POWERPACK problems? ZF AS-TRONIC LITE REPAIR
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- well seems EURO 5 has BEEN SENT TO TEST ME once again. with a DAF LF AS-TRONIC LITE with a no gear selection issue we need to identity what was causing it, with some simple tests we can use this methodology to identify the pump is at fault.
from here we can carry out removal, identification and replacement of the AS-TRONIC LITE powerpack unit.
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Good call that to take out the gear box .
Saved you a lot of messing about especially with one ofvthe pipes not playing ball 👍👍👍👍
Hey John, thanks for the comment. Yes them pipes can be a pain and I just didn't have any room! I had a Mercedes not long ago with the same issue and pipes that didn't want to play ball. I just don't have time to fight these issues anymore unfortunately 😒
Awesome work 👏. Thank you you helped me at work today lol 👏. Thank you
Thanks a lot for spending your time to upload this valuable video
No problem buddy, thanks for taking the time to watch it and comment 😎
Great video , thanks for sharing 👍
Thanks for watching!
Thank you very much for info mate
No problem buddy, thanks for taking the time to watch and I hope it helps 😎
Nice work
Thanks Buddy 👍
Thank you.
Thank you for the comment 👌😎 hopefully your find some use for the content one day ☺️
In my efforts to make this video shorter and more to the point (it was originally 2hours and 35mins!) I've cut out the exhaust refitment and propshaft section 😢🫣 well done me 😂
Would love to see non edited video with all good words you probably said when you realized you fckd up the thread 😅
@@rafwlkpPL ha ha ha I've thought about a bloopers video 📸. You should hear the stuff I come out with recording these voice overs 🤣
Hi
I have a problem to with my daf lf45
I uploaded a video on my channel
Its the first time i uploaded something on youtube
Do you mind checking my video
And maybe you know the fault
Thanks Kenneth from Belgium
When u said a tesco job calling, i felt that....... im 18 years in the trade,
Interesting u didn't bang a clutch in too . Great video,
Ha ha ha 😂. I'd be so bored in tesco though 👌. I wouldn't do what I do if I liked the simple life 🫣
The clutch was checked from what I remember, but with these clutches usually managing 600k, I think it was perfectly serviceable, so It went back in....that or the customer didn't have enough credit 😂. Andrew....thanks for watching the video buddy and for commenting 😎👍
@@TRUCKTECHUK yep got experience in daf lf, iveco daily, eurcargo, dennis rcv' s etc..
I’ve done quite a few of these and luckily I’ve never had to take the box out, somehow the pipes have always been reasonable. I’ve got two at the minute with the same fault. Oil level float switch, texa gives no info at all
Hey Alan thanks for the comment. Yes it's the only one I've had to pull the box on...also the only one I've had where I can't see what I'm doing and ended up rounding a pipe off with a brake pipe spanner also 🫣.
In regards to the float switch, I think it only runs to the ecu but I will check later with a more informative tool for you 😅
H@@TRUCKTECHUK it does, I’ve repaired the CAN and power supplies going to the TECU as there were multiple faults and a botched “repair” where somebody has sliced through everything with a Stanley knife so now it’s all green. Never came across this before and for it to be on 2 trucks from the same company I’m a bit suspicious
Great video mate, I also have a problem with power pack. Do you need to take out gearbox to replace pipes above a power pack? Many thanks
Hi buddy. It's ALLL ABOUT access and perseverance.
If you are small and nimble like an apprentice your have a chance on changing them. Some LF'S I work on don't have the same issue as this flatbed and the headboard is mounted further back making it easy to work on.
I hope this makes sense buddy 😎👌
@@TRUCKTECHUK Thanks a lot :)
@@MultiInfinity100 no problem buddy and good luck! 👍
Did the owner not ask ya to do a quick clutch plate inspection, or had it been done recently?
Hi thanks for the comment 👌🙂. I checked the clutch plate when I checked the bearings, it's something you just do isn't it. But the clutches on these LF'S last so well I find
How much did you pay for that powerpack?i have a cf65 with the same problem but the powerpack is too expensive
Thanks for the comment. If you give ecodrive a ring they will do you a better price on recon unit. I'd have to check DAF as I can't remember what the cost off the top of my head.
In Africa , We switch it to Manual gearbox , Delete Adblu , and i guarantee you , you will not see it in a shop again 😁😁
Here in africa we jus convert that gearbox to manual
Hey thanks for the comment 👌😎. Unfortunately here the cost to convert such a old vehicle would be more than the refurbished part.......and people can't drive a manual here 😂😂😂
ahhh FT the universal torque setting
It's all well and good till righty tighty becomes righty loosey 😂😂😂👌
@@TRUCKTECHUK correct 👍🏻
Hi great video ours needs to go to Africa very soon but please can you tell us if we can buy new pipes direct from daf as we are struggling to get them made.also having fitted our new power-packed do we have to re pressurise the gear box or can we just fill the reservoir and hopefully start and go.many thanks.
Hi thanks for the comment.all pipes are available from DAF but might be cheaper at iveco or Renault. If your fitting a new power pack it will req programming or the ECU swapping over from the old one. Any pipes changed will req the power pack bleeding for air in the pipes unfortunately so you will need a diagnostic computer capable of this functionality
What ever happened to the gear lever and clutch pedal
Ha ha ha You can't buy a manual any more!. I heard it was more cost-effective to sell automatic-only gearboxes over the entire NGD range (XD-XB-XG) than let drivers loose with a manual 😂😂😂
I'm in new zealand I drive a 2018 dafcf 85 with a 18 speed roadranger manual 500000 kms on the clock and still on the original clutch
People like you are few and far between who have mechanical sympathy for a vehicle buddy 😌 most people treat company assets like they are disposable. I once fitted 2 clutches to the same VOLVO FM IN A MONTH!
My name is Denis I'm auto electrician .I have Daf LF55 lector gear D R N not showing in the dashboard
Hey Denis thanks for the comment. You will need some diagnostics to see if the pressure in the pump is enough for the gears to select neutral 😐
Is there a way to bleed the hydraulic witout pc softwere?
Hi Freddie 👋. Yes, you can buy an Android-based tablet that can bleed the system without the large price tag but if you're referring to a manual way to do it.....no unfortunately 😕
Do you have a link to this app?@@TRUCKTECHUK
@@TRUCKTECHUK Great video - I have just refitted the rebuilt ecu to my pack on 2012 MAN TGL. I had to remove the whole pack so air has got in. No options to bleed 2012 on Delphi but no codes and goes into gear and moves no issues. Does no codes mean I will get away without a bleed? Don't want to het stuck out on the road.
You would have introduced air into the system so now have a combination of fluid and air in the lines. As Dave at TVD said yesterday you will need someone with diagnostics capable of doing this bleeding properly
Hey my friend .how are you
I have the same problem with one of this gearbox .so the owner buy a new module with pump complete. But the problem is how can I bleed the system and program it because I have a jaltest diagnostic tool..please bro....can you help me bro
Thanks for the comment, hope you're doing well! If you can still read the old module, you can copy and paste the ECU information. That will allow you to program the new ECU. You can then use the calibration and bleeding function on Jaltest. Hope this helps buddy
@@TRUCKTECHUK good to hear you are doing great ..ok bro I'll try copie the program on the jaltest ..so I only need to plug in the old unit and copie ots program and plug in the new unit and paste it on the unit ???
@@vinodjokhan3077 I'm not with JALTEST so can't remember the exact menu options but yes that's what I'd do 👌😎
Hello... I want to service my gearbox, which gearbox oil must I use. I'm using the same truck.
@@TRUCKTECHUK❤
Whats the part number of that powerpack?
That's a good question 🤔
Them powerpacks failing after 2 and even 1 year from new.
Hey, thanks for the comment 😎👍.
Oh, tell me about it! I'm glad they have discontinued it here now and replaced it with the powerline transmission 😎
I will play captain hindsight ,that awkward shit of a pipe i fit loosely first to the powerpack then start it in the turret .and then fits the powerpack bolts loosely so i have some wiggle room ..If your showing the hero paper at least show the answers...Did it honestly calibrate first time ????
ahoy there captain hindsight 🤣 yes I will certainly re-engineer the fitment process next time, I've never changed the pipes before for new I've always reused and never had a issue 🤷 must be the cheap Korean labourer bent it to far 😂👌
i didn't bother with the last paper as I was to busy with all this social media junk 😂 I rechecked the video ....think it went through calibration 3 times before it was happy 🥹
@@TRUCKTECHUK I never used to change the pipes ,now i price them anyway ,that way the customer is aware ,and i now have a stack of old ones to use just in case ..You won't get a present for not filling out the 4th paper lol...I learned that as long as you have the red transmission warning it will not complete the clutch part at the end on the pre euro 6 vehicles ..If jacking it up doesn't help i race it ,and try to start the engine and hit ok before the red warning comes up ,as it will work ok with the anber warning lol
Not the cheapest of things are they! Makes me want to go in not bending pipes for a living 😂
I will keep that in mind for next time, I don't change many of these power packs.....they might be old but just like the As-tronic lite gearbox they just keep working.....shame it's gone really as I have a feeling were going to get very intimate with the latest ZF powerline box if it's anything like Traxon
@@TRUCKTECHUK From what the lad at ZF said it is a proper auto ..So if anything like the allison we will never be involved in it ..Hopefully i picked him up wrong
Oh it sounds like things are getting better and better then 😂😂😂 we will still have to diagnose the bloody thing though 🫣🫣🫣🫣
I need you here in Barbados to repair ours, please make contact with me.
Hey Dwayne 👋, I could do with a holiday lol 😆.
What seems to be the problem?
I don't miss all these crap jobs. Daf failed after Daf 2800 DKS. Downhill after that
Things are too complicated these days !!!
mate you think this old piece of junk was complicated you should get a load of the Next Generation DAF. that feels like more software than hardware 😎
@@TRUCKTECHUK nightmare mate 😩
so frustrating when every fucking bolt gives you a hard time
Tell me about it buddy! It's why I like working for a dealership.90% of trucks are new and under warranty.
I was always a fan of the LF whilst I worked at DAF, CF and XF are trash
Hi josh 👋 oooohhhhh but the wiring diagrams for LF 🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈 ha ha ha.
You say CF and XF are trash but the CF doesn't exist anymore and the XF is now the smallest 'big cab' truck daf do! It's all changed with NGD.
@@TRUCKTECHUK I left about 6 years ago and went to Mercedes and now plant so I haven’t a clue about the new daf’s like NGd, XG etc etc. Just always liked the simplicity of an LF, if you compare it to an atego, eurocargo, tgm they are a dream.