How I learned the anklemotion - Swinging the pedal only with your calf - Tama Speed Cobra

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
  • What's up everyone!
    Take note: Im not saying the first method is WRONG. Im just saying it didnt help me out as I would've wanted to! Im sure some people would benefit from doing it.

Komentáře • 91

  • @matrixmodulator
    @matrixmodulator Před rokem +48

    THIS is what all the drummer videos should talk about, i did the exact same thing as you and lost so much time. I practice like you explain afterwards since 2 days now and it's 100000% easier.

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před rokem +5

      Glad to hear it! I lost about 4-5 months (I think) cuz I just wasnt getting the motion right.
      Now finally Im progressing!

    • @matrixmodulator
      @matrixmodulator Před rokem +4

      @@SamiK1989 thats nice, i lost a couple years lmfao

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před rokem +2

      @@matrixmodulator Damn sorry to hear that 😂😅

    • @king-manu2758
      @king-manu2758 Před rokem +5

      I've lost two years. However not because I wasn't practicing the right technique, because my right ankle for some reason wasn't flexible at all and it struggled when trying to lift the heel. It still does but now it's getting better. Left one naturally can do this super easily. I curse the gods for whatever issue my right ankle has.

    • @Adailton020
      @Adailton020 Před 6 měsíci

      O meu tornozelo tem feito um pequeno som toda vez que uso minha panturrilha para levantar, mas está diminuindo aos poucos​@@king-manu2758

  • @gringochucha
    @gringochucha Před měsícem +3

    Yep, this is exactly where I'm at now too. But for me the game changer was taking the springs off and learning to get the beater to bounce back with only my ankle/calves. It's how I start every practice session now. It's super frustrating at first, but as your control gets better you can even play some double bass stuff like that. Then when you put the springs back on your technique is on point and after a while you'll really notice how much stronger you feel playing.
    It's absolutely brutal on the lower leg muscles though so you gotta warm up properly and be careful not to overdo it.

  • @heartbeatsdrum
    @heartbeatsdrum Před 10 měsíci +13

    I'll have to try it this way. After over 20 years of playing, one of the most important things I've learned is when trying new techniques, it has almost everything to do simply with the way you think about it.

  • @VLDrummer
    @VLDrummer Před 11 měsíci +7

    Same. So much wasted time and frustrations, and now significant progress with this method. I glad people on YT starts talk more about it, not even all drum teachers know this mechanics (but know how to take money for useless lessons). I also noticed trainings for endurance work really well when performed with proper technique when you can control your muscles. For some reasons even Thomas Lang explain foot technique as you presented first and which doesn't work for us. Maybe just because we not TL's lol
    I also think what we do here - is first step. And after master it we can use another groups of muscles in controled manner for fine tuning of the motion in the various tempos to not relly entire on pedal mechanics and gain better control for uncontinuos notes groups. But this is just assumption.

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Very Well said there mate!

  • @reezlaw
    @reezlaw Před 10 měsíci +4

    I think that this is more useful than 10000 words from other, more famous channels (no offence to anyone)

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před 10 měsíci +2

      Damn that means alot to me! Im no PRO when it comes to this. I just wanted to share my own experience. Thanks dude!

  • @matenorth
    @matenorth Před 8 měsíci +2

    Yes. I 've spent 15 years using the first motion, i now play at 240 constant notes since switched to the ankle teqnique.

  • @DEMONPLAGUE
    @DEMONPLAGUE Před 6 dny +1

    Thanks for the info. Love videos like this.

  • @arnoudvandegriend7679
    @arnoudvandegriend7679 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Great explanation!
    For years I could play relaxed ankle motion from the shin (like your first example, lifting the foot and tapping down). But for some reason I lost the control and it frustrated the hell out of me.
    Then I tried the same thing you did. It took some time, but suddenly I got the hang of it. I use it from 140 bpm onward.
    Nowadays it saves me a lot of energy in my playing. Especialy during gigs. Brings back a lot of joy in my playing again.
    Calves ftw!

  • @DarkBasementDrummer
    @DarkBasementDrummer Před 9 měsíci +2

    Cool. 100%. When something isn’t working, think about the mechanics differently. Beyond that, think about groups of strokes in different ways as well.

  • @Next2TheMoon
    @Next2TheMoon Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great vid!!! Thanks!! I struggle with the same thing, I'm going to start working on this.

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Thanks for your comment! Good luck and Please have patience! Im currently struggling alot with 190-200bpm tempo area.. 😰

  • @krisztianfarkas7068
    @krisztianfarkas7068 Před rokem +2

    I'm still learning but I think leg motion involves moving the whole leg, while ankle motion uses only the ankle. Placing the foot too far back on the pedal makes it harder to control, that might be the reason why you were struggling. I use leg motion below the natural speed of the pedal and ankle motion above.
    James Payne has some nice videos on this topic, I think those are really helpful. Or at least to me, basically I just practice what he says and so far it's been working.

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for your comment! Have you looked at my newest videos? I’ve developed alot and having my foot far back on the pedal was a great way (atleast for ME) to get the beaters swinging at 140bpm with only my ankles.
      If I tried to move the feet up on the pedals, I would just start twitching and speed up without any control.
      Yeah I’ve watched alot of James videos. I like his videos 🧠✍🏻

  • @Mike_Savin
    @Mike_Savin Před 5 měsíci +1

    I use the exact same technique, and it works for me.

  • @richd7258
    @richd7258 Před 5 měsíci +1

    That was a great example, nice job

  • @jchope777
    @jchope777 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I'll try this 👍🏻 Thanks!

  • @NordicBlueprint
    @NordicBlueprint Před měsícem +1

    I dont even play drums but I find it intriguing somehow

  • @Underdrummer
    @Underdrummer Před 5 měsíci +1

    So many drum videos never say this!

  • @hellhammer2005
    @hellhammer2005 Před 8 měsíci +1

    very nice demonstration! i just have a question regarding that, im trying to learn the ankle motion for a while now but when i try to do it like you explained i get a slight feel but my feet then just speed up and i feel like i cant control the speed, only the loudness of the strokes. it looks very similar when you play the ankle motion right so at the moment i dont know if im doing it right or completely wrong

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před 8 měsíci

      Make sure you are using loose springtension, it helps! Learning this takes ALOT of time and patience. It's pretty normal that your feet start to speed up and you dont have any control. Once your muscle-memory has developed enough, you will start to gain a basic control over the pedals.

  • @_DNA.
    @_DNA. Před rokem +1

    This is the method that i use and starting from far back the pedal is key for this method,you dont even need to hit the beaters to the kick drum at the beggining,just digesting the motion and then apply normaly.Great vid,cheers!

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před rokem

      I totally agree with you! Thanks mate!

  • @shatteredstiks7392
    @shatteredstiks7392 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I've been song derek roddy exercise practicing the blast beat slow for 10 minutes endurance.

  • @dmitrysokolousky7109
    @dmitrysokolousky7109 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Hey^ thanks for the video. One small question - what sticker did you use for pedal?

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před 6 měsíci +1

      Hi! Thanks. I used normal griptape.

  • @francisfernandezcappola

    Querque buy the Dyna-Sync. Forget about the speed cobra, if you have the right technique your feet will fly. Congrats on the excellent work.

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před rokem

      Hi! Im very satisfied with my Speedcobra and I’ve gotten really good progress with the anklemotion. I also bought a direct drive upgrade to my Speedcobras and they feel awesome! 😊

    • @francisfernandezcappola
      @francisfernandezcappola Před rokem +1

      @@SamiK1989 now that's talking. Congrats man

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před rokem

      @@francisfernandezcappola Thanks!

    • @mdoucette45
      @mdoucette45 Před 11 měsíci

      @@SamiK1989hey! What did you get? I have the Iron Cobra 900 Powerglide and am working on this technique too. Strongly considering direct drive pedals, but like most people, it’s hard to try before you buy!

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před 11 měsíci

      @@mdoucette45 I still have the same Tama Speed cobras. I love them!

  • @nickfantoni5576
    @nickfantoni5576 Před 15 dny

    Could you send the link on the practice pad you’re using ? Thanks

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před 15 dny

      Sure mate -> footblaster.com/footblaster-kickpad/

    • @nickfantoni5576
      @nickfantoni5576 Před 14 dny +1

      @@SamiK1989 appreciate you 👍

  • @Alexdrummer09
    @Alexdrummer09 Před rokem +2

    I want to advise you to do some tricks to develop the technique you are aiming for. 1 Heels down ankle (ankle fully rests on footboard) 2.Heels up, ankle (you only play with your ankle) 3.Heel up, full leg (you play with your whole leg) 4.Heels up ankle/leg (you alternate ankle kick and leg kick)
    if interested, I can write what exercise and how much to do.Тested on my own experience, it works

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před rokem +1

      Thank you! But I’ve progressed very much since this video and I have the technique nailed down already.

    • @Alexdrummer09
      @Alexdrummer09 Před rokem +1

      @@SamiK1989 wow cool!!If not a secret, what kind of technique is this?

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před rokem +2

      @@Alexdrummer09 This is the ankletechnique.

  • @jimboscustoms
    @jimboscustoms Před 9 měsíci +1

    Loose spring tension help for this?

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před 9 měsíci

      Yes! I started out with LOOSE tension in the beginning. Watch my other video on learning the ankletechnique!

  • @DrBa2083
    @DrBa2083 Před 9 měsíci +1

    what shaft do you use? where to get it? Thanks

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před 9 měsíci

      Im using ACD driveshaft. Google for ACD Unlimited!

  • @ethosguerrero
    @ethosguerrero Před 9 měsíci +1

    Exelent

  • @vinceengelhard8607
    @vinceengelhard8607 Před 9 měsíci +1

    What shoes are those, and how do they feel when playing?

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Uhm I cant remember what Nike model those were 😅They feel… normal?

  • @yeetwitch1348
    @yeetwitch1348 Před 9 měsíci

    Is it normal to feel it burning in the muscles right above the knee? i've been trying this for an hour know and got such a hard time getting the motion down

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před 9 měsíci

      Your quads are not ment to be working in this technique.
      Check that you have loose springtension, practice first on the floor (Lifting your heel) and also check that your drumthrone is not too high or Low.
      Developing this technique takes A LONG time, you will not get it correctly in a couple of hours.

  • @sarcasticguy4311
    @sarcasticguy4311 Před 8 měsíci +1

    This is interesting but after 35 years I've decided that nothing beats toes far up on the pedal. Don't use your whole foot, just toes. I also keep the beater up against the bass. Took me years to learn this instead of whole foot on the pedal and letting it swing. It's easier on your muscles especially when you're playing for four straight hours. Takes time to dial in the perfect amount of tension. Too tight and you work too hard. Too loose and the beater hits you in the leg.

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před 8 měsíci

      I think I know what you mean.
      But if someone is at the beginning phase when learning the anklemotion I would NOT recommend to place your toes high up on the pedalboard.
      Placing your feet high up on the pedalboard makes the pedal more sensitive = Makes you have less control since your motor functions are not developed yet = Makes you twitch/spasm out without any control.
      If I play Lets say 110bpm or 120bpm I always Use full leg but I never need to place my feet high up on the pedal. It just makes the balance/control a little bit harder.
      This is just my opinion 😊✌🏻Anyways Thanks for your comment!

    • @sarcasticguy4311
      @sarcasticguy4311 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@SamiK1989 Agreed. I wouldn't recommend toes at the front when learning but over time you realize there's a speed and response issue that can't be overcome by putting the whole foot on the pedal. Of course, you also don't start out as an expert. These things take time to get comfortable with.

  • @srujanaithal5001
    @srujanaithal5001 Před rokem +1

    Isn't the main muscle used in ankle motion the tibialis anterior tho? Could you try the motion and check if it's contracting?

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před rokem +1

      The tibialis anterior is not the main muscle used in anklemotion. It stays relaxed the whole time.

  • @patozverky3153
    @patozverky3153 Před 11 dny

    what the shafts u have ?

  • @Inflame5
    @Inflame5 Před rokem +1

    yes, but it is still not fast enough. Did you get faster with this?

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před rokem +1

      Check my newer videos 😏

    • @Inflame5
      @Inflame5 Před rokem +1

      @@SamiK1989 i tried this today but that is what I always did. Still not going much over 130 bpm.

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před rokem +1

      @@Inflame5 Have patience. Also make sure you dont have max springtension. It takes alot of time to develop the anklemotion.

    • @Inflame5
      @Inflame5 Před rokem +1

      @@SamiK1989 I play drums for over 22 years now. I have tried all methods

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před rokem +2

      @@Inflame5 Join my group on Facebook ”Beginner to advanced ankle technique double bass”

  • @fabifiren666
    @fabifiren666 Před 11 měsíci +2

    How high is your spring tension? It seems veeery low

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před 11 měsíci +1

      It was very loose when I recorded this video. Now I have medium springtension.

    • @fabifiren666
      @fabifiren666 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@SamiK1989 thanks, i try it out!

  • @user-zu1rb2vy6t
    @user-zu1rb2vy6t Před 6 měsíci +2

    J'aimdiun🦵🦵🥳😍🥰

  • @dcmastermindfirst9418
    @dcmastermindfirst9418 Před rokem +6

    That pedal needs oil

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před rokem +6

      Dont worry I already took care of it

    • @dcmastermindfirst9418
      @dcmastermindfirst9418 Před rokem +1

      @@SamiK1989 Good man.

    • @JirForce
      @JirForce Před 9 měsíci

      I just bought a new Speed Cobra and the chain sounded the same LOL I think they didn't put enough oil on it from the factory. It can sound horrible! This is why i'm going to convert it to direct drive.

  • @thomasnappo6309
    @thomasnappo6309 Před 11 měsíci +1

    The twitch..nerve playing..you have no control over.

  • @ampegloud
    @ampegloud Před rokem

    You don’t need to go through all that nonsense just get triggers for your bass drums and be done with it. That’ll take care of everything that’s what the pros use.

  • @Shrebina-kq4cs
    @Shrebina-kq4cs Před 6 měsíci

    both done wrong

  • @simonezangari1306
    @simonezangari1306 Před 11 měsíci

    Completely wrong..thats no ankle motion….thats full leg

    • @SamiK1989
      @SamiK1989  Před 11 měsíci

      Nope this is not full-leg. Im only using my ankle 🤣