Why Trump “can't be ripped away” from his followers: Heather Cox Richardson | Salon Talks

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  • čas přidán 17. 06. 2024
  • Historian Heather Cox Richardson tells Salon about her book “Democracy Awakening: Notes on the State of America.” The “Letters from an American” writer explains how Republicans from Nixon to Trump have launched an attack on democracy and shares what Americans can do about it. Cox Richardson reflects on why she is still optimistic and reveals why she is “bored” by Trump now.
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  • @davewitter6565
    @davewitter6565 Před 7 měsíci +263

    If I taught history I would have my students watch this posting. The two side are not equal. The media needs to call out the BS and call liars liars. The Republicans who enabled choose a cult of personality over their oath to Constitution. Vote them out in 2024.

    • @barbaras631
      @barbaras631 Před 7 měsíci +1

      The right-wing media like Fox are also liars.

    • @renzo6490
      @renzo6490 Před 7 měsíci +16

      The role of the media,as they see it, is only partly to report the news.
      It is also to make MONEY!!

    • @Kodiak1293
      @Kodiak1293 Před 7 měsíci +23

      @renzo6490 sadly the making money is more important than being truthful when it comes to politics.

    • @barbaras631
      @barbaras631 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@Kodiak1293 let's just say Republicans have a bad relationship with the truth.

    • @Spiral.Dynamics
      @Spiral.Dynamics Před 7 měsíci

      That’s why Maga is trying to take over the schools.

  • @bikebudha01
    @bikebudha01 Před 7 měsíci +122

    This woman needs to be on cnn, msnbc, abc, and cbs 24/7

    • @nancyross5257
      @nancyross5257 Před 7 měsíci +18

      And Fox

    • @RorkesDriftVC
      @RorkesDriftVC Před 7 měsíci +15

      She needs to be on Fox, Newsmax, and OAN.

    • @keithwinget6521
      @keithwinget6521 Před 6 měsíci +6

      One of the ways to get people to change those viewing habits is to show them what they are missing, and it would certainly be better if we could entice more people to view programs like these as an alternative to the more traditional and sensationalist/ratings-driven sources.

    • @cynthiablake6208
      @cynthiablake6208 Před 6 měsíci +5

      She's getting close with her book tour. Everyone should subscribe to her daily letters. They are a treasure!

    • @markg.7865
      @markg.7865 Před 6 měsíci +5

      ​@@RorkesDriftVCThose networks prefer people like Alex Jones and Larry the Cable Guy.

  • @joanneformisano5811
    @joanneformisano5811 Před 7 měsíci +101

    Professor Richardson is a national treasure. She is what this country needs. Love her. 💙✌🏼

    • @alanking6240
      @alanking6240 Před 7 měsíci +2

      Professor Richardson is a national embarrassment.

    • @ennediend2865
      @ennediend2865 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​​​@@alanking6240
      Trump is the national embarrassment !
      Deployed as a Russian weapon. They 'll try to do it again : bring him to WH.

    • @april5666
      @april5666 Před 6 měsíci +7

      @@alanking6240I imagine it seems that way to the followers of the current GOP, who are incapable of being shamed. For regular folks she is a breath of sane, fresh air. :)

    • @alanking6240
      @alanking6240 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@april5666 Richardson only uses facts that support her narrative, not the truth. Check out her interviews and fact check it you will find I am right.

    • @alanking6240
      @alanking6240 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@april5666 Why don't you check her facts. That is what I did. She spreads pure propaganda.

  • @secretariatgirl4249
    @secretariatgirl4249 Před 7 měsíci +254

    Outstanding discussion! The media by playing "fair" actually is creating a bias in this situation which enables falsehoods.

    • @fallen4life080
      @fallen4life080 Před 7 měsíci +18

      This is exactly why I stopped being a centrist in graduate school. I thought centrism, and looking at both sides of the story, was a way to avoid bias. But I realize now that trying to be centrist essentially makes you biased against both sides; sometimes one side is actually right more often. This is why I became a progressive

    • @danielhutchinson6604
      @danielhutchinson6604 Před 6 měsíci

      @@fallen4life080 She does have a point about "falsehoods" we all can be duped into some Carnival Barkers Booth.....
      The Progressives of 2016 were bought out by The Hillary Victory Committee and Robert Mercars Marketing program.
      Mercer took Obama's algorithm added steroids, and proved he could get any Idiot elected to any Office, for a price.
      The Mercer Marketing group, who appear to include Rebekah, who was a Trump Transition Team member,
      still appears to benefit fro her associations with the fine Mormon Senator Mitt's Niece being Chair of GOP fundraising.
      Mercers 2020 Absence sealed his Appointment, as Trump lost without that support. to Big Kahuna of Conservative Electoral Industry Marketing Poobahs.
      Why do You suppose He quit His Day Job?
      Telling tales out of school does tend to being profitable.....

    • @DanielJett
      @DanielJett Před 6 měsíci

      @@fallen4life080 “…sometimes one side is actually right more often…”
      You apparently did not receive your graduate degree in English.

    • @fallen4life080
      @fallen4life080 Před 6 měsíci +8

      @@DanielJett My degree requires an insane amount of English, statistics, and communication skills in order to publish, peer review, and properly communicate science. This isn't an academic seminar on a topic. It's just CZcams, buddy.

    • @fallen4life080
      @fallen4life080 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@DanielJett Not to mention, the English still makes sense if you actually bothered to know English YOURSELF. I.e If your partner goes through a period of 6 months where she makes better points than you much more often and the rest of the year you have the upper hand more often, then. Obviously she's "right more often" only "sometimes".

  • @johnnyleopard2668
    @johnnyleopard2668 Před 7 měsíci +133

    This woman is brilliantly intelligent. These are the kinda people it's important to surround yourself with. They inspire critical thinking, and they always leave you feeling smarter than you were ❤
    Fantastic conversation. Thank you

    • @marshcreek4355
      @marshcreek4355 Před 6 měsíci

      One key question Dean missed and is a critical part of the danger we're in is a corrupted and billionaire dark money funded Supreme Court. I would have loved to see how Dr. Richardson would have addressed that as part of her hopeful narrative. It was perfectly corrupted by the Federalist Society, Leonard Leo, and Mitch McConnell to drive outcomes from a minority perspective which they could not be achieve through the normal electoral process. A corrupted judiciary is a fundamental feature of authoritarianism.

    • @danielhutchinson6604
      @danielhutchinson6604 Před 6 měsíci

      I notice that I feel smarter after checking her facts.
      No One is perfect, except You and Me, .......Right?

    • @janetownley
      @janetownley Před 6 měsíci +2

      She almost has been, lately 😊

    • @karenrose3210
      @karenrose3210 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Brilliantly intelligent???😂😂😂😂

  • @mikemalloy1681
    @mikemalloy1681 Před 7 měsíci +121

    We can make this MAGA problem go away in 2024, if good people who are concerned citizens just vote.

    • @Kodiak1293
      @Kodiak1293 Před 7 měsíci

      Maga is not your problem, believing it is though, could be. No more than the democrats are magas problem. The far leftist and far right are both problems of this country. Which neither dems or magas are part of for the most part

    • @rickglorie
      @rickglorie Před 7 měsíci

      How's the koolaid? @@Kodiak1293

    • @A2forty
      @A2forty Před 7 měsíci

      Not just vote but continually show a light on the horrors that the GOP is. They are authoritarian, theocratic, misogynistic, racist and elitist. Showing their dog whistles and making people see the what the GOP is actually doing. Gerrymandering, what's going on in Ohio, the unite the right, attacking public education

    • @blafonovision4342
      @blafonovision4342 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Conservatism will never go away.

    • @reneenyberg4832
      @reneenyberg4832 Před 7 měsíci +13

      @@blafonovision4342. MAGA isn’t traditional conservatism.

  • @latashahunt6335
    @latashahunt6335 Před 7 měsíci +122

    She's right!! When she says, "I think there are more people paying attention now". I'm certainly paying way more attention than I was before I saw conflicting stories in the 2020 election.

    • @RorkesDriftVC
      @RorkesDriftVC Před 7 měsíci +17

      My daughter was with the other officers who saved our democracy on January 6th. I always thank Capitol and DC police. They were true heroes.

    • @danielhutchinson6604
      @danielhutchinson6604 Před 6 měsíci +2

      How many bother to mention the Mercers involvement in Trump, during the 2016 Campaign?
      Or their absence in 2020?
      That does appear to insure Robert Mercer a better income than the Hedge Fund Business.
      Proving that He could get any idiot elected to any Office,
      should make the Guy quite a few Billion Bucks.

    • @janetownley
      @janetownley Před 6 měsíci +2

      Hm, I’ve been paying massive attention since Trump came down the escalator in 2015

    • @danielhutchinson6604
      @danielhutchinson6604 Před 6 měsíci

      @@JS-ki5yq Rand Paul introduced a issue that needs to debate the actual ability to pay for the distribution of Troops to well over 700 locations around the Globe.
      The ability to Fund Conflicts as the ability to borrow money that supports an Empire across the Planet, seems to be draining the US Treasury, just as it did when the USA used Gold Standard Currency in 1967.
      The Debate in the Senate should be revealing.

    • @robbiedemoss3224
      @robbiedemoss3224 Před 6 měsíci

      Me too

  • @ChildPerson
    @ChildPerson Před 7 měsíci +89

    This week I learned about the Bible Study classes being offered in public schools during school hours. Before I could get over the sick feeling in the pit of my stomach, I saw the announcement that the classes are now available in our local school system. Of all the things that frighten me these days, this is near the top.

    • @matt3024
      @matt3024 Před 7 měsíci +8

      As long as it remains voluntary and the choice is that of THE CHILD then what's wrong with it? No matter what we think of any individual choice-as long as it's not one that's damaging- then it should be available to those who wish to explore it
      Not a churchgoer or Bible reader myself but nor do I believe it should be hidden or buried any more than literature, science
      or history. It's called freedom .

    • @oldpossum57
      @oldpossum57 Před 7 měsíci

      Because the Bible classes teach a particular religion, and your constitution was wisely and necessarily founded on the idea that there would be no establishment of religion, no state religion, in America. In Britain, the Head of State is the Head of the Anglican Church, and historically the state punished, fined, disenfranchised other religions. The public schools are created by the state. Religions have no place there.
      The white evangelicals have told you that they want to establish a Christian nation. As Richardson says here, Believe them when they tell you that is what they are going to do. Boebert, MTG, the new speaker are up front about taking rights away from gays, from women, from minorities. @@matt3024

    • @louiselincoln6557
      @louiselincoln6557 Před 7 měsíci +25

      It makes me really nervous too. The problem is that having Bible Study classes in school is another way to divide people. Will they also Koran studies as well? Old Testament or New Testament? We have to put ourselves in the children's shoes and think about who will be left out. Anything that is offered as "special" or extra, that only caters to certain groups, will do more damage than good.

    • @c.a.savage5689
      @c.a.savage5689 Před 7 měsíci +41

      ​@@matt3024 No one is burying the Bible.
      And it is Highly Unlikely that any child (grade school or high school age) would willingly choose Bible Study classes. Such classes are not studying or presenting the Bible from a literary point of view. They are proselytizing. Holding forth the written word of God as Truth. This is entirely unconstitutional. A clear violation of the separation of Church and State. Let them teach a History of World Religions. Children might actually learn something about other cultures, other people's beliefs.

    • @loomspace
      @loomspace Před 7 měsíci +27

      ​@@matt3024The problem is that faith based thinking can be used to justify ANYTHING.

  • @pauladufour7594
    @pauladufour7594 Před 7 měsíci +26

    9:53 "...once you have started to poison your own soul by buying into someone who is abusing others, you can't turn away from that without admitting you're the one who is the problem."

    • @Theomite
      @Theomite Před 6 měsíci

      Glad I never trusted the free kool-aid.

  • @jeanfitzsimmons7442
    @jeanfitzsimmons7442 Před 7 měsíci +78

    As an 80 year old with a lifelong interest in both politics and history, i thank you from the bottom of my heart. It sometimes feels like i am alone in trying to keep the pieces of history alive in front of the youthful folks who did not live through this and do not even try to see how this all came together and made the Greed/Confederacy a reality, evolving, as un modified Republics are destined to evolve, into dictatorships.
    The whole of what the Founders sold us is Democracy using a modified Republic framework. It was a balance of democratic republic , but with modifications far too fragile to protect that human equality necessary for this nation to live up to its greatest potential. We began with wonderful realities, perfect ethics, but with a compromise with the wealthy and white supremacy that must end if we are to survive as a nation. This nation has the right way, we simply have to live up to what we said were our goals: all human beings have certain inalienable rights and the right to make private decisions for our own lives, and the government has to go back to its stated purpose, Government that promotes the General Welfare of the People, and a nation that behaves ethically in the world.

    • @user-cv3gb6lg5j
      @user-cv3gb6lg5j Před 7 měsíci +9

      Great thoughts, Neighbor! I'm a Canadian watching this horror show from my new home of Japan. ,,,and I fear for my family's future if Donald T-rump and the Maga Republicans get their way. I thank you very kindly for your sober insights. Peace!

    • @irenafarm
      @irenafarm Před 7 měsíci +7

      You aren’t alone 💙

    • @YouTubeUpdatesAreRuiningIt
      @YouTubeUpdatesAreRuiningIt Před 7 měsíci +6

      well said. thanks for sharing

    • @courtneybrubaker9738
      @courtneybrubaker9738 Před 6 měsíci

      The problem is the Constitution, written my white slave owners who were not set free or sold, they left black people and women out of the Constitution. It was not meant all were created equal. This is the problem.

  • @SilverCottage
    @SilverCottage Před 7 měsíci +19

    Heather is a prominent historian and fascinating to hear

  • @LeslieLarsen
    @LeslieLarsen Před 7 měsíci +28

    Excellent interview!! Thank you both so much! DEMOCRACY AWAKENING is a must read for every voter in USA.

  • @gjipstra1
    @gjipstra1 Před 7 měsíci +16

    Thank you Heather Cox Richardson.

  • @annmahoneyleslie1894
    @annmahoneyleslie1894 Před 7 měsíci +41

    Yes! When Gen. Milley came out with that, he was truly serious. I am optimistic…thank you Heather! You are brilliant and truly a” Great thinker.” I so appreciate you.
    AALeslie, Florida (the State with a moat around it) 🤦‍♀️

  • @rosemarycrane5137
    @rosemarycrane5137 Před 7 měsíci +91

    The media is looking at this from a purely financial perspective. Trump is good for ratings which equals financial benefits for their bottom line. Thank you, Mrs. Richardson. My family and I discuss this dire situation daily.

    • @asbeautifulasasunset
      @asbeautifulasasunset Před 7 měsíci +6

      Agree with you about the corporate media. I'm reading the second of three books that David Cay Johnston, investigative journalist, has written about Donald Trump beginning with his first in 2016. Johnston has known Trump since 1988. The three books are: The Making of Donald Trump, It's Even Worse than you Think, and The Big Cheat. If more people knew about the facts written about in these books, it might help sway from some voters we know who are not totally impervious to information they don't already possess.

    • @rosemarycrane5137
      @rosemarycrane5137 Před 7 měsíci

      @@asbeautifulasasunset I have read two of his books@asbeautilasasunset. I also read newer articles Clay Johnston has written. Trump is a national security threat. I feel doubtful that knowing more about Trump would sway some voters, maybe a few independents perhaps? Certainly his cult can not be pursuaded at this point. Have you read Agenda 2025? It is the Trump agenda should he win. Not pretty. Trump will do everything within his power to outright steal the next election and there is talk that he will direct the military to spread out across the country to address publics outrage. Now let me say this, since 2015 I have predicted everything Trump has done. He now has a cadre of synophants at his disposal...they have perfected the steal.

    • @leperpens
      @leperpens Před 7 měsíci +12

      You are so right! In the 70s, this little movie called Network was released, and news reporters and companies laughed it off, saying it was preposterous. Then, a few years later, international corporations bought the companies that produced the nightly news at ABC, CBS & NBC. And their news departments were told they have to start turning a profit (instead of operating at a loss as part of the bargain to gain access to public airwaves).
      This has had a bigger cumulative effect on Americans than fast food. Which is saying something.

    • @karllieck9064
      @karllieck9064 Před 7 měsíci

      The media is the enemy of the people. They are painting the narrative thus playing with people's lives.

    • @peterzang
      @peterzang Před 7 měsíci +17

      When Biden does something good and important it never gets mentioned. Things working out is not sexy

  • @chasdawes7541
    @chasdawes7541 Před 7 měsíci +16

    Dr. Heather Cox Richardson is a national treasure. We are fortunate to have a Smarty McSmartypants who uses their power for education of the U.S.

  • @user-lb4dw2sk1j
    @user-lb4dw2sk1j Před 7 měsíci +21

    Great interview…she is a national treasure!

  • @leeproulx7412
    @leeproulx7412 Před 7 měsíci +22

    Truly excellent conversation. Great job Salon. She is absolutely right about asking what people around, need to feel secure and protected. People need affordable food, clean water, living wages, lower fuel prices to get to where they need to go, fair pricing in the marketplace, affordable housing, safe police forces, equal treatment under the law.

    • @acustomer7216
      @acustomer7216 Před 6 měsíci

      @leeproulx7412 and affordable health care

    • @Stacey19962
      @Stacey19962 Před 5 měsíci

      So where is it. I am telling you both sides are bullshit and greedy.

  • @TheGbp01
    @TheGbp01 Před 7 měsíci +19

    When someone doesn't think they will actually come for Social Security point to Roe v Wade

    • @sharonwalberg5438
      @sharonwalberg5438 Před 7 měsíci

      They want to come after Snap too .Johnson , the new Speaker of the House. It proves the Maga GOP don't care about Americans and want to take away all our rights and all the programs we rely on. More homeless and hungry Americans will be the result with a Lunatic wanna be Dictator. ! Trump for prison! Vote all these traitors out of office!

    • @user-oo8lj3iy5s
      @user-oo8lj3iy5s Před 6 měsíci

      Eliminating birth control (unless a man approves) is coming now.

  • @lucyflanagan3628
    @lucyflanagan3628 Před 7 měsíci +60

    To hate is to feel superior while before you felt inferior. Is the thing motivating MAGA folks, motivating Trump. It’s delusional of course.

    • @raghailligh1080
      @raghailligh1080 Před 7 měsíci

      The whole magascum cult is based on a "you think your (sic) smarter than me?" tirade, misspelling included.

    • @IExpectedBSJustNotThisMuchBS
      @IExpectedBSJustNotThisMuchBS Před 7 měsíci +12

      Truly. While the support for Trump is alarming, upsetting, I don’t hate fellow Americans. I want everyone to have opportunity, health care, dignity, and not to die in poverty. I want people to have the chance to thrive. They don’t have to agree with me for me to want good thins in their lives.

    • @davidtrindle6473
      @davidtrindle6473 Před 7 měsíci +1

      That’s a good point. Trumpers no longer have to feel uneducated, gullible, and backward.
      By using FOX as they’re encyclopedia of “alternate facts, they can now hold up their side of the debate. Their first chance not to feel stupid.

    • @johnstallings4049
      @johnstallings4049 Před 7 měsíci +4

      I am so inspired by your statement that ​Im going to start saving up to be poor now. ❄️🌎❄️❣️😶👌❄️

    • @johnstallings4049
      @johnstallings4049 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@thomascanfield9165 They're even fighting a war on WOKE with the US Military now! ❄️🌎❄️

  • @virginiashroyer2279
    @virginiashroyer2279 Před 7 měsíci +29

    Great show! Mrs. Richardson does a fantastic job as usual!

  • @renzo6490
    @renzo6490 Před 7 měsíci +14

    The proper role of government in a democracy is to step in to protect the public whenever any sector, political or economic becomes too strong and seeks to dominate or exploit the people.

  • @MelioraCogito
    @MelioraCogito Před 7 měsíci +14

    _“Let not anyone pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.”_ -John Stuart Mill (1867)
    Voting in America is like driving a car: if you want to go _forward,_ select “D”; if you want to go _backward,_ select “R”. You won't get to any destination, staying in neutral.

  • @kathleenborsch1312
    @kathleenborsch1312 Před 7 měsíci +40

    Thank you for giving me hope, Ms. Richardson. I've learned a LOT & plan to read your book.
    After listening to this interview, I'd like to recommend Sinclair Lewis' 1935 novel "It Can't Happen Here", an account of how fascism could suddenly arise in America. Very chilling to read alongside the daily news!

    • @jeannerogers7085
      @jeannerogers7085 Před 7 měsíci +5

      I am pretty sure that is Dr. Richardson.

    • @kathleenborsch1312
      @kathleenborsch1312 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@jeannerogers7085 Thank you for the correction.

    • @careyculbert5071
      @careyculbert5071 Před 7 měsíci +2

      I read it when Voldemort was elected - and then watched it frighteningly unfold. It's a consistent reference.

    • @stregalilith
      @stregalilith Před 7 měsíci

      YES! It CAN happen here and that book should be mandatory reading in every high school to prepare citizens and warn them when the next Trump comes along from the ranks of the present Trumpites and Trumpettes in Trump World. It's not just him, it's the idea, the beliefs, the blindness to the authoritarian dog whistles and calls to action of that side of the populace. He is preparing them to accept the next dictator with his racism, misogyny and power driven madness.

  • @tsuritsa3105
    @tsuritsa3105 Před 7 měsíci +17

    "Things fall apart/the center cannot hold
    Mere anarchy is loosed on the world/ the blood-dimmed tide is loosed and everywhere
    the ceremony of innocence is drowned/
    the best lack all conviction, while the worst/ are full of passionate intensity"
    - Yeats
    One of the risks of the moment we are in is how exhausting all of this is. For those of us who are plugged in, it hammers us every day and we risk burning out when the fight is not half-done. Meanwhile the other side remains utterly ignited. The things that we find taxing, like the slow march of justice in the Trump trials, serve to embolden those who would deconstruct what we have. We MUST hang on and see this through, or we WILL wake up one fine morning to the death of the great American experiment and the rise of Gilead.

  • @lladnar69
    @lladnar69 Před 7 měsíci +16

    The labor movement did not "come out of nowhere". That movement is a lasting tribute to the efforts of Bernie Sanders Presidential campaigns. From 2015 until 2021, he barnstormed America waking Americans up to how their wages were being stolen and their political power was in banding together to effect change. We will miss him when he is gone.

  • @AzEagletarian
    @AzEagletarian Před 7 měsíci +46

    Great interview! Thanks Dean! Thanks Heather! Question: What can we DO? Answer: Take up oxygen. Tell stories about what you want, and what you demand, and what you don't want to see happen anymore. This is the role and function of artists and creative types. It's important to realize we are ALL artistic in some way, some medium. We are ALL creative. Put together old ideas with new ideas. Both incrementally as well as radically NEW ways to do things.

    • @dolinaj1
      @dolinaj1 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Blah! Blah! Blah! Voting blue provides first answers to the crisis.

    • @8Olivia8
      @8Olivia8 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I was introduced to Heather's newsletter months ago and lost track of her when I changed my email address. I believe I heard her say that she doesn't watch TV, and I was wondering how she follows Trump's insanity without seeing him. In any case, Heather's view is very sane and enables a wide, full knowledge that takes in our history.

    • @allieg4011
      @allieg4011 Před 7 měsíci

      We also need to get others to vote blue as well.@@dolinaj1

    • @grayisgood
      @grayisgood Před 7 měsíci +1

      She says near the end that we can change minds by talking to people one on one.

    • @grayisgood
      @grayisgood Před 7 měsíci

      She is wrong. I mean, maybe some minds, but not the trump supporters' minds. Not enough to make a difference. Their identity is wrapped up in the whole thing and they are not going to do any thinking, which would be required for them to see reason. They stubbornly choose the delusion.

  • @lindarice1589
    @lindarice1589 Před 7 měsíci +15

    I love hearing this. It's good to hear optimism for a change 😅

  • @thinkinginTx
    @thinkinginTx Před 7 měsíci +9

    We need to scare the shite out of those people who are asleep at the wheel about all they will lose under fascism and the traitor

    • @raymondmiller5098
      @raymondmiller5098 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Correct. Forward this vid to every open-minded person you know. Also, vote and encourage all other like-minded folks you know to register to vote.

  • @lizannewhitlow1085
    @lizannewhitlow1085 Před 7 měsíci +12

    Outstanding discussion. Thank you.

  • @bmunson4920
    @bmunson4920 Před 7 měsíci +7

    ‘They don’t mean it’….so why are they wasting effort writing ‘policy papers’ about removing social security?

  • @BugGenerat0r
    @BugGenerat0r Před 7 měsíci +6

    It's revealing that we call them "followers". Which is a term for people in a cult.

  • @joannebamfordmccombs9755
    @joannebamfordmccombs9755 Před 7 měsíci +23

    When people are educated and learn how we got here, then maybe there is hope that citizens can reverse the trend that is frightening.

    • @dolinaj1
      @dolinaj1 Před 7 měsíci

      VOTE BLUE! Education in and of itself is inadequate.

  • @DrNancyLivingCoCreatively
    @DrNancyLivingCoCreatively Před 7 měsíci +11

    Context matters. Love Heather.

  • @HepCatJack
    @HepCatJack Před 7 měsíci +10

    Before it was a Reagan phrase, "Make America Great Again" was from Henry Ford's 1924 Presidential run.

    • @rickglorie
      @rickglorie Před 7 měsíci +3

      Yeah, it was always fascistoid

  • @andym4695
    @andym4695 Před 7 měsíci +32

    I became more watchful of ex-president Donnie as his campaign progressed. Towards that November, especially with Comey's interference and Clinton's gaffes, I got more and more concerned.
    And now, ex-president Donnie tells us exactly what he plans to do, and a large population of conservatives seem to get off on it. Yecch.

    • @stregalilith
      @stregalilith Před 7 měsíci

      They aren't conservatives. They have conserved nothing. They are hysterical from the rage he has inspired in them and now others are competing to be more rageful because it seems to work but ultimately it leads nowhere good.

  • @RickyRay-do9cp
    @RickyRay-do9cp Před 7 měsíci +13

    It’s tragic to see countless people in America trying to validate themselves through a psychopath in diapers and Tammy Faye makeup.

  • @susanharrison2941
    @susanharrison2941 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Heather is always so positive. Thank you for your important work

  • @cathyhannahperez
    @cathyhannahperez Před 7 měsíci +5

    Heather is even cooler now that she quoted Harry Potter! Go Heather!

  • @Sonja14athome
    @Sonja14athome Před 6 měsíci +1

    The finest discussion on the subject I have heard to date. Heather Cox Richardson's assessment of the situation we now find purselves in, on all fronts, is spot-on. I urge all who have seen this video to share it widely.

  • @charlesbowdler2666
    @charlesbowdler2666 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Excellent discussion, thanks 👍

  • @crawkn
    @crawkn Před 7 měsíci +6

    I agree with Heather that, while we aren't out of the woods yet, things are moving in the right direction, and the people are aware of the danger, and activated to oppose the minority rule which is being threatened.

  • @TerlinguaTalkeetna
    @TerlinguaTalkeetna Před 7 měsíci +5

    Vote before a vote doesn't count anymore and real trouble begins.

  • @PaulStatz-xl3em
    @PaulStatz-xl3em Před 7 měsíci +20

    Projection Chumpy says he's fighting for you He's only running as a try to stay out of prison And if he gets his authoritarian job he'll turn on you when he needs a scapegoat

  • @TheresaMarie16
    @TheresaMarie16 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I worked from the 80's through the 90's into the early aughts, until 2019. I can no longer work now. Do Not Take AWAY my Social Security. How do we keep our Social Security. How can I live without Social Security?

  • @jamesb2059
    @jamesb2059 Před 7 měsíci +26

    Heather Cox Richardson is excellent. Showing respect for other people, whether or not you agree with them, is something societies have built over centuries as part of the democratic ideal. It is the mark of a civilized person. Trump shows nothing of this quality.

    • @Kodiak1293
      @Kodiak1293 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Yes, and all of his antics were unprevoked outburst. The left he targeted were so civil to him and truthful to the public.
      Btw, it was not trump pushing authoritarianism, he is not the one that openly passed EOs knowing they were unconstitutional, hw was not the one that sent the DOJ brass after his opponent for the next presidential race. This lady is full of crap. A civil acting one, i give you that, but she is either clueless, or lieing thru her teeth. I would love to hear her take on the lefts vision of a global socialist one world order at the expense of our country, our freedoms, our property and wealth. Where does she stand on that.
      And he is clueless, how about do some research. One trunp had nothing to do with the escalation that took place j6. It was not an insurrection, and the people responsible for this is being exposed that will further cement what i have said. Both are pushing fairytales.

    • @Kodiak1293
      @Kodiak1293 Před 7 měsíci +1

      The corporate owned media is worst than these two. They are the propaganda arn for the left. Holy crap, how do these two sleep at night spreading this crap. They cannot actually believe this.

    • @jackplumley3308
      @jackplumley3308 Před 7 měsíci

      You mean respect like Biden and other leftist apparatchiks calling conservatives white supremacists and domestic extremists who are a threat? That kind of respect? 🙄

  • @timothyoo7
    @timothyoo7 Před 7 měsíci +30

    NO NO NO, not a salesman, but rather a con man! Its really, really difficult to use the word man in any sentence describing Trump.

    • @James24_
      @James24_ Před 7 měsíci +1

      How about “best president” in a sentence?

    • @pete1342
      @pete1342 Před 7 měsíci

      Crybaby is a better description of trump.

    • @Marvellous132
      @Marvellous132 Před 6 měsíci

      ​​@@James24_How about you quantify that? An empty and hollow statement doesn't cut it. Now, are you going to look at ALL of Trump's term or pick and choose what served your empty statement? Let's see....

    • @Theomite
      @Theomite Před 6 měsíci

      A con man sells confidence.

  • @asbeautifulasasunset
    @asbeautifulasasunset Před 7 měsíci +6

    To equate Trump with a car salesman is to insult car salesmen and saleswomen.

  • @scottdavis3571
    @scottdavis3571 Před 7 měsíci +4

    The so-called Primaries are State elections. Please vote in both elections.

  • @Madronaxyz
    @Madronaxyz Před 7 měsíci +8

    Trump did not start talking about doing things for regular Americans until Bernie Sanders started gaining popularity. Trump preempted Bernie's points and lied to say that Trump would support policies that would improve the lives of Americans who were not in the top 90%.

  • @bobpenny8011
    @bobpenny8011 Před 7 měsíci +8

    They already came for social security. I got my social security survivor death benefits, which were only available to me because 1) my father had died and 2) I was a full time college student under the age of 24. - I had that taken away by Reagan, I believe in a “grand bargain” on the budget with Tip O’Neil. That has never come back. And now there’s all this talk now about forgiving student debt. What about the money they stole from all the college kids whose parents had died?

  • @RockNRod.
    @RockNRod. Před 7 měsíci +3

    Why would you internalize any politician, its nuts and creepy

  • @brianhill5009
    @brianhill5009 Před 7 měsíci +18

    She says at one point that she no longer found Trump interesting. I don't recall him ever being interesting, only heinous, ridiculous, and traitorous.

    • @karlrhody2977
      @karlrhody2977 Před 5 měsíci

      Your anti american

    • @jennylundindraper1297
      @jennylundindraper1297 Před 5 měsíci

      Exactly.. Trump is not a complex, interesting person. He is a shallow, power and money hungry narcissist who places himself above all else.

  • @alexandrawallner8814
    @alexandrawallner8814 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Heather Cox Richardson is a great speaker, very intelligent writer. Really good podcast. Thank you!

  • @neosandy
    @neosandy Před 7 měsíci +3

    We've been an oligarchy for quite awhile now.

  • @markhammond7060
    @markhammond7060 Před 7 měsíci +6

    That was surprisingly good!! Not a lady I've heard of before, but very insightful.. I look forward to hearing more of her work.

  • @audiblevideo
    @audiblevideo Před 7 měsíci +3

    I CANT LIKE OR LOVE THIS ENOUGH!!! WE have the power to STOP and CHANGE the undemocratic and illiberal horror presented to us as an "inevitability". Nothing is written. Acceptance and flourishing can be realized, or EXCLUSION and kleptocracy can become the norm. Its our choice. Choose well.

  • @TheJo201
    @TheJo201 Před 7 měsíci +2

    This Lady is absolutely Correct and l like the way she connects present events with history. Omg It’s sad when Stupidity and Actual Blindness is a Choice.

  • @sandysnider7231
    @sandysnider7231 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Such a good interview! Heather can speak about these issues in layman terms that we can understand. Thanks for keeping us informed..

  • @georgefarrington895
    @georgefarrington895 Před 7 měsíci +3

    The main news channels are turning a blind eye to this. Wake up America while there is still time.

    • @pattitus1398
      @pattitus1398 Před 6 měsíci

      Yes. It's as if Main Stream Media is as scared of TFG's vengefulness as the GOP is.

  • @LeylandKing7659
    @LeylandKing7659 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Heather Cox Richardson is an extraordinarily brilliant historian. Thank you.

  • @dblocker3145
    @dblocker3145 Před 7 měsíci +4

    What she is saying sounds good, but social media seems to be far more powerful than actual conversations between individuals.

    • @stregalilith
      @stregalilith Před 7 měsíci +1

      That's why voting is so important.

  • @MrSeanfrisco
    @MrSeanfrisco Před 7 měsíci +4

    What an excellent erudite discussion. Thank you HCR. (And Go Boston College!)

  • @stephenheiden86
    @stephenheiden86 Před 7 měsíci +15

    HCR has this in common with Spiro Agnew-there IS a “Silent Majority,” and Heather Cox Richardson is its spokeswoman.
    Americans rendered mute by this hyperbolically hysterical moment of history take solace and courage from her rock solid belief in our country, her unassailable knowledge of its tumultuous history and her stone-cold sanity.

  • @long-pierproductions6835
    @long-pierproductions6835 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I have been subscribed to Heather for about a year now. She is brilliant and we need her especially now. I have been pretty downbeat about the future of our country until I started to hear Heather say here she has hope. Now I have hope for our country.

  • @carolinemaybe
    @carolinemaybe Před 7 měsíci +7

    Education helps but people don’t even need that. The stories of the Wizard of Oz and the emperors new clothes.

  • @JohnDoe-vy5hh
    @JohnDoe-vy5hh Před 7 měsíci +5

    I spoke up on social media and face to face with my friends from high school and had my life destroyed by Republicans.

    • @quill444
      @quill444 Před 7 měsíci

      We can only try to ascertain why so many people continue to support the Republican Party and such a corrupt and loathsome individual, in spite of all that continues to become known about him, and is continuously revealed. It somewhat reminds me of the second amendment issue, and how visceral people get over the right to bear arms. A few close friends of mine no longer carry, and in fact, their guns were "removed from their cold, dead hands" and turned over to the local police or other government agency by their loved ones after they committed suicide. You see: we can never really know what anguish people are going though, even and especially as they seem to disagree with us the most. - j q t -

    • @stregalilith
      @stregalilith Před 7 měsíci +3

      I hope your life isn't destroyed. Make it better by voting Blue. Also, help others to vote Blue, driving them to the polls, reminding them to vote and telling your story.

  • @billmerrill9542
    @billmerrill9542 Před 7 měsíci +2

    This is so excellent! My favorite historian.

  • @davidoran123
    @davidoran123 Před 6 měsíci +3

    people must be made aware of the choice we face in 2024, Democracy or Dictatorship. VOTE BLUE

  • @JGLy22086
    @JGLy22086 Před 7 měsíci +3

    There was a clip that was interviewing trumpers. One man actually said He could stand on the steps of the White House and shoot someone and I would still vote for him. This statement horrifies me!

  • @catherinewhite3508
    @catherinewhite3508 Před 7 měsíci +11

    Can she be president pretty please

  • @ighdesigns
    @ighdesigns Před 7 měsíci +6

    T**** was NOTHING without his enablers.

    • @ninod1502
      @ninod1502 Před 7 měsíci +1

      There are more standing by for the next mission

    • @rickglorie
      @rickglorie Před 7 měsíci

      How's the koolaid?@@ninod1502

  • @Mossyrocklove
    @Mossyrocklove Před 4 měsíci +1

    Very interesting conversation. Thank you!

  • @jacquelineberns9453
    @jacquelineberns9453 Před 6 měsíci +3

    “Senate Republicans could have stooped djt from 2015 and forward, but selected to not.”- She is 💯 percent correct

  • @dannybagley9424
    @dannybagley9424 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Historians use the gift of 20/20 hindsight.

    • @c.a.savage5689
      @c.a.savage5689 Před 7 měsíci +2

      No, l think that is incorrect. 20/20 hindsight mean you know what SHOULD have been done, but wasn't.
      Historians state what FACTUALLY happened at a moment in time and the events leading up to it.
      It's up to every clear thinking individual to draw their own conclusions.

    • @dannybagley9424
      @dannybagley9424 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@c.a.savage5689 20/20 hindsight can also mean seeing something that happened without all the clutter, misinformation, and disinformation.

  • @karenbird6727
    @karenbird6727 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Thank you for bringing up these points!

  • @annettegrantham7938
    @annettegrantham7938 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I don’t watch television either. I don’t have an operating TV. I have become aware that there is a universe/American that I have no knowledge or understanding of. The most recent shock I got was the writers strike. I am wondering how anyone can know or understand America or Americans if you don’t have some familiarity with TV/programming. Looking into this matter some years ago in the Anenburg school of communications library at the U of Pa. I was impressed by the amount and quality of their collection. There is a lot to know.

  • @millenniumvintage9726
    @millenniumvintage9726 Před 7 měsíci +3

    19:57 I would love to hear an explanation for this. It’s a take I haven’t heard before.

  • @annewhite9351
    @annewhite9351 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Dr. Richardson’s book is great! If you haven’t read, please do.

  • @hawkflower1
    @hawkflower1 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Thank you!

  • @mannersmatter6773
    @mannersmatter6773 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Great discussion thank you

  • @168July
    @168July Před 6 měsíci +4

    What a great interview and explanation by this Historian to important issues facing us now. She covers the following important issues of today such as what is going on in America with Trump, the Republican Party, Authoritarianism, The rise of American Christian Nationalism, and the future of America. Thank you, thank you to Salon for the interview and to Professor Richardson for her book “Democracy Awakening”.

  • @sarahwilliams9310
    @sarahwilliams9310 Před 7 měsíci +5

    one more thing it is great that people like you tell us what is happening but i hear little about what to do .

    • @leehamilton4459
      @leehamilton4459 Před 6 měsíci

      You must not have listened to the entire thing. She spoke of what we could do at the end.

  • @lzrd8460
    @lzrd8460 Před 5 měsíci

    Excellent show! 👏👏👏👏👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @jewel58s
    @jewel58s Před 7 měsíci +4

    I really wish Heather’s book and what she is seeing in our politics today to the general population. It’s frightening to hear. What can we do. I almost feel like we are living thru another creation of another Hitler and party.

  • @richardcaves3601
    @richardcaves3601 Před 7 měsíci +3

    As someone from NZ looking in, especially at American political history, I think a little perspective is needed. There always has been a small segment of the American political scene that was and is, authoritarian and dictatorial in nature, and would like to see democracy overturned. From the loyalist tories during the revolution, to the anti-federalists, to the KKK and the American Bund, to the McCarthyists, they've all been defeated at the ballot box.

    • @downunder4404
      @downunder4404 Před 6 měsíci

      This seems a bit different though. Trump wasn't soundly defeated in 2020. He still attracted significant votes.

    • @richardcaves3601
      @richardcaves3601 Před 6 měsíci

      @@downunder4404 once he got the GOP nomination, yeah, he got the party vote. But his core support only ever amounted to 45-55% of the GOP vote, at best. Now the court cases are stacking up, his support from that sector has dropped away to 30-35% of GOP vote. The poll results we are seeing are heavily skewed and fail to mention they're only polling Republican party support. Once the convictions start, and especially when the NY fraud penalties are known, his support will fade to less than 15% of GOP. The probability is that he won't get on the ballot paper. There's about four states that are going through the disqualification process with another 15-20 following.

  • @helenredding4100
    @helenredding4100 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Great program!!

  • @artielatzko9379
    @artielatzko9379 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I don't think the average person knows what a Democracy. It is simple a Democracy is the Majority.

  • @JPatrickT12
    @JPatrickT12 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Did anyone notice that Cox’s optimism for our current situation was based on the change from the anti-democratic “universal slavery” movement of 1953 to Lincoln’s “universal equality” speeches of 1863, WITHOUT MENTIONING THAT IT TOOK A CIVIL WAR THAT KILLED 620,000+ MEN???!!!

  • @user-cv3gb6lg5j
    @user-cv3gb6lg5j Před 7 měsíci +2

    Heather Cox Richardson is clearly a very wise woman. Listen carefully to her viewpoints.

  • @carolperkins1493
    @carolperkins1493 Před 7 měsíci +18

    I'm 67 and I'm scared shitless that if the repubs take power next year, I will lose my social security, and sadly that's all I have to live on. I won't survive it.

    • @DanielJett
      @DanielJett Před 7 měsíci +2

      Relax. Your precious entitlement is protected by law. Changes have to be made to future benefits (i.e., people who are not current benefits recipients) in order to preserve the program for the long haul and prevent its implementation inevitable implosion.

    • @Raymond-rr5iv
      @Raymond-rr5iv Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@DanielJettagreed 👍!!!

    • @rickglorie
      @rickglorie Před 7 měsíci +5

      Not all, it can easily be paid for if it wasn't for the slashing of the IRS and tax cuts for the rich, that ballooned the National Debt under Trump with 7 billion, that's why the inflation is so high; all the printed money. Tax the rich. It's the basic civilized thing to do. @@DanielJett

    • @DanielJett
      @DanielJett Před 7 měsíci

      @@rickglorie In what universe will higher staffing at the IRS pay for trillions in unfunded liabilities? I really don’t think you understand the amount of money required to keep Medicare and Social Security solvent. We have way more people drawing benefits and fewer people paying for those benefits through direct payroll tax revenue.

    • @rickglorie
      @rickglorie Před 7 měsíci

      @@DanielJett America has more than enouvh money for this. You're just yapping the republican playbook: defund the IRS, tax cuts for the rich, cut social security. Repeat. There are trillions in taxes not collected and billions in taxcuts fiven to corporations. So the corporations have social security or socialism, what Americans pay for. This is called privatizing profit and socializing debt. It's lame.

  • @hiltonwatkins6750
    @hiltonwatkins6750 Před 6 měsíci +2

    He is a good interviewer…👍🏻

  • @janiceworthington9176
    @janiceworthington9176 Před 7 měsíci +2

    The legitimizing of trump by the GOP started long before 2020/2021. Thru had MANY opportunities to speak out for years leading up to that and they weee complicit with their silence. Love HCR btw

  • @jimschachtschneider7741
    @jimschachtschneider7741 Před 7 měsíci +5

    It appears to me that trump appeals to many different fears. Fears that their jobs are being taken by "foreigners", that they are being "replaced" by people of different religions, races, beliefs, etc. In their minds - trump will somehow make things better - even though all he is really doing is catering to their fears.

    • @bonniejohnson6268
      @bonniejohnson6268 Před 6 měsíci

      So are 10 million people stampeding the border an unfounded fear Diseases are real.

  • @ConstitutionalAmerican
    @ConstitutionalAmerican Před 7 měsíci +2

    Change brings both progress and disruption to routine. An age old battle that only catastrophes can put pause on.

  • @johnsmith-wk2tb
    @johnsmith-wk2tb Před 6 měsíci +1

    With social security, ending it isn't being promoted, but ending the requirement of giving Bill Gates $3,000 a month in benefits. The fact that nobody mentions that shocks me.

  • @mypersonalaccount1001
    @mypersonalaccount1001 Před 7 měsíci +4

    When examining the global landscape and the ominous rise of totalitarianism in various nations, whether they be classified as first or fifth world, it is striking to note the unsettling parallels.
    One of the most disconcerting trends is the deliberate use of incendiary rhetoric, fostering division and animosity among citizens. In some instances, this rhetoric targets wealthy individuals, portraying them as malevolent figures, or labels progress itself as the adversary. Totalitarian leaders often employ this divisive language to obscure their own authoritarian agendas, cynically accusing their political opponents of harboring such intentions.
    Furthermore, these totalitarian regimes often display a flagrant disregard for the rule of law, sometimes even mocking it openly. This attitude sends a dangerous message to their followers, effectively granting them a blank check to flout established rules and norms at their own discretion. This erosion of respect for the law not only undermines the foundations of a just society but also contributes to an environment where individuals may act with impunity, further deepening the crisis.
    Another distressing characteristic is blatant hypocrisy and deception, regardless of the undeniable evidence before our eyes. Totalitarian regimes frequently compel individuals,who once believed in the promise of positive change within the system, to (leave) public service, after witnessing firsthand the underlying totalitarian ambitions of sub-leaders within the government.
    These regimes often resort to denigrating and vilifying those who dare to criticize their authority, disregarding moral values, and resorting to name-calling and character denigration. The casual manipulation of facts during public speeches further erodes trust in information dissemination.
    Another alarming facet is the systematic demonization of media outlets that dare to scrutinize their leadership, effectively silencing dissenting voices and fueling hatred within the leader's followers.
    Simultaneously, there is a propensity to idealize and establish alliances, whether political or not, with foreign totalitarian regimes, thus undermining the principles of democracy and human rights.
    The scourge of corruption within these regimes is particularly brazen and unapologetic. Anyone who exposes or opposes this corruption is often labeled an enemy of the people. Equally concerning is the deliberate manipulation of constitutional reforms to perpetuate the leader's political ideology, effectively subverting democratic principles.
    History has shown that these patterns tend to repeat themselves. It is our responsibility to educate those unfamiliar with totalitarianism, its manifestations, and the intricacies of global politics in a clear and unambiguous manner. Failure to do so may lead us down the same dark path as countries that never believed such a fate could befall them.
    Vigilance, awareness, and informed citizenship are essential safeguards against the encroachment of totalitarianism on our democratic values and institutions; be active, be proactive, don’t take things for granted. It can happen, we are not immune to this reality.

    • @c.a.savage5689
      @c.a.savage5689 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Good luck. Americans aren't particularly known for the length of their attention spans, interest in world history or social altruism (unless there's a war and/or natural disaster).

  • @lizannewhitlow1085
    @lizannewhitlow1085 Před 7 měsíci +10

    Mitch McConnell is responsible for this IMHO.

    • @dolinaj1
      @dolinaj1 Před 7 měsíci +3

      The GOP and the GQP play to the least common denominator in American voters.

  • @mikewhite4560
    @mikewhite4560 Před 7 měsíci +1

    What an INTELLIGENT Conversation....
    At L A S T....LOL

  • @carrolbell2017
    @carrolbell2017 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I had a sister and a brother tell me to go to hell after asking them about Jan 6 actually I wanted their opinion