from a weaties box?
A bit of a correction on the Australian lhd when we were building them the Labour Party got in on the deal right as it was about to be finalised and they decided to remove everything good originally we were going to procure a reinforced structure and heat treated deck for the f 35b then they decided nah it’s to expensive let’s just save some money here then the weapons were TOO much and they decided yeah let’s get rid of those the front of the ship was going to beach land and the propellers would retract for shallow water operations labour decided do we really want that and they turned into sht and now we have this the only good improvements made where the islands superstructure the increased 50 cal guns and the typhoon mounts doesn’t excuse the crap radar lack of a missile system and much more
Of interest is the Australian purchase of Apache attack helicopters which will replace the Tiger helicopters now used on the LHDs. Apaches are not only more lethal they are faster than the Tigers. Historical note. Apaches top speed can match the average carrier fighters flight speeds of WW2. Very hand when sweeping beachheads of threats when on amphibious assault missions.
Great video again mate. But good fortune for the British?? I have to take account with you there. Mate it was 8000 miles from the UK to the Falklands, a couple of hundred from Argentina, and Argentina had an aircraft carrier too. The British won because they were better trained and were better soldiers. The good fortune all laid with Argentina, it just didn’t work out the way they hoped. 👍
Actually, by British luck, we mean Argentina's big mistake. If Argentina had waited another year, they would have had more than four AM39s. In the UK, due to budget cuts, HMS Hermes would be decommissioned and HMS Invincible would be sold to Australia.
@@snowyren5135 Big brother? Who was that exactly? Whilst there were some very good units from the Argentine military, you would literally have to be completely mad to say that the British forces weren’t better trained than the Argentines. That’s an absolute ridiculous comment! But clearly you are entitled to your own opinion. 👍
The Falklands campaign was only going to end one way, the English were going to slog it out no matter what, that’s what they do, professional army vs. conscripts,
I'm sure they could acquire the technical info, same as for Harrier. Not gonna lie, a Turkish hybrid of Yak-141 and Harrier design would be pretty neat, just for being so silly.
@Kcid Deah yeah, I really am. At least about the last bit. But I do think Turkey wouldn't have trouble getting technical info on Yak-141 or Harrier to try and design their own plane. That part was serious.
They shouldnt purchase anything from Russia. Theyre a NATO state, and btw, the weapon systems western countries can provide are much better than the russian propaganda toys anyways.
Here we go again.......... It was NOT good luck that we re took the Falklands, it was the quality of the men who travelled the 8,000 miles to the home of a few thousand British islanders and freed them from illegal occupation. The British infantry had to walk across the Islands in truly appalling conditions and then fight a well dug in enemy, they were outnumbered and outgunned on many occasions but the quality of the British soldiers is legendary....for a good reason.... so they achieved a fantastic victory. When the 10,000+ Argentine soldiers surrendered, they couldn't believe how few British soldiers there actually was. So fella........PLEASE DO NOT DOWNPLAY AN AMAZING VICTORY. 🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
And Margaret Thatcher. Only person who had the balls & conviction to get the troops down there. Long long way down there. A Negative Truth for the minority to swallow. Must delete! .....
What's the point of building what are essentially light/Assault Carriers just to limit their ability to defend themselves project power engage with and defeat peer level aggressors? If they didn't want an LHD/LHA then they should have invested in more LzpD or LSD type vessels like the Karel Doorman or San Antonio Class,I could just be over thinking it though smh wasted money.......
just as you say .... ïf the islands were closer to Argentina, you could say if they were closer to UK ... "if" is a big would ... a bit like ïf Hitler had died in WW1 .... if seldom happens .... like if they had more Exocets, rather than if the Brits had remembered to reprogram that 'friendly' (Nato) missile into the belligerent side of their early warning radar systems ... as it was, when those missiles were fired, they didn't recognize the danger until too late .... but then, military and intelligence is an oxymoron, on both sides ... and luckily for the Brits, their political leaders weren't all military
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Turkey probably wants to finish the job they started in Cyprus eventually, not to mention all the nonsense always happening in the Agean.
You should do a video on the italian stovl aircraft carriers.
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It is planned to install in Juan Carlos I a new CIWS system, a spanish development named CIWS TAO by Escribano Mechanical and engineering.
I was surprised the air defence systems were deleted at the time of construction, but given the situation at the time, I'm guessing it was essential to save the project from being cancelled completely. it's a good design and glad it survived.
I can't find any information on it. What's the cartridge dimensions? Not just the bullet diameter but also the case length, is it 20x128mm or something else?
That was very informative. Thanks! I never knew Turkey had this type of LHD too. She's a beast all right- I see the Canberra and/or Adelaide almost every time I visit Sydney Harbour.
really? Is that here it's stationed by default? I'd love to see it up close, took my mum out to some beach park for mothers day a few weeks back and got out of the car and boom, the choules class LHD was right in front of me.
@@dan7564 Ahh, the Choules is a big girl in her own right! But yes, both Canberras are based at Fleet Base East on Garden Island. Hilariously, apartment owners close to the base complained that the first kept blocking their views with a bloodygreat wall of blank grey steel. The Navy responded "You'd better get used to it. We're putting another there soon!"
Fantastic video. The choice of music is impeccable.
Its very interesting Video! Thanks for the information in detail.
I read a book about the operations of MI6 during the Falklands war. After the first use of Exocett missiles by Argentina MI6 were all over the world buying up the Exocet, to prevent Argentina buying more.
Yet another excellent overview of a topic. The narration is smooth and relaxed, theres none of the silly razmattaz and loud music on other video channels. Dare I say though I spot one tiny oversight (whos perfect). During the Cold war it wasnt just the USN that had LHD ships, the British navy had HMS Fearless and Intrepid. These had both a he licopter deck and a wet well for landing craft. However they could not operate fixed wing aircraft like the American ones with their Harriers.
Thank you for your nice comment. The Fearless-class is generally described as landing platform docks (LPD).
Spot on 'alex spareone'!! And you are correct the Narration is quite good and the topics are Various!!!
I Enjoy the video 👍🏿
Will you please do a review of the Italian ships Cavour and Trieste. Thank you and great channel 👌
How many rod holders does it have?
Al parecer se empieza a hablar en los medios especializados españoles de un segundo portaaeronaves para la Armada española, pero parece ser que más bien al estilo del retirado Príncipe de Asturias.
Una especie de portaaviones ligero.
Canada should run 2-3 of those.
Prime minister of Canada talked with Navantia CEO this year about it. The spanish always worked in every country with companies of these countries, to help local companies grow and also creating jobs. The main problem of Canada if we compare with Australia, Turkey, India etc.. is the lack of Strong naval Local companies.
I was on Iwo Jima in 1979
Weapon Detective... Do a show on total naval ships of the EU. I'd like to know how they match up to the USA. Also, do it for the neighbouring countries of China, South China Sea. Top stand alone political/military in the world today is USA, EU, China, India, Russia. No Asian blocks... where one is most needed. China arbours the hornet nest. Seeing Iron Dome perform must have really scared them. Saturation attacks are a historical tactic used in China, going back thousands of years. What scares China the most is a Japan/Korea "joining of hands". Korea is perfectly placed to defend Japan. What can Japan do to defend Korea? Japan needs a lot of small carriers to adsorb the initial volleys of missiles from China. Lines of naval ships loaded to sinking with missiles. Iron dome showed the mayhem of saturation attacks can be managed. Hordes of soldiers, or missiles, or ships, or tanks... China has always envisioned mass attacks of some kind. Take away that tactical freedom and there goes any superiority large numbers brings. 50.000 small killer drones hunting for any Chinese uniforms could swat any swarm attack. I know, reverse is true... but I'm betting the Yanks have a few tricks that they ain't a telling.
Always Remember Princess Leonor 😍
But can it be retrofitted with a catapult to lower fuel requirement in launch?
Nope.
NO a catapult is a big waste of money and costs a lot to use. It's also slower the UK learned this in 1982
@@RJM1011nonsense. UK could not have learned anything about catapults in 1982 because their last CATOBAR aircraft carrier was decommissioned in 1979.
Wow, Indian Navy buying 4 of these. So we will be having 2 Aircraft carriers and 4 LHDs . Jai Hind
Also india will be installing brahmos missile system on this, and barak 8 missile defence system along with russian ciws
Edaan.. Sebagai negara maritim Indonesia harus punya kapal kayak gini
Spain is diferent 💯💯❤
5:28 I thought that the Spanish studied the Falklands conflict when considering designs? That conflict highlighted the importance of anti-air defence systems on ships.
Cost related issues. The ship was build when in the global recession period.
They have specialized air defense fregates. They didnt want to waste space for tasks these ships could do much more efficient.
the lhd Juan Carlos Carlos is normally guarded with at least one F-100 frigate, it is a frigate with great anti-aircraft and anti-missile capacity as well as anti-submarine capacity. while the f-100 sails alongside the lhd Juan Carlos I, no potential threat will be able to approach at least 150 km from the flagship. But there are programs in Spain to equip the LHD with air defense.
Nice tall hull would be easy to to see on radar.
Doesn't matter, carriers are always easy to spot.
Strike group means nothing to you obviously,back to school
Nice.
Some pronunciation feedback.
▪Cánberra, not Canbérra
▪V is never pronounced like W or U
▪Build is pronounced Bild
▪The AU in Australia and Launch is pronounced Ô.
Always interesting to see Aussies teaching the Queen's English - like Mexicans teaching the King's Spanish....
What is with all the ski slope carriers?
It is 'believed' to assist in getting A/C ( such as Harriers [which I was surprised the Spanish were keeping for Much longer than I thought!!] and F-35Bs with a heavier weapons load out ... to get into the air on such a "short runway".
But if you look at the American class LHAs and LHDs .... They DON'T have it, and they are able to launch their A/C easily. But You also have to consider ....... How far do they need to fly to combat??
IF you are using your jets (Harriers / F-35B) for short assaults on beach, fire support..... just get the plane into the air and waste the fuel getting it UP there (in the air and over the target). On-the-other hand, if you are doing a CAP (carrier air patrol) you need to conserve fuel...thus having the 'ski-ramp' idea is adequate!
This is MY thinking as a USN Veteran of 20+ years escorting those ships of the US......does that make sense, that is what "I" am thinking, especially the first paragraph.
the carrier ramp assists in the launch of the aircraft, effectively increasing runway length. This means that more fuel and weapons can be carried aboard an aircraft from the same span of runway without the use of a catapult.
@@Hey_MikeZeroEcho22P If you're concerned about fuel, you have bigger problems and should leave police actions to someone else.
@@tremedar Hate to tell ya..... but I been doing 'Police Actions' for 20+ years.................. USN Veteran! My profession ...... is hunting subs....And I don't mean the ones from SubWay!!!
@@tremedar Better listen to 'Police' that might be as close to 'police actions' that you'll get! J/K!!!
Technical note: The background music is distracting (with a tendency of being annoying).
Yeah, the R.A.N /A.D.F say they aren’t going to do a lot of things in future . ….but do eventually when the shit looks like it’s gonna hit the fan.
India is looking for LHD's. I really hop it's Juan Carlos so indian Tejas aircraft can land in it !!
Holly sh.. It's not a freaking "sky" jump.. It's the SKI ramp..
Not in Spain.
It would be a good purchase option for Argentina and Brazil too.
Argentina can't afford jack shit
LOL, Argentina can not afford fuel for their joke airforce or bullets for their guns let alone a ship
@DD X Nonsense, Brazil has the largest economy in all of South America.
@DD X Yet Brazil has the largest navy in South America. and the largest airforce, Argentina has no operational ships or aircraft worth a mention.
@DD X Is not a white majority country but they have a huge white population with around 40% of its population being white.
Meaning they have more whites than Germany.
Sorry mate, but your information for the Canberra Class is incorrect. The flight deck was modified during construction and is no longer rated for for fixed wing operations. The Camberra class is purely a helicopter only vessel, its not even rated for the V-22 Osprey
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@@stephensharp7145 thanks for that mate, the last I had heard it was rated for them. Nice to see that they are
Lol, the V-22 that has operated from the Canberra class on a number of occasions? The V-22 that the the US marines and RAN have jointly developed standard operating procedures for to enable deployment on the Canberra class? Do you get your info from a weaties box?
The Osprey has landed on the Canberra-class before
It's not a "sky jump ramp" it's a "skee jump ramp"
With the kuznetsov Dead and probably unsalvageable. The Liaoning sucking big time.
These appear to be very formidable small carriers.
Liaoning is good for what it's worth and Kuznetsov is being repaired and should return to service by the mid-late part of the decade.
@@Nathanct43 this comment didnt age well.
@@paul123ggggggggg how so?
A bit of a correction on the Australian lhd when we were building them the Labour Party got in on the deal right as it was about to be finalised and they decided to remove everything good originally we were going to procure a reinforced structure and heat treated deck for the f 35b then they decided nah it’s to expensive let’s just save some money here then the weapons were TOO much and they decided yeah let’s get rid of those the front of the ship was going to beach land and the propellers would retract for shallow water operations labour decided do we really want that and they turned into sht and now we have this the only good improvements made where the islands superstructure the increased 50 cal guns and the typhoon mounts doesn’t excuse the crap radar lack of a missile system and much more
"The evil labours ruined everything", bla bla bla.
@@abraham2172 I’d rather deal with scomos stupidity than be sold to China just to reduce tax’s by a few cents
Of interest is the Australian purchase of Apache attack helicopters which will replace the Tiger helicopters now used on the LHDs. Apaches are not only more lethal they are faster than the Tigers. Historical note. Apaches top speed can match the average carrier fighters flight speeds of WW2. Very hand when sweeping beachheads of threats when on amphibious assault missions.
The Apache isn't compatible with the Canberra-class
Great video again mate. But good fortune for the British?? I have to take account with you there. Mate it was 8000 miles from the UK to the Falklands, a couple of hundred from Argentina, and Argentina had an aircraft carrier too. The British won because they were better trained and were better soldiers. The good fortune all laid with Argentina, it just didn’t work out the way they hoped. 👍
Actually, by British luck, we mean Argentina's big mistake. If Argentina had waited another year, they would have had more than four AM39s. In the UK, due to budget cuts, HMS Hermes would be decommissioned and HMS Invincible would be sold to Australia.
@@WeaponDetective agreed👍 it would’ve been very different.
Better soldiers my arse, they had big brother provide them with massive logistical support that made the amphibious operation possible.
@@snowyren5135 Big brother? Who was that exactly? Whilst there were some very good units from the Argentine military, you would literally have to be completely mad to say that the British forces weren’t better trained than the Argentines. That’s an absolute ridiculous comment! But clearly you are entitled to your own opinion. 👍
@@snowyren5135 LOL !
Yea HELP Niicaraguua!!!!!!!!
The Falklands campaign was only going to end one way, the English were going to slog it out no matter what, that’s what they do, professional army vs. conscripts,
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Turkey should purchase the YAK 141 from Russia ,a modern version will be great for export fir Russia especially to its allies
Russia doesn't make yak 141 anymore sadly
I'm sure they could acquire the technical info, same as for Harrier.
Not gonna lie, a Turkish hybrid of Yak-141 and Harrier design would be pretty neat, just for being so silly.
@Kcid Deah yeah, I really am. At least about the last bit.
But I do think Turkey wouldn't have trouble getting technical info on Yak-141 or Harrier to try and design their own plane. That part was serious.
They shouldnt purchase anything from Russia. Theyre a NATO state, and btw, the weapon systems western countries can provide are much better than the russian propaganda toys anyways.
The Harrier would be a lot better for them if that was still being built new.
Here we go again.......... It was NOT good luck that we re took the Falklands, it was the quality of the men who travelled the 8,000 miles to the home of a few thousand British islanders and freed them from illegal occupation.
The British infantry had to walk across the Islands in truly appalling conditions and then fight a well dug in enemy, they were outnumbered and outgunned on many occasions but the quality of the British soldiers is legendary....for a good reason.... so they achieved a fantastic victory.
When the 10,000+ Argentine soldiers surrendered, they couldn't believe how few British soldiers there actually was. So fella........PLEASE DO NOT DOWNPLAY AN AMAZING VICTORY. 🇬🇧🇬🇧✌✌
Exactly 👍
And Margaret Thatcher. Only person who had the balls & conviction to get the troops down there. Long long way down there. A Negative Truth for the minority to swallow.
Must delete! .....
With the QE, Argentina would never get ashore.
@@donaldclifford5763
Actually the Argentine would have made it ashore since the QE would have been dispatched after the fact.
@@Venezolano410 The knowledge of her existence deters foolish aggression. And if they're slow learners, too bad.
The problem with this ship is that is impossible to upgrade it to the F35B - oops.
not true
@@mathewferstl7042 According to the RAN it is very true. Read their report and cry.
@@cadengrace5466 could you sound more like a chinese bot
@@mathewferstl7042 Your opinion on the matter is irrelevant. The only opinion that does matter is that of the RAN.
@@cadengrace5466 you say it's impossible but it isn't, the spanish navy is looking to do that
What's the point of building what are essentially light/Assault Carriers just to limit their ability to defend themselves project power engage with and defeat peer level aggressors? If they didn't want an LHD/LHA then they should have invested in more LzpD or LSD type vessels like the Karel Doorman or San Antonio Class,I could just be over thinking it though smh wasted money.......
LoL that's why they're accompany by destroyers, frigates and subs
just as you say .... ïf the islands were closer to Argentina, you could say if they were closer to UK ... "if" is a big would ... a bit like ïf Hitler had died in WW1 .... if seldom happens .... like if they had more Exocets, rather than if the Brits had remembered to reprogram that 'friendly' (Nato) missile into the belligerent side of their early warning radar systems ... as it was, when those missiles were fired, they didn't recognize the danger until too late .... but then, military and intelligence is an oxymoron, on both sides ... and luckily for the Brits, their political leaders weren't all military
Small, slow and no capacity. In short, a sitting duck.
The Spanish and Turks are the only 2 treating this ship with dignity, Helicopters only? Lol come on.
AMERICA CAME OUT WITH LHD IN THE EARLY 70s,,,boring
This is only a decoration , it does not help the world to address the Russians and Chinese aggressions.