Hank Schrader Is NOT A Hero (Breaking Bad)
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I’m glad you talked about Hank’s willingness to sacrifice Jesse in order to catch Walter. It always felt like that line of dialogue was there just to show that Hank wasn’t a hero. Hank was just as obsessed with catching Walter as Walter was with getting away with it all. In the end, their obsessions ruined their lives.
you all have to stop with this toxic demasculization
@@turo_tcg It's just that you're not in the position to make such accusations nowadays; soy boys and victimism is making you all dumber than ever.
@@namedasurname3968 dude fuck off and take it to twitter with the other bums.
Yes, but his opinion of Jesse is clouded by the fact it’s not a very unique one. It’s one that’s the bog standard depiction of a druggie on Fox News.
@@kekero540 you know, junkies shouldn't be people that you find inspiring, kiddo
Walter Jr is the closest the main cast has to a hero, all he wanted was Raisin Bran Crunch and a Dodge Challanger. I can respect that.
no, he is clearly the most evil of them all... who the fuck likes raisin bran?
Hard to respect someone who’s favorite cereal is Raisin Bran
@@loezha6794 hey now. raisin bran crunch is fire
Yeah there are small seeds in the show that show Jr is a blessing to his family, post show. He's good with Holly, he speaks truth, even when the truth suxass.
Oh, I mean "Flynn"
@@loezha6794 yeah it's kind of like a pink sweater, ain't it 😆
things hank likes:
- catching bad guys
- getting a tuggy from shania twain
- minerals
things hank doesn’t like
- marie’s cooking
- speaking spanish
- tortoises
Don't forget, he also doesn't like rocks.
Don't forget that he also doesn't like fritos
He also is pretty opposed to Walt's cooking
@@ShizuMori. this is so on point
Sussy bakas
I have yet to see anyone mention this before, but the fact is that if he not taunted and mocked Walt once he arrested him, and had instead left the scene, the nazis would have never gotten him either. Ego killed hank and walt equally.
Great point. Pride and ego was his downfall.
No that 4 second wave didn’t kill him
you all have to stop with this toxic demasculization
@@namedasurname3968 you need to stop commenting this everywhere. No one is criticizing positive masculinity. This whole show is basically a demonstration of the problems of harmful masculinity.
@@dawpps still you are doing.
If you re-watch the show, you'll realise how many times he tries to break the rules of police integrity for his own benefit. Practically everything he does in the junkyard scene investigating the motor vehicle with jesse and walt in it is done in malice and was illegal for him to do.
Malice?
@@lircox Perhaps a vindictiveness for Jesse? A DEA agent wouldn't be the personality type to give two squirts of piss or validity to someone like burner Jess.
He straight up assaults Jesse nearly to death out of pure anger it's also worth noting
@@lircox yes, malice, like how he tried to force open one of the windows of the RV. He did that so he could fake a reason why he investigated it, like perhaps a suspicious smell was coming from it. It would be against the law for him to do that and he would know that
@@user-by7to8xj2e that's not what malice is
Hank isn't a quote on quote "hero", but the journey he went though though out the show made him a much better man by the time of his death than where he started at. And it's not something you can say about most of the characters in the show.
His journey was more like walking a path "toward" heroism, sure he never got to achieve that, but again, you can't say that about most of the characters.
For sure, he definitely improves as it goes on. At least prior to Gliding Over All.
'quote, unquote' 🙂
@@abbyh5158 oops
you all have to stop with this toxic demasculization
@Aleczandxr in Gliding Over All Hank Schrader found out the truth about Heinsenberg in his brother in law’s bathroom using the john if that isn’t the most emasculated violating thing Hank Schrader went through up till the end I don’t know what is. Hank Schrader refused to tell the DEA about Walt because every time with Gus and others it was always suspicion never proof he wanted Skyler to come her senses which was never possible as long as it was suspicion the moment he found out Walt was Heisenberg he had put Hank through all these dangerous traumatic yet humbling situations and Hank was beyond betrayed when he realized that the reason his death is so romanticized is he knew Jack was going to kill him regardless if he begged something Walt refused to see until Hank forced that harsh reality on Walt “you’re the smartest guy I ever met and you’re too stupid to see he made up his mind ten minutes ago “. Hank wanted closure on Heisenberg but Walt refused to give it to him so he swallowed his pride and accepted his death which led to Walt’s entire family hating him along with the entire world when they knew Walt was Heisenberg so in that way that’s the reason why Hank’s a romanticized hero years later compared to who he was in the pilot Hank and Jesse and even I’d say Marie by the end are more likable than where they began.
I can’t believe that anyone would assume that the guy who happily takes selfies with dead bodies is a hero. Hank’s a great character, and he’s a better person than most of the main cast. But that’s not saying much. He harasses people like Wendy and treats even minor drugs dealers worse than animals. He was willing to kill Jesse and constantly uses or endangers people for his own pride. He’s got a lot of good qualities, but he’s very much morally gray. He just seems better than someone like Walt who’s evil.
When did he treat minor drug dealers worse than animals?
@@crater3k he heavily disrespected the corpses of No Doze and Gonzo by taking photos with them and posting them online, IIRC. And he was expressly willing to let Walt have Jesse killed to further his investigation. He's not a good dude. He walked into his own execution
@@jimbronson14 don't think jessie and no doze and gonzo were "minor drug dealers". But I agree his behavior was inappropriate
He's genuinely a very nasty person sometimes.
people who sling meth are not minor drug dealers lol
That’s what makes breaking bad so unique and different from alot of shows. By having alot of realistic characters that are never white but in between black and grey revealing their personalities throughout the series and how it eventually let to their downfalls. Love the breakdown!
It was so hard to cheer for Walt but so hard not to cheer for him at the same time for me. That's Breaking Bad in a nutshell.
Hank is almost the best example of this. Him and Jesse.
Very true
I dunno...Walter was pretty white
@@medullaoblongata3306 no sht Sherlock
I find Hank is, in many ways, a cautionary tale about taking the law into one's own hands i.e. vigilantism and overestimating your own skills and resiliency, much like modern superheroes, but instead of the consequences being a temporary obstacle to overcome and the reward being a tough, but rich and fulfilling life, it's the reverse; any amount of 'wins' he gets don't outweigh the physical and psychological damage he endured, and the final "reward" he gets is death.
Not just vigilantism, but also prideful vigilantism. Most superheroes are vigilantes motivated by a strong sense of wanting to do good.
that's a very good point! each time he does a "cowboy" thing he gets increasingly more harmed: the PTSD, the injury that confined him to bed, etc.
Breaking Bad is a perfectly crafted propaganda piece. Everything that is done is done with absolute respect to the confines of the status quo. America needs to be invaded and conquered at least once to get the ppl there to snap out of this dream world they live in
I see, so the moral is letting evil people prosper and let the law deal with it, the law is corrupt, you know the police won't help you with stalking until the stalking kills you, won't help with drugs until the overdose won't help with CP until millions of videos are made and the child is destroyed , the list goes on and on the law has failed countless times but hey, im too lazy to become a vigilante I don't give a shit anymore heres to apathy
Hank falls into the same trap as Walt and Jesse, where they fly too close to the sun. One more cook, one more hit, one more plan to crack down on Walt and it could all be over, but just as Walt and Jesse lose everything with their last chance, so does Hank.
Also, he's not a hero, he's a mineral collector.
*Hank arrests Hugo (Janitor) for a single joint in his car*
"He's going to lose his job, so he should"
*Hank smoking illegal Cuban cigars*
"Sometimes the forbidden fruit tastes the sweetest"
What’s sad is Hugo wouldn’t be in jail if it happened today since weed is now legal in NM 😢
@@ismailtheoutlaw didn’t he die in one episode?
Not only was he arrested for that one joint, but his home was also raided over it.
Confirmed POS and hypocrit
I hate Hank with my whole heart im being completely honest and people who like him i have no idea how their so blind
It felt like he was becoming a better person until he realized Walter's betrayal. Then he started reverting back. Skylar was right he was hardly concerned with what was going to happen to her and junior. He was fine using Jesse to get Walt even if he died in the process. When he caught Walt he acted like the cocky ass he did in season 1 again
He always had his pride with him. It just needed a huge booster to make it reveal itself again.
I agree. He gave no fs about Jesse.
Yea, maybe so. He reverted back, that I can see. But WHY in the hell SHOULD HANK care what happens to Skylar? Junior and the baby, sure, yes, but Skylar? Please~!! She & the kids were the very FIRST thing he cared about if you recall him meeting her at the diner~!! I was so disappointed that BB showed us very little to indicate that Skylar might live a miserable life in return for her complicity in the stupid business. She had every intention of spending that money as described by Marie telling Hank of Skylar's European travel plans. And she brought Junior (and herself) a car which without Meth money they would not be able to afford. She left poor Ted afraid of her as a Mafia boss, when she responded deliberately, only: "Good" when he said he wouldn't breathe a word of it. And that constant %u@k-ing harping on Marie to apologize for nothing there was a need to apologize for!! AND, the video tape~? Again I say, please~! In the end, she gets to go scot free w a roof over their heads and a college education for Junior and probably the baby too. Hank had no good reason to be concerned for her. She even ended up 'using' the whereabouts of her own sister's husband, and her son's favorite person's dead body as a literal ticket to more freedom. Again, I say, scot-free~!!
Like Joe Swanson he “lost the perp”
Not to mention he had zero regard for Jesse's life. If he got killed, oh well.
I never really thought about it like that but yeah he really did use his cop privileges to let his wife shoplift..
Horrible thing to do, I don't know how people give him a pass for that.
@@jimmyichigo7410 Because he is an enemy of a “bad guy” like Walt. The same logic as Chuck being an enemy of a bad guy like Saul Goodman. Still, that didn’t make them the heroes.
you all have to stop with this toxic demasculization
@000 excellence Speak for yourself. Not everyone is as bad a person as you.
@000 excellence Sorry to tell you man, but that dude is a troll.
There are just so many layers to the characters of Breaking Bad. An absolutely brilliant show.
you all have to stop with this toxic demasculization
@@namedasurname3968 bro stop literally no one cares about your dated and incorrect definition of masculinity
@@namedasurname3968 what 💀
I've never considered him a true hero. Just the closest thing this show has one. He's flawed, as is everyone is this show. He has bad moments and good ones. He's made me mad and I've rooted for him. The great thing about this show is everyone is flawed and that's a good thing
The closest thing to one still is very far from one to be frank
you all have to stop with this toxic demasculization
@@seemonuzumaki723 that's what I like about the show. It's filled with truly flawed characters. The most likeable characters are ones that'll do things you truly don't like. And that's a great thing
Anyone who puts this guy on the pedestal of "hero" needs to take a look at themselves.
@@namedasurname3968 Temple OS cap, my nigga.
My interpretation of Hank was that he THOUGHT he was the hero of the story, but in reality he was always meant to be a deconstruction of the "morally righteous tough guy" trope rather than one played straight. He's just as layered and nuanced as any other character in this show where no one is truly pure.
Hank is simultaneously an example of the worst that people assume when they think of cops, and he can also be a really good man at times. In the end his pride lead to his downfall just like Walt, and with all that said there's no way he's a hero.
"he can be a really good man at times"
my brother in christ, he puts innocent people in prison
@@sincerelyzee521 And at the same time he learned from his mistakes and tried to do good. What a bad comment. The presence of have done bad things does not eliminate that he has done good things. I literally stated that he can be awful. Nothing you said means anything or counters anything
@@sincerelyzee521 "at times"
Dude arrests drug dealers and saves lives all day, but « he is a good person at times » 😅
@@debordeleur2005 arresting people for doing/selling drugs isn't a good thing. people should have the right to experiment with substances if they wish, and the entire war on drugs was started as a way to disrupt minority communities.
Holy shit I never realized that he doesn't once use reasoning involving evidence when explaining why he doesn't go to the police in Buried. He just talks about his job, and him needing to be the man.
He doesn't have any real evidence, only circumstantial at best.
If he decided to divulge what he knew, then he would probably lose his job because not only has he spent too many resources on the case, he'd also look like a fool accusing his own brother in law.
Plus Walt would never see the inside of a jail cell without hard evidence. Thus, he makes Walt lead him to the money as well as the confession tape.
All of this is explained. Did you watch a different show?
@@billy413 Did you even bother to read what I said? No need to answer, I know you didn't. You just decided you had to be condescending and loud and wrong.
I said nothing about whether or not he has evidence or whether or not the DEA would believe him (although they definitely would, hence why they put the scene I'm referring to in there in the first place) but the point was that when Marie suggested this, Hank does not use any of the reasoning you (incorrectly) used here. Instead, like I already said and you didn't read, his reasoning revolves around his ego.
He COULD have maybe said that it wasn't enough evidence if that was true. But he doesn't. He talks instead about losing his job and how he needs to be the one to catch Walt, which is my point. He leans on pride, not evidence, which is the whole point of my comment.
@@stevenpeeckford5999 I agree with much of your point but he does say "If I bring in Walt, it'll be with facts, not suspicion" which although he didn't explicitly state was the reason for waiting he obviously knew it was a good one
Hank isn’t a good person, but the contrast between his and Marie’s relationship compared to Walt’s and Skyler’s always stuck out to me. The fact that Hank was so open and vulnerable with Marie who supported him regardless of what he did really made a sweet relationship. I know Skyler and Marie are different people but it makes me wonder how Skyler would’ve supported Walt if he was honest from the very beginning
Probably would have still fricked Ted tbh.
A man having anxiety is not comparable to being a drug lord in a cartel and killing innocent people lmao
@@feba33 Hank wasn't a good guy either. He was very arrogant, took pictures of himself with a dead body and joked about it, and was willing to exploit Jesse for his own wants. He also doesn't hesitate to just straight up barge in and beat him up without any given reason. He is a very unprofessional man who abuses his power, which true it isn't on Walt's level, he isn't exactly our hero either.
He was really prideful after his injury, not letting Marie help him. I never liked Hank. He just looked good when standing next to Heisenberg
@@stevezelaznik5872 Couldn't have been said better.
Obviously Hank is not a hero, he is a mineral!
you all have to stop with this toxic demasculization
@@namedasurname3968 what
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I like that you don't villainize Hank, you just point out the truth: he is a person, capable of both good and bad.
After watching the entire show, I was pretty shocked to find the entire fandom simping over Hank as a hero when I never felt like he was one. Thanks for going over this matter!
The only people who simp for hank also hate Mexicans just like hank
Exactly i genuinely dislike him how does people even like him well they will find out how bad of a guy he is when they get pulled over by a copy that looks like him beat up and dropped of in the desert without their car because he can do what he wants
Don’t fuck with breaking bad fans they haven’t watched the show🤣🤣🤣
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Can’t wait for Better Call Saul to finish airing so that we can maybe get some videos about those characters
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And if you want more you can fund his BCS video donation goal on Twitch
He already has, look up "Better Call Saul's Devastating Turning Point" it's about Chuck and Jimmy
Well… Howard and Nacho can get their videos
@@easschung9442 only one video tho. There are 1000 things in BCS you could make a video about .
But love his one BCS video!One of the best essays I've seen
It's a donation goal on his Twitter, give him a sub and you'll be able to hell towards maybe getting one.
Thank you. I've always thought he was a semi-narcissistic blowhard cop. Even at Walt's birthday party in episode one he had to take center stage and demean him.
He really does bully Walt early on, and even says something to the extent that he "isn't a man" in episode one.
Yup. Prick at his core.
‘That’s why they hire men!’
If it wasn’t for hank, Walter white would not have done the ride along in the first place.
@@obikenobiscoby9102 they dont hire men cops are mostly bullied kids and soft people that want power
A very human character.
Rest In Peace, ASAC Schrader.
*takes picture with a death body*
Rest in peace Ballsack Shredder
His name is Hank.
@@chrisari101 *then proceeds to go through a character changing arc*
@@lukehiorns2972 *and having ptsd from the funny mexican turtle man*
That scene you included of him saying that he isn't the man he thought he was is heartbreaking..
The moment Hank made that phone call to Marie that he caught Walt and told her he loves her was the moment I realized Hank wasn't gonna make it out alive
I call that celebrating too early 😢
I always have to skip the scenes where he's so cruel to Marie, they're awful and make me hate him.
Her face always breaks my heart.
Yeahhhh that is definitely not his finest stretch.
I think it was because of his depression he does apologise afterwards
He’s mad that he’s crippled
To me it just shows how incredibly insecure he is with ego at the forefront, and unfortunately it's a realistic portrayal of many men who feel like they can't show any "weakness". Such a well written character, flaws and all
His mineral collection are the true heroes
You mean rocks?
Hank is certainly not a hero. Especially after Walts death roughly seven years after he would later sell the crystal blue meth to some kids in minecraft!!!
Rough times for him he did it for the family ok.
Quackity 😬
Also just remembered that Hank is the REASON Marie relapsed and started shoplifting again, because he was psychologically abusing her.
you all have to stop with this toxic demasculization
@@namedasurname3968 bro get a hobby
@@punkitt dude, you live for hollywood celebrities, you have no room for talking.
oh boy
Regardless of whether he is a “true” hero or not, the sentiment he shared about not being the man he thought he was is something we have all felt before. This show has some amazing characters
I think the speech Mike gave to Walt before he gets shot applies very well to what happened to Hank, wanting to be the man and sustaining your pride and ego put him and everyone else in a bad spot, and then led to his downfall like Walt.
this is why I never really sympathized with Hank's PTSD over Tortuga. just a few episodes prior he was laughing at Gonzo being dismembered at a parking garage! the fact he got traumatized by a DEA member getting dismembered just felt like plain karma.
It's probably because it wasn't because the dea member was someone close but instead it was the fact it showed that he himself as a dea member is vulnerable.
Hank like the rest of the DEA tends to dehumanize criminals like they are some sort of monsters. Like how they gifted him Tucos grill and he had it on his desk like a trophy. But him throwing it into the water showed a slight bit of growth as he seemed disillusioned with his beliefs about what was “cool” and all that. By the end he probably wasn’t the guy to be posing with dead bodies like they were animals. I sympathized with his PTSD bc I think it took some direct personal experience to make things “real” for him. It sucks to see anybody experience anything horrible like PTSD, even if they aren’t a hero. Though he was still very flawed at the end, he grew morally at least a little bit. Definitely still not a hero by any means. He was ready to sacrifice Jesse for the sake of his own ego
It wasn’t Tortuga it was the lingering effects of killing Tuco. He came close to death and took another mans life, this sticks with him. He then gets a promotion for killing Tuco which gives him significant change in his life. Then he nearly dies again days later with the Tortuga incident. He could find humour in things that had already happened however he then goes through multiple life or death situations and the effects get to him. He then grows as a person.
@@ShaunTripp Agreed. Tuco was the DEA's big fish in the region, and everyone was aware of him. Then Hank just strolls along, thinking he's homing in on 'Pinkman', and suddenly finds himself in a gunfight with Mr. Psycho himself, Tuco. Afterward, he has to play the happy tough guy receiving all the office recognition for taking Tuco out, but inside he was still shaking in his boots and nagged by guilt.
It really did not fit his character
I mean we all know Hank isn't perfect but we love what he does, we love his jokes and we love that he tries to fight crime as he loves doing so and he's good at it just like Walter is good at being a methlord 2 parallels and it's great to see even though Hank isn't perfect he tries his best and still sticks to his morals unlike his co-workers laughing at the head on the tortoise scene
the question isn't about whether he's perfect, it's about whether or not he's a hero like some say he is. And he isn't. And I for one don't like his jokes, especially the racist ones
Of course, like I said, he’s admirable in quite a few ways. He’s just not a fictional hero.
@@easschung9442 eh I just don't think a few lame/corny jokes diminish all the good that he did throughout the show
Although it's been awhile since I've watched the show so I don't actually remember what jokes you're referring to honestly
@@joeclarke7982 They don't, but they were more offensive than you label them as and it was far more than that that diminished his heroism. Like his rage, brutality, violence and how awful he was to Marie, and his motives as well.
@@joeclarke7982 I did not say that the jokes diminish his heroism. I said that they're bad and I don't like them.
Chuck is the same kind of person as Hank.
Both people who are at the top of the legal establishment they worked for, getting generally praised by people in their field of work as the “heroes”. But with these environment, it bred them into ego-driven narcissists who considered anyone who lost their ways or not as legal as them as “degenerate subhuman”. They don’t believe in a concept of redemption. They only think that if someone lost their way, that person will never improve themselves (yet they always beg for other people to believe in them that they can improve, pure hypocrites). Chuck’s treatment of Jimmy throughout the show is the same way Hank treated Jesse.
- Chuck saw Jimmy as an irredeemable degenerate lowlife scumbag who got things his way easily without having to “work hard” like him. For example, passing a bar exam by learning from American Samoa online class is something unforgivable for him. However, he chose to ignore that Jimmy pursued this way in the first place because he never got any support from Chuck. No scholarship for UNM like those of Howard and Kim, so he had to grind his way to success. Chuck only cared about what he can “gain” from Jimmy and what Jimmy “took” away from him. That’s why he hated Jimmy so much in season 3 without ever looking himself in the mirror that he took advantage of Jimmy’s love for him by tricking Jimmy into talking about the numbers in order to ruin Jimmy later on. Chuck never saw his own action as morally wrong because as long as it’s “legal” then it’s right.
- Hank treated people he considered “scumbags” terribly. Just look at how he brought Walter Jr. to the motel to humiliate Wendy, without considering that Wendy didn’t have that much choice and she had to do it for her family. This is a thing that Jesse understands deeply while Hank will never does. He enjoyed intimidating Badger and Jesse because he felt that he’s morally superior than them. And once things went down like in season 3 when he received a fake phone call from Jimmy about Marie’s car crash (a neat reference to Kim’s car crash), he chose to blame Jesse immediately without any evidence and he punched Jesse so hard that Jesse knocked out because in his eyes, someone who can do something terrible like this must be a “lowlife” like Jesse. Hank always looked down on Jesse. Even when he wanted Jesse to help him arrest Walter, what he did was that he manipulated Jesse when Jesse was at his most vulnerable to make Jesse cooperate while revealing his true motive to Gomey behind Jesse’s back that he wanted Walter to kill Jesse on tape so that he can get an evidence to bust Walter. He took advantage of Jesse’s emotion big time to get what he wants and after he finally arrested Walter, he tossed Jesse aside right away. He’s okay at doing any morally reprehensible thing as long as it’s “legal”. The same tactic as Chuck.
What’s funny is that, the narcissists like Chuck and Hank love to underestimate another different breed of narcissists like Kim and Walter. That’s why Chuck saw Kim as an innocent “fine woman” who got ruined by Jimmy while in fact she was as guilty as Jimmy in exposing him about mental illness. Hank saw Walter as a wimp and a “pinnacle of good” who got ruined by Jesse. That’s why it took so long for him to find out Walter is Heisenberg albeit the clues were right there ever since season 1.
With these information, that’s why for me, the saddest death in Breaking Bad belongs to those of Andrea, not Hank. Because Hank might had a character development as a detective but he never had any development about how he treats people who lost their way. He still looked down on Jesse as an irredeemable scumbag from the beginning to the end. Meanwhile, Andrea was a girl who lost her way and tried so hard to make things right. She was sweet, a good mother and an innocent moral compass who is a final positive light in Jesse’s life. That’s why an innocent girl like her getting sent to Belize by Todd is extremely heartbreaking.
This was so beautifully put. Andrea’s death was so heartbreaking in part because of Jesse’s reaction. Although Jesse himself committed heinous acts, we understood that he was fundamentally a good person who protected those he loved. That’s why I think we felt so much reproach towards people like Todd and Walt.
you all have to stop with this toxic demasculization
I've never seen someone draw a parallel between Hank and Chuck this was, and it's amazing.
However, I think Hank and Chuck differ in one big way: Chuck perceived Jimmy as a low-life not because Jimmy was a criminal, but because he was envious of Jimmy being the more likeable brother, so it's a self-defense mechanism for him enforce this idea of superiority over Jimmy. Meanwhile Hank just plainly felt no empathy towards criminals period.
@@bratprica6383 It’s different but also similar. Chuck may have an additional essence of jealousy but both of Chuck and Hank’s condescension are based on their superiority complex which made them lack empathy towards those who lost their ways and don’t believe that people who made mistakes deserve redemption.
@@nont18411 It's interesting how this works, considering the fact that he is so willing to let go of his own wife's wrongdoings, when it comes to shoplifting. Albeit, this is not something nearly as major, but at the same time, he has a willing blindness when it comes to people that he has to oppose in his line of work, in comparison to people he is close to. Also. it's ironic how his whole story was a redemption arc, starting out as a loud-mouth macho man, and eventually becoming a successful police officer, with a pretty good family life. The problem is, the redemption arc failed. Instead of staying on a good path, he went back to his habits of putting people down and letting his ego drive him, eventually leading to his death. It's like the terrible events in his life were there to tell him "Let go of your ego and be a better man. You're not as tough as you thought." And he almost listened.
Hank may not fit the definition of a hero but he’s a respectable character. I love that scene where he figures out Walt is Heisenberg. His actor is great, the look he gives walt is priceless. It’s one of the most climactic scenes in the whole show. The buildup for it is so good and the payoff is incredible. In that scene hank goes from being kind of a normal good guy cop character to being a total badass. The only scene rivaling it for me is the finale and even then it’s hard for me to choose. He might just be my favorite character in the whole show. I thought he had good development. I find him to be a very charming character specifically because he’s a regular guy, trying to do the right thing. He doesn’t need to be morally perfect, just because nobody can be. And his unrealistic expectations for himself breaks him, and I think that makes him as admirable as a person can be in such a dark show. If he was a hero it’d cheapen the show and his character. Sometimes an Everyman can be the best hero.
Absolutely, he’s very respectable like I mentioned.
@Hunterkage Joestar Why? Random, unlucky/lucky things happen all the time.
@Hunterkage Joestar In real life sometimes we let small things like this slip
you all have to stop with this toxic demasculization
@Hunterkage Joestar He absolutely would do that. He got a little careless after months of comfort and being away from the business. A human being making a mistake, not matter how smart they are, after they've abandoned the thing that they have to be careful for, is not a problem. Not at all.
This is a really great video, I like the fact you try to perceive Hank as more of a human being not a hero. Amazing that a show made characters that were such people that the audience felt the need to give them genre conventions.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed!
Heroism isn't a quality of a person that exists separate from the action. Is just doing a heroic act. There are no heroes, just people behaving heroically by doing the right thing when everyone else wouldn't.
He also took out one of the hitman Mexican twins....and the way he faced death at gunpoint was bad ass.
Could you say the same about Walter being a villain?
No, there are definitely heroes. Especially when it comes to stories.
@@jimmyichigo7410 agreed. Heroism isn't just actions, it's the intent and character of an individual during the moments between them making the choice to take actions which we see as heroic
you all have to stop with this toxic demasculization
Not at all. Heroism is definitely a quality about a person when speaking in the fictional realm especially.
So in otherwords, Hank Schrader was written as a typical law enforcement officer.
Got it.
Hank took out half the Salamanca cartel almost singlehandedly, that definitely scores him some hero points in my book
No he didn’t😂😂😂😂😭😭😭 fuck you mean did you even match the show dumbass gus was the one who wiped out the Salamanca cartel how slow are you
Using someone to be sacrifice and baited to be killed by Walt while on tape and standing there doing nothing. Yeah that’s some hero all right.
He shot 3 crazy killers.
But the cartel fell by the hands of Gus & Mike.
Thank you! I feel this really was needed to be said. I never saw Hank as a hero and did not understand at all when people said he was. He can be a good man but also very selfish. To be honest there is no “hero” in this show. They’re all very flawed.
you all have to stop with this toxic demasculization
@@namedasurname3968 you have to stop repeating yourself.
@@ReddyCat1976 you've to stop raving about toxic masculinity, soy boy.
@@ReddyCat1976 you have to stop repeating yourself.
@@jakecastro3485 you have to stop with this toxic demasculizatiom
I can never seem to stop comparing some elements of Breaking Bad to Death Note (YES I KNOW THEY ARE NOT THE SAME)... To me Hank's obsession to catch Heisenberg / Walter reminded me so much of L's obsession to catch Kira / Light, both heading towards such an egotistic point which led to both of their deaths.
nah, hank is more like kira.
L didn’t die because of that though.
@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 kira did.
Yeah they are indeed very similar, though I compare Hank more to Light's dad and L to Gus.
That's funny I was just telling a family member that walter and jessie had light yagami levels of luck in this series.
Romanticizing "heroism " is too out of touch with reality.
Flawed people can at times and lot of the time do heroic things.
I haven't in my entire life seem anything as heroic as normal people enduring and overcoming all different kinds of personal tragedies and day to day sufferings, with the type of attitude no fictional character can even come close to.
I met an elderly lady, who lost her only income source, very poor, who endure staged 4 cancer, while working, going to chemo alone on a bus, for anyone who has ever gotten chemo they know even the slightest movement feels like hell sometimes , and you are extremely weak and sensitive after it, not to mention the million related sufferings it brings on its own. This woman endure that and still does. Having beaten the odds she survived. Alone and in silence.
Some very "plain", normal people are unsung heroes. It's just their story never gets out.
Okay but as sympathetic as I feel for that woman, what did she even do that was heroic? What is the point of this analogy?
@@seemonuzumaki723
I meant heroic as in enduring and facing adversity with the right atittude but not as in saving someone else.
I'm not sure how old you are, but I want you to imagine how you would feel if somebody told you today you have cancer and on top of that stage 4?.. Just imagine it. One day you maybe will have to face this and I hope that you're unlike her are not old and poor.
Because even with all the money and support on earth is some tough shit to go through.
Its probably one of the hardest blows anyone can be dealt. And hard to deal with graciously and with courage.
she went to chemo by herself on a bus and alone . All while working, while she had stage 4 cancer with 0% of living. A lot of people would have just given up and not even go to treatment .
Ask a person you know who has gone through chemo and how extremely sick it makes you feel, every little movement feels unbearable, erything even the feeling of the clothes on our body feel painful . So to go back and forth from chemo alone and on a bus on top its no easy task.
Not to mention the emotional state one could have being, old, alone and poor and having to go to treatment. And having lost your only source of income etc.. .
All the whole maintaining a calm demeanor. Not complaining and not being bitter towards ppl around you.
To be bitter about that news I would understand from almost anyone and in those circumstances, but she chose to keep moving on positively and she did. A lot of people wouldn't have the mental fortitude to endure that.
She didn't save someone else but there is soemthin heroic about fsing adversity without letting it ruin your outlook on life and on how you treat others. This woman was very kind and sweet as far as I ever dealt with her.
@@seemonuzumaki723 She just kept moving forward
"Some very plain, normal people are unsung heroes"... well yeah. The show itself tells us. Good guys never get ink like the bad guys do, after all.
@@joshuaharris3039 Well... Don’t most people? We all have tragedies
I very much relate to Jesse in the scene where Hank physically attacks him for personal reasons, as someone who was attacked by police simply because I am a single person who was driving through a rural area alone at night and they decided to attack me because they never see action and I was dressed a little raunchy. I can also see racism and classism in his policing, it takes seeing Gale's notebook for him to see the possability of Heisenberg being white, and seeing Gus's fingerprints in Gale's appartment to suspect "Heisenberg" might not be just one person but rather a corporation run by men in suits with decorum when the idea of a corporate entity should've been obvious after "the blue stuff" (not specified whether it's Walt's or Gale's meth they're finding, some Gale flashbacks later indicate it could be some of his meth they found, cool little tidbit) showed up again after James Kilkelly's arrest. I never saw Hank as a hero but then again for me to see a cop as a hero they've got to be aggressively holding their colleagues accountable for things like excessive force, Hank is the cop that would need to be held accountable for going too far by colleagues. There definately is a good person in there for holding himself accountable for how he handled his emotions with Jesse when his colleagues didn't want him held accountable. But a hero wouldn't do something like attack a person over emotions like "how'd you get my wife's name". Breaking Bad is meant to be a critique of cop shows, by putting protagonists on both sides so you see the monsterous nature of police. Hank is an awesome character from a writing standpoint when you watch the show in that lense, but he's the furthest thing from a hero.
"To see the possibility that heisenberg was white"
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@@freddiesimmons1394 Unintended on my part but yes it works as a double meaning. Maybe intentional on Vince's part.
Jesse is more of hero tbh, hell even Skyler is. They at least seem to generally care about people, not just their closest relatives. Hank and Walt both had too much pride.
I disagree. I get your experience and I’m very sorry about what happened, but I think it has an influence on your decision on Hank. He probably wasn’t a “hero” and had many flaws, but I still see him as a generally good character. Him beating Jesse is the illegal thing to do, of course. That doesn’t make it pointless. Jesse knowing his wife’s name isn’t nothing. Imagine, Hank is coming after these drug dealers and they call him lying that his wife is in the hospital and calling her by her name. Now, why would the drug dealers need to know his wife’s name in the first place? Shows that they have been looking into him. It’s kind of perceived as a threat by him and probably should be seen that way.
@@lukaposeidon8490Exactly. He wasn’t being a cop in that scene, he was out for revenge.
There's also an interesting point of view on how Hank is definitely the traditionally masculine breadwinner in his marriage to Marie. She wears a royal purple for most of the show, but it's only after Hank's death that she loses that financial security and privilege, and is reduced to a plain white.
interesting as purple is suppose to represent vice while white is suppose to represent innocence
We need a lalo video, dude is an s tier villain
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@@Aleczandxr great as usual
Glad you enjoyed!
3:23 he was so focused and obsessed that he didn't even shave properly.
The director is a genius.
Nice analysis :)
I truly enjoy these breakdowns of different characters and overarching themes of this epic show... I wish I could erase my memories of it, and watch it all over again.
Great discussion. I've long felt that it was Hank's own hubris that did him in and contributed to the destruction of his extended family: he could have simply looked the other way and turned a blind eye to Walt's involvement; he could have recused himself from the investigation; he could have agreed to let Walt and Uncle Jack walk away in the desert. Instead, he refused to even beg for his life and died because of that.
Even if he wanted to walk away and look the other way it wasn't really an option at that point. After all, he was carrying out an investigation without authorization and after he'd been told to back off from it, and it ended with steve gomez getting killed. There is no walking away from explaining how that happened and that inevitably leads to him having to out walt and jack
@@JS-wp4gs Perhaps; my point is that Hank could have walked away at any point long before he and Gomez wound up (dead) in the desert.
If not begging to live is a bad way to die, then count me out. I will never beg for my life, there is a thing called dignity, which is more important than your life if you are a true character deserving of respect and admiration
@@intimpulliber7376 To me, personally, not begging for your life when you want to live is more pride than dignity. I consider dignity to have more to do with being good and respectful of others. Being willing to do what you believe to be the right thing, even if it costs you.
But there's nothing good or helpful about refusing to beg for your life. It's just something to satisfy your ego. If anything, if you have anyone who cares about you, anyone who would be hurt by your death, I'd consider it more dignified and admirable to beg than not to. Because you're setting aside your pride in order to have a chance, even if a small one, to live so that your loved ones don't have to grieve you.
But that's just my opinion, I respect yours.
Nah, begging would not have saved him. The Nazi crew was pure evil. Especially Todd. Glad he got killed
Hank is the Howard of BB. Just the Tragedy, how they both were good, close friends with the main characters, how they got mistreated and fooled for doing their thing, their depression and self-doubt, and the sad ending they endured.
I SO AGREE with you on this analysis! I always thought that Hank fell into the same trap that Walt had which was his pride and ego. And you pointed out the same with Gus. That I think is the main theme of Breaking Bad. It is a cautionary tale of how Pride and Ego can ruin us all if we don't keep it in check.
It's not that Hank was ever seen as a paragon of morality, it's that he starts off the show as a loud-mouthed, abrasive, jackass and over the course of the show is put through the hero's journey and made to humble himself, which he ultimately shows in his last words.
Eh, I beg to differ. I wouldn’t have said that if I hadn’t seen a ton of that sort of worship over the past decade.
@@Aleczandxr Haven't seen what you're referring to but in a show with such morally compromised characters, somebody needs to be seen as the figure of righteousness. Great video by the way, dig all your BrBa/BCS content.
@@tony_dogs The character seen as a figure of righteousness should NOT be a guy who makes sexist and racist jokes, mocks the dead, beats people to a pulp, screws up the chase for a drug lord because he needed to be a man, verbally and psychologically terrorizes his wife, intends for Jesse to die, etc.
@@tony_dogs If you ever watch death note (an anime that people believe breaking bad is inspired from) soichiro yagami is the exemplary character of righteousness, not hank
@@tony_dogs why necessarily?
Some people don't agree when some say that he gets better across the series. This is my rationale for anyone interested. His PTSD before beating up Jesse put him in a more sympathetic light because he was put in a difficult situation and had stopped making demeaning wisecracks and stuff. But then 3x07 happened and then yeah. But after he verbally abused Marie for being a caring wife (lol) he improved very steadily until he discovered who Heisenberg was. Very focused, the most mature he ever was. I think that's what people refer to when saying he get better.
They can't be referring to anything else really. That's the only way there can be an argument.
Hank didn’t tell the dea cause he took money from walt when he was in the hospital. It would have incriminated him and his family aside from the obsession to catch walt.
“it becomes personal” well it’s his brother in law
Still can't believe I'm reading comments where people somehow think a guy who was making sexist and racist jokes, mocking the dead, beating people to a pulp, screwing up the chase for a drug lord because he needed to be a man, verbally and psychologically terrorizing his wife, intending for Jesse to die, etc - is a hero.
THANK YOU
@@MikeSmith-ym9eq That's a huge reach.
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Yeah because some racist jokes deserve to be put alongside him beating people to near death and semi abusing his wife. I can understand not liking his crass humor or finding it in poor taste but to be that upset about it to the point you think it factors into his ability to be a hero is... depressing. Maybe the boomers are right when they say this generation is too soft for its own good
@@angelus823 Yeah bro my bad for not wanting my heroes to be racist
This video made me realize that Hank's obsession with Heisenberg is very similar to Captain Ahab's obsession with Moby Dick
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i feel like the blurriness of hanks morality is meant to mirror walt’s, it’s a perfect portrayal of how nothing in life is just black and white
Nice video bro! Wow! I never thought this far into it and I’m glad there is geniuses like you that do it for me. It was a fun watch!
THANK YOU! I thought I was the only one who felt this way. Thank you for this. 🙏
Excellent and Outstanding;Hank and Mike are Compelling.
I appreciate the time it takes you to make these videos. Especially when looking for the clips that you use throughout your videos.
Thank you!
Started watching this series after your "Fly" video. I don't usually watch live action but this series is incredible.
I love the background music in this video....it's so calming!
AWESOME analysis, as always. Got back into wanting to do video essays focusing in deep dives on characters and you are my main inspiration. Your choice of words, presentation and effort combines into some of the very best CZcams has to offer. Thanks for the content man
My pleasure, glad you enjoyed!
What I love about breaking bad is that no character is completely good or completely bad
I can't remember a single bad character aspect about 'Flynn' Walter Jr.
Bro only wanted a tasty breakfast, a nice car, and his father to not die of cancer!
Missed the chance to say "many hanks for watching" at the end there
God damn it
Dean Norris is amazing, the way he whispers in incredulity at the end of 5x09 is insane.
I totally agree, he is actually just a regular guy. What I think makes him interesting though is his arc throughout the story where he becomes more mature, level headed, and righteous.
you all have to stop with this toxic demasculization
@@namedasurname3968 m8 what r u talking abt
@@KanderUdon Just saying.
@@namedasurname3968 when was I talking abt his masculinity I just said that his character arc was good
Breaking bad and everything in it's universe is amazing I don't understand how they made such masterpieces
Really great video with such a good perspective of the Character
Thank you!
omg that Final Fantasy VI track in the background is so well used
Hank's behavior from the start was questionable to me - at Walt's 50th birthday party, macho Hank just has to steal the limelight by showing the DVD of his drug bust and that pile of money which captures Walt's imagination and leads him into temptation - I can't believe the DEA would allow a civilian/relative to accompany agents on police work. Further, Hank makes his usual disparaging remarks about Walt in front of party guests by inviting him to ride along on a drug bust to liven up his dull high school teacher life. Always with the putdowns! Hank's smart mouth was not amusing nor helpful - his putdowns of colleagues and blowhard treatment of Walt Jr. grated on me throughout the series. I did enjoy his acting abilities and his shootout with the two brothers - but the character Hank, let's face it, was a major factor in creating the monster that was Heisenburg.
Episode one Hank is so.. ugh. And that's just him being generally obnoxious, before he does his worst.
"He's a hero!" *beats the absolute dogshit out of Jesse*
To be fair. He did have a somewhat of a good reason to do it.
@@nothin12r88 Bizarre and concerning thing to say.
@@easschung9442 How? Hank knew that Jesse had something to do with the phone call that made it seem like his wife was possibly going to die. All for it to be fake and it was to get Jesse and Walt out of the trash park.
@@blaubeer8039 Let me put it in better words. He overreacted thats a fact. But with all the rage and adrenaline in him its is somewhat understandable. ( thats only my opinion)
@@nothin12r88 He had absolutely no right as a law enforcement officer to break into his house and brutalize him. He effectively violated the fourth amendment and purposefully went out of his way to attack someone when it easily could've been avoided.
This was such a great dissection of Hank
When I recognized the Final Fantasy IX music, I had to leave you kudos man!
I fucking love these
I like that in breaking bad there are no heros hank is a insensitive cop at best and a out of control vigilante at worst everyone likes to say jesse was manipulated by Walt which is true to some extent but jesse is a grown man who don't forget got Jane to break her sober streak
I love that you use FF tracks for the background music.
Well made. Good points, good execution.
The antagonization of skylar and gratification of Hank never made sense tho me
Aleczandxr, we NEED a video on Howard. We need this ASAP, good dissection of Hank's character again btw!
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@@Aleczandxr awesome! Will tune in! :)
Btw, would you be interested in doing a vid on the 'bottle' scene from Over? It's played off as another badass moment, when it actually reveals so much about Walt's masculine insecurities and frustration at the lack of power following his cancer remission news
Edit: Nevermind, I saw that you don't take comment suggestions. My mistake
That's one of the things that makes me love that show so much, neither of the characters are either a hero or a villain, they're all people with flaws and good traits combined. It's truely wonderfull
Hank did make the point that the second he brought this case to the DEA he would be a civilian because it took him too long to notice that it was his own brother. Honestly he should have just taken the L and accepted that, because he should have noticed earlier, he was so close with the clues just couldn’t put it together
I can't recall even one occasion of Hank truly asking himself _why_ people do meth. It seems like he bought into the very simplistic mindset of "meth bad, NO EXCUSES!" like so many real-life LEOs.
In other words he swore an oath to protect all but he "othered" those who didn't or couldn't share his worldview and privilege.
I worked in a drug-ridden neighborhoid for over a decade. I never once met a person whose ambition was to grow up to be a heroin or crack or meth addict. Most ended up there because of being dealt crappy hands in the game of life.
Hank would have smiled and posed for selfies with them as he added to their ruin.
He and Walt have a conversation about the legality of drugs and Walt argues that whether something is legal or not seems arbitrary. Hank counters that plenty of people he’s arrested say the same thing but ultimately that he views drugs are harmful.
Ultimately it’s not his responsibility or place to care about the why. He’s the one who’s meant to stop the drugs being made, sold and used. He does seem to view criminals with contempt it would seem to me that view is justified by him as he has seen the horrors that the Mexican Cartels have done (Tortuga for example). To him drug users are victims but they also help monsters stay in power and so he’ll arrest and lock up anyone involved in the trade. If they can offer him info/help then perhaps they get some leniency.
Getting off drugs is possible.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Life is filled with so many complexities.
Commenting to share this more because I’ve thought this since I first watched the show and watched lots of people in the fandom praise him as a hero
It's funny because when I started watching Breaking Bad, I remember thinking to myself about Hank 'Wow, what a smug arsehole! And he's one of the fan favourites?It's not like my opinion will change by the end'.
And it did! He was still a smug arsehole, but by allowing us to see his vulnerabilities, we were able to root for him (most of the time. His relationship with Marie in season 4 was pretty crap).
I def agree though that Hank isn't a 'hero' in Breaking Bad. People seem to put him on that pedestal due to his attitude and how his opponents are always worse than him.
By the time Ozymandias, I still didn't think Hank was a hero. He was funny and sympathetic, but at the end of the day he was still a character who'd done some pretty messed up stuff on the show, just to a lesser degree than the other characters.
Loved the Final Fantasy VI music in the background!
He was my favourite character done to perfection.
To be fair hanks the closest thing we have to a hero in that story next to Gomey
A hero is more like Jack Shepherd of Lost. I see Hank and Walt more as normal people changed by different situations.
But, Hank taking down the cousins was badass. And when Hank showed to the DEA that Fring's fingerprints was in Gale's house, I clapped for him literally.
The greatness of Breaking Bad has to do with characters like Jesse, Hank, and Walt being at each other like in the final season, but understand with empathy each person's motivations as they misunderstand each other. Especially Walt and Jesse being on different pages in the final episodes of season five.
Love the final fantasy music in the background
Great video LOVE THE FINAL FANTASY!!!!
God damn, I love being a Chad Aleczandxr watcher
I would love a spinoff show that is just the events of Breaking Bad but retold through Hank's perspective.