4 - Spare Shooting

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  • čas přidán 5. 04. 2014

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  • @LarryManiccia
    @LarryManiccia Před 2 lety +4

    This video does a much better job of getting into the details of what arrow to aim for after you move your feet than some off the others I've watched. Other videos tell you where to move your feet, but did a terrible job telling you how to adjust what arrow you would then aim for. Thanks for this detailed explanation!

  • @subibowler
    @subibowler Před 9 lety +11

    This spare system is a starting point. As another person said, experiment to see what really works for you as a bowler. The issue that I have though with this video is they do NOT talk about throwing the ball straight at these spares and where you would adjust to, to do that. For both right and left handed players, if they hook their ball at spares I am suggesting a plastic ball for the 6/10 for a right hander and the 4/7 for the left hander, the other spares you need to adjust accordingly to where the friction is on the lane. For people like myself who can throw a ball pretty straight despite it being a reactive ball, we have the choice to pick either a plastic, urethane or one of the regular reactive balls for our spares.

  • @bluestraveler50
    @bluestraveler50 Před 8 lety +15

    This was the most helpful video I've ever watched. Thank you. I always wanted to know a method in spare shooting and I have been playing for years and have missed a lot more spares than I should have. This will help a lot

  • @dj_demolishaa6829
    @dj_demolishaa6829 Před 8 lety +4

    To simplify, I was taught this too, and I call it the 369, and it deserves the name. You make a first ball shot, but for a righty you get the 3 and lefty the two. What you do is move 3 boards in the opposite direction of your bowling hand, so move left for right handed bowlers and vice versa. The thing about this method is that there are 4 rows of pins so the memorization is pretty easy. If you have the headpin or it plus a row behind it, keep your first ball mark and position. If you get the 2nd row (2-3), move 3 boards in the opposite direction of your bowling hand. If you get the 3rd row (4-6), move 6 boards and aim at the pin, adjusting for hook if you can't throw it straight. If you get the 7-10 row, move 9 boards and aim at the pin and adjust for hook. But, if you get a corner pin (7/10), it is HIGHLY recommended to throw it straight. If you can't, get a plastic ball because it makes the corners SO much easier.

  • @emanueladavis1885
    @emanueladavis1885 Před 6 lety +3

    Finally a video that actually shows you everything you need to spare....been looking for two weeks for something like this....awesome, thank you so much.

  • @danielvickery
    @danielvickery Před rokem +2

    When I was coaching high school level in the 1990's I used the 3-6-9 system and it worked well. I also used the arrows as my sight finders. Now that I am older I use the dots which are much closer [my eyesight isn't as good as it once was]. Unfortunately this system does NOT work as well with the dots [3-5-8-11-14 boards] as they are too close to the bowler and the angles do NOT work out the same way. Also, as I have gotten older I use a more reactive ball to pick up my left side spares [I am RH and use my strike ball to do so] BUT change to a less reactive plastic ball for right side spares to reduce hook except for double wood 3-9 spare. Thus parts of this system will work for you and parts won't. The length of the oil pattern and how the oil is pushed down and 'soaked' up by the reactive balls will play a great deal with spares as well... causing spares misses by 1/4 inch which happen often. Notice the date of the video is 2014... much of this will get you in the 'ballpark' BUT with new oil patterns and ball technology this will not be able to be taken as gospel... you will need to tweak to fit your own needs.

  • @llwat1057
    @llwat1057 Před 2 lety +2

    You made this extremely clear. Thanks

  • @hardhead5834
    @hardhead5834 Před 6 lety +1

    I use the same ball to strike and spare. This video is very helpful. Thanks

  • @skfboiler
    @skfboiler Před 7 lety +1

    I have to say, the other day I tried this system of picking up spares and dog gone it works. The only time I did not pick up a spare is when I did not aim correctly and missed the target. Aiming is another aspect in bowling I need to work on.

  • @donreinholz8121
    @donreinholz8121 Před 2 lety +1

    This is good info for different players on the approach.

  • @CraftyVegetarian13
    @CraftyVegetarian13 Před 8 lety +22

    Alrighty, just wanted to get this straight:
    To pickup pins to the left (2-4-7) move 3 boards to the right from each respective pin (2 pin=3 boards, 4 pin= 6 boards, 7 pin= 9 boards) and target board changes only half an arrow to the left of target board (~2.5 boards).
    To pickup pins to the right (3-6-10) move 4 boards to the left from each respective pin (3 pin= 4 boards, 6 pin = 8 boards, 10 pin = 12 boards) and target changes half an arrow to the left from each respective pin (3 pin = half arrow, 6 pin = full arrow, 10 pin = one and half arrows).

    • @markivanov2593
      @markivanov2593 Před 6 lety

      Best explanation!

    • @oliviajae298
      @oliviajae298 Před 5 lety +1

      I'm not going to be able to remember this, but thank you for writing it out. I will screenshot it and refer to it. Thanks!!

    • @hugomora2203
      @hugomora2203 Před 3 lety

      You must be a lefty !!! Or you did not understand the Spare System :)

    • @CraftyVegetarian13
      @CraftyVegetarian13 Před 3 lety

      @@hugomora2203 Had to check this video out again after so long after re-joining league. But I think I got it right (I’m right handed) and it works perfect for me :)

  • @garybell8911
    @garybell8911 Před 2 lety +1

    Most helpful video very good tips I will have to work on !!

  • @stevekeller3643
    @stevekeller3643 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you- I really needed that as my spare game has really deteriorated.
    Question- what if, for your strike ball, you spot off the range finders ?

  • @michaelgallucci4085
    @michaelgallucci4085 Před rokem +1

    This was a good video and explanation. What would have made it perfect was you to show the southpaw view. The use of two bowlers -one right handed and one left handed- would have made this excellent

  • @javierhdez660
    @javierhdez660 Před 8 lety +4

    it's a great video. I can show to my youth league. it makes me a better coach. go Fresno bulldogs

  • @rr2418
    @rr2418 Před 2 lety +1

    What most instructional videos never say is whether or not you suppose to walk straight up the boards when shooting at the 10 pin. In other words, if your left foot is on board 39 at the start, are you suppose to end up on board 39 at the foul line?

  • @khairunnisaazri4359
    @khairunnisaazri4359 Před 7 lety +2

    this is helpful! thanks for this video!

  • @JAHISRAEL
    @JAHISRAEL Před 7 lety +1

    I made a 7 - 10 split when I was 13 years old and still have that bowling ball (I will be 59 this month) and making spares seemed to be easy.......should have stuck to bowling......now all the ally's are gone where I live and I even own a pin-set part of a lane that is now gone.

  • @jasonlovi8745
    @jasonlovi8745 Před 3 lety +1

    Does the approach stay the same or is it angled towards the arrow?

  • @danambrus5298
    @danambrus5298 Před 2 lety +1

    Two questions. 1. Would I use my plactic ball for all the right side spares?
    2. As the lanes break down and my strike zone changes, will my new spare shots reset from the new strike zone?
    Thank you

  • @toho28
    @toho28 Před 3 lety +2

    On the 7 pin spare, I notice that Brian's feet appear to drift left several boards from starting position. Doesn't that change the equation?

  • @Accumulator1
    @Accumulator1 Před 7 lety +1

    If using a 15-16 lb ball for first shot, would it be better to use a ball of less weight if using another with less hook? How much less?

  • @ns671fr
    @ns671fr Před 5 měsíci +1

    It all depends on your roll and lane conditions or what ball youre using. These are good fundamentals but wont always work for every bowler.

    • @peteg475
      @peteg475 Před 4 měsíci

      Works pretty well on House oil in League. I agree for other patterns or more difficult conditions, different adjustments will be necessary.

    • @ns671fr
      @ns671fr Před 4 měsíci

      @@peteg475 I always go with read the oil conditions and bowl accordingly.

    • @peteg475
      @peteg475 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ns671fr Yeah, fair enough. My league is pretty consistent with how my shot reacts to the oil, and this system works very well for me with only minor tweaks. I still will shoot straight at the 10.

    • @ns671fr
      @ns671fr Před 4 měsíci

      @@peteg475 nice our alleys follow pba conditions which makes it tough I have never seen house oil on all my leagues thus season.

  • @jrmunroe4024
    @jrmunroe4024 Před 5 lety +1

    this is great!!!

  • @DouglasGardnerTV
    @DouglasGardnerTV Před 8 lety +26

    Showing new bowlers how to pick up corner pins by hooking it? Why? You get on a short pattern and you try to do that, you'll miss every time. Just throw it straight at corner pins, no error possible if you're throwing straight at it

    • @deshawnferguson1
      @deshawnferguson1 Před 7 lety +3

      most coaches actually hate people that hook while shooting spares

    • @virginiamartin3900
      @virginiamartin3900 Před 7 lety +1

      Douglas Gardner

    • @virginiamartin3900
      @virginiamartin3900 Před 7 lety

      Douglas Gardner

    • @steveniemyer9288
      @steveniemyer9288 Před 6 lety +1

      You still have to line your feet up and hit the arrow even if you throw straight. Also you want your release to be the same every time-hence the reason they mention the benefits of a spare ball for the 10 pin, because it doesn't hook as much and you can keep your release the same.

    • @johnbanfield6900
      @johnbanfield6900 Před 6 lety +2

      I was thinking the same thing. You have to know how to use the spare ball if you play sport patterns.

  • @tleav61
    @tleav61 Před 5 lety +1

    Gee whiz, a lot of stuff to remember, and a heck of a lot of science to remember.

  • @joemattox1412
    @joemattox1412 Před rokem

    You should show more lefthanded bowler tips

  • @luap2353
    @luap2353 Před rokem

    They should call it the 3-6-9-move-your-eyes-a-half-arrow-left--regardless-of-zone-unless-it-is-zone-5-6-7-in-which-case-you-move 4-8-12-and-your-eyes-a-half-arrow-left-for-each-zone system.

  • @derekt8731
    @derekt8731 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you for sharing this video, it totally helped with my spare pick ups.

  • @RayFergII
    @RayFergII Před 7 měsíci

    Is it necessary to slide? Because I am unable to make the slide happen in my approach.

  • @toddscott4881
    @toddscott4881 Před rokem +1

    So is it just opposite if your left handed?

  • @kvdgadj
    @kvdgadj Před rokem +1

    Can you do this with a straight ball? What happen if there only five dots.

  • @JAHISRAEL
    @JAHISRAEL Před 7 lety +1

    BTW how about rolling the ball in a straight line on the spares instead of hoping it curves into those pins?

    • @cheddarbob7095
      @cheddarbob7095 Před 7 lety

      Nikola Tesla because those balls hook by themselves and they don't go straight

    • @CurtisL8.3066
      @CurtisL8.3066 Před 5 lety

      Unless you’re on a pattern that has 50 ft of oil or has 30ft of oil. Then you need plastic to make those moves

  • @nathandelapaz
    @nathandelapaz Před 6 lety +1

    When you use this 3-6-9 system, shall I use the plastic spare ball or my strike ball?

    • @jayvallandingham2406
      @jayvallandingham2406 Před 5 lety +1

      If you have sleeper pins is best to use a hook ball everything else use plastic:-)

  • @MrZocor
    @MrZocor Před 7 lety +4

    when he says stand on the 11 board, with what foot is he talking about . The left or the right one.?

  • @jamesmoglia1258
    @jamesmoglia1258 Před 10 měsíci

    Can you show me this 1to 7 technique left handed it hard to figure it out. I am left handed,not right handed. I would appreciate it. Thank you.

  • @dannyayers6561
    @dannyayers6561 Před 9 lety +3

    I've wondered who created these spare systems?

    • @MTSpade
      @MTSpade Před 8 lety +1

      +Danny Ayers Professionals who know bowling maybe?

    • @AltCTRLF8
      @AltCTRLF8 Před 7 lety +6

      ancient aliens

  • @axleycollier1275
    @axleycollier1275 Před rokem

    Why does this only shows right handed bowlers?

  • @pgaloom
    @pgaloom Před 8 lety +5

    May be a good idea to note how far these bowlers drift...some are substantial. If a bowler does not drift at all, this method is not very efficient.

  • @almerc1
    @almerc1 Před 2 měsíci

    Will this same system work if I use the dots instead of the arrows?

  • @hobbymaster28
    @hobbymaster28 Před 8 lety +6

    Easy... Angle your feet so that they face the pin/area you are trying to aim fore and just throw your spare ball without even thinking

  • @matthewruch6428
    @matthewruch6428 Před 9 lety +8

    Why don't they explain this technique for left handed bowlers?

    • @Falkjar
      @Falkjar Před 8 lety +6

      +Matthew Ruch It should just be the opposite, so instead of 4 left and 3 right, it would be 4 right and 3 left

  • @keymondrobinson331
    @keymondrobinson331 Před 5 lety +1

    BBQ spare ribs

  • @eddiebb52
    @eddiebb52 Před 5 lety +2

    DO THEY HAVE A LEFT HANDED VERSION OF THIS VIDEO ????

    • @jpg7616
      @jpg7616 Před 5 lety

      eddiebb52 ... DO YOU NEED ONE????
      Just reverse the order of the zones... not that hard.
      I.e. for each zone, move 3 boards LEFT to shoot at the 3/6/10 and go 4 boards RIGHT to shoot the 2/4/7 side. Etc.

  • @lizard330033
    @lizard330033 Před 7 lety +4

    That music at 14:53 😩😩 whyy

  • @dmwash85ify
    @dmwash85ify Před 4 lety +1

    😆😆 😆 what is up with the bedroom music at 14:50 😆

  • @angrywally4087
    @angrywally4087 Před 4 lety

    spares are hard for me

  • @weadley
    @weadley Před 9 lety +1

    the are using reactive balls that hook and not spare balls?

    • @weadley
      @weadley Před 9 lety +4

      Ok I got to the part where they recommend spare balls if you feel its hooking too much.

    • @subibowler
      @subibowler Před 9 lety +1

      Charles Waldrop
      If you feel like you can throw the ball straight enough even though it is with your reactive ball, then you might not need a plastic ball for your spares. I personally think by throwing the ball straight at the 4/7 for a left hander and the 6/10 for a right hander, it takes the lane out of play where the friction is. Just something to think about if you haven't.

  • @high2idie716
    @high2idie716 Před 7 lety +1

    what do I do when I have a good game on dry lanes and do bad when the lanes have oil on them??

    • @ginafielding5494
      @ginafielding5494 Před 7 lety

      Eric Duncan story of my life!

    • @CurtisL8.3066
      @CurtisL8.3066 Před 5 lety

      Get you a ball that reads earlier and throw the same shot

    • @LarryManiccia
      @LarryManiccia Před 2 lety

      @@CurtisL8.3066 Better yet buy some sanding pads and put on a 500 or 1000 grit finish on the same ball to get it to hook earlier instead of forking out the cash for a second ball. Adjust the ball surface during practice to match the line you want to throw. That way you can keep a similar line regardless of oil pattern.

    • @CurtisL8.3066
      @CurtisL8.3066 Před 2 lety

      @@LarryManiccia so ruin the laneshine on the ball you do well on dry with? Why not just get a ball designed to hook in oil?

    • @CurtisL8.3066
      @CurtisL8.3066 Před 2 lety

      @@LarryManiccia and I know abralon pads and adjusting surface is essential but if he’s throwing a hyroad with polish, it’s not gonna turn into a hook monster if you put 500 on it. It will help, but the ball will still be clean and react to downlane friction like it is designed to do, it’s just gonna do it 2 feet sooner

  • @TraumaER
    @TraumaER Před 7 lety +1

    My method: Get plastic spare ball and throw a straight ball at the pin. THE END.

  • @fiddlefaddle1
    @fiddlefaddle1 Před 7 lety +6

    Just look up the 3-6-9 right and 4-8-12 left system. It's a hell of a lot easier to remember than this.

    • @weadley
      @weadley Před 7 lety +4

      I believe once they get into it this is a video about the 3-6-9 and 4-8-12 system.

    • @YoungcheolLEE
      @YoungcheolLEE Před 7 lety +1

      Charles Waldrop ㄹ

  • @markofthenorth9512
    @markofthenorth9512 Před 8 lety +7

    There's way too much to remember with this system. I have NEVER encountered a bowler who uses this system. Ever.

    • @brianrjones5405
      @brianrjones5405 Před 7 lety +8

      Nice to meet you

    • @crio2366
      @crio2366 Před 7 lety +5

      Hi how are ya! been using this system for over 30 yrs. Learned it from Fred Borden!

  • @keithwilcox5862
    @keithwilcox5862 Před 4 měsíci

    U guys help me pick up the 6 7 spite lest night cause i i bowl on a League on Sunday nights and it was my frist time picking it up cause i before it would only would over curve or under curve the shot thank u guys

  • @MrZocor
    @MrZocor Před 8 lety +1

    12 boards left from where?

    • @Falkjar
      @Falkjar Před 8 lety

      +MrZocor From center

    • @AmericanSwagster
      @AmericanSwagster Před 8 lety

      from where you typically throw

    • @MrZocor
      @MrZocor Před 8 lety

      +Falkjar Do you put your left foot directly on the line you moving to, or just off to the left? The inside of your left foot.

    • @AmericanSwagster
      @AmericanSwagster Před 8 lety

      +MrZocor okay. let's say you stand 20 and throw 15, but you left a 10 pin. so you would stand 32 and throw 15 for the 10 pin

    • @MrZocor
      @MrZocor Před 8 lety

      Huh? I throw from the center dot, and throw between the second and third arrow. Should your foot be exactly on the dot?

  • @MrZocor
    @MrZocor Před 8 lety +3

    I don't get it!

  • @clutchitup8565
    @clutchitup8565 Před 3 měsíci

    Music is hurendouus

  • @queparkerqp
    @queparkerqp Před 8 lety

    What about for left handed people? What are the movements for them? And please don't say just reverse everything. It would be nice to also have an visual.

    • @luhrenzo
      @luhrenzo Před 8 lety +3

      +Que Parker Well, it literally is the reverse of this. They can't really make another video specifically on left handed bowlers as they don't have any. Just continue to practice!

  • @RamboUnchained
    @RamboUnchained Před 8 lety +5

    Lmao that porn music kicked in rains the 15:00 mark lol

  • @joyceesper4697
    @joyceesper4697 Před 7 lety

    love u tube

  • @tr1x_js413
    @tr1x_js413 Před 8 lety +1

    Dafuq is the left handed spare shooting tips!?

    • @Tex_Yowane
      @Tex_Yowane Před 8 lety +1

      +MCKiller145 just use it but mirrored and it will work just the same, my only problem with this video is that it can be different depending on variables such as sport shot and how the shot has been burned in the front of the lane

  • @keithyoung6375
    @keithyoung6375 Před 9 lety +1

    This is the theory from 25 years ago. Today's balls react differently. Experiment and practice your game.

  • @tomjones2348
    @tomjones2348 Před 4 lety

    Great information. Next video, leave out the off angle B&W camera shots. It's distracting and totally unnecessary for an informational video like this. Oh, and never play background music while the instructors are speaking. A bowling instructor does not have a boom box turned up while giving a lesson.

  • @nathandelapaz
    @nathandelapaz Před 6 lety +1

    When you use this 3-6-9 system, shall I use the plastic spare ball or my strike ball?