Melbourne's Closed St Kilda Railway Line
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2020
- The St Kilda Railway Line Was An Integral Part Of Melbourne's Growth Opening In 1857, And Closing in 1987, So What Remains Today?
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You are a font of knowledge when it comes to Melbourne's train history young fella, with young people like you our country will be in good hands, keep up the good work...........
Glad you think that Noel, it means a lot. Hopefully I can create a career out something that I am doing now, that would be awesome
I agree its good to see young people doing good. I hope those rattle cans in the background aren't his? Lol.
@@freeagent8225 He looks a bit to intelligent to be writing tags on walls.
Leave that skill to the idiots that don't know any better.
@@weldmachine yeah
@@thetrainman548 Totally agree with Noel's comments. I'm an old bugger so I still remember the old St Kilda line. We used to take to go to Luna Park. The trains only had 2 or 3 carriages and I remember the doors opened outward, I'd never seen that before on a VicRail train.
I'm 62. As a child, travelled in the old Tait, swing door carriages. I worked for the Victorian Railways from age 16 to 20. North Brighton, Armidale and Bentleigh. I roved from Caulfield to Patterson as a group station assistant as well. Times have certainly changed! Never did lose my love of trains. Thank you, for your videos. 🙂
I worked in the railways overhead division in the 80’s when they were converting the line to light rail. I recall there was a lot of resistance to the light rail project between the unions and government. Myself & other overhead workers refused to isolate the overhead system at the time. But the government pushed through their agenda! I only found your channel today, watched a few vids already, you’re doing a great job, providing some very good information. Keep up the good work.
Yay finally the St Kilda Line
Haha, happy to get this video out :)
Used to take that train to see bands at the Ballroom, POW and Espy.
That's cool Gavan! Hope you enjoyed the video :)
I know this is three years old but it just popped up on my CZcams. I can remember taking the old wooden red train to St Kilda in the 1980's. It was fun
I've been on the St Kilda light rail line several times Max, but never knew about that long lost Windsor loop line, so thanks for including that! Another great production and yeh, I liked that little pose at Middle Park too!
Haha, thanks very much Barney, glad you picked up the pose too :) I will be doing a video on the Windsor Loop line one day, such a little known part of Melbourne's Hstory
I worked at St Kildare station as a station Assistant watching the Red Rattlers come in the station and waving the Gaurd it's all clear to take the train out he signals the driver to go great memories
Memories of great times from the past.
Seems these days that's all we have left ??
Thank you; yesterday while on the Hurstbridge line I wondered at Diamond Creek (and geology) then Emerald. Who thought we would get diamonds and emeralds on sandstone like this?
Turns out, as you point out that Emerald was probably named in honour of immigrants from Eire, Ireland, like Emerald Hill in South Melbourne. You're a god send!!
I've always wished that they would reintroduce trains again in the ST Kilda line, the loop line which few people know about would be great too! You're putting out some awesome videos mate, Keep up the great work!
With the Windsor loop line, there are some parks that follow the route of the old line including Windsor Siding and Gladstone Gardens! It's nice to walk along those and wonder how the area has changed.
My first job in Melbourne was the Victorian Railways and my first station was St Kilda. 13 shifts a fortnight was the norm for a station assistant in those days (1965) and "split shifts" (6am to 10am, then 2pm to 6pm) were common. The flood of passengers morning and afternoon seemed normal in those days, but would be regarded with horror by any present-day traveller undertaking the eleven-minute journey from St KIlda to Flinders St. My boss, stationmaster Cliff Wilson, looked gorgeous in his dark-blue-and-gold uniform, as did his Assistant, Harry Traegar (?) who was also the Communist Party candidate for the St Kilda Council. We were a mixed crew of about thirty permanent staff members, who were a cheerful lot, always alert for the new boy who they could solemnly send across to number three road with a rag and a can of Brasso to polish the rails.
Great video and history. I lived around these parts for over twenty years. At least this line didn’t disappear with its tracks ripped up. Light rail is a magic solution and you have to wonder if some of the other inner Melbourne railway lines could have ended up this way as light rail…
Watching 2024. Excellent young man.
Having lived in Melbourne for 10 years, I found your chat regarding the St. Kilda rail line very interesting. Unfortunately, far too many great buildings/institutions have been demolished for the want of progress (?). I worked at the A.W Allen Confectionery Company, and note that this bluestone building, plus the illuminated signs have been demolished. May I congratulate you on your presentation and knowledge of the Melbourne I used to know. Congratulations, look forward to viewing more of your interesting you tube presentations. Al.
I have just watched several of your videos in succession. I admire your enthusiasm to discover the history of our closed railways. Well done 😊
I've wondered for so long what the Sandridge Bridge was for. Great Video!!
Thanks for a very cool, very niche history lesson. It's fascinating to see how the city has evolved over the last 100 or so years. Keep up the good work man, I look forward to watching more of your content.
This is awesome, great video!
Thank you mate. ill definitely be handing this history down to my children.
Thanks for keeping this history alive,!
I loved the old footage of the train journey. Your videos are excellent.
Realy enjoyed the video - keep up the good work
Nice one indeed young fella! When I lived in Melbourne I used to travel over a fair bit of the area you've covered! Well done!
Fascinating. Especially the loop at the end. Many thanks.
No problem, great to hear you enjoyed :)
Great research! well done mate
Great work again!
Another fascinating doco, bloke, and great to see the historical footage incorporated!
Yes, it was awesome to incorporate the footage, great to hear you enjoyed yet another video, thank you!
Well researched and interesting presentation. Thank-you.
Far out, how goods that Clío @0:52! Great research little man! Amazing videos!
As a UK visitor to Melbourne I quickly noticed the reused sections in the tram way. Was interested to know the history. You have saved me a lot of research. Great work.
Good stuff mate, keep up your good work, really enjoying it, and enjoy your school hols.
Thank you cudgee! Happy to hear you're liking the videos, I hope to relax the next 2 weeks with lots of filming!
Nice vid mate. The South Melbourne tram line is one of the rare points where a tram bridge crosses over another tram line, just up near MSAC.
That's very true, never thought of that! I have travelled past that intersection many times, that is cool, wonder how many points in Melbourne have this kind of intersection, glad you enjoyed 🙌
Fantastic content mate, keep it coming. Love it! 😃❤️🇦🇺👍👏
I had a child hood memory from 73 if a dead end single sided station that once I was old enough to visit melbourne from the bush took me some years to find.. It was of course the always wonderful st kilda. I still like to visit st kilda when I get to town and can still picture the station as I roll by in the tram..
That is really cool Mark, thank you for sharing. Sometimes, I have memories of train journeys that I can't remember, but this one is definitely cooler, seeing the station change over time!
I have travelled on both those lines in the Tait trains in the late '70s and early 80s, I'm from Adelaide and just love the VR history, great video, love your style...cheers
Thank you Mark, great to hear I did the lines justice, great to hear you enjoy the videos from interstate!
4:20 Good transition there, a wave of the hand and you're in a new location!
I enjoyed that! Never really thought of rail in Australia. Thank you
This was very good. I liked how you overlayed old footage with the new.
Really interesting. Well researched. Like what you do.
I love the old footage Train Man. I'm a StK resident and a regular 96 commuter, so I particularly enjoyed this one.
I have fond memories of the old run down StK station of the 90s. They've done a great job of revitalising the area since then.
Agreed, other than some graffiti, the line and surrounding area has transitioned to the light rail amazingly, glad you enjoyed the video, thanks!
Congratulations, loving your work, TTM. I enjoy the presentation - you have a great presence, and really informative content.
Thanks again Anthony, you have been busy watching my videos, well done!
Wow. Very informative. Thanks 🙏.
Great job my man! Keep up the videos!
You’ve got a natural talent for presenting. Great video!
Yes, he did a Great job.
Hope to see him turn his talent to other videos about Melbourne.
excellent work train man.
Awesome video! love it, keep up the great work Train Man !!!
Cheers Jay, I appreciate the support!
Great job! 😉👍
Friend Of Mine Used To Live In St Kilda And Remembers The Train Very Well! Another Friend Remarked As We Got Off At St Kilda Light Rail Stop Where The Railway Station Once Was That Young People Of Today Would Have No Idea That There Was Once A Railway Station Here! Hoping Your Videos Can Educate Them! 🙂🏚️🛤️🚇🚃🚃🚃🏖️🌅🎢
Great content man !! Keep it up
Yet another excellent, informative and entertaining video, thanks.
Thanks again Stephen, glad you enjoyed another one :)
Great video! Very interesting
Fantastic video, great learn about my suburb history
Glad you liked it John. Thanks for watching :)
Wow! there was a train bridge to Windsor? Been catching the 96 forever and apart from knowing it was once a train line knew nothing of its heritage, thanks train man for making this (and maybe some algorithm because I didn’t know I wanted to see this stuff!) keep it up 👍
Also Thanks For Mentioning The St Kilda To Brighton Tramline Got A Booklet About It There's Also A DVD On It Too!🙂🚊🚋🏖️⛱️🌅
Excellent video again. Well done
Thanks again! Glad you enjoyed.
I remember riding this train to go to the dentist in Albert park in the 70s
A ritual every Saturday morning was a visit to South Melbourne Markets to do the shopping, my aunt and I would travel from Albion to Spencer Street then jump on what was usually a Tait set for the markets, I always got 20 cents to spend on a bag of mixed "gogs" (lollies). Melbourne in the 60's and 70's was great! The graffiti is the worst I have seen for an Australian city, no one seems to care about its removal. Great video Max, well done, very informative.
Hey there young feller, i just stumbled upon your site and subed immediately. I was looking up old abandoned railway lines in Melbourne cause i have an idea and ive always been a huge fan of trains. I used to catch the St Kilda train quite regularly and it always was a old red rattler in the mid to late1970s as a young teenager with a hip flask of wiskey in my back pocket to go the pinball parlour on Fitzroy st were it bends around the corner, i was a regular there, and also again in the 80s and it was still a red rattler. I recognised the author of the video as being a, how do i say as a part of my brand, so to speak, no what i mean.Lol I had to laugh at the fumbles as i suffer from extreme dislexia, occasional stutter and now recently diagnosed with autism at 58 yrs old. Im sorry though i couldnt pin point out the acompalice, will have to re check the pose. Lol. Cheers from Dave PS. I can see a friend of mine but fairly recently Rob from St Albans and Tony Tripp my X girlfriends father which is kinda wierd, so Stella then, does that mean y
Thank You -That was really helpful and informative.
glad you thought so :)
Thanks for this man. I didn't know about this
Really interesting...thanks
St Kilda Station had 3 platforms, not just one. Go back and have another look. Platform 1 was outside the booking office and waiting room, which you can still see, then there were two tracks, then an island containing Platforms 2 and 3, then another track. The two-track part has been filled in, but you can still see the bluestone edges at both sides.
Cool video mate well done
wow. some very intresting information. thanks for researching it bud
TM, great shot of an Hitachi complete with center doorway @ 0:34!!!!
Macleod station has a branch off that went to Mont Park,could be interesting.
Very much so! I did a little research on it a few months ago, I have never been but I will definitely do a video on it eventually, hope you enjoyed :)
I used to walk on sandridge bridge when my mum worked in the city, I had no idea it was once used by trains
G'day Train Man! Good to see you back. I've noticed that you haven't ventured west yet. I'm sure this is because you are savouring some of the immense history involved with this side of town - such as Newport Train Yards! We'd love to see you do a video about the Williamstown Line!
You hit the nail on the head haha, Williamstown video coming in the next week or two, I have filmed it already!
Hey Max - nice info! Though I think a bit of footage about the VR Antiquities store and further explanation of what VR means would have added variety and interest.
Thanks for the feedback Peter, for future video, I will make sure all is clear and explained!
My grandparents lived along this line in the 80's - 90's, they really welcomed the light-rail because the train would shake the windows, very noticeably at night
Haha, never thought of that, glad they were happy for the conversion. Even though it was such a historic line, I believe it is more suited to a light rail, tram service. Thanks!
@@thetrainman548 Not everyone welcomed it since, unlike the trains, the trams they initially used were not wheelchair accessible.
That's very true, it is good to see wheelchair friendly trams on the St Kilda and Port Melbourne lines nowadays
Many train lines should have sound barriers like freeways have near residential areas. (Or Well designed Skyrail, cuttings or tunnels.)
@@thetrainman548 Yes, being such a short line, it had to become a light rail. It's a pity it was never extended under Fitzroy st. or along the tram line, and onto Rowville (I know pipe dreams). It would have been an excellent feed (along with Port Mel-b'n) to a tunnel under Flinders st.
Cool videos and you sound cheeky
Another interesting video with a lot of history. The St Kilda signal box was switched in to stable trains in the yard. When it was switched out the points and signals were operated automatically. This was one of the first automatic operations on the VR.
Wow, the signal switching sounds interesting, I didn't know about that! Glad you enjoyed another video :)
I remeber getting off that station before lightrail.
Very jealous, it must have been a cool experience looking back at it now!
A haircut between the main video and the outro! Nice cut Train Man and awesome video as usual!
Thanks Adam, needed the trim badly, glad you like it haha.
Excellent excellent excellent. Please add more history of train lines around Melbourne
Will do! Still lots more lines to go, glad you enjoyed this video😊
I'll second that: excellent excellent excellent. Never knew about the loop though.
*From someone who's travelled on both trains way back then*
it good to see you again
You too Eddy, hope you enjoyed!
Very surprised to see an actual young person living in 2021 that has so much interest in Melbourne's history.
I just learnt something from this video i did not even notice when crossing the bridge at Southbank.
The old train bridge with a list of all the countries people who have decided to call Melbourne there new home.
Great vid
I went on the first bridge on a school trip has no idea it was part of this
Happy to hear you enjoyed and glad I could teach you something :)
great video as always my dude! keep it up :D
Great to hear from you again, happy to hear you enjoyed another video😊
On St.Kilda line you could buy a combined train & bus ticket, at least back as far as the 1960's (multi-modal !)
Another great video! Very very informative, and you're so good on your retelling of history.
I try to not overcomplicate the history so anyone watching can understand, regardless of prior knowledge, awesome to hear you enjoy the style, thanks again David 😀
Good to see young soul interested in the Euroa network enjoying some PR work and some MC work on the subject maybe there's a job for you in television
Hell yeah! I'm working on a school project on this line, and this helped me alot!
Also, here's a sugeestion: Do a Secrets Of the Mernda Line video. My uncle helped build the new line.
Glad I could help you! Mernda Line will be done shortly, awesome to hear your relative helped extend the line!
@@thetrainman548 If you look carefully you'll see old platforms. Will you go all the way to Whittlesea ? that's where the the line originally terminated.
TrainMan, in the 70’s and early 80’s we would catch a connecting bus from St Kilda station to Elwood. It was really busy during peak times. It might have been the 601 route operated by Melbourne- Brighton bus line. It’s a bus and not a train, but I wonder whether you could weave in a story about this bus company? Your channel is truly interesting and you’re a bright light in this currently tumultuous world. Thanks for the entertainment including the funny bits. Cheers mate.
Ben, i can go back before then. Up untill the late 50's you could catch a tram from St.Kilda station to Brighton beach. It went up Grey st., down Barkly st, turned into the Broadway, went down the Broadway to Ormond rd, then down to St.Kilda st, into St.Kilda st down to Beach rd to Brighton Beach station. The Elwood tram depot was on the corner of Beach rd and Head st, where a huge apartment complex is currently being built.
Haha thank you Ben, I know I am The Train Man, but I do hope to move into trams and buses in the future. I will keep your comment in mind for the future, especially a cool video on this bus, thanks!
Thanks for the extra information cudgee :)
I remember there used to be a terminal next to Elsternwick park
Good job.
Went On The St Kilda Railway Line A Few Times In 1986 The Year Before It Closed Usually Got Off At South Melbourne Albert Park And Occasionally St Kilda!🙂🚇🚃🚃🚃🛤️🌉🏖️🌅🎢
Do a video on that one closed down station going towards Frankston. It’s a little bit ways before the flinders station and it’s pretty small, just one platform. I’ve always wanted to know the history behind it
Brilliant again mate 🤣 Nice haircut too 😄
Glad you like the video, and the haircut aha
That transition 👌
I do love my transitions :)
Good job mate
Thank you, glad you enjoyed!
Great vid
Thank you Adrian, appreciate the support :)
Another awesome vid! I love the old bridge, I've been over it a lot and didn't even realise it was a rail bridge until a few months ago. I also wanted to ask if you had discord, and if so what is it?
I don't actually have discord :( never really used it, sorry haha. Glad you enjoyed the video though.
Cool dude i liked it as usual.
Thanks a lot, great to hear that you enjoyed!
We used to catch this train to go to the lake and catch yabbies, and to Stkilda to go to Luna Park or the beach
That's awesome, hope I did a line that is clearly close to you, justice in the video!
That was excellent. Can you link to the original footage you had of the trains eye view of the line?
I believe it's in the description. Really cool stuff! The same guy has one for the Port Melbourne line too!
As a very little boy I remember my grandmother taking me and my brother to see her Aunt who lived at Middle Park. Was probably 1964/65. At that point the trains that served the line where the "dog box" Tait carriages. Not sure when they stopped using those carriages but they where quite an experience.
Thank you for sharing your story Ross, very jealous of your time with Tait trains, I'm still yet to see one in person :(. Hope you enjoyed the video, the line was obviously close to you.
@@thetrainman548 Actually that journey to Middle Park started at Jordanville as we lived at Mt Waverley and our house was directly opposite the rail line. We would have caught a regular Tait train or if we were lucky a newer Harris train. Or as we called them in those days a red or a blue train!
Haha, my journeys for these videos currently start at Mount Waverley, cool to hear about the Red, Blue trains, must've have been fun to wait for which one you got!
you could do a special about Flinders street station...
Hahahaha, first person to mention it, it was meant to be a secret! I hope to have a great video out in next couple of videos!
@@thetrainman548 Many memories of Flinders street ..
wow your growing fast
Looking good! I hope to keep the videos coming.
What’s with the construction in south Melbourne and Albert park (from the drivers view)