Tiffany Talks: College vs. Conservatory

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  • čas přidán 9. 09. 2024

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  • @Grace-pp5ms
    @Grace-pp5ms Před 6 lety +64

    Wanted to study in a conservatory when I was in high school, but due to many reasons that now I am studying in a university. I won't say I'm not disappointed for not being able to study in a conservatory, but now the life in college gives me a lot of different inspirations. I can learn many different things and meet many interesting people.

  • @Andrew-pz8jx
    @Andrew-pz8jx Před 6 lety +14

    I always get asked that too. I auditioned at Berklee College of Music in Boston in 2009 but got rejected. That never broke my passion for piano though! I finished my business degree in '13 and about to finish my MBA this Winter. One thing I learned and always preach from that is an individual can always follow personal passions as long as you are focused. I have been working in the finance industry for 6 years now and still play the piano; that outcome was a natural fit. I believe everyone is different but either way, finding happiness is key!

  • @clamayaceo
    @clamayaceo Před 6 lety +35

    Very well done, very straightforward and honest. It was structured as neutral as it could be given the reality that you are at Columbia, which is an excellent university. Many of my high school friends attended Columbia. I agree with your general statements regarding the difference between conservatory and college-my friends and classmates and those who were learning the piano when we were kids chose their paths using the same criteria that you outlined in your video. Those students who desired more piano and music, my piano teacher assisted them in their applications to a music conservatory and the others who wanted something other than music as primary applied to universities which had a strong music department but also had other departments that suited their primary interest in their majors. I enjoyed this video. I’m definitely recommending any juniors and seniors to watch this. Thanks for taking the time!

  • @PeterSodhi
    @PeterSodhi Před 6 lety +21

    This was excellent even for non music students

  • @anangouda6594
    @anangouda6594 Před 6 lety +8

    I love how you're extremely humble.. People are mostly the opposite of that! Thank you!

  • @mayabewsher6987
    @mayabewsher6987 Před 6 lety +31

    Great video. This is not something I am considering as an adult beginner, but interesting nonetheless. I will be moving to Japan at the end of this year, and can't wait to get a new electric piano. I hope I can continue to improve my playing. That decision is similar to the one I made - stay in England and study Japanese whilst working a job that doesn't particularly interest me , or take the plunge and relocate to further educate myself and thus find a job I would more enjoy. Both options may have the same eventual outcome but a different route.

  • @tombufford136
    @tombufford136 Před rokem

    I have gone back in time watching this video and do know what happens at Juilliard (spelling ?) for Tiffany. Back to reality, very thoughtful Tiffany and many pertinent comments on the differences between large and small institutions. Also your heading, "The school you go to does not decide on what and who you are" Thankyou Tiffany

  • @heyhi6957
    @heyhi6957 Před 6 lety +4

    I just want to say THANK YOU! :)

  • @jacobsmusic4186
    @jacobsmusic4186 Před 6 lety +2

    Well said. You can make time for anything you want to do.
    I also believe in this and hence I am choosing 5 alevels, my fifth being music. Hopefully I can manage my time well and continue to pursue my passion!

  • @modernmozart813
    @modernmozart813 Před 6 lety +31

    ...play music 12 hours per day? I am SO LAZY !!!

    • @tchaffman
      @tchaffman Před 4 lety +4

      Liszt played 12 hours a day

    • @modernmozart813
      @modernmozart813 Před 4 lety +1

      Ted Chaffman Everyday?😂😂

    • @MagdalenaTheremin
      @MagdalenaTheremin Před 4 lety +3

      he didn't have to work..... i'm so jealous.. i have to work every day 8-17... i have not much time left for playing

    • @tchaffman
      @tchaffman Před 4 lety +2

      @@MagdalenaTheremin There's always time if you have the will. At my busiest, I've taken chunks of the time that I would be sleeping and applied it to piano. The question isn't how to have things perfect, it's whether you want something bad enough to take action and make it work within the context of your own reality.
      That's just my two cents ✌️

    • @lavendelle_swift
      @lavendelle_swift Před 4 lety +2

      Me, 30 minutes in weekdays.
      1-3 hours in weekends.

  • @kpunkt.klaviermusik
    @kpunkt.klaviermusik Před 6 lety +1

    Ultimately it's your life - it's not any one else's life. So true!

  • @hkginger
    @hkginger Před 6 lety +2

    Great video, Tiffany! Thank you.

  • @sawj100
    @sawj100 Před 6 lety +5

    I've always ask myself this question! Thank you for sharing your thoughts! :D

  • @PhilipCMusic-io4oh
    @PhilipCMusic-io4oh Před 6 lety +8

    Good thing about college is that you can sneak in the music school as a non music major lol

  • @tamarsamarguliani7031
    @tamarsamarguliani7031 Před 6 lety

    comment or not but I still want to say that you helped me so much. I always wanted to be historian but a couple of months ago I started to think about conservatory . The video you took prooves my opinion and now I'm 100 % sure that I will graduate both - University and conservatory at the same time . Thank you so much 💖

  • @bmba
    @bmba Před 6 lety +3

    Really well spoken video, tbh it’s cool to see your thoughts on these things. I just used your Waltz in C# Minor as a reference for a performance in front of an adjudicator, so your videos are always really awesome resources!!👌 keep it up

  • @domodepiano
    @domodepiano Před 6 lety +4

    good video. honestly conservy or uni for undergrad probably doesn't matter as much , the actual teacher/studio matter much more, there are worldclass musician-instructors quietly being awesome and helping students be awesome at small less Glammy colleges, and for well rounded development a broad undergrad experience has its benefits. once you go for a masters then which school and type can matter more , and even at a university, there are artist diploma programs that model the coursework and experience along lines of a conservatory so one can get a conservatory type experience even at a college. a good track could be BM /BME/BA at a uni w an awesome Instructor , then MM at a conservatory or then either artist diploma at a university. then if one was to to teach, a DMA or go and have a performance career and get courted to be an artist in residence instructor @ a university etc.

  • @walterchin8832
    @walterchin8832 Před 6 lety +1

    Great advise from a student's perspective.

  • @carl2965
    @carl2965 Před 6 lety +1

    Thank you

  • @MichaelKaykov
    @MichaelKaykov Před 6 lety +4

    Rock on, Tiffany 😎😎😎

  • @MetaView7
    @MetaView7 Před 6 lety +3

    Good analysis. YOu are a very smart young woman.

  • @fermart4466
    @fermart4466 Před 6 lety +2

    hi Tiffany, I love your videos. I'm Brazilian, love piano.😗

  • @jaelonmendoza109
    @jaelonmendoza109 Před 6 lety +1

    I’m from the “Southend” or South of Seattle Washington, and a lot of the times I can be surrounded by so much technology and all the I.T., doctors, etc and all the mainstream like careers and music is something I want to do, I really want to go to Juilliard not only just because my music teacher recommended it to me but just by the people who I can end up meeting there which could bring great connections and it’s such an international school. However, I’m still on the zone where my mom at least wants me to be involved with computer science or IT or what ever that has a lot of reliability in terms of paying the bills etc because when I told her I wanted to become a concert pianist, she wanted me to always have a minor to just have that side of reliability. I don’t know anymore because I’m on a path that can bring me forward regardless but I also have a lot of support where I come from that can get my life stable and all. I mean I want to do my passion but if can’t pay my bills it’s hard to take in. Music is my passion deeply but so is computers, which also can be more reliable in terms of money, and I’m having a hard time thinking about doing both.

  • @donaltzaboo6907
    @donaltzaboo6907 Před 3 lety

    Love you, Tiffany ❤️

  • @ganghyunsung788
    @ganghyunsung788 Před 6 lety +3

    Nice video as always!! Your soooo pretty!!💙

  • @maisonvague
    @maisonvague Před 6 lety +1

    I really enjoyed this video! It reminded me of my own choice: college vs conservatory. As things turned out, I got accepted at two conservatories but rejected by my college of choice. So, I let destiny make the decision for me and went for one of the conservatories (Translate: I let my mediocre GPA make the decision for me! haha). Looking back, no regrets. The conservatory experience was perfect for me. Still, as I mentioned in another comment, I think your playing, Tiffany, has benefited from having studied philosophy. It has deepened it intellectually.

  • @lardyify
    @lardyify Před 6 lety +1

    I tend towards the idea that the conservatory is the place for those with exceptional musical talent. I am commenting as one who did not have the opportunity to attend either university or conservatory.

  • @user-qp9dr8ou3j
    @user-qp9dr8ou3j Před 6 lety +1

    Thank you!

  • @juliomaia
    @juliomaia Před 6 lety +3

    Hello Tiffany, I just entered college here in Brazil to study piano, and this video would have been super helpful if made before, haha, just kidding . The "variety" you talk about on the video is killing me. I need to work too, so I feel I waste too much time studying things other than music. But, near my place, there aren't good conservatories, where you can really live music. So, basically you just have to go to college to live these music experiences. If there were better conservatories in my city, I would leave the college.
    Love your vlogs and piano videos, bye!

    • @TiffanyPoonpianist
      @TiffanyPoonpianist  Před 6 lety +2

      No one can force you to "waste time." Just follow your ambitions :)

  • @kevinsuciady2451
    @kevinsuciady2451 Před 6 lety +4

    Don't You Know That I Love You?

  • @b3fiend
    @b3fiend Před 4 lety +4

    And I thought I was stressed going to community college while working part-time. Nobody can ever say she is an underachiever LOL

  • @sepehrshahinfar4053
    @sepehrshahinfar4053 Před 6 lety +3

    Could you please let us know how could you apply to juilliard ? And if someone who just start music and want to apply in this such university like juilliard what should he do ?

  • @yuehchopin
    @yuehchopin Před 6 lety +3

    süß bist du, mache weiter. Gottes Segen!

  • @nathaliesinger2448
    @nathaliesinger2448 Před 4 lety

    Both and mixed

  • @cjour828
    @cjour828 Před 6 lety +6

    Columbia University was a good choice for studying philosophy at least according to something called the Philosophical Gourmet Report of 2017-18. It has one of the top 20 gruaduate programs for philosophy in the English speaking world. Also it is understandable to be reluctant to have controversy emerge in your comment section it can create unfortunate social dynamics. I would hope that you would have some sort of social outlet with friends who like to engage in deep controversial topics when you ever get the urge to sharpen your reasoning skills from engaging with another mind.

  • @kaymeng2185
    @kaymeng2185 Před 6 lety +4

    Hi! Hi! I was following your CZcams and Ins for a long time. I really love this topic. Thank you thank you!
    I am half-time in pre-university (Social Science in Psychology) and half-time in Conservatory. What you said in this video touched me a lot because it is a totally different environment. After two years, I will be choosing my University. I really don't know should I apply for Conservatory or College because I am interested in both.
    I think time will give me the answer.
    Looking forward to your next video :)

    • @TiffanyPoonpianist
      @TiffanyPoonpianist  Před 6 lety +1

      Apply to both and follow your passion :)

    • @kaymeng2185
      @kaymeng2185 Před 6 lety

      Tiffany Poon wow Thank you for replying me! And thanks for the good tip :)

    • @zophiajd
      @zophiajd Před 5 lety

      Hi! There are a handful of conservatories, especially in the USA, that offer programs along with a university that you might want to consider. I'm getting degrees in voice/music education as well as French, at the same time!

  • @Cincaiteoh
    @Cincaiteoh Před 6 lety +2

    Thanks for the video! Do you have any advice for someone who can't even go to both but wanted to play piano at a proficient level? 🙏

  • @b_nadams
    @b_nadams Před 6 lety

    Currently on the dreaded reserve list for a conservatoire and have an offer for something entirely different in university, so a very tricky situation. Thanks for the video!

  • @kiaraeijo
    @kiaraeijo Před 6 lety

    I did not have the Conservatory education ( even though where I went for the last two years of my undergrad is also a high school and the setting is that of a Conservatory but I took university courses) but I was offended by a lady that I asked her for advice and she told me that I would not get into grad school because I did not go to a Conservatory. I don’t think you need to go to a Conservatory in order to be considered an amazing musician.😃❤️🎼

  • @keithwinter7721
    @keithwinter7721 Před 6 lety +2

    Peter & Wolf

  • @fabiojunior298
    @fabiojunior298 Před 5 lety

    Youre great

  • @gabih2346
    @gabih2346 Před 6 lety

    I love your videos Tiff!! Have you ever played any Piazzolla songs???

  • @kelsywew
    @kelsywew Před 6 lety +2

    HI HI! 😍😍😍

  • @skylxntrn
    @skylxntrn Před 6 lety

    I'm gonna try and keep learning piano, albeit from a private teacher, while in med school, so this was kinda insightful. Thanks very much Tiffany!

  • @ramziddinnurillayev3627

    Hello. Is this a university that the conservatory is on the top 300 lIst

  • @user-qx2vk9qk8z
    @user-qx2vk9qk8z Před 6 lety

    Hello Can u please post a video about Ravel's Jeux Deux? I am learning this piece at the moment and I could use a tutorial haha.

  • @briantrinh431
    @briantrinh431 Před 6 lety +1

    Notification squad!!!

  • @imagine9033
    @imagine9033 Před 4 lety +1

    Cute

  • @PIANOPHUNGUY
    @PIANOPHUNGUY Před 5 lety

    If you go to a music conservatory to study classical music, you don't take non music courses, right? So there won't be anything to fall back on, since there is no money in classical music and you will have to WAIT ON TABLES! Get a minor in music , but get an education in a field where you can get a job. There are 60 million Chinese in mainland China who are studying piano right now! Too much competition. No live music anywhere, just cd's, radio etc.

  • @nahasonkeybert5455
    @nahasonkeybert5455 Před 6 lety

    How long u practice sonata (1,2,3 Mov) or Concerto?

  • @normsantos1274
    @normsantos1274 Před 6 lety

    the span of time between Tuesdays seem so much longer.

  • @amateur6426
    @amateur6426 Před 6 lety

    I'm just wondering which one do u focus on more? Piano in Julliard or philosophy in Columbia? Like which one is your perceived major lol

  • @l.mrteera
    @l.mrteera Před 4 lety +1

  • @chanelw9408
    @chanelw9408 Před 6 lety

    Conservatory seems better than college. Depends on what you're doing in life.

  • @severussnape8251
    @severussnape8251 Před 6 lety

    and a half...

  • @romeuwu
    @romeuwu Před 6 lety

    😁😁

  • @fanach
    @fanach Před 4 lety

    In conservatory can u learn there singing?

    • @lilyberthelemy1894
      @lilyberthelemy1894 Před 4 lety +1

      Well, in my country you can, you can choose to major in a choir path or Solist path, to be an opera singer. I'm thinking about going professional, I've been singing opera in a choir for five years now (we're childs devide in 3 groups, 6-10, 11-14, 15-23), and I'll maybe pass in a conservatory so I can be professional. But I'm French so I don't know if where you are you can do the same.

    • @fanach
      @fanach Před 4 lety

      @@lilyberthelemy1894 I'm on the secondary school. In 2 years i will be going to conservatory and I'm a pianist plus i want to learn singing there. Also I'm from Slovakia. That's in Europe

    • @fanach
      @fanach Před 2 lety

      it has been a year huh

  • @Project_101
    @Project_101 Před 6 lety

    0:03 😂

  • @kevinsuciady2451
    @kevinsuciady2451 Před 6 lety

    FIRST

  • @karolszymczyk8170
    @karolszymczyk8170 Před 6 lety

    ALmost firts

  • @revenge425
    @revenge425 Před 6 lety

    are you eating properly? you seems thinner :/

  • @kennethornieta2375
    @kennethornieta2375 Před 6 lety

    Hi Crush :)

  • @7pianoforte
    @7pianoforte Před 6 lety +4

    Thank you Tiffany.
    I know that you will do well pianistically where ever you go. I love your performances of the Beethoven Appassionata and the Rachmaninoff Rhapsody on a theme of Paganini - awesome indeed.
    Just a warning in studying philosophy - do not be persuaded to become a moral relativists. Remain a absolutist with a moral compass. Also do not succumb to atheism or agnosticism. Realize that God is and Jesus Christ atoned for your sins.

    • @doudabee5089
      @doudabee5089 Před 6 lety

      Once again you show how balances and mature you are Tiffany. Good Advice for Hugh School students who nerf that LittleBigPlanet extra to Hello thème weigh their various possibilities before choosing. I wish you à brillant and long international carrer. May God Watch your shadow.

    • @doudabee5089
      @doudabee5089 Před 6 lety

      Oh départ thé auto correct os Berserk!

    • @doudabee5089
      @doudabee5089 Před 6 lety

      Oh dear the auto correct is Berserk!!!

    • @doudabee5089
      @doudabee5089 Před 6 lety

      **Good Advice for the high School students who need that little extra to make up their Minds. **

    • @Zhishan929
      @Zhishan929 Před 3 lety

      I know this is a long time ago, but It is absolutely not safe for a pianist of her level to do exercises that may bring injuries to her hands. This can ruin her career. (Maybe running on a running machine or some sit up, but no bike riding because it risk falling and breaking her wrist.)
      Also, though exercising is important, not everyone has time to exercise, as it is not a priority to some people’s life.

  • @superblondeDotOrg
    @superblondeDotOrg Před 3 lety

    03:50 Pffff, a "philosophy major" talking about time management.. Philosophy being a totally weak major.. if not one of the weakest.. what an uninformed load of... 🙄 STEM college majors spend 12 hrs/day doing massive loads of math problems and studying for exams and writing up lab data.. some STEM students have so much work that they clandestinely sleep inside the lab while their experiments run overnight so they can squeeze more time into their work.. aint no time for "some people play music 12 hrs/day and you can find the time" music in any of that.

    • @PassionPno
      @PassionPno Před 2 lety

      Oh, fuck off. STEM ain't superior.

    • @superblondeDotOrg
      @superblondeDotOrg Před 2 lety

      @@PassionPno go play your fortnite and stop being so angry about weak majors

    • @nfr5946
      @nfr5946 Před 2 lety +1

      She literally addressed this in the video (4:21). You’re just being condescending and rude for no reason. Lose the superiority complex.

    • @superblondeDotOrg
      @superblondeDotOrg Před 2 lety

      @@nfr5946 too bad you cant handle reality

  • @Jamaal4Jesus
    @Jamaal4Jesus Před 6 lety +2

    You should turn the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved from your sins.

  • @matthewalan59
    @matthewalan59 Před 6 lety

    This is perhaps not the best place to put this comment. However, I do not know a better place. Before I make my comment please know that although I think you are adorable, I watch only a few of your videos and those that I do watch I do not necessarily watch to the end. I can only take a few minutes of adorable at a time. My concern is your health. From what I have seen in your wandering around, taking the subway, preparing a meal, attending an opera with a friend, practicing the piano, etc. I do not see regular exercise. Regular intense exercise (with non-optional resistance training) is part of maintaining good health. Do you exercise regularly? Do you understand the importance of developing such habits? Do you swim, do you run, do you play tennis or squash? To the extent that living a good life is about balance, is exercise a part of your life?

    • @milly4543
      @milly4543 Před 6 lety +1

      it's not like she vlogs her whole life. Perhaps keep the personal questions to yourself as her health and daily routine are none of anyone's business..

    • @matthewalan59
      @matthewalan59 Před 6 lety

      Are you just plain stupid? If my memory serves correctly, she shows lots of personal detail about her life. She tells us about the importance of getting a good night of sleep. The importance of proper sleep has become rather uncontroversial (See Matthew Walker's recent book "Why We Sleep.") The importance of regular exercise for the proper maintenance of the body and mind is also uncontroversial. You really suggest that asking her whether she plays any sports or runs or swims is too personal. Get a grip.

    • @milly4543
      @milly4543 Před 6 lety +1

      No, but you're plain rude. Oh I'm sorry, guess mentioning a few general tips about school and juggling responsibilities is automatically vlogging your whole life. Why are you concerned for her health? Nothing about her indicates she is in poor health nor is it anybody's business how she lives, what she eats etc. Are you a medical professional? Dietician? Asking people about their health and routines IS personal. Not sure which planet you've grown up on.

    • @matthewalan59
      @matthewalan59 Před 6 lety +1

      I plead guilty to being rude.But I am not stupid. You are. I do not need to be a dietician nor a medical professional to know that exercise is an important part of being healthy over the long term. I just need to be able to read. Try it sometime. Are you suggesting I am wrong about the importance of exercise? If so, please cite a relevant authority. You accuse me of asking personal questions about her health. I did not. Read my post. I asked such super personal questions like "Do you swim?" (That was sarcasm by the way in case you cannot recognize it) If I have unintentionally asked a question that is too personal, she has the option of simply not replying. She does not need some moron like you to respond on her behalf. Just exactly who are you to take that role? I am concerned about exercise because I see so many young people neglect it. Regular exercise is a habit that should be cultivated when one is young. Contrary to your claim, Tiffany has shared much more about her life than just a few general tips. It occurred to me that I did not see in her videos any reference to exercise. So, l asked. Then for some reason that is totally beyond me, an idiot (you), replied.

    • @milly4543
      @milly4543 Před 6 lety

      I didn't call you stupid lol but you were rude yet again. Health and sport are not the same topic. Asking about somebody's health is personal. Seriously, I'm done with your uncouth manner. Not much I can say to insult you as you've already said more than enough about yourself.

  • @andrewharrison9366
    @andrewharrison9366 Před 6 lety

    💋💋💋💋💋💋💋
    sorry
    no im not

  • @luistrevino1039
    @luistrevino1039 Před 6 lety