OLED black levels is a sells gimmick, because when I watch 4K demo videos on my 55 inch Samsung QLED Q60C tv the black levels look just as deep black to me when I compare it to my sisters C3 OLED tv. The only difference is I paid $700 for the QLED tv and She paid $1500 for her OLED tv. 😂
Ha, I don't think so, sorry to be negative, but CES is a marketing showcase for the industry of electronics. WAIT until your able to buy this new tech in your electronics shop, wait a few years. Looking for the next 8K tv's with native 8K broadcasted network or streaming content .....
H to the izz-O, V to the izz-A Welcome ladies and gentlemen to the eighth wonder of the world The flow of the century, oh it's timeless. HOV'! Thanks for comin' out tonight You coulda been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me I appreciate that, uh
The only practical TVs were the TCL QM8 and QM7 (essentially this year's QM8 is rebadged as QM7). This year can be called the "Return of the LED" because they are coming up with crazy numbers of dimming zones and nits - it will be interesting to see OLEDs next to them. Sony is definitely looking to disrupt the LED market so that's the number one thing. Samsung's anti reflection is impressive because it seems to lose little vibrancy (wetness) in exchange for it.
About the M4, you have to wonder if it's sending the decoded signal over the air which is up to 6 gigabytes per second and a serious health consideration. Who wants 24 Terabytes passing through them over a 2 hour movie? You may as well live next to the busiest cell tower in New York City... If it's the undecoded signal, then perhaps it's ok.
I have no reason to believe they’d send a fully unencoded, uncompressed signal. No one ever had ever since digital compression was invented. I’m sure it’s a lossless-compressed signal at the most
@@TheMamaluigi300 Yeah, it stands to reason that would be the case BUT in Caleb's review of the M3, my impression (and I could be wrong) is that he mentioned that it's the unencoded signal and there were quality ratings. Aside from the health concerns of all that data, it makes no sense because 6 megabytes per second is what the PS5 NVMEs can do and they are literally integrated on the board. I copy games from 1 NVME to another NVME on my PS5 and I never get those advertised read/write speeds. Wirelessly sending that data is bonkers when Wifis top out at 300-400Mbps which is 50 Megabytes per second. We're talking 6 Gigabytes per second (48Gbps) which is crazy - it's 120x faster than Wifi. Not talking 1x or 2x or 3x faster but 120x faster.
Not impressed by Samsung with the Glare Free TV, since it's basically a nano textured glass like what Apple uses in its display and boy does. itcost A LOT.
@@dshawnspjute6305 then don’t call it “Glare Free”. from the video, it looks it spreads the glares more by diffusing it. The glare free on the right takes up more space.
what's the point of either of these? 44 inches requires nearly double the distance to a 27 inch and a 52 inch requires a special working arrangement (the monitor is on the wall and you have the deepest desk in the world or space between your desk and the wall). A 32 inch beats both as you can place it closer, get a FOV that's not 360 degrees and save some money and a wall. As for 8k, distance makes it irrelevant as 4k is more than retina level. You may argue 1440p is retina. Might as well talk about 32k or 96k - let's light up 500 million pixels!!! It doesn't even make sense at CES where they create folding OLED TVs that you can unpack on the battlefield and create a bullet-proof transparent movie theater. Who's got the OLED? Don't break it!!! I need to watch the last episode of Fargo!!! RPG incoming!!! Wait, it's not real, someone's watching Rambo 2!!!
Also, 8k content is seemingly non-existent. The pixel density and clarity from 4k to 8k at reasonable screen sizes is marginal. 4k has been around for a decade because other features, refresh rate, contrast ratios, etc , have shown greater improvements in picture quality. Just look at gaming graphics. The lighting models and AA/texture/frame gen tech has far surpassed just higher resolution textures for image quality.
@@paradisewildchild Yet no one has shown HDR vs SDR side-by-side and I've even asked Vincent Teoh to do one but he hasn't because it's not good. I have an OLED laptop that does 1,000 nits full window (brighter than all your LEDs) and I used Google Chrome for SDR Netflix and IE Edge for HDR DV. You can then use Alt-Tab to A/B blindly since my windows are identical and eventually you can't tell which window you're looking at. I don't think HDR is bad but when you see a SDR picture with full brightness, it reminded me of the S90C next to the X90L where the S90C just ran out of juice and looked dim next to the X90L. That's sort of how HDR looks which is why you will never see a real SDR screen capable of blinding highlights against a HDR screen. SDR is not bad and has zero of the lighting issues that HDR has so you can enjoy everything out of the box. TV manufacturers replaced 3d with it but they bambozled all of us for 5 years as most TVs couldn't do HDR highlights and even now it's a pita to get HDR working fine - it depends on the content.
@@mattb4251 actually we are headed in the opposite direction with streaming. The standard plan for Netflix is actually streaming at 720p. I didn't know that - I assumed it was still 1080p and 6-7 mbps but they had dropped it to 720 and 1mbps for most movies. Now, I did upgrade to the 4k and there's a way to test that on browsers as Chrome is limited to 720p while IE Chromium uses 4k and the Alt-Tab then allows you to switch and do a blind test. If it was not for Planet Earth having a little more detail when I stopped the image and looked at the branches, I swear to god that I would have been 100% convinced that Netflix's 16mbps 4k DV is the same as Netflix's 1mbps 720p, just replicating data on the bitrate and fooling us. I can't even tell you how long I tested it and how many movies I used. It was absurd and I would pull up the details to check the bitrate all the time... You can't tell the difference in regular movies except taking an image and perhaps zooming in. It was such a letdown that I actually stuck with the Standard plan cause what's the point of paying for nothing visible. And I was 2 feet away with magnifying glasses from the screen so the odds of a normal human seeing a difference are zero. If 720p is the same as 4k streaming, then what's the point of 8k? It probably looks identical to 720p.
The transparent samsung is a MICRO LED not MINI LED
Yeah mini led can't be transparent because it's just lcd with mini led as backlight
OLED black levels is a sells gimmick, because when I watch 4K demo videos on my 55 inch Samsung QLED Q60C tv the black levels look just as deep black to me when I compare it to my sisters C3 OLED tv.
The only difference is I paid $700 for the QLED tv and She paid $1500 for her OLED tv. 😂
This is going to be a blockbuster year for TVS. The big 3 and TCL and Hisensr have brought their A games to CES 2024.😊
Ha, I don't think so, sorry to be negative, but CES is a marketing showcase for the industry of electronics. WAIT until your able to buy this new tech in your electronics shop, wait a few years. Looking for the next 8K tv's with native 8K broadcasted network or streaming content .....
The Big 3 and TCL and HiSense? you mean the Big 3 and the Trash 2
H to the izz-O, V to the izz-A
Welcome ladies and gentlemen to the eighth wonder of the world
The flow of the century, oh it's timeless. HOV'!
Thanks for comin' out tonight
You coulda been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me
I appreciate that, uh
Seems like a TCL commercial
Disappointed that Sony did nothing at CES for TV's since the news of going with mini led instead with oled for future TV's.
Could they stack a bunch of those transparent panels to make a 3d image ? 🤔🤔
Check out a little Danish company called RealFiction for the future of 3D television.
Hisense 110 inch is the best announcement
1:38 $20,000 tv? Just hang two 55 inch Q60C TVs next to each other for $1500. 😂
You’d need 4 55” screens to make up one 110” screen.
I don't understand the purpose of transparent oled
The only practical TVs were the TCL QM8 and QM7 (essentially this year's QM8 is rebadged as QM7).
This year can be called the "Return of the LED" because they are coming up with crazy numbers of dimming zones and nits - it will be interesting to see OLEDs next to them.
Sony is definitely looking to disrupt the LED market so that's the number one thing.
Samsung's anti reflection is impressive because it seems to lose little vibrancy (wetness) in exchange for it.
This being cnet you’d think the video quality of this video would be better
The LGs seem to be very reflective but I haven't seen any other comments about this. Are they as reflective as the look on the video? Thanks
The watch needs to be a ring
❤exciting 🎉
Looking forward to the 110” Hisens
One day, we will have 4k Oled TVs for 100€
About the M4, you have to wonder if it's sending the decoded signal over the air which is up to 6 gigabytes per second and a serious health consideration. Who wants 24 Terabytes passing through them over a 2 hour movie? You may as well live next to the busiest cell tower in New York City... If it's the undecoded signal, then perhaps it's ok.
I have no reason to believe they’d send a fully unencoded, uncompressed signal. No one ever had ever since digital compression was invented. I’m sure it’s a lossless-compressed signal at the most
@@TheMamaluigi300 Yeah, it stands to reason that would be the case BUT in Caleb's review of the M3, my impression (and I could be wrong) is that he mentioned that it's the unencoded signal and there were quality ratings.
Aside from the health concerns of all that data, it makes no sense because 6 megabytes per second is what the PS5 NVMEs can do and they are literally integrated on the board. I copy games from 1 NVME to another NVME on my PS5 and I never get those advertised read/write speeds. Wirelessly sending that data is bonkers when Wifis top out at 300-400Mbps which is 50 Megabytes per second. We're talking 6 Gigabytes per second (48Gbps) which is crazy - it's 120x faster than Wifi.
Not talking 1x or 2x or 3x faster but 120x faster.
Anything for LG C4 and samsung S90D
No 4k 1440p
20k$..."it's not super duper expensive " lol😅😅😅
us. buys it.. waits a year and then it's 3 grand 😆 fml why didn't I wait a yr? haha
Gotta be LG.
still no ultrawide tv
Wow
Nothing from SONY?
Or were they too busy showing off their vapor car?
Sony missing sir ji
At 0:41 and 1:04, who farted?
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Sooooooo just buy a VR/at headset, and ignore TV's like most tech companies are. In like 4-5 yrs they probably won't be unveiling new tvs
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Not impressed by Samsung with the Glare Free TV, since it's basically a nano textured glass like what Apple uses in its display and boy does. itcost A LOT.
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I hate tvs nowadays crt tvs were better
correct.
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Glare free = still has glare. Why lie Samsung?
No tv in the world is 100% glare free but this one eliminates alot of it so its pretty close.
@@dshawnspjute6305 then don’t call it “Glare Free”. from the video, it looks it spreads the glares more by diffusing it. The glare free on the right takes up more space.
half the stuff you showed werent even tvs worthless review.
CES 2024 is a disappointment, no 44 to 52" 8K monitor, the industry has been stuck w/ 4K monitor for over 1 decade
what's the point of either of these? 44 inches requires nearly double the distance to a 27 inch and a 52 inch requires a special working arrangement (the monitor is on the wall and you have the deepest desk in the world or space between your desk and the wall). A 32 inch beats both as you can place it closer, get a FOV that's not 360 degrees and save some money and a wall.
As for 8k, distance makes it irrelevant as 4k is more than retina level. You may argue 1440p is retina. Might as well talk about 32k or 96k - let's light up 500 million pixels!!! It doesn't even make sense at CES where they create folding OLED TVs that you can unpack on the battlefield and create a bullet-proof transparent movie theater.
Who's got the OLED? Don't break it!!! I need to watch the last episode of Fargo!!! RPG incoming!!! Wait, it's not real, someone's watching Rambo 2!!!
Also, 8k content is seemingly non-existent. The pixel density and clarity from 4k to 8k at reasonable screen sizes is marginal. 4k has been around for a decade because other features, refresh rate, contrast ratios, etc , have shown greater improvements in picture quality. Just look at gaming graphics. The lighting models and AA/texture/frame gen tech has far surpassed just higher resolution textures for image quality.
The biggest leap in tv technology in the last decade has been the introduction of HDR.
@@paradisewildchild Yet no one has shown HDR vs SDR side-by-side and I've even asked Vincent Teoh to do one but he hasn't because it's not good.
I have an OLED laptop that does 1,000 nits full window (brighter than all your LEDs) and I used Google Chrome for SDR Netflix and IE Edge for HDR DV.
You can then use Alt-Tab to A/B blindly since my windows are identical and eventually you can't tell which window you're looking at.
I don't think HDR is bad but when you see a SDR picture with full brightness, it reminded me of the S90C next to the X90L where the S90C just ran out of juice and looked dim next to the X90L.
That's sort of how HDR looks which is why you will never see a real SDR screen capable of blinding highlights against a HDR screen.
SDR is not bad and has zero of the lighting issues that HDR has so you can enjoy everything out of the box.
TV manufacturers replaced 3d with it but they bambozled all of us for 5 years as most TVs couldn't do HDR highlights and even now it's a pita to get HDR working fine - it depends on the content.
@@mattb4251 actually we are headed in the opposite direction with streaming. The standard plan for Netflix is actually streaming at 720p. I didn't know that - I assumed it was still 1080p and 6-7 mbps but they had dropped it to 720 and 1mbps for most movies.
Now, I did upgrade to the 4k and there's a way to test that on browsers as Chrome is limited to 720p while IE Chromium uses 4k and the Alt-Tab then allows you to switch and do a blind test.
If it was not for Planet Earth having a little more detail when I stopped the image and looked at the branches, I swear to god that I would have been 100% convinced that Netflix's 16mbps 4k DV is the same as Netflix's 1mbps 720p, just replicating data on the bitrate and fooling us. I can't even tell you how long I tested it and how many movies I used. It was absurd and I would pull up the details to check the bitrate all the time... You can't tell the difference in regular movies except taking an image and perhaps zooming in. It was such a letdown that I actually stuck with the Standard plan cause what's the point of paying for nothing visible.
And I was 2 feet away with magnifying glasses from the screen so the odds of a normal human seeing a difference are zero.
If 720p is the same as 4k streaming, then what's the point of 8k? It probably looks identical to 720p.
most exciting thing they could possibly do is bring back a line of CRTs for gamers. but they never will.
lol why CRT ? 😊 isn’t that old ? 😅