3F UL Gear Taiji 2 vs Naturehike Cloud Peak 2
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2022
- The NatureHike Cloud Peak 2 and the 3F UL GEAR Taiji 2 are both popular budget tents for wild camping. But which one is best?
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Throughout the video I kept calling the Cloud Peak a Cloud Up for some reason - probably because I had a Cloud Up 2 as one of my first wild camping tents. It’s definitely a Cloud PEAK 2 in this video 😆
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There was something in the air that day. For some reason I started calling the tent a Cloud Up half way through 🤦♂️ Apologies for the singing too 😆
It was funny don’t apologise. I’m new to channel but have you taken your dog camping with you yet and how did you get on? I’m also trying to find something for mine to sleep on any help will be much appreciated.
@@Jqteadventures1659 yeah I took her in this one - czcams.com/video/jNBphROGCoE/video.html
@@DaleyOutdoors brilliant thank you
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Cloud Peak 2 is a true two person tent and palatial for one. Great vestibule space for cooking and storage. It stood up to a night of very heavy gusts in the Cheviot Hills on my last night of the Pennine Way. I've had mine for three years and would definitely recommend it.
I don't wash my pegs but do have a small cloth to give them a quick wipe off & keep any soil off my hands. Also have a very small carabiner to clip the pegs together so not to lose any, handy for setting tent up. Clip onto belt loop & your not looking for that last peg that has fallen into long grass
I like the carabiner idea
I was out in my cloud peak 2 on West coast of Scotland recently in constant rain and very strong winds. It coped with it all no bother apart from the noise from top cap section. Not a drip of water got in. Just watch for drips falling into bathtub off the top door section when tent open in wet weather!
Another top tip is to wrap guy lines around poles a couple of times before pegging down. It helps with stability and puts less strain on guy fixing loops. Nice video mate👍
Great review video. I’d been looking at CP2 but decided on helm after another one of your videos. Love the pooch 🐶☺️
Thank you for another helpful video. I love seeing Ruby btw. I used to take my whippet Meg camping until she passed on. Oh yes, I'm a peg washer. I can't help it. I need everything clean before it gets packed away.
Great to see a head to head of these two tents together, thanks.
I got both. The Taiji 2 is airy, but tends to collect more condensation here in humid Malaysia. Cloud Up 2, is nice and taut when camping at windy campsites.. I like the 2 zips on the doors.. always open the top zip halfway at night to let more air in, and also for cross ventilation..
great review, love one of your last comments "who washes their pegs", that made me laugh, keep up the great work bud. You and other fellow youtubers have convinced me to get into bike/backpacking
Cheers Raymond, Thanks for watching mate 👍 ATB Ben
I watched you through my tv so just came to give a like and say thanks 🍻
The real advantage of both of these is the exoskeleton. No getting the inner wet when you pitch / unpitch in the rain.
I don’t need another tent!! But I like the look of the Cloud Up…. good comparison Mr D. More food for thought. Thanks 👍👍👍
the 3f ul has made my wish list as our next tent in the 4 season ,thanks for that good review along with the garden set up too
No problem Tom. It’s a great tent! 👍
got my 3F UL Gear Taiji 2 yesterday morning ,last night got the wife out to do her first wild naughty camp as she calls it ,as your not meant to camp where we was what a great tent loads of room for 2 and so quick to put up take down love it ,
I have just come back from my first camping trip (camp site haha) and have to say no pegs were washed and I would kill for a bigger tent bag. I practiced packing it up at home but it was a different story with all that rain on the tent, grass, everywhere, and pressure of time to get it done in time to depart. I ended up with stuffing the inner seperately into a bag my friend had spare:) What a morning! But great holiday otherwise
This is a really good comparison video. Thank you 😊
Glad you like it 😊Cheers Rachel 👍
Great review, I prefer the cloud peak - up! bit beefier, 2 way zip to vent cooking and bigger vestibule for said cooking. I have a 1 person bomb shelter for nasty stuff. but am looking for more space/headroom in a tent that will still take a beating - thanks.
I have the cloud peak 2, I like it so far, but only used it 4-5 times. Fits in 2x trekology ul80s in perfectly ideal for me and the littlun.
Thank you for wonderful video. I was between these two due to weight difference but I'm going to use it in strong wind so cloud peak 2 for me 👍
Glad it was helpful! Definitely the right choice 👍
I just spent the Jubilee holiday in Fort William, Scotland - Ben Nevis ascent. I bought the Cloud Peak 2 after lots of YT research. Very happy with it. If there is one thing I would immediately change is to change the grey guy lines for bright orange/yellow ones. I had to wrap orange cloth around a few of mine to stop the kiddies in neighbouring tents from running over them.
It's a perfectly roomy tent for 1, great for airflow to open both doors. Quality construction, east to setup/strike. Can'y comment on weather holding as it was clear blue skies all 4 days.
Sounds like you had a great trip! I’m looking forward to trying the tent out 👍
love the mc troll bit. made me giggle. I own the cloud peak 2 which I take to Dartmoor on low elavation due to the winds at the higher altitudes are stronger. but it didn't budge at 35mph winds at lower altitude. which Iwas happy with and the room was nice in the rain. but I tend to have a tarp up away from the tent in a woodland and the place I legally wildcamp in Dartmoor. sonI can have a campfire while hearingbthe pitta pattavof the rain. great video . thanx again . An inspiration on how to film while outdoors. take care buddy..
Cheers mate, appreciate it 👍
I enjoy your sarcastic sense of humor, right up my alley. Washing peg comment was hilarious, Subscribed!
Welcome aboard! 👍
Great vid Ben, yeh I was constantly correcting you on the up bits and the more I was doing it the more you were saying it 😂😂😂
Just a massive brainfart 😆
Hey Ben I've been waiting for your comparison on these two as I've had the Cloud Up Peak on my wish list for a while now. There both ideal tents for the adventuring I do, I only wish the Cloud Peak Up came in brown. Nice review mate, and thanks for reminding me I need to wash my pegs 😂
😆The Cloud Peakup would be awesome in brown 🤤
I do like the colour of the 3F I must say.
Adoo Ben I got the Taiji 2 after your early reviews mate, well impressed, got it from there mate but it was cheaper than that. Wash pegs, what!! never lol
Lol NO to pet washing 😆 Thanks for watching mate. Glad you like thx tent 👍
Great comparison Ben. I was looking for a cloud peak awhile back but couldnt find one (covid probably) . I ended up with the vango Halo pro, which is a solid tent but way heavier than both of these (about 1kg). I still can't decide between the cloud peak or the taiji. Hope you can come back to comparing both these tents after some use. ATB bonny lad 👍. Right I'm off to wash my pegs. I've got three tents and a lot of pegs from old tents so I could be awhile 😀.
😆I think you’d be happy with either TBH. I’ll be using the Cloud Peak on my next few camps to give it a proper test 👍
Did fall asleep but carried on watching this am!
Yes to peg washing! No to stopping.
Funny video, more of funny air!
Haha Thanks for watching mate 👍
Thanks for actually measuring the tents and not relying on production info! 🤗 Big difference for a tall person between 205 and 210 cm.
3F claims that the Taiji 2 is 215 cm long, 15 exaggerated cm longer than what it actually is. That is even sadder. Someone should sue them. 🤣
No problem. It’s always better to check these things! 👍 Thanks for watching mate
Very helpful comparison* Loved the end bit of your video :-) *
Thanks 😆 glad it was useful 👍
@@DaleyOutdoors :-) *
Great comparison! I have the Cloud Peak 2 and was wondering how the Taiji 2 compared, even thinking of getting one but having seen the two side by side I’ll stick to what I have. Cheers, £180 saved! 👍
Cheers Chris 👍 no need to have both, they’re too similar. Unless you REALLY like brown 😆
I have used Cloud Peak 2 since december 2021 for my winter but snowless wild camping in the Alps. It performed well in cold, rain and high wind gust. It would be almost perfect but the zippers are awfull, no YKK ... at least 2021 version not. I have allready broken zippers on both entrances which is quite disturbing. I can't be gentle with maintenance when being in "the situation"... as I am not wildcamping for fun but work related.
The thing is with all these tents is that your average tent, and this applies to most kit too, is designed to work in average conditions. If you're doing average camping, then most of the kit will serve you well, and it's when it doesn't that it becomes noteworthy. If on the other hand you're heading up Snowden/Ben Nevis (or whatever in your strange and exotic lands you happen to live in) in early January, you might want to look to more specialised products. I think the important points are to be aware of what you're going to be doing, what budget you have, and the correlation between those and the kit available.
Or, good review there Ben, Cheers 👍
Cheers mate, that’s exactly what I was trying to say 😆Ben
@@DaleyOutdoors and that's why I like your reviews. Not boggled by the hype. We've recently had the season of the [maker of torches] cheapo advertising, gifting their products to CZcamsrs for, well, cheapo advertising. It's a torch. It either provides light or it doesn't. How much light do you need to pee in the night... Not that any of this gear porn annoys me... So. keep up the good work young man, and thank you for keeping it real.
good clear review may look at one as need a tent i can move but in a 3 man do either of them come in 3 man ,
No they don’t do a 3 man version of these 😬
Hi Ben. Nice review, I have used the Cloud Peak 2 for a while now and it's been great in all weather's. Will you be doing a review of Ruby's sleeping system. I'm on the look out for some stuff like that so I can take my puppy wild camping.
Cheers Alex, she’s just got a bag (link in description) and I put a foam mat under it for her. I only take her out in warmer nights though. She’s a bit of a diva 😆
Brilliant review. Terry McTrolface, love it😂😂😂
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I've picked up the blue 15D version cloud peak 2 for £95 total delivered from AliExpress and can't wait to use it. What a bargain.
I have Cloud Peak 2 love it, you made bit meal of packing it away though. Great video but afraid Ruby drinking was best bit.
She’ll be getting her own channel soon 👍
I have the T2 and i love it. I love the light interior because it does make it feel more spacious. The only thing so far i have a tiny issue with is, when its raining, you cant just sit in it with the door open to watch the rsin because there is no canopy, the rain just drips down into the porch or inside the tent. However, i still love it. Its the best tent ive ever had, and ive had 2 including this one! Also no,i dont wash my pegs, but i use one peg to scrape out any soil from the peg fins before i put them in the bag
I use the same peg de-soiling tactic 👍
Thanks Ben- enjoyed this one! Which tent do you think would do better with condensation, and what make were those pants you were wearing?
Not sure until I e camped in the cloud Peak. The trousers are Tacvasen from Amazon. Check out my video in them 👍
Helm Compact 2 is another solid option in this category. Have the Cloud Peak 2 and love it. The outer zips constantly catch the little storm flap thingies and the hat is a bit flappy (although it is much better if you pitch the slightly narrower end into the wind and wrap and tighten the bungies) but it just feels so solid in windy conditions.
I'm looking for a new tent and the helm 2 compact is top of my list so far, but there are so many tents out there it's hard to choose!, these two tents also look good
@@stevenvitali7404 I don't know what kind of conditions you usually camp in Steven but I've seen two CZcams channels where they complain that sideways driving rain has gone in between the 'hat' and the outer on the CP2 and dripped into the tent. I haven't had that experience myself but it might be worth keeping in mind.
@@kevingallagher7507 thanks for the reply, it's really helpful for me, I don't get what you mean by the hat?,do you mean the vent?, I will do more research, I'm not rushing into getting one yet, I need to explore all the 2 man tents and reviews, also I really need a true 2 man tent as my wife may join me in the near future
@@stevenvitali7404 guylines on taiji2 dont do much. As seen on one paul messners video. Cloudpeak has bad zippers. Rules them both out as a durable tent.
@@bcamping1 thanks for the information, very helpful
Thank you very much for this review. Looks like the walls of the Cloud Peak 2 are more vertical than the Taiji 2, including for the walls of the vestibule? I am guessing that would be useful if cooking in there. I would be interested to hear your thoughts after you have used them some more.
Cheers Lori! Yes I’d say the Cloud Peak has steeper sides, I’ve used both since this video on camps and it’s hard to pick between them TBH. Ben 🤓
Thanks Ben for an entertaining video, made me chuckle. Is wiping my pegs on damp grass washing them?
No. That’s ‘peg maintenance’. An essential part of a camp.
A very good reviews of 2 very popular tents I think labeling them as 4 seasons is very misleading.im not convinced about the guy out points on the taiji over time it could damage the poles.if I had to choose I'd go for the naturehike just a bit more stable in winds and better guy out points.
Cheers Craig, the Cloud Peak would definitely bd better in windy conditions 👍
Ruby's ullation at 11:52 was...particularly suggestive.!
I have a Cloud Peak 2 and it does pack much more easily if the poles and pegs are separated.
My only change is to have the rain cap fixed by bungee to two of the pole clips on the fly sheet. It saves time and also stops it being blown away when erecting or repacking the tent. It also means that less water gets in if erecting when it's raining.
My only addition to the tent are pieces of Tyvec for the vestibules so I can get stuff off wet grass/ground.
I had the cloud up2 and sold it I wish I hadn't 👍🏻
Hi Ben, It's not clear whether Ruby was eating grass or the leaves of Bluebells @ about 1:40 of the video. Just in case it was Bluebell leaves and you don't already know these are toxic to Dogs and can cause stomach upsets and even be fatal if enough are ingested. Just a heads up.
Good review of the tents as always mate.
It was grass mate, as usual 😆
@@DaleyOutdoors Mines the same, I swear he thinks he's a goat!
Cheers for the shout out Ben. I also did some mods to the cloud peak 2 which is on the channel as well. Good comparison video. I think you should do more singing in your videos 😜
No worries mate. Yeah I saw your Cloud Peak vid today 😆 👍
@@DaleyOutdoors don't think I've ever had a tent that I haven't modded! 🤣
I would like to point out that the Cloud Up 2 and the Cloud Peak 2 are two different tents ,apart from that another great video . atb
Yes they are - a mental blip as I said in the description and pinned comment 😆
Wish naturehike would go back to original design of inner door, upside down t. The current one flaps around and gets in the way, gets dirty easily. Also the bag is a pain especially when trying to pack with cold hands, I take a 30ltr dry sack and stuff it in if weather is bad. Other than that cloud peak 2 is the new banshee for me.
Did they remove the large pocket across the entire other end of the cloud peak in the revised version, or did you miss it in the review? I have the older t-door version of the cloud peak in the 15d (blue) fabric. Really liked that pocket, as I could just stash everything they normally would float around the tub in there.
Pretty sure it’s just the one small pocket. I’ll double check on my next camp.
@@DaleyOutdoors it's not at floor level, but the mesh portion of the wall, the entire width and about 20cm deep
Mine has the pocket you're talking about and I purchased it four months ago
I've got 2022 version, it has that larger pocket you are suggesting. It's very handy and out the way! Love the CP2 although flappy hat annoys me in the wind sometimes
Not sure if the length of the Taiji was measured correctly - I sent back a Cloud Peak because if its missing length while I'm happy with the exactly the same Taiji you introduced to us. The official specs say the same...
It was as accurate as my tape measure showed …
@@DaleyOutdoors It is disconcerting as the specs for the Taji say 215cm. There seem to be some variation in terms of quality control. I am 6ft4 and 215cm is my absolute limit. 200cm would definitely be a no. Great video.
So, 4 months on, which is your go to tent? One of these two or something completely different. Looking to get a new tent soon and probably wont need one for snow but a bit of wind and rain. It is the UK after all.
Have seen other reviewers that have found the Taiji 2 can leak a bit on the inner clips but then others saying the Cloud Peak 2 is a bit flappy in the wind at the top so not sure which to get haha
Any ideas?
Hi Tim, my choice of the two would be the Taiji. BUT that's because I have a Helm 1 for any bad weather/windy camps. If I had to choose one tent I'd go for the Cloud Peak. But who wants just one tent??? 😆
@@DaleyOutdoors Haha that's is a very good point, I have 7 of various different sizes but my small two person tent isn't up to much so it is nearly time for a new one.
Oh, and ain't nobody got time to wash their pegs surely? I give them a quick run against each other to get the bulk of dirt off and just bag them :)
I amazed that many of these reviews very little is said about is it waterproof and rain tested.......it seems reviewers want to avoid that discussion for some reason?
I usually mention the hydrostatic head value, that’s all that’s needed really. Can’t remember if I did in this one.
Just back from a camping trip on the West coast of Scotland. When I got home yesterday. I washed my pegs... Oops 😂
😮no way! 😂
Loving Ruby....more videos with her please
She’ll be getting dragged along a lot more now it’s warmer 👍
@@DaleyOutdoors excellent. I have 4 labs, but the youngest is now 3 so supposedly a bit grown up and less puppy-like although I wonder really at times!
Hi , I have just bought a Cloud Peak 2 using the discount code at Collings Outdoors but when I paid it went to an Asian ( I think Chinese) payment option, would this be right or should I be concerned? I have never used Collings Outdoors before. Thanks.
Doesn't sound right. I think they only use Paypal for payments (could be wrong but it's all I've used). It's Collins not Collings - collinsoutdoors.com/
If it's the confirmation screen you'll be fine. The owner of the site is based in China.
Hi mate, what compression sack would you recommend for the Naturehike CP2?
Any 15l one really. Just a cheap Amazon one will do the trick 👍
Will the Osprey Ultralight 20L Dry Sack work?
@@DaleyOutdoors
And would you just stuff it in, in any way?
Yes that’ll be fine.
What about doing a review on the naturehike mongar 2
It’s on the list mate 👍
@@DaleyOutdoors will keep a look out for the video thanks
If out 'in the field' I will wipe the pegs off but once home I like to wash them properly LOL!! I am very fussy and don't likle the bag to get too filthy. And of course, I will wash the bag if it does get really dirty. I like everything to be clean and dry before I pack it away.
I think we all secretly wash them really 😆
@@DaleyOutdoors LOL!! ;-)
Can you do a wind test
I’ll will over time when the conditions allow. I’ll be using both on most of my camps so they’ll be coming out at least once a month. If you’re concerned about wind then Cloud Peak is the one to go for.
I found collinsoutdoors are good prices better Amazon a lot
Bought a lanshan1 and the packaging is good
discount did not work so had to pay £193 with standard post for the 4season inner
Sorry Tom, they cancelled the discount code after too many people used it (I thought that was the idea 🤷♂️). I took it out of the description but I can’t edit it out of the video once it’s uploaded. Ben
@@DaleyOutdoors NP matte just thought i heads up others
I thought the 3F UL was 1.8kg?? Still don't understand how you packed both those tents in what looks like quite a small rucksack. I'd rather have seen you opening your bag to take them both out
They claim it is 1.8. Some manufacturers exclude pegs and bags etc. I always quote weights off my scales and include everything. On this vid the NatureHike tent was in the bag it comes with. I always pack the Taiji with poles separate and the tent itself compressed into a 10l dry bag.
You’ll see it on this video czcams.com/video/jNBphROGCoE/video.html
ok hivemind q for ya... cloud peak 2 ideas pls t stop footprint n tent floor slippin about like a skating rink across each other ,,
Try some silicone dots between them?
onewind camo quilt protector makes a better roof hat for the cloudpeak2 n tames that green if trying t blend in lol pity naturehike dont do whole tent in onewinds camo lol
CP2 has one disadvantage, in strong wind is not very stable, because upper cover works as wing - lot of noise and vibrations. Tent was tested with 30m/s wind in Patagonia. For Taijii i propose strong condensate problems.
I’ve never had any condensation in the Taiji. It has vents in both sides. I can imagine the CP2 cap a ring as a kite/wing though. I haven’t tried mine in wind yet 👍
Two great budget tents tbf, well worth the money. Absolutely not true 4 season tents though. Fair weather tents that won't mind a gust or two but there's no way you'd summit camp in either of these with any confidence.
Taji £192 in August. Now that's inflation!
That’s crazy! 😬
The Cloud peak looks a differ😢ent class to the other one, which looks kind if feeble.
It’s definitely stronger. Depends what kind of camping you’re doing really.
I am a peg washer, don't want all that gritty crap in my bag
Actually lost it at Ruby 🤣 poor girl was thirsty
She sure was 😆
I just pop my pegs in the washing machine along with my dog when she needs a scrub up…..😂
Good tip! 😆
@@DaleyOutdoors was out for to days and when I pulled pegs for Jenny to pack l did think wish I had a stiff brush…..
The video made me even more confused, but you have nothing to do with it, it’s more about the tents. Firstly, the length of these tents is shorter than advertised. Can't they make it 220 cm? Secondly, the mesh is killing me. Why not remove it completely in a 4 season tent, etc. etc.
Never wash my pegs anymore, just knock em on the tree and scrape out any extra dirt i can remove
The Sierra meteor 2 3000 destroys both of these in terms of quality and value for money!
I haven’t tried one out yet so I wouldn’t know.
;) please stop making these videos, I already have 3 tents and a hammock and have visited Collins Outsoors site 3 times this week.
Sorry Steve 😆