REPLACING EVERY FLUID IN A 670WHP SUV IN JUST 20 MINUTES!!
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- Today, we'll be getting into replacing the engine, transmission, differential, and transfer case fluid on this 2018 Audi SQ5! This DIY guide is specifically for the 2018-2023 B9 S4/S5/SQ5 equipped with the EA839/ZH8HP55.
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PARTS NEEDED:
x1 Audi VW Transfer Case Oil
VAG-G055145A2
x1 Audi Automatic Transmission Service Kit
KIT-G060162A2KT
x2 Audi VW Automatic Transmission Fluid (1 Liter)
VAG-G060162A2
x1 Audi Transmission Pan
VAG-0D5398009
x2 Audi VW Gear Oil Synthetic 75W90
VAG-G052145S2
x1 Audi Porsche Engine Oil Filter Kit
HEN-E914HD398
x2 5W40 Leichtlauf High Tech Engine Oil (5 Liter)
181094
ALLDATA FILL SPECIFICATIONS:
3.0L Engine (CWGD) - 7.25L (7.7 qt.)
8-Speed Tiptronic Transmission
Refill 3.6L - 4.0L (3.8 qt. - 4.2 qt.)
Refill (Pan Dropped) 5.5 qt. - 6.0 qt.
Front Final Drive - Refill 0.9L (0.9 qt) Approximately
Transfer Case - Refill 0.8L (0.8 qt.)
Rear Final Drive (0D3) 0.95L (1.0 qt.)
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Had the rockers replaced under warranty on my S5 at 60k and a number of techs I talked with said they think the issue was related to the lubricity of the 0w20, more specifically the Castrol that was the oil first used, and my guys also suggested moving to the same oil the RS5 was using in Europe which were the 502 and 504 oils. Since moving to the heavier oil I've had no issues. As for the transmission, ZF told me that it's absolutely not a lifetime fill unless by lifetime Audi means end of lease or end of an extended warranty. ZF suggested filter and fluid every 60 to 70 thousand miles which is line with every other ZF equipped car I've owned. It's a pain because you need to removed the trans mount crossmember and support the rear of the transmission to get to the rear screws, but it's once every 70k so it's worth the effort. Good time to pop in a 034 mount while you are there.
I just did the gasket on the filter housing, it's an easy job, and if you are burning more oil than you think you should, look around the oil cooler and if you see some pooling oil think about doing the filter housing gasket. And use the new black gasket.
My diff fluid looked fantastic at 100k, but then I don't track it at all, if I did I'd change it much sooner. Just rolled over 120,000 and the car runs as well as the day it was new.
As an owner of a b9 s5 this was definitely what I needed, thank you for the tutorial and getting me ready to do 2 grand worth of maintenance but at least I know my car will be running as smoothly as it can 😁 Great vid !
Get all that maintenance done!
"lifetime warranty" love the preventative maintenance
When filling the engine oil either don’t reinstall the oil filter or pull the dipstick plug. It helps to displace the air in the engine and the oil will fill faster and gurgle less.
Thanks for the tip!
In my opinion, engine oil change correct steps are:
* Take out the oil filter (first)
* lift the vehicle
Undo oil drain plug (drain the old oil)
* Tight the drain plug
Lower down the vehicle
* instal new oil filter (change O ring)
* Filled up with new oil (quantity as per manual)
If you do not take out the oil filter before draining the oil there's about 0.7 l old oil left in the engine from the oil filter housing and lines.
Awesome instructions. I’ll keep those in mind.
Correct, this can happen because with no top ventilation, a vacuum can occur and fluid can stay trapped. It's best practice to crack your oil fill cap and remove the oil filter before draining for proper flow.
AWESOME VIDEO! Thank you so much for taking the time to explain all the steps. I noticed one minor error you might have corrected off camera. You raised the transmission up and started draining ATF side TransferCase Oil I was waiting for you to lower the transmission to make sure all of the oil got out of it. Just something I noticed.
Im a bit of a gear head myself and love working on my B9 S4 instead of having a shop touch it.
Keep up the good work, everyone in the B9/9.5 community will thank you for this video as their is almost no video’s on how to do all the transmission and transfer case oil changes.
Best, Chase
I’m glad I found your channel. Having some dreams about my SQ5’s future, just received my 034 Stage 1 tune.
It’s time for you to go Stage 3+ then 😀
Thank you for sharing this! 100% there is NO SUCH THING AS A LIFETIME FLUID! Contamination from wear on components and thermal fluctuations alone will contaminate the fluid.
This^ I don’t why Audi denies these services when ZF themselves states these services must be performed on the their transmission.
Thanks for the re-upload.
Thanks for the support! Had to fix it haha
@@Need4Built Yes, Sir. I remember you telling me a little while ago(Can't recall which video it was for) to switch from my usual 0w20 oem, to the blue bottle 5w40 Liqui Moly. So yes, excited to do that.
One question though, Why did you perform your oil change (In this video) from the bottom? Or do you always drain from the bottom? Thanks for the B9 content.
@@Kiss__Kiss Just old school. Draining the oil is just how I do it.
Much needed video and is much appreciated! Watching your and few other B9 owners made me do stuff myself on my SQ5, TTE810 install is next!
What was your total hours spend replacing all the fluids?
I was filming so that took a ton of extra time, 6 hours. However I think anyone can do this within 4 hours or less.
Big mistake not taking oil filter out first. The full filter can drains down into the pan so u pull the filter before draining from bottom! 2, always lube filter or ring with fresh oil.
Thanks for teaching me how to do an oil change. Good information.
Dang it!I wish I saw this vid 2 days ago! I would not have sold my 2 oil change kits (LiquiMolygen 5w-40) from my 17 Q7 because I traded her in for a 20 SQ5. Oh well.... since it's a CPO w/2yrs 160k kms warranty, I will have to adhere to 0w-20. I wish I could do the transmission fluid myself, but I haven't found info online on where to properly jack (other than the pinch welds front and back) the vehicle and where to place the jack stands while the the vehicle is lifted individually from each point :(
this is sweet man!! we dont have any of these self serve garage's in my city - cool idea tho!!
Time for you to open a new business. It is really cool!
@@Need4Built not a bad idea bro!! Also, how is ur underside so clean? My '21 already some minor rust on the subrame components and exhaust clamps....lots of salt here in the winter
@@AdrianWyrzykowski which state do you live in? Wa has minimum salt during the winter and I’m a fan of that.
Hold up, you live in WA!? I do too! 😦 funny story, I am gunna meet up with Jeremy at- It’s Pronounced VAG-Uh to buy his used OEM injectors haha.
Great video!
Can you post the drain and refill screws' part numbers? Thank you!
Part of FCP Euro’s kit
@@Need4Built A few more questions, what did you take off on 17:33 and what the torque is?
Great video and information Dave! Thanks for the great content. Much appreciated. Cheers
Thanks for the support!
Next video show how to replace spark plugs!!
@@strikefootball10 that’s arguably the easiest job you can do. However if you scroll through some of my other videos you’ll be able to see me replace them. Hope it helps!
whats the TQ spec for them tripple star bolts that hold the transmission up.
You guys sped all that up during close up.
whats the TQ them? There are two sets, one for the cross brace,
the other for the exhaust mounts.
Spec = tight.
If you go to Erwin, you can download any pdf for the car servicing.
Buy the one day pass, download everything and then you will have all the tq specs
Damn you are really challenging Audi Engineers lol
Not on purpose lol. However after speaking to Audi/Porsche tech’s and hearing their opinion’ would like an explanation to why they would they claim all of the above is lifetime when it’s not according to ZF. For example the RS5 has a service interval while the S4/S5/SQ5 with the same drivetrain, doesn’t.
Concerning the 5w-40 oil, there are a ton of factors, but also there is some truth to the emissions, gas mileage, and less maintenance cost for marketing reasons. Maybe if Audi sees this video, they can reach out to me an provide answers. Also those Audi engineers never expected these cars to push 700+HP
Hey, wondering why do you use G052145S2 x2 for differencials, while it needs to use G065190A2 (front) and G055190A2 (rear)?
I have a non sport diff car. Both the rear and front diff take G052145S2. That’s the new revision of G055190A2.
G055190A2 is now G052145S2.
The front and rear diff (non sport diff) take the same fluid.
G065190A2 is what you need for the sport diff? However I could be wrong as ALLDATA didn’t have a specific number for that sport diff fluid. It’s a white bottle with a red cap.
@@Need4Built Thank you for the explanation. I've checked by my VIN code with sport diff!
@@winfle With the sport diff, it uses a 75w-85 with friction additives, you cannot use this in the transmission it will eat away the brass, but you can use the 75w90 in the sport diff if you like, it just may sound a little louder than normal
@@Need4Built You saved my day! I was confused with G052145S2 and G055190A2. Some of the posts mentioned G052145S2 and the others used G055190A2. Thank you!
Congratulations on your 9 sec run!!! I have a question. When changing transmission fluid, do you have to let the transmission cool down or you can just go ahead and change it?
I would suggest draining it while the transmission is warm, not hot, not cold. Reason for that is so you don’t burn your hands unless you’re okay with thick gloves haha, but also working around everything is better when it’s warm, not burning hot. Also the fluid will drain quicker when it’s hot or warm.
I thought you were supposed to use the G055145A2 for the center diff due to it having the friction modifier in it.
I followed this guide but some part numbers are just not accurate or not fit for B9 SQ5. G055145A2 is the one that is not recommended. Instead Audi recommends Axle Oil G055190A2 and Transfer Case oil G055515A2.
Do you only have 1 fluid in ur rear diff? No sport diff? Should be atf and gear lube
@@RandallSandbergh I don’t have a sport diff and I specified that
Very Good Diy
Thank you!
Best video for the sq5!
Thanks for watching! Hoping to bring more to the table for all B9 owners.
Thanks for the video, did the same using your guide. @Need4Built Could you please explain or record a video how to remove completely rear seats in sq5 I can’t find any instructions please 🙏🏻
I’ll have a video coming up on that shortly in more detail but you can also watch this and get an idea of how you can do it as well.
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Looks like Audi changed over to ZF 8 sp like Bmw s in b9s?
B9’s come with the 8HP65A.
B58’s come with the 8HP45A’s. Weak sauce.
@@Need4Built yeah didn’t quite look like my b8.5 s4 but more like Bmw s
I am finally getting around to doing this on my SQ5 with 60k miles on it. I am looking through the repair manuals on erWin now and I only see them talk about the "front final drive" and "transfer case"
I assume the front final drive is the same as the front differential but I don't see anything about the rear differential. Does Audi have a special name for that too?
I need a Stew’s Garage near me! That is awesome.
Real
what about a RS5? Would you also recommend 5W-40?
Yes, I would. 100%
Would been nice installing the transmission and Diferrential inserts while at it?
Already installed a while back!!
@Need4Built did they make any difference? I have an A6 C7 3.0T, installed only the transmission and I will install the diferrentials inserts next week.
Did you tinted your headlights? There is cool smoky look of them. If so, what % did you use to tint them?
Since you replaced the tranmission pan with that new one that has a filter, do you just do a drain and refill or replace the whole thing again when you do your transmission fluid service?
I would replace it again. Filter should be changed with oil just like an engine oil change.
its the fill plug and not drain plug when your filling the transmission fluid during temp check.
Oops! I didn’t notice that in editing. Nice catch man. 😂
Nice video! I'm at 60k on my B9 SQ5 and this definitely has me more heavily considering changing the other fluids as in your video!
Any chance you still have a discount code for IE?
Glad you’re jumping in the maintenance train!
I personally don’t have a discount code anymore. Sorry!
have you had any issues with your spark plugs/coil packs while running stage 3+?
Nope, no issues. I would recommend sticking with the oem ones. 034 has some awesome coil packs.
Hey guys, i am having bit jerky start when car is in 1st gear and i am in the traffic, what do you recommend me ?
For the trans pan, anything in the way, sides the undertray?
Nothing else besides the subframe
So the subframe has to be removed?
@@rpmautodetailing5958 doesn’t need to be touched at all. Just follow what I did. Raising the transmission gives you more space.
Do you have to brace the transmission when swaping the pan? If so, any recommendations on how to brace it if you're working in your driveway without a lift?
Yes you do. If I’m doing this service on jack stands, you support the trans with a regular jack. That’s what I do.
I have a 2014 Audi q5 with the ZF8 transmission. I just did the transmission fluid change but I was curious is the front and rear differential the same fluid type and then the transfer case is the only one that’s different? Please and thank you!
AL551 has different specifications. Please refer to the Audi forums or other AL551 videos.
Hi!
Very helpful, was searching for all the oils in one place
I didnt understand why you bought the gearbox kit (which contains 9 liters of gearbox oil) and then bought another 2 liters of it separately (VAG-G060162A2)
Also, do you know if sport differential somehow differs? I heard it has "a second part" where oil needs to be changed (Audi S5 F5)
The gearbox kit from FCP only gives you 4 qt’s which is how much you need for just a flush and refill. However if you’re dropping the transmission pan you need 6 qt’s to refill.
The transmission holds 9qt’s but you can only drain out so much unfortunately.
Yeah the sport differential has a different fill procedure which I couldn’t find anywhere. It requires 1.3 qt’s of fluid however.
@@Need4Built ugh.... I really need to know how to change the oil in the sport differential.... I see that ECS is selling "Rear sport differential service kit" which contains same oil you used plus the transfer case fluid, could it be possible that it also needs transfer case fluid?
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@@sergius1298 The procedure is basically the same as it was for the B8-B8.5 sport dif, one side uses gear oil and the other side (marked ATF) uses transfer case fluid. FCP has a video about it, search "Audi S4 Sport Differential Oil Change DIY (2009-2016 B8 & B8.5 Audi S4, S5, RS4, & RS5)"
@@sixajd SQ5 is equipped with 2 types of rear diff, normal and sport one. This video shows us how to change the rear diff fluid of the normal one. For the sport one, we need to prepare 2 different fluids for the ATF side and Manual side, which use ATF fluid and axle fluid respectively. Is my understanding correct? Thank you!
What OBDII app/brand are you using and did you need to do anything with it for the oil change only - or is oil change as easy as going to the infotainment system and 'reset oil interval'?
It’s as easy as resetting the oil interval via the infotainment system.
@@Need4Built I just got back home from a shop doing the oil, not even the dealer, $300 out the door. Thanks so much for showing how much easier and cheaper it is to DIY.
@@wbdharris you can absolutely do it home on jackstands for just 100$ 👍🏼 I usually go to valvoline if I’m feeling lazy and pay them 45$ for labor and buy the oil and filter myself. Still cheaper.
Where are the rims from ? Thanx
Forgestar
Do you remember how long it took you for transmission part?
@@strikefootball10 under 4 hours.
@@Need4Built my mechanic quoted me 3.9 hrs is that reasonable?
@@strikefootball10 if it’s in the 600-800$ range that’s fair.
@@Need4Built thank you ☺️
let me know if your interested in making b8 sq5 videos, I'm in Redmond and will be modding slowly.
Dm or email me please. !
How long do you think it takes to get to 30-40C on transmission fluid? I don't have the liberty of spinning the wheels on jack stands so I need to take it around the block...
30 seconds -1 minute.
Great video!👍 Very useful!👌
Thanks for watching
You know it's crazy they have new version of transmision pan under code 0D5398009C and it costs 1100$. 0D5398009 is priced at 230$. Not sure what's the difference honestly but crazy price difference
I have no idea or answers on that
@@Need4Built it's identical part just rebranded. Just came from Audi dealer for regular service. I asked about 0D5398009 and they said it doesnt fit B9 SQ5. Instead they recommend 0D5398009C which costs 1690.67$. Cost difference is 7x. They are losing their marbles with pricing.
where do you go to find torque specs and oil capacities??
Thanks!!
Oil capacities are in the description.
Torque specs are mentioned in the video however I’ll put them down in the description tonight.
@@Need4Built thanks man!!
Check his audizine thread in the B9 section. I added the service manual section in there with torques
@@gunnar6726 3 Ugga-Dugga’s
@@gunnar6726 thanks!
Also 'NEVER' replace coolant. It's not part of maintenance schedule for a reason. It will outlast the life of your thermostat and water pump. So when one of those fails, coolant will be one of those things that will be replaced no matter what. PS. If one of those 2 things fails and need to be replaced - thermostat or water pump- just replace them both as It will save you over $1200 down the road. It's the same labor cost to get to that spot. So you'll just pay the price of the part to get it replaced (if you do both at the same time).
Isn't the correct transmission the 8hp65a?
That’s correct. I’m not sure why Audi, or even pure drivetrain solutions says it’s a 8HP55A. The transmission in every b9 is stamped 8HP65A.
I love your wheel set up what offset did you go with ? Looking into buying the same wheels
I honestly don't remember. ET35 I think.
Great info!
Glad you think so!
Thanks for great video. I have a question and I appreciate if you respond. I have 2018 SQ5 and I red in Audi world forum and heard from dealer parts department that rear defferential takes 2 fluid. Gear oil on passenger side and ATF on driver side. I noticed you only changed one fluid. Does that only apply to SQ5 sport package that has upgraded rear diff? Does your car have sport package? I wasn’t able to see your brake calibers and check if you have it. ( red calibers are part of sport package too). Please clarify since I’m getting different info.
@@rooz3321 I don’t have a sport diff.
How's your stage 3 SQ5 holding up? I've been seeing a lot of stage 3 B9's losing the tips of their spark plugs and losing compression.
Running stronger then ever actually right now. Not sure what’s going on with other B9’s. Mine has been just a monster. I’m planning to build the motor however soon so we’ll see if anything is damaged inside when I get there.
@@Need4Built Sweet I look forward to seeing your future content!!!
Great video 💯
Glad you enjoyed
It’s crazy this build hasn’t needed a timing chain or rockers swap.
87k on the dash today. Got another tank of E60 in. Time to go do some launches. 😃
@@Need4Built 😂, must be the better fluids, 0W-20 is garbage compared to that 5w-40.
That B839 living its life 1320, at a time.
Why would it need a timing chain? That's not generally an issue until many more miles than this.
Any reason not to change the ATF in the rear diff along with the gear oil?
So you just asked me why I didn’t change the automatic transmission fluid in the rear differential?
The rear differential ONLY has 1QT of gear oil.
If you’re referring to the sport diff, I don’t have one, and that wouldn’t be ATF that’s in the zf8 transmission.. it’s a special sport diff fluid. Again I don’t have that.
@@Need4Built what diff code is yours? I assumed it wouldn’t have it, but in the service manual it’s showing a drain and fill procedure for atf fluid for the non sport diff one, although the fill and drain plugs appear to be less obvious and in different locations than the 0BX sport diff. I have a pretty much identical factory build as yours, 2018 mythos, non S sport, etc. gonna jack up my car to confirm.
No filter replacement needed on rear differential?
There’s no filter on the rear diff, center diff, or transfer case. ?
@@Need4Built thanks for your fast reply 🙏🏼
Yes sirrr
Valid comment
what oil do you use? i also need help or advice. I got a check light saying my coolant is low and. i didn’t know. I think i might of used the wrong coolant in my car. I went and bought the “Peak Oet Extended life concentrate anti-freeze/ coolant european” I’m not sure if that coolant is the correct one to use in this so please help!
i have a 2019 audi s4 b9 btw
I use 5w-40 form LiquiMoly. ONLY.
Even if you refilled your car with the “wrong” coolant which you really shouldn’t mix the Oem coolant with off brand coolant… the fact that it went down again would indicate possible coolant loss? Meaning you probably have a waterpump, thermostat, or bypass valve issue.
@@Need4Built do you think it is a good idea to use 5w-30 or 5w-40 oil on a stock b9 s4? it’s recommended to use 0w-20 but audi only used it because of emission. I’m stock rn but planning on going IE stage 1 with intercooler and intake
@@Need4Built can i use liquid moly 5w-40 even if my s4 b9 is bone stock? I just bought an cts front mount intercooler too
What’s you wheel and tire setup?
Forgestar F14 22x10.5's DWS06+ 265/35/22
is it the same process and gear oil for the B9 RS5? excluding the engine oil though of course
Yes, unless you have a sport diff.
Engine oil is the same.
@@Need4Built I have the sport diff. i’m finding kits for the rear diff but not the front diff. and the kit for the rear has transfer case fluid and diff fluid and says the fluid needs to go on different sides of the differential so it sounds like there is a rear transfer case on the sport diff?? in your video the only transfer case was in the front
@@navarra_rs5_
this is how it goes front to back. Front diff, transmission, transfer case, rear diff (+sport diff in your case in the rear attached to the rear diff)
All the fluids stay the same besides the sport diff fluid for the rear sport diff in your car.
@@Need4Built ok i’m just going to write exactly what it says in the description of the ecs tuning rear diff service kit and hopefully you can translate it a little better for me lol. “When doing the service make sure to note that the fluids are different and need to go in different places of the rear differential. The Transfer case oil will go into where the diff says ATF which should be on the driver side and the Axle oil fill location will be on the opposite side of the differential”
the way they word it makes it sound like the transfer case oil will be on one side of the rear diff??
@@Need4Built I figured it out. the sport diff has 2 separate full holes and one of them takes ATF fluid and the other takes MTF fluid. but I guess the fluid that goes in the ATF fluid side is technically transfer case fluid
Love the vid
Thanks for the support!
Did you end up using all 6 ATFs?
yes
Can i use zf oil and be fine?
Yeah zf fluid or oem Audi fluid
Coolant?
No need for a coolant flush ?
I thought B9 models use 0W-20 oil and B8 5W-40 ?
Yeah Audi went to 0w-20 due to emissions and gas mileage. You know what the difference is ? 1% in emissions and gas mileage with 0w-20 providing less lubrication then 5w-40.
Every B9 owner should be switching to 5W-40 in the summer and 5w-30 in the winter.
@@Need4Builtinteresting info. Good to know.
@@Need4Builtdo you by any chance what break fluid B9 SQ5 uses. Is it Dot 4 or 5.1?
Quality content brother!!
Appreciate that!
You might have an issue homie. I don’t think AllData is as accurate as you’d think. You’re supposed to use the RedTop Gear Oil in the Torsen Diff. The video I am going to put below is a Audi Technician, he used the RedTop.
czcams.com/video/GWageZ2LhTY/video.htmlsi=wdkkYS4Pqd0sTRgn
No worries. Also not diff, transfer case. The description has been changed to show the proper red top fluid and I changed mine again the next day to the red top actually. Alldata was inaccurate on that one thing it seems. Happy I caught it and updated it in the description as well as changed mine. I was told by another Audi technician that it’s not an issue but the red top is what’s actually needed. Fixed!
The other weird thing is when I searched up my vin, that’s the fluid that popped up instead of the red top. Happy I caught it.
🤜🏻🤛🏻
*mic drop*
Liquid moly< motul sorry bro
I changed the oil every 3,000-3,500 in my B9 A4, same with my B8 & B9.5 RS5.. it comes out FILTHY. Change your oil early
This^
@@Need4Built oh & Liqui Moly all the way… the BEST oil out there.
Can you do mine lol! How much would you charge me
Why don’t you dm me on instagram or email me and I’ll send you a quote with parts and labor!!
20 minutes?
Yes the video is 20 minutes long good observation
amsoil
Amsoil is awesome as well.
its not 20minutes
and there are NO exclamation marks in the job.
hype talk. thats all.
Video is 20 minutes long. Womp womp
You're asking for trouble replacing fluids that the manufacturer says are lifetime. Also you're giving people bad advice, why do you think you know better than Audi?
You do know that the actual manufacturer of the ZF transmission recommends changing the ATF fluid at 75k right?
@@thomassones50^ this… Audi is in it for the money.
Lifetime was a millennia marketing gimmick. Ppl lost good cars be cause of it.
Service schedules are driven by lease companies and a 4 year life time, in those years the cost of servicing needs to be as low as possible that’s why there are, no more 1000 mile run in service and 2 year 20,000 mile service schedules are the norm, plus phrases like ‘life time, sealed’ units…
This is NOT driven by advancements in engineering, design or materials. Manufactures and lease companies have worked together so most vehicles will last the warranty and lease periods then they just don’t care.
ZF who manufacture the gearbox states a service schedule.
If you don’t intend to do big miles or keep a car 5 years plus then follow what Audi, BMW, Mercedes etc say otherwise follow ZF or better still service more often.
If u have the q5 sq5 Audi service schedule manual, there it says to change stronic oil every 60k km,
change the oil in haldex coupling every 60k km /4 years.
And changing oil in sport differential every 60k km.
Changing brake fluid every 2 years regardless of kms.