Straightening a creek run out with a mini excavator
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creeks have meanders for a reason ( grade) You mess with a creek at your peril and in Canada, Dept of Fisheries and Oceans (DFO) woukd be all over you with huge fines and even jail time. Certified Erosion and Sediment Control Professional, Certified Environmental Professional with 45 years " In the Field".
It's like this to a point in America as well not supposed to disturb and vegetation in or alongside any stream or waterway unless you have a permit and inspector there telling you different but you got to be visible from road or have a neighbor pissed off at you just don't get caught
Hi, I'm an expert from the government and I'm here to help!😂😂😂 Butt out, bureaucrats.
Alright, Tim, I am going to send you on a journey of videos here on youtube so you can see a few ways to use the creek against itself so you can stop having to work on it so often.
There are a large number of stream, creek and river restoration videos here on youtube, you want to see if you can watch as many by the department of conservation or others as possible where they talk about using Vanes, J-hooks and stop logs to correct the course of the water flow. It works basically like this, all these shapes go upstream into the river and rise out of the water as they come towards the bank to create and eddy of slow/slack water against the bank. As the shape dives down into the creek upstream, they allow the water a place to pass over the obstruction so that the water stays in the path you want the water to take. This helps a lot with erosion and deposits the sand in banks where you want it, which increases the chance of the water flowing where you want it to be.
Here is an example for you now that you have straightened the creek out, make a modified V shape like this \_/ in the stream, so that the flat part- the _ is upstream of the rest of the structure and lower in the water than the rest of it. With the \ and / have those rise up out of the stream bed as they go downstream into the creek banks. Use big logs for the whole thing, 10 inches or so of a wood you know lasts a good while in the water down there (cypress and Tupelo come to mind). Make sure that these parts are still buried enough in the creek so the water doesn't wash under them, and far enough in the bank that it doesn't wash around the ends of them. Pack the ends in the banks in real tight and that structure will last a real long time, wood doesn't rot so well underwater.
Just something to think about and research if you want to kill some time some day.
Thanks for the videos all these years, Tim. I still enjoy hanging out with you even if I don't write comments so often anymore.
Here in northeast Georgia you’re not allowed to have machinery in rivers or streams and you’re not allowed to mess with the natural flow of rivers and streams. If the state even thinks you’re close to a trout stream they get angry.
That what you get when you let them fokes that doesn't have the Brian of a hay seed make your laws I'm Alabama and it's not bad here we do what we want on my farm and don't ask any government idiot if we can . it's a free state still over here .if you or in GA it is almost as bad as D.C. good luck with your freedom over there
You can if you have a npdes permit like if you’re working in an outfall, river crossing, etc.. But it’s monitored and supposed to restore and reestablish disturbed area.
same with Nebraska! Illeagal
That's not just Georgia that's law for pretty much the entire country special permits have to be obtained through state and federal government to mess with natural flow of water I can vouch even if this is his property he is in major violation
Same throughout the UK , we can’t touch a water course without jumping through hoops
😁 Reminds me of playing in our little creek as children
In my experience with dealing with wander creeks…we only have been successful when using galvanized rock cages..they aren’t cheap but work really well ..we have an abundance of 2-3 inch rock to fill them with..the cage make beautiful water falls so in areas that are prone to flooding it doesn’t matter where the water flows back in the cages protect the land..we did job where permits where required…we where allowed to come back 2 ft from waters edge and install them in a trench….5 years later the creek was 4 ft wider and there was those beautiful rocks stopping any more erosion 😉
Why would one of the cages b expensive (empty)
@@randywilson6869 because so few of them are made you use one once and they are good for years….
Very nice I love watching you straighten that out❤
Enjoyed the video-I hope the next project is building a bridge over the creek-I would enjoy seeing that
nice job with the mini, sure is a pretty little creek..
GOOD VIDEO!! BET THESES SOME GOLD OR ARROW HEADS IN THERE!!! THATS SOME GOOD ROAD FILL YOU ARE SCOOPING..
Mighty job Tim, that is one versatile little machine💯👌👍🙏😎
Man I love our new kx080. Thing surprised me. But don’t know how confident I’d be in a creek. I might try a 308 in the future though. That size Kubota is def better than the pc 88 though.
If you happen to pass by a big job site that’s laying pipe and see if they have any scrap pieces of 18” 1 or 2 wide make that crossing substantial if you plan on crossing it often. Especially if it’s old hdpe that stuff gets a little weaker the more it’s left in the sun getting hot and cold. Stays forever in the ground though and doesn’t rust like metal pipe.
Do you like taking a break from tree work and change things up a little?
Doesn’t matter what the content is, I like all the videos you put out!
was there a reason you didn't start from the down stream side first so the water would't flow in on your work so much?
maybe wanted to see the flow as you go kinda deal...
Looks like you’ve been running for minute 😎. Very smooth efficient movement with the machine. I’m guessing you started running equipment in your teens.
Be some good material to sift through for arrow head's
By cutting out 1 & 1/2 curves. You may have given the water more force to was away the bottom of the truck crossing??? You need to take all the earth you cut out & fill in the old arch of the river to make that back higher now 👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
I would leave that oxbow there so that there is greater flood sprawl…like how they build retention basins to help control flooding. Otherwise straightening out a stream just increases its speed and worsens flooding.
Hope you dont publish your location cause there are some nuts on here willing to throw you under the bus. I believe that something like this work is very acceptable on your own land. You were gentle on moving the dirt and it’s not a navigable stream so i don’t believe it falls under the federal regs.
Good luck.
Water wins!
Stay safe.
Didn't EPA have comments on your methods?
I like it, nice work Tim.
Thanks!
There might be gold in there. 😊 have a great day be safe
That looks very nice.
Very nice :)
This shit so satisfying to me.
You’re gonna wanna put more of a taper on that straight up and down riverbank.
Can I ask why didn’t you just take the ground and put it in the creek bed to your right (our left) to stop the water from running there instead of putting it all up on the bank?
Just curious, why not cut/fill, baling the dirt into the old section?
That was what I came to ask as well.
Because it’ll just wash it right down the creek
Some rivers do that and create ox bowl lakes in C shapes as a flood cuts the river strait then lazy water cuts curves.
That's not going to work. You piled the sediment on the wrong side.
I don't think it will matter within 2 years. That straightened creek that is 6 feet wide will be 70 feet wide in two years. Speed up the flow, accelerate erosion. All that soft bottomland silt he was moving so easily with a wide bucket and a small excavator will be carried downstream to the next bend and create a larger flood plain than it was today. Some property owner will have the state investigate and then the lawsuit by the state and federal agencies start...
This guy and his toys is exactly why most counties and states have strict laws about interfering with the natural flow of streams.
You would have to be able to walk on water to do that in my state. Yet we have more oil spills than you can count.
Gold panning anyone? Great job! Love the videos!
Well, nice stick control but i see you didnt go deep and you never took a bite...nice job yes,, but it will fill in again..I had the same problem here...anyways nice job..
wow works quickly
Great job great video thanks Tim
Better keep all that sediment in a secure place since the owner upstream might want it back.
Great job!..could really see the difference
Good job
You’d be in trouble in Illinois
Probably handfuls of points in all that to be found soon.
Good
Did you get a knock on the door? Lol
Pretty sure this is illegal in ohio. So just watch out if you continue to post this kind of stuff you might wanna look this up
Here in new york if you go into any water you goin to jail
I would not video it next time
That isnt exactly a mini excavator. Its more of a mid sized.
The core here would eat you alive here good luck
Why ?
It was fine for millions of years,why try to change it now? It will revert back to the way it was when you are gone .
You aren't going to show the Ring doorbell moment when a process server presents you with a summons to a lawsuit by the downstream subdivision that you caused to suddenly begin flooding every spring, are you?
I would pay to see that.
You must have slept through your sixth grade environmental conservation science class.
Congratulations on ruining a beautiful creek and damaging an eco system eventually harming wildlife
Should have thrown all your spoils in the creek where you didn't want water flowing. That's how we do it and it works great.
is this a wise idea ?
In WA. State if you did that to wetlands you would get alot of prison time. Your property or not.