F1 vs LM in old Le Mans (Bonus Cars)
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- čas přidán 24. 06. 2024
- In an older video, we compared LM cars and F1 cars from the same year on the modern layout. Here, we do the same on the old layout, for the period 1955 - today, using Assetto Corsa.
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** Timestamp **
00:00 Intro and recap
01:37 Porsche 917/30 Spyder
05:35 Reynard 95i Oval
09:11 Porsche 919 EVO
12:35 Ferrari F2004
16:11 Mercedes W11 EQ
19:40 Bugatti Chiron Super Sport
23:28 Mercedes-Benz T80
27:28 Telemetry (TS050 vs Chiron)
29:46 Statistics
31:13 F2004 242 Chassis
** Circuit Mod **
Le Mans 1967 : www.overtake.gg/downloads/le-...
** Notes **
- Rules : 20L in each car. RPM and boost limiter to the max. Gears ratio, wings angle, toe and suspension height have also been tuned in the limits of what was allowed by the car/mod default settings.
- As pointed out in the comments, the Toyota GT-One mistakenly has a very low top speed here, at least 20 km/h too low as compared to real life data.
- The C9 top speed should be about 10 km/h higher at least.
- Some drivers said the porsche 962 could reach about 400 km/h, but no official data seem to confirm that.
- The Reynard 95i's braking handling seem much worse that reality, though it's an oval setup.
- For a given car/driver, an error of 10 km/h in top speed impacts approximately 1.5 s in lap time only, because top speed is typically not reached very quickly and acceleration, braking and cornering phases are of primary importance. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I was laughing at that big silver car until I saw it on the straight. Can you imagine it on an oval?
It is really terrible to drive. I do not know how it would have been in real life (well I suppose no one knows), but if I had to do it on an oval, I would tweak the mod parameters first, specially the tyre model. The car also need a better 3D model. But why not, one day ?
I'm imagining it on Martinsville.
@@TheGreatIndoors1979Imagine it on Monaco!😂
@@user-ue1wu9uu2lMacau would be insane
It's a Mercedes T80
The Mercedes T80 is the definition of Jeremy Clarkson and Richard Hammond combined "Speed and Power, but can't go around corners without crashing."
Hammond is basically predecessor to Mazepin.😅
This actually is finally a game where being fast feels scary! :D
the mercedes T80 was pure comedy 😂😂😂😂😂
3000 hp, 378 ugly land vehicle
@@opposideduckat least it looks better than your mom
It's for aerodynamic @@opposideduck
@@opposideduckno performance enhancer is meant to be good looking. That's why Adrian Newey doesn't give a f*ck on most of his creations, but they work
@@opposideduckits worse to handle than Chrysler Phaeton.
The lap in the 917/30 scared me bro. This car is terrifying by it's noise, power and speed
917K and LM55 VGT also.
I've been fascinated by the Mercedes T80 ever since I was a kid, so it was really exciting to see it in action here. Mulsanne becoming a 3-point turn was hilarious😂 That was a wonderful video series, great job!
Best series ever on youtube deam come true
The T80 around the end of the Mulsanne felt like the Austin Powers scene in the mineshaft
That V10 Ferrari SCREAM! my god i miss those days
F2004 "241 Chassis" 2004 still is the legendary car.
Was hoping to see the infamous WM-88 go at it. Excess of 900hp, confirmed LeMans top speed record holder (407 kph, "405 kph" was for Peugeot's 405 model reveal publicity stunt) said to have reached ~420 kph in practice the year before its record setting run
ive been looking for a mod for that but cant seem to find one :(
@@crankycow35098 it's an obscure race car, so I also understand a mod hasn't been done yet 😭
@@hugovilag also i dont think any racing game has it.. yet. but its a rlly cool looking race car
This is Assetto lol no peugeot mods allowed
@@ZipZapTesla cringe comment
if you need a great version of the F2004 i suggest you check ACR's F2004, its the most realistic one i tested.
Amazing video series, had a lot of fun watching it, it was very interesting.
Keep up the good content!
Damn, I don’t think anything is going to be able to match that legendary 917 for top speed.
Very next car, 90s Indycar: 😊
I was watching this series and what an awesome idea. Thanks for all the effort driving all those cars and sharing it with us. In your opinion, what was the most fun car to ride on these track?
Thanks ! The funniest thing to me was to manage cars that become unstable at some speed, like all the pre-1980 cars, especially in braking phases. Indianapolis turn and the Esses (+ braking downhill) was really interesting, and the Maison Blanche section is scary as hell (specially when it's the 12th time you try to make a clean lap with a given car). So I would say GT40, 917K and 917/30 are the funniest :)
"T80 has a 3000hp airplane engine" - and sounds like a glider
In Chinese ( Cantonese) we have developed a sentence in rhyme that describe fast cars on st., but deadly on corners (直路狂，彎路亡)
This applies extremely well on that silver 'arrow', who cares F1 2026 reg :)
I having a ptsd when i saw that 917/30 going wheelie
Haha, the Chiron also did it, and actually the braking after the wheelie was even more uncertain for it due to its weight
15:50 Love the fact that the vanilla chassis min speed at Maison Blanche is higher than the highest speed on the straight.
My bad, these 2 values have been mistakenly swapped.
bro, they're not even cars🤦, they're monsters 💀🔥🙏
That 917/30 terrified me. I could feel the relative lack of grip going through the high-speed sections, and it looked like you would've virtually killed yourself if you had just given the slightest misinput. To think a car with that power/weight ratio was built in 1973; those Germans were crazy!
Double thumbs up for the dedication in testing some 30 cars well enough to pull fast lap times in each. Can't begin to imagine how much time it took you to produce this great series (I'm still to watch the others but definitely plan to).
Classic Le Mans really appeals to me, this 1955 version is neat. Are these free mods for AC? If so could you please provide link to this and the other versions, or point me in the direction where I could find them? I'm guessing Race Dept but any hints/links would be appreciated.
hey bro, quick question. what was the T80s mulsanne braking distance? XDDD
Haha, about 1 km
F2004 242 Maxed Out chassis simply has an amazing sound and top speeds.
The F1 cars most of them can go way faster than Le Mans cars in the Old Le Mans track, despite they have worse reliability than Le Mans cars.
Would really love to see a koenigsegg ccgt featured one day. Would be especially cool to see it without the drastic power restriction it had for the fia compared to the road ccx
If gran turismo released an update for old versions of tracks it would be the best update in all of its history
Bro what is your settings? The sense of speed you got is crazy mine barely shakes or feels fast😭
90s Indy or Champcar with DRS would be unstoppable.
Hey, I would like to know what program you used for the statistics? Thanks!
How do you get the driver's head to move around like that??
bro what is ur sounds and neckfx settings
The Reynard confused me. If it's the oval configuration surely it would be pulling left all the time because of the canted suspension?
Suspensions are part of the tweakable settings in game. However, the mod I use is not very realistic for this car, in this regard.
where can i ger the 241 chassis bruv?
Yeah here it comes
Damn I was thinking "ok let's see who can flat through Indianapolis without breaking or lifting"
*Then W11 just send it.*
Fking monster.
Did the 917/30 on full boost had 1400+ hp?, also whats the song in the video?
About 1300hp according to Kunos. Yes, full boost.
Song is Lazy Laura.
@@fabulouscarcharts5467 thx
dovresti farla anche con F2004 con gomme slik
Es una jodida locura conducir el 917 en el assetto corsa 1580 CV con el turbo a tope
It almost flew at 2:58
That le mans track looks a little too smooth
I think the Red Bull X2011 can wipe the floor
Give the 241 modern tyres!
Mazda 787b please
What’s the mod of F2004?
Isn’t the 2004 natively in corsa
@@TinyBearTim 241 chassis?
I feel like it's a bit disingenuous to tell us the braking point of some of the cars in these tests when you are sometimes braking way too early. In the Reynard, you literally got back on the throttle in the braking zone. There's other cars where you miss some corners entirely. I just think if you're going to be giving out all of this data, you might as well try to get a cleaner lap in each car. That said, the videos are still fun to watch, and it's cool to see how they all somewhat compare.
When testing more than 30 cars and trying to do a honest fast lap with each one of them, sometimes in turns out that you have to choose between a decent lap or not giving the comparison for each car. I chose the first option. Honest lap time was the priority, and secondary stats like braking distance are, well, secondary, sorry for that : )
By "honest lap time", I mean a lap time (with a given setup) that isn't far from the best lap one would have after trying 1 or 2 hours to improve.
Why do people use this mercades t80 model this isn’t how the car looks
What game is this
Assetto corsa
@@Idontknowtohandle.2 thanks
I thought that w11 is the fastest car in the track.
On a normal track, it is. But given this iteration of Le Mans is basically 4-5 straights connected by 5 corners that actually matter, it doesn't manage to win due to it's limited top speed. Yes, it likely should have been in the 360 Km/h range, but it wouldn't have won either way.
@@Starfire_Storm ok, Thanks
Whut
Bro, you have to find yourself a new Neck FX camera, the one you're using is cringe
Can you develop ?
@@fabulouscarcharts5467 yeah sure
How can I send it? CZcams is auto-removing links
@@legendsnespoy1369 I mean could you explain what should be improved
@@fabulouscarcharts5467 mainly that drill-in-your-butt effect at high speeds
Racers in real race cars are tightly secured with seat belts in the cockpit so their body is almost stationary and only head is moving
But your head won't have that simplistic up and down effect with 0 absorption which is present in your NeckFX camera
On bumps head should lean forwards and it shouldn't be so rapid, maybe with ever so slight up and down movements