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  • čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
  • Town Hall: A Black Queer Podcast is back from hiatus, diving into the complexities of colorism. Join Peppermint and Bob the Drag Queen as they explore this crucial topic. This episode features interviews with Lashawn (@love.lashaaawn), a drag queen, comedian, epic fantasy writer, and community builder proudly belonging to the Afro-Caribbean, queer, and gaming communities; Amryn (@peppermintpattytypegalpal), a visual artist, creative, and musician from New Mexico, who shares their journey of overcoming harmful colorist beliefs and embracing blackness in all shades; and Alexia (@alexia.is.that.gurl), an Afro-Latina singer, actor, dancer, and director from Jersey City, who discusses her unique experiences as a light-skinned, mixed-race person of Latin descent. Tune in for an insightful discussion on colorism's impact and the journey to self-acceptance.
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    Special thanks to our Production Team: Executive Producer, Tracy Marquez. Senior Producer, Charlene Westbrook. Producer, Cory Nixon, and Post Producer, Amelia Ritthaler. Music by Lafemmebear.
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Komentáře • 113

  • @JataviousX
    @JataviousX Před 24 dny +179

    I'm telling my kids this is Obama and Kamala Harris.

  • @JB-nj7nq
    @JB-nj7nq Před 24 dny +49

    Peppermint voice: rAcE?!😂❤ But in all seriousness Happy pride y'all!! I also fucked with Mavis beacon Bob!!! She was the first black lady as a little Black kid to teach me how to type and do groceries ❤😂😂😂

  • @jmouay
    @jmouay Před 24 dny +35

    it’s 6am, i’ve never been so early to an episode.

  • @bunnylaroux
    @bunnylaroux Před 24 dny +12

    Thank you for shouting out C Maddox! Biiiiiittttccchhh! RIP to a queen. Great conversation, signed a black girl with kinky hair owning her beautiful

  • @nikki80368
    @nikki80368 Před 23 dny +6

    First off, thank you so much to Bob, Peppermint, all the speakers, and the production team for bringing this wonderful discussion to your platform!! I dont think I'm exaggerating when I say listening to this helped me out of a mid-afternoon spiral. Theres just something so calming about hearing the thoughts you've had haunting your mind for yearssssss, just be spoken and discussed out loud, with no judgement attached. I love the variety of experiences yall share. Even if there are points I dont personally relate to, hearing another perspective really helps put some of my personal worries at ease. Where I live, having these kinds of talks is difficult, even with the best of intentions. Listening to yall speak help me feel not so crazy in my corner of the world. Love and light ❤

  • @jessLaughBro
    @jessLaughBro Před 24 dny +12

    The thumbnail alone got me excited, and I haven't even watched the video yet lol I love these two and I especially love hearing Bob speak on anything.

  • @JB-nj7nq
    @JB-nj7nq Před 24 dny +39

    🎉This is from Wikipedia bob on Mavis beacon: ""The model chosen to be the face of Mavis was Haitian-born Renée L'Espérance, who was discovered working behind the perfume counter at Saks Fifth Avenue Beverly Hills by former talk-show host and partner at The Software Toolworks Les Crane in 1985,"

  • @JB-nj7nq
    @JB-nj7nq Před 24 dny +20

    A gay 80s gay corn star had to lie and say he was white even though he was Hispanic so it's wild what you have to do to TRY and even AVOID colorism

    • @ericdwhitmorec
      @ericdwhitmorec Před 23 dny

      Was he a white Hispanic?

    • @QuadElementals
      @QuadElementals Před 22 dny

      I've never heard of that, what's his name? Was he fair skinned? How did he hide that for so long?

  • @h3zANDRU
    @h3zANDRU Před 17 dny +3

    The model chosen to be the face of Mavis was Haitian-born Renée L'Espérance, who was discovered working behind the perfume counter at Saks Fifth Avenue Beverly Hills by former talk-show host and partner at The Software Toolworks Les Crane in 1985. Mavis's name comes from a combination of Mavis Staples (one of the software developer's favorite singers) and the word beacon (an allusion to her role as a guide to typing)

  • @ChristianStran
    @ChristianStran Před 24 dny +8

    Peppermint gets more and more beautiful. Aging SO gracefully ❤

  • @mykltv
    @mykltv Před 24 dny +11

    in all seriousness I love and admire these two for educating on a much needed topic, however all I can think of is bob saying... "This my reeelll hair henny" - Q

  • @jmouay
    @jmouay Před 24 dny +17

    ms peppermint is beyond gorgeous ♡

  • @migmikko
    @migmikko Před 22 dny +6

    How does BOB have time for all these gigs? He was with Madonna, now hes on the Traitors, hes going on a solo comedy tour and lets not forget that he is in mourning ! Kuddos to a hardworking individual !

  • @JB-nj7nq
    @JB-nj7nq Před 24 dny +5

    I am so SO HAPPY bob talked about the drag artist C Maddox!! I grew up watching her drag queen make-up videos so I'm happy someone else can talk about their greatness RIP C MADDOX 🎉❤❤

    • @Layneee323
      @Layneee323 Před 24 dny +1

      Loving seeing the love in the comments for C Maddox too ❤ I grew up watching her too and think about her so often I’m glad she’s still in people’s hearts and memories

  • @JB-nj7nq
    @JB-nj7nq Před 24 dny +15

    People that still say they have " jungle fever" nowadays irritate me

    • @ChristianStran
      @ChristianStran Před 24 dny +2

      That is so so cringey. 😅

    • @beevonerd
      @beevonerd Před 23 dny +2

      I still sing the theme from the movie sometimes, ngl Stevie Wonder ate that shit uuuupppppp 😂😂

  • @gothgirlfriend713
    @gothgirlfriend713 Před 23 dny +4

    I remember Mavis Beacon!! Thanks for this podcast, I learned a lot. The guest speakers were great.

  • @jamiesssssssss
    @jamiesssssssss Před 23 dny +2

    Grateful to hear light shined on Sinterklaus, a terrible racist holiday tradition. In Rhinebeck & Kingston in NY's Hudson Valley region, there are still yearly Sinterklaus parades despite public outcry which is really tragic.

  • @myriamtouil3347
    @myriamtouil3347 Před 24 dny +3

    Thank you for your work ❤

  • @tyannokay
    @tyannokay Před 24 dny +6

    Yes, Morris Day!!! Bob, you gotta see Purple Rain.

  • @torihuerta7039
    @torihuerta7039 Před 24 dny +9

    when are we getting peppermint back in playing video games !!! pleaseeee

  • @user-ct6dv1us3j
    @user-ct6dv1us3j Před 24 dny +6

    bob doing another video on colorism🤨 with PEPPERMINT 🥳

  • @thedivinebrycelamore
    @thedivinebrycelamore Před 24 dny +4

    Bishhh . The way I just screamed learning that Bob will be on Traitors 3 . He is literally my favorite drag queen personality . So clever so witty . It’ll be worth watching just cuz Bob is there ( I am praying he is a traitor )

  • @ChristianStran
    @ChristianStran Před 24 dny +4

    I thought Peppermint was light-skinned, but it’s interesting to learn that she is not actually. Speaking of, they both have very youthful skin, black really don’t crack!

  • @jrome9825
    @jrome9825 Před 24 dny +2

    Love you Bob & Peppermint ❤

  • @indigocharles7445
    @indigocharles7445 Před 23 dny +2

    I love Mavis, Black Icon, she taught me typing!!

  • @Diseiye
    @Diseiye Před 23 dny +3

    Peppermint looks so good!!! ❤

  • @bobtdqvideos
    @bobtdqvideos Před 23 dny +2

    missing bob over at sibling rivalry ❤

  • @vitov3914
    @vitov3914 Před 21 dnem +1

    Aww CMaddox! I miss CMaddox so much! That was amazing surprise to hear on here.

  • @myfriendisaac
    @myfriendisaac Před 23 dny +2

    4:35 Love the Madonna praise 💐💯🎉

  • @AlexKimTO
    @AlexKimTO Před 24 dny +3

    I havn't seen Peppermint in a while. She looks so different.

  • @Long_May_They_Raine
    @Long_May_They_Raine Před 24 dny +1

    That’s so funny I just rewatched the Babadook yesterday

  • @glooperscooper
    @glooperscooper Před 23 dny +5

    We gotta work on the lag. The talking over one another is too overstimulating for me lmao

  • @nandikmusic
    @nandikmusic Před 24 dny +3

    Mavis Beacon was that gworl. Typing classes were that!

  • @interstellartraveler8956

    Loved this episode! Very insightful to hear the impact of the blm movement outside of just the U.S, and I truly believe open dialogue like this will minimize diaspora wars going forward

  • @Mariposa-11-2007
    @Mariposa-11-2007 Před 23 dny

    Loved all these guests. I neeeeeeeed to hear Alexia's story at least once a week. She is so right about all the things! THANK YOU, Alexia 🖤🤎

  • @jackl8025
    @jackl8025 Před 24 dny

    cant wait to watch but home come y'all post at 6, 5 central? what does the algorithm know that we dont?

  • @ChristianStran
    @ChristianStran Před 24 dny +3

    I FORGOT ABOUT MAVIS BEACON 😅

  • @FocalPointElisa
    @FocalPointElisa Před 16 dny

    My Mother experienced colorism in her family and outside, and I'm thankful she didn't internalize it to the extent that she expressed the same negative sentiments to me. A darker skin black woman.
    The Fetishization of the dark black man and the light black woman... HISTORY!

  • @DemonQueen1975
    @DemonQueen1975 Před 24 dny +2

    Colorism is a disgusting and unfortunately part of everyday life, especially for people of color. Growing up as a light skinned Black girl, I was seen as White, even though I have NEVER identified as White. I've always thought of myself as Black. It was to the point where I have been called White to my face by darker skinned Black people, especially in Haiti, where my family's from. And my family is a broad spectrum of skin tones, from the lightest of the light to the darkest of the dark. I've even been told that I need some sun in some instances. And in Haiti, there's been a long and complex history regarding 'pure' Black Haitians and mulattos (those with French ancestry). I'm glad that colorism was the topic of discussion because people of color, regardless of skin tone, light skinned or dark skinned, go through it in many ways.

    • @naiynes
      @naiynes Před 24 dny

      Lightskinned people do not experience colourism. That's like saying white people experience racism.

  • @emmaroid9460
    @emmaroid9460 Před 19 dny +1

    OMG Peppermint is looking like an actual GODDESS

  • @pauliboyx
    @pauliboyx Před 24 dny +4

    peppermint is so beautiful

  • @cheapglass3068
    @cheapglass3068 Před 24 dny +3

    I haven't heard Mavis Beacon since college!

  • @BrittanyElenaRemo
    @BrittanyElenaRemo Před 24 dny +1

    It’s crazy how true this is. I’m half Filipino and can get pretty tan and used to swim and play water polo. My Lola always would say how dark I was and my friend even asked if I’m wearing sunscreen like getting tan was bad?.

    • @ianjohnson1249
      @ianjohnson1249 Před 23 dny

      Getting tan is bad for your skin. Tanning is a stress response to protect the skin. Everyone should including brown and black people wear sunblock if they wanna protect their skin from UV damage.

  • @josephm8628
    @josephm8628 Před 24 dny

    Good luck on The Traitors 3 diva ❤️❤️

  • @y2kjordi
    @y2kjordi Před 24 dny +1

    a great morning smoke vid

  • @paedreau1
    @paedreau1 Před 10 dny

    Yes, Peppermint does look stunning in every color! ❤

  • @nanoupunkie
    @nanoupunkie Před 23 dny +3

    Peppermint is serving a Senegalese woman going to a wedding

  • @ericdwhitmorec
    @ericdwhitmorec Před 23 dny +1

    A few of us actually got to the end of mavis beacon...we were shocked.

  • @randomfurby9013
    @randomfurby9013 Před 24 dny +1

    MAVIS BEACON!!! Bob that was deep reference thank you

  • @Rachel4momo
    @Rachel4momo Před 23 dny +2

    I’ve been hearing a lot of bad things about Amsterdam. We should have known they were problematic aft rear they arrested Nicki

  • @Layneee323
    @Layneee323 Před 24 dny +1

    Shout out CMaddox biitch thought of her immediately and gasped when you said her name. Love and miss that amazing queen.

  • @selalewis9189
    @selalewis9189 Před 22 dny +1

    I love the international perspective brought to this discussion. Kudos to To Black Queer Town Hall for sticking around 🤗🤗🤗

  • @justinsaraguard5130
    @justinsaraguard5130 Před 24 dny

    Not Bob bringing up two tone lips! I thought I was the only one that loved it!

  • @TheeChristopherEsley
    @TheeChristopherEsley Před 24 dny

    Shoutout to the Morris Day reference

  • @siscoramos5315
    @siscoramos5315 Před 24 dny +1

    Ok so my very first thought when this shit opened up was
    OoOoZEMPIC!

  • @nobonemarrow
    @nobonemarrow Před 24 dny +1

    i was literally starting to think mavis beacon was a mandela effect bc no one remembers her
    i was so gagged when bob brought that shit up💀💀

  • @nandikmusic
    @nandikmusic Před 24 dny +1

    1:39 Peppermint, you're flawless 😍

  • @saraht1367
    @saraht1367 Před 15 dny

    I love my two tone lips as well!!!

  • @amylou22snowhite
    @amylou22snowhite Před 24 dny +1

    Ooohey ooohey oh!

  • @dayday3439
    @dayday3439 Před 17 dny

    32 years... and never knew Mavis Beacon was black 🫣

  • @codyputman5651
    @codyputman5651 Před 9 dny

    Oh my goshhh Mavis Beacon taught me to type!!!!!!!

  • @NayNaySayersX
    @NayNaySayersX Před 24 dny +1

    💜✨💜

  • @byhookorcrookp
    @byhookorcrookp Před 21 dnem

    Please do a part II with dark skinned guests.

  • @cereyza
    @cereyza Před 23 dny +2

    the sync of this is really off :(

  • @kelseymathis544
    @kelseymathis544 Před 23 dny

  • @ericdwhitmorec
    @ericdwhitmorec Před 23 dny

    ...And The Time!

  • @jushuji
    @jushuji Před 24 dny +4

    Cute when is part two coming out with darkskin people who speak about their experiences

  • @cheecha69
    @cheecha69 Před 23 dny +1

    is peppermint ok?

  • @311Dominique
    @311Dominique Před 24 dny

    I remember using Mavis beacon to learn how to type. It didn't work, I still can't type. I believe it's my ADHD and dyslexia. It's the worst

  • @Palehotdogg
    @Palehotdogg Před 23 dny

    So glad Bobs gonna be on Traitors. Defend Miss Peppermints honor bcus the phobes were so bothered and sent her home first for NO reason at all.

  • @aaronnauer2398
    @aaronnauer2398 Před 24 dny

    Hi

  • @ericdwhitmorec
    @ericdwhitmorec Před 23 dny

    Mavis Beacon and Ghostwriter have definitely met

  • @beevonerd
    @beevonerd Před 23 dny

    Bob!! I homeschooled myself using Mavis Beacon products when I was 12-14 lmaooooo literally no one ever knows wtf that is.
    But also htf do you know that but not who MORRIS DAY is!?? My God 😮

  • @softbabymagick5614
    @softbabymagick5614 Před 24 dny +3

    peppermint looks tf good, as always, but is also aging in reverse!

    • @softbabymagick5614
      @softbabymagick5614 Před 24 dny

      thank y'all so much for doing this podcast episode, it brought up a lot of emotions for me and i feel like a LOT of people need to hear these points of views. thank u thank u thank u !

  • @thedarthflagger
    @thedarthflagger Před 24 dny

    Yall forget about Roshumba

  • @Aurian_Luna_Lou
    @Aurian_Luna_Lou Před 15 dny

    Éire sure look.... 🇨🇮

  • @Xanadudancer
    @Xanadudancer Před 22 dny +1

    Peppermint seems to be dis bumbled having hard time talking

  • @cheapglass3068
    @cheapglass3068 Před 24 dny +2

    But Aunt Jemima's grandon said his grandmother loved being Aunt Jemima and being her got her out of poverty.

  • @nandikmusic
    @nandikmusic Před 22 dny

    53:06 your lips are beautiful Bob 🥰

  • @applejuice396
    @applejuice396 Před 23 dny +4

    Talk about palestine

  • @PsychicMedium4747
    @PsychicMedium4747 Před 5 dny

    black does not come in all shades...mixed race comes in all shades

  • @MochaSmokaLatte
    @MochaSmokaLatte Před 23 dny +1

    I wonder if Bob finds dark skin guys attractive enough to date? alien conspiracy theorist say no🎉

  • @laurios693
    @laurios693 Před 21 dnem

    Stop saying "latin-ex". It's LATINE.

  • @shongueesha7875
    @shongueesha7875 Před 24 dny +5

    Not Peppermint saying she isn't lightskin and literally looking whiter than any European who just went to Spain for 2 weeks. AND then she also says she should use sunscreen. Girl bye.

    • @GoGoFiasco
      @GoGoFiasco Před 24 dny

      LMAOOOOOOO!!!! The way I’m cackling right now is so unmasculine, ROTFL!!!😩😩😩😆😆🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭 I’ve never seen a one-man draggin’ before! Hah!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @judysm95
      @judysm95 Před 22 dny +2

      Where I’m from when people say light skin they are really saying mixed, as in black and something else. Not saying that’s the correct or only way to use it, just common in my experience. That must also be the usage Pep is familiar with and why she, a child of two black people, doesn’t think of herself as light skin.