Southern Pacific & Santa Fe on Tehachapi Sept. & Oct. 1993
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- I made these videos on two separate trips in September and October of 1993. A GP20, FP45's, U36C's, Rio Grande SD40T2's and GP40's are just some of what you'll see here. ESPEE's Oil Cans and a rare Southern Pacific coal Train running over the Tehachapi Loop. And as an added bonus, Union Pacific's Challenger 3985 makes an appearance at Hodge, California! So sit back, relax and enjoy a trip back to the way it used to be.
Now this is RR'd in the 1990's at its FINEST Mel! Thanks for sharing this historic footage of classic ATSF, SP and other goodies at the time! :)
Sure glad you enjoyed this. Thank You for watching and Happy New Year to You.
Exceptional video, a rail fans delight. Thanks for posting.
That knoll in the opening shots at the east end of Walong is where in the mid-to late '80's I would park my travel trailer and spend a weekend with friends--including Mark Giuliano, who recently passed. Who could imagine those days would soon pass into just memories on film?
Sounds like good times Hidden Arizona and glad you were able to experience those days back then with your Friends.
This is when rail fan trips were fun. All the railroads had so many work horse engines and they were growling up this pass and others. Fun times. Great catches too.
Hi Mark, You are so right. Railroads back then had a much different feel to them back then. They were much more personable compared to today’s sterile environment. Thanks for watching Mark!
An Oil Can Meet!!!!! Can't beat that. Thanks for posting. Brings back the good 'ol days of RRing....
Incredible work. Love seeing all those 'classic' locomotives.
Sure glad you enjoyed this CRSR DASH-8 40B. And to think these almost got thrown away.
I absolutely love looking at videos like these where I didn’t get to see such an amazing era of railroading that no longer exists. Like the B units(Examples: GP60B’s and SD45-2B’s), SD40T-2’s, SD45T-2’s, the pain schemes of Santa Fe, BN, SP, and pretty much everything from that era. Today, one of my biggest problems with today’s railroading is that every locomotive looks the same! Why is that the case? At least Norfolk Southern cares enough to place unit designations on the sides of their units so you can easily read learn which is which.
Hi Alik, So Happy You enjoyed this. Todays Railroads care only about standardization. The less amount of different types of locomotives they have the better as they don't have to stock as many parts for them when making repairs. Unfortunately, the Railfan is not a Railroads concern. Thank You for watching!
Phenomenal, gigantic, just awesome. 💪 I'm thrilled, very nice video. 👍👍👍
Thank You for the nice comments and I'm so glad you enjoyed this video.
That's awesome to see B-unit in a consist, something you don't see nowadays. This was right before me and our family moved to United States, back when I didn't speak any English. I was only 9 years old then. This is right before the Burlington Northern and Santa Fe merger, which is now BNSF. The period between 1995-2010 was the best time you can catch all sorts of different types of locomotives, Mainly Standard, Spartan Cab units, B-units, High-Hoods, Road Switchers, Slugs, U-Boats, Spartan Cab GE locomotives, Leasers, Gensets, Cow & Calf sets, etc... Railroading changed so much, nowadays, all you see is mainly Wide Cabs on both EMD's & GE's, Mother & Slug sets instead of Cow & Calf sets and Standard, Spartan Cab locomotives doing all the shuntning/ switching instead of EMD's SW10's, SW1200's, SW1500's, MP1500AC's, Gensets, Etc... Railroading just doesn't feel the same anymore, I really miss the way railroading used to be back then. Almost any train you would catch, would always have some sort of a surprise. Nowadays all trains pretty much look the same.
Hello verastaki, many good points you made about how Railroading use to be. Today I enjoy going out of my way to look for things on todays trains that use to be common practice years ago. No, Railroading isn't what it use to be and then, that's what all the old Steam Heads were saying when the Diesel came on stage. Thank You for your wonderful comments and Thank You for watching!
where was the B unit? i did not see it.
@@MrChickennugget360 Everywhere in this video!
Lots of B units used by the Santa Fe, just watch some videos from 1988 on Cajon and Techachpi
Look how shiny all but one of those ATSF Santa Fe units are! Freshly painted! Today, they are all faded and weatherized, looking like that second unit, if not worse. High-Hoods and Snoot-Nose locomotives is another types of locomotives you don't see nowadays.
Yes, I kind a miss SP's weather beater paint jobs but that was another era.
All I can say man is, WHOOOOOO!!!!!
Hi Danny, Yeah it is a big WHOOOO because as you know, everything in this video is long gone. Can’t believe it’s been almost 30 years. Glad you enjoyed the video and Thank You for watching.
Good collection of clips there Mel
Oil / coal unit trains bring back a lot of good memories
Goin viral bro
Great shots. Thank you
FANTASTIC, Thank you
That Conrail unit was actually a C39-8. great video!!
You are right and Thank You for the correction.
Always good to see the FP45s.
It sure is! Wish they were still today. Thanks for your comment and Thank You for watching
What a wonderful archive. With photographers like you documenting this generation of locomotives, the rest of us can learn a lot. Thank you for making the effort to make these trips back then. The quality is wonderful coming from VHS. What transfer software did you use? Thanks again for being there.
Hello dave6177 and Thank You for your comments. I used a company named Southern Scan and was very happy with their work. Thanks for visiting my channel.
I love it
Hi Wayne, sure happy you enjoyed this video. Thank You for watching!
thank you for sharing nice
Hi Raquel, So glad you enjoyed this. At one point, I threw these tapes away but thought better of it and pulled them out of the trash and had them transferred so I could share this. Sure glad I did. Thank You for watching!
What a treat! As many below have said, railroading in the 90s.... SO much variety. I still love train watching but it is just so boring. It's a Dash 9/ES44 whatever or an SD70ACE. Sigh.
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Hi JF and Thank You for subscribing to my channel. Yes, I agree as having just arrived home from a road-trip to Kansas City to see the train action there, it’s the same ol thing as out here in the west, ES44’s and SD70ACE’s and not much of anything else. I found myself searching for rare rollingstock which I did find some but it’s not like the good old days :(
I agree but CPKC has nice consists of KCS and CP locomotives now that they merged. And CP and KCS has lots of locomotive varietys so that makes it even better. But it's nothing compared to what we see in this video
Given the absence of graffiti on the cars, one can only conclude that either there were few vandals in those days or spray paint cans were not available. Excellent video. 2022/05/04. Ontario, Canada.
Hi Paul and Thank You for the kind remarks. I’m sure Happy you enjoyed this. Thank You for watching.
Well,, kids were in a world back then that was more relevant and they had been parented, not just raised. Whether you know it or not, civilization has already failed and is running on fumes. If you act quickly you might be able to save it. EDUCATE and don't polarize. Just keep opportunities in existence and damn the torpedoes about who has access to them.
@@peterkordziel7047 In the 80's, kids were throwing cinderblocks and rocks into locomotives and hanging shopping carts off bridges to smash through locomotive windows. They were also shooting at and throwing rocks at cars on autoracks which is why there's no more open air autoracks in the US... You can pretend like the world was better before this but anyone can plainly see that isn't the case.
@@jonathanbaird8109 just so. One time, we had to remove a cinder block that some SOB had placed on the railing of the signal bridge by my house. That's an old type of RR signal that is like an arch that the train drives through , although it is square ,for those who are wondering . Whoever put it there wanted it to fall against the windshield. That required an unrecommended but probably appreciated trip up the ladder before the next train came. We disposed of the cinder block.
This is what I like to see, older EMD'S at work and Santa Fe, not that ugly BNSF CRAP.
When is BNSF going to give on this merger title and go back to just Santa Fe? Nobody gives to shits about BNSF. The brand means NOTHING. Santa Fe on the other hand is a name that still has meaning even after all this time.
I agree dmaxsba but the Shippers and Wall Street could care less about the Santa Fe or what it meant to History. If you haven't already, read Robert Krebs book "Riding the Rails: Inside the Business of America's Railroads". It's an eye opener!
The engineers don't wave from the trains anymore, not they did back in 1954.
They still do
22:33 lol what happen to the other half
Man look at those paint jobs
Hi Chris. Yes, these are one of the things I miss the most about this era. Now everything just seems cookie cutter to me anymore. Thanks for watching!
19:35 what did he flip at you?
@@ashleyrodriguwz2554 why would they be throwing train orders at the people filming? This is not a normal location for train orders? Is there a station?
Train Orders or what are also called Flimsies
@@IMRROcom I spoke with a Club Member who use to work the Hill back during this time and said these were either Track Warrants or wheel reports as they stopped using Train Orders or Flimsies in the early 80's.
@@Mrruneight Could have been train line up paper work? When I see my buddies trackside they'll throw those out to me.
@@AdamV1313 Hi Adam, yes that’s a very good possibility. I know the Dispatcher who worked the hill during this time and want to get Her input. Thank You for watching and hope you enjoyed the video.
How come Tehachapi Pass isn't a double track mainline like Maria's Pass and Cajon Pass?
Hi Colby, There are or were plans to do something similar to what you mention. After connecting Walong with Marcel, the next phase was to connect Bealville to Cliff and Caliente to either Illmon or Bealville, I don't remember which. When traffic levels dropped after the 2008 crash, these plans were put on the back burner and they just focused on connecting Walong with Marcel, a wait and see approach. Will they ever start up again is anyone's guess.
Personally, I think Union Pacific IMHO doesn't want to give Amtrak any ideas by putting more capacity on the Hill as Amtrak and the State of California have been wanting to extend the San Juaquin's to Los Angeles for years. This way, UP can say the Hill is too congested to be running Passenger Trains.
Also, Union Pacific doesn't run nearly as many Trains on the Hill as BNSF so they simply can't justify the cost. Yeah, I know but UP and BNSF have never been the best of buddies. An extension of the SP/Santa Fe Days.
Maybe someone else who knows can jump in here and give us the low down. I hope this helps in some way and Thank You for your inquiry, it's a very good question.
@@Mrruneight Jesus. You mean to tell me that it's 2022 and I've never noticed that Amtrak and UP were having a little bit of issues with each other in terms of business?
@@Mrruneight I think Tehachapi Pass will end up having a second track at some point in the future. I think one of the main problems comes from the loop itself. One of my theories is that the loop is one of the things preventing a second track from being made... aside from Amtrak's predatory addiction to acquiring as much track for passenger operations for more money as they can and also aside the beef between BNSF and UP, which I personally don't understand as BN and ATSF were bigger than UP anyway, not to mention more fun to watch and railfan. I can imagine that the loop wasn't easy to create in the first place and constructing a second track is difficult enough, the loop would just make things more complicated. And the rail traffic is also too frequent. Where the hell would construction of a second track even start anyway?
7:00 There's a Warbonnet FP45.
It’s the one that’s on display at the Western America Railroad Museum in Barstow, California and was one of two FP45s on Santa Fe 3751’s first trains after it’s restoration in 1991.
Hi Andrew, I live only about 2 hours from the WARM Museum in Barstow and go there often to watch Trains. I always think of this video when I go there and see number 95. Some years ago number 95 had all it's wiring stolen. BNSF offered to rewire it for a very nominal fee but the Museum decided to not pursue BNSF's offer since number 95 is a static display now and BNSF's hard work would be for not as the new wiring would surly get stolen again. :( Thanks for watching Andrew!
@@Mrruneight I see, and you're welcome.
Are the crews throwing out a copy of the train manifests or something?
Hello XDESP80, Yes that is exactly what these were. Several crews threw these out to us and I wish I’d a kept these. Thanks for watching!
@@Mrruneight bugger. That’d be cool to still have.
Love the old EMDs. Things sure are mundane now compared to all that noise and smoke 😈
taken 1993
Would love to know where that coal came from?
Hi Ross, not sure but had heard this coal normally traveled on the Union Pacific down the old LA&SL but because of track maintenance or a derailment, this coal was shipped over Donner Pass from Skyline or Savage mines in Utah/ Colorado then over Tehachapi.
@@Mrruneight ahhh gotcha thanks
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Hi Chris, I will check this out. Thank You!