Paragliding accident dust devil with brand new airdesign rise4
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Unfallhergang: Ein super Tag- Montag, also trotz gutem Wetter wenig los. Erst wenig/kaum Wind, also vorwärts starten (das darf man doch auch noch ab und zu? ;))... dann kam er doch schön von vorne- super, umdrehen und rückwärts raus! Aber der erste Zupfer an den Leinen war kein Wind, es war der Dusty und das wars auch schon.
Meine Lektion: Schirm nie aus den Augen lassen wenn Gefahr von Dust devils droht- beim kleinsten Anzeichen auf die Kappe springen. Meine Rippen werden heilen, doch mein Herz bleibt gebrochen. Der Rise 4 von AirDesign hatte grade mal 10 Flüge drauf. Er konnte gottseidank repariert werden und ist schon wieder flugtauglich. Ich bin froh, dass ich selbst relativ heil davon kam. Lasst euch vom Namen "thermal monkey" nicht täuschen.... in Bäumen kommt er ganz übel zurecht. Falls jemand von AirDesign das liest- ich lieb(t)e den Schirm, er konnte nichts dafür... ich nehm das Video vom Netz wenn ihr mir einen Neuen schickt ;)
Spaß beiseite, es war ein Sch... Erlebnis-hört man ja auch. Vielleicht hilft das Video dem einen oder anderen Piloten, dass es ihm/ihr nicht passieren muss.
Was mir Profis noch für Tipps gaben:
-nicht lange ausgelegt rumstehen; Rosette hinlegen, aufziehen und starten, wenn´s nicht gleich geht, zum Schirm setzen.
-lernen im Bruchteil einer Sekunde Bremsen zu wickeln/Not-Abbruch
-wenn möglich jemanden beim Schirm stehen haben, der im Notfall draufspringt
Ein herzliches DANKE an der Stelle auch an die Helfer vor Ort, die mir aus dem Baum halfen. DANKE auch an alle vom Club vor Ort welche mir mit der schonenden Bergung des Schirms geholfen haben. Ich werde mich erkenntlich zeigen! Allseits gute Flüge!
ENGLISH: How it happened: It was a great day- Monday, meaning there were few people around inspite of great flying weather. At first, there was little wind, so I set up for a foward launch. Then the wind picked up nicely and I wanted to turn around for a reverse launch. However, the first breeze I felt in my canopy was not a gentle breeze, it was already the dust devil and that was the end of it all...
My lesson from this is to always keep a close eye out for your glider when preparing to launch (this site is prone for dust devils and I should have been more cautious). My ribs will heal but my heart remains broken, since I only had about 10 flights on this beautiful wing. I am not sure if it can be repaired yet. And do not let the name thermal "monkey" fool you; it does not do well amongst the trees. In case anyone working at AirDesign reads this; I wholeheartedly love(d) this glider, it was not the glider´s fault and it obviously deserved better treatment. If you send me a new wing for free I will take down this video ;) Jokes aside, this was a horrible experience, as you may hear in my voice, groans and swearing. Maybe this video contributes to preventing others from having similar experiences.
Finally, my sincere gratitude is due to all the bystanders for getting me and my glider out of the tree.
I wish everyone safe and fun flights- be smarter than I was and keep your #thermalmonkey up in the thermals and out of the trees. #breakyourownribs #theoucheffect
The cameraman won the day. That guy has a future in cinematography.
that fence run at 8 secs was impressive!!
Thanks for posting and helping others learn from this event. Glad you had no major injury; best wishes for more enjoyable flights!
Your take on AD's #BreakYourOwnRules slogan had me laughing. That was quite a wild ride. Glad you're okay
Thx! Dont get me wrong, its an awesome glider. And once it is fixed I will fly it again until either of us is incapable of flying. really hoping it to be the glider! All the best, patman
Danke. Macht mir mal wieder klar, dass man sich mental und auch praktisch auf so etwas einstellen muss.
Hope the pilot is ok, im recovering from a six bone break . Thanks for sharing. The same thermal engine that gives lift can take life. Hopefully we can learn some practices that can reduce injury.
Needless to say this guy is not paying for his drinks at the bar later.
Thanks for sharing. Get well soon!!
nice of you guys to help him
Why no one reacts ? Two guys would have been enough to prevent the flight.
Very instructive video: as a spectator you have to react quickly.
Germans. They are not certified to provide a professional rescue service. Also there's no contract mandating them to do so...
@@dmitryf6069 czcams.com/video/BXBogVV31Y4/video.html here you can see what happens to someone who DID try to help in a similar situation. Once the wing is airbourne there is nothing you can do as a bystander.
Alter Schwede...
Dein Endkommentar im Video sagt's eh recht.
Gute Besserung! Und ich hoffe man kann den Schirm retten
Danke, Rippen sind schon wieder besser- der Schirm konnte repariert werden! 2-3 Zellen waren zu tauschen und einige kleinere Flicker. Wir sind hoffentlich schon bald wieder (freiwillig) in der Luft und mit viel Abstand zum Gelände. LG
Wow that is crazy how high it lifted him I'm in the south west desert we have a bell we ring at our RC airplane field when we see a dust devil coming guys run out hold on to their airplanes sitting in the pit anyone flying we call out which direction it's coming from he fly away from it. It's taken a few large RC airplanes threw them around in the pits before.
danke fürs teilen...das sowas auch in der Stmk passieren kann...Wetter ist unvorhersagbar....
dir gehts gut - also schnell die paar Euro vergessen ! ;)
mit nen paar Euro kaufst Du Dir vielleicht ein Paar Handschuhe.......................; nicht mehr und nicht weniger
Hab jetzt erst deinen Kommentar gelesen. Danke für deine Analyse. Am Kulm selber heuer schon kleine/schwache Dustys gesehen. Der Berg dürfte da prädestiniert dafür sein. Gute Besserung jedenfalls.
I've always wanted to try paragliding. I've flown parachutes for 17 years or so and always flew small and high performance wings, but had a collapse that ruined my (multiple fractures, compound fracture in left leg, broken back and femur etc). A friend told me you really feel the wing react to the air around it and it intrigues and terrifies me 🤣
Sie haben genauso viel Fantasie wie ich, wenn es um die Kraft des Windes geht.
Incroyable cette vidéo, rien ne laissait présager le dust
No hands on brake toggles. This happens in millisecond.
Gute Besserung und lass dich nicht entmutigen (neuer Schirm oder so hat nix damit zu tun). Hatte heute vor einem Jahr den gleichen Unfall mehr oder weniger. Am Start vom Dusty erfasst und über den Hang gezogen, Kopf angehauen, bewusstlos geworden, Heli wurde gerufen. An trockenen Prallhängen im Frühjahr möglichst früh starten und nicht Nachmittags wäre mein Senf dazu.
Danke! Auweh, ja die sind echt mies diese dusties..... nein, der arme Schirm konnte nix dafür. Hatte 10 schöne Flüge damit vorher. Bald ist er repariert und es geht weiter- die XC saison ist noch lange. Jap, da muss man einfach sehr achtsam sein - gut, dass auch dir nicht mehr passiert ist. Alles gute und allzeit sichere Flüge! Patman
That was brilliant, funniest thing ive seen all day....
Das Wetter wird halt immer extremer...die letzten Wochen waren Steigwerte von 6-7 m normal....9 m nicht unüblich. Es war halt zu trocken ...ich habe Dustys an Orten gesehen, wo ich noch nie einen erlebt habe.
Trotzdem Glück gehabt, schade um den neuen Schirm, aber besser als mehrere Wochen im Spital💪🏼
Als Tiroler kannte ich dust devils eigentlich nicht. Ist mir erst hier in der Steiermark ein Begriff geworden- leider hab ich sie zu wenig ernst genommen und grade an dem Tag nicht gut genug aufgepasst. Schirm konnte gerettet werden und gottseidank blieb mir Spital/Arzt etc. erspart. Alles Gute und hoffentlich viele sichere Flüge :)
Krasser Vorfall und viel Glück gehabt! Allerdings gab es auch schon früher Dust Devils. Auf unserem Südstartplatz in einer Schneise haben wir das ganz oft. Es braucht nur genug Sonneneinstrahlung und ausreichend windstille Momente, irgendwann löst sich die Überhitzung schlagartig ab. Da hilft tatsächlich nur früh genug zu starten, ab dem Mittag wird’s immer „gefährlicher“.
CRAZY!
Pilot tensioned the lines while turning which pulled with wing up off the ground into the airflow (this could avoid the whole event). Pilot then didn't immediately depower and kill the wing (due to experience), you can see after 0:39 when he lets the right side (as we look at the wing) energise into the power band without killing it, he has lost all authority and becomes passenger essentially rolling the dice.
To avoid this: don't fly thermic days until experience matches conditions,
perfect your setup technique so the brakes are always under control while the wing is out. Turning as he did, with the wing out increases the risk and gives control away, even if only briefly.
and most importantly, master the wing on the ground before the air so you have the muscle memory and agility to kill the wing and get on it if necessary!
If you learn and fly in thermic conditions you are more at risk of this type of accident, it comes with its rewards but also its risks.
Glad the pilot is ok and we have a great clip for all to learn from!
i wonder, no one react and jump and grab him...
Ach du Scheisse....😳.. gute Besserung👍
Holy toledo
Right there's why I stopped paragliding you just never know
This video currently has 1.7k views and 6 comments but that won't last long.
Occasionally Mother likes to remind us that WE are HER bitches :-)
Мудаки есть везде.
Wow, scary stuff! Is it anything you can do when you get plucked? Like wrapping breaks or use a quickout carabiner?
Just asking so i can be prepared if i get myself in the same situation.
Hello- I was told by expert paragliders afterwards (it is my hobby, not my profession) that once you are caught, there is not much u can do. Lines get twisted in a heartbeat- you loose control... that´s it. My lesson is to avoid getting plucked up while connected to the wing; pay attention to your surrounding, look for early signs (see the wingtip of the other glider roll up?) and be ready to jump on your wing asap. I got away this time- hopefully next time I won´t end up in the air at all :) Safe flights!
@@patman9954 Thank you for sharing your experience!
grab your B's hard and wish for the best
@@patman9954 I'd like to know if you hold the rear risers as well as the front ones on launch.
I learned on coastal sites where we hold the rear risers to pull the wing down if it gets out of control.
I've noticed people who learn inland, in generally lighter winds, people only hold the A risers.
And that seems to be an issue in a few if these launch incidents.
I realise the wind seems to have just taken control before you were even really ready, by the looks.
Pretty scary!
Hope you were ok. You hit that fence pretty solidly
Thanks! I am good- for reverse launch I hold A in my right hand and C or CD in left. C-D works great to kill the glider when launching wind picks up. However, when the wind direction goes in circles with 60+km/h that is the end of "controlling the wing" I am not saying that NOBODY can hold a wing down in a dust devil. But I am certain that I can not do it, no matter how much training I will get. So my lesson is: prevention, prevention, prevention.... i should have been more careful and kept a veeery closw eye on the wing. Thats my mistake that day. :)
Good accident !!
I went thru the video several times and step by step and even extracted interesting screenshots. What I can see is that initially you had both breaks in your hands. But you did not use them at all. Instead, you grabbed the complete bundle of lines, probably even with both hands. My interpretation is that panic was guiding you and in panic one doesn't make any thoughtful decision. The natural inexperienced decision is to try to hold the wing by working against it. Off course the wing won. At least with your right hand you continued to hold all lines of at least one side of the wing. One can even see how that can result in the hand getting completely stuck in the lines when wing rotation continues. This was not the case here, because the tree stopped the rotation. Your left hand lost the break at some point. You never tried to use the breaks, nor did you try to reach out for the C or B risers. This is not to criticize, rather for you and anybody else to learn and to make the time I invested in analyzing the video useful for others.
Another interesting question would be, if you noticed somewhat strong and sudden thermal activities (thermische Abloesungen, don't know the englisch word for that) before, assuming that you where at the launch site for a while. If so, it is a good idea to be prepared for such sudden thermal wind by holding the Cs or Bs once completely attached. Lines need to be sorted before attaching.
Regarding comments "others stood around": What else should one do. The only thing anybody could do is to jump onto the wing or at least try to grab one end. I don't see anything else could have been done once things developed.
If you are interested I could send you the screenshots - if I get your email address...
Bruh... There is nothing you can do to weather that shit storm of a dust devil. These incidents happen very suddenly and violently and cannot be controlled in any significant manner.
Well, I'd argue that with a dust devil, no amount of controlling will do anything. More than the risers or lines he had the good reaction of running towards his wing to rob it of its energy... But it's a dusty, not much he can do. If an error is to be pointed out, it's to not have run for the wing just as it started fluttering and to have waited for so long on takeoff attached to the wing, in an area prone to dusties..
I agree 100% Cuiv. Mistakes were made that day, but anyone who thinks they can "keep their wing down" inside a dust devil like this - has no idea about the forces that hit your wing... wrap ur breaks and pull any line u want as hard as you want- you WILL take off. Caution and quick reactions beforehand is key. Thats what I missed out on. Best, patman
Was that enjoyable?
Poor guy,that looked horrible
Surprised all those guys around you just stood there while watching it happen (before you left the earth). It was pretty evident right away that you caught a dust devil.
About 10 s from first sign to lift off. Its short time to react. Expecially if youre not waiting anything special to happend.
Yeah, I'd have tried to grab them, if I'd realized whatvwas happening soon enough, but it all looked very fast to me.
There are other videos of dust devils where onlookers try to catch the wing. They are tossed away like a rag doll. Once the wing is within the dust devil, neither the pilot nor onlookers can do a thing... prevention is all. Keep the wing on the ground. :) safe flights!
Like patman99 said, it was to late. The most dangerous thing for an onlooker would be to try to hold the pilot to the ground. If both get lifted up, only one has an airbag, and is connected to glider... the other one would just fall to the ground unbreaked.
Check out this one: czcams.com/video/BXBogVV31Y4/video.html
and then please do tell us if you still recommend bystanders to try and grab the wing to stop it.
That is horrible! 😬😵🤕
It's good that the pilot is alive!
Lucky man!
The people around are idiots! Just watching the show.
Your buddies were no help to you..
Wo genau war das?
Kulm Stubenbergsee --- glaube ich
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Что за фигня.Самоубийцы.10 лет летаю такого не видел.Или естественный отбор .