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KEEP MUD OFF SIDING - DRIP EDGE
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- čas přidán 29. 05. 2016
- Installing a drip edge to keep mud off the siding of the house. We use metal edging to hold the gravel against the house to keep the dirt from splashing on the siding.
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Good job, thanks for supporting my videos and the tip on keeping my garden clean.
should put a black screen under stone against any grass growth
John, your videos are great. I hope you keep making them for a long time!
Thank you.
Thank you sir. This video helped me alot to figure this is what i need in my home
Thanks for your insights, John. we will follow your lead and put no cloth beneath the rocks. Now that we do have rocks, not just a drip edge around the house, but also, as a design element along the fence, we wonder if any perennial flowers or shrubs do well if the mulch around them is rock rather than bark? I have heard some plants are too fragile to withstand that summer heat that rocks would store. We are using a white rock, dolomite, to help reflect rather than to absorb sunlight. We live in zone 9B with a rainy winter and a low of 18 degrees and 90-100 in summer. Coastal desert might be an apt term, but lots of greenery around and they sea is just a 15 minute drive away.
Great video John
great video, but the product is called "Landscape Edging" not "Drip Edging." If you call your local box store, they will want to sell you shingles as well. =) Drip edge goes on the roof.
Very Nice and Thank You for the Knowledge.
Thanks John for this video. this is one of my spring/summer projects I already have timber edging. I only have to add gravels (I would go for 2"). I thought of white stones, but like you mentioned these blend in very well. nicely done.
Can you please share info for timber edging? I will appreciate it if you can share a pic of ur work?
@@krishankumark8749 timber rots IMO stone is better.
Great work man!
Ur awesome Ty sharing your work with us
great video i found it very helpful thank you
Looks good
Looks good.
I done something simular. I dig down about 70 cm into the ground installed a dranage piple. then fill up with gravel. Then put flat stones on top, tilted them outwards (So it don´t splash up)
The original reason for this was to block the children from taking the gravels into .. everywhere.
But it turned out this was really good for the robot mower. Now i never have to trim nexto the house. The 30 cm next to the house is always gras free. And the robomower can go up a bit on the flast tiles and turn a round. Cutting all the way to the very edge of the lawn
good video as usual
First and foremost I hope you are feeling better.
What is the hedge species to the left of the screen from then 45 second mark thru the 2 minute mark.?
Looks incredible. I would like to see it from a different angle. I like privacy hedges and wind breaks . If your ever looking for a video idea.
Thanks for posting. Your videos are always really good. I have forwarded several to others who were doing projects or learning to sharpen a chainsaw or build a holzhuazen
Nice, thank you.
Question, it seemed to me that the rocks were all level. Wouldn't it be best to grade it so water would roll off and away from the home? I'm thinking about doing this project so any info would be appreciated. Thanks.
John I wish I knew what kind of shovel you use.
Does gravel help absorb water or keep that water dry ??? I have tiny plants near my foundation and I want the foundation wall to by dry as much as possible shouod I replace some of the soil worth gravel
I can’t put gutters around my mobile home bc of the metal overhang and have a trench that fills with water when it rains. Would a drip edge work for that? Do I dig out a deeper trench & then fill with gravel?
So water wont leak into basemant? Why u didnt use plastic under rocks?
I wondered about water, too. He didn't mention footing drains. But maybe the gutters collect the bulk of the water.
You need fabric to keep out the weeds and the edging prevents water from draining outside especially since the dirt is higher by a few inches. You can compensate with french drains or a drain pipe under the edging.
@@CEDARMULCH642 would you say fabric is unnecessary for the most part?I want to do this around my house and have read so many different things.
@@CEDARMULCH642 I'm in MN. I will probably go without fabric.
Beautiful work you do, Ive been wondering if I should put rocks vs tan bark against my foundation, any suggestion?
It's entirely personal preference.
What is that edging called and where can i get some?
Hi John, I like how you did this and want to buy the same edging. I bought steel edging that only has the spikes but not those nice corners. What brand did you use?
I'm not sure the brand but it was only available at a local wholesale nursery supplier. You can make your own corners if you cut the edging part way and bend it then hit it with some paint. That edging wasn't cheap, or the corners, but it's worth it in my opinion.
Hi there! I like your video, I'm going to do the same thing I have a question, does it need to be at a slope to keep water away? My house is similar to the one in your video, but I don't have drains yet for rain, and was looking at the bottom of the house and it's just mud along the foundation in the back but im concerned about it getting to the foundation, I didn't want to install a pipe in ground but yea should I have it at a slope which I can't think how it might help if there's mud under the rocks, so I'm confused..help
Alisha the slope needs to be away from the house for the first 4-6' and the water has to have somewhere to go. If you look at this planting you can see the bed slopes away from the house. Once the water gets to the lawn the lawn slopes away from the front steps. If you don' give the water somewhere to go it will form a puddle, then a pond, then find a way into your basement.
A trick if you don't have that slope is to install a drain and slope the water toward that drain to remove it assuming you can put a decent pitch on the drain pipe. If you're lucky you have the slope but even if you don't a water issue can be corrected.
Please don't install a drip edge without a slope away from the house. That will just cause water to pool on top of the gravel. The drip edge is designed to keep mud off the house not deal with standing water.
Hope that helps.
hey John, thx for the video. I read that having stones next to foundation would retain more water during rains etc. I am currently planning to deweed a 3foot perimeter around my house. which way do I go? please advice. stones or mulch.
+Land Designs Unlimited LLC cool thanks. will read it now.
Hi John, what brand is that handheld bandsaw you were using? And are those shoes comfortable for digging? I'm looking for something sturdy but don't want to wear boots in the summer. Thanks buddy and nice video btw!
The bandsaw is made by Milwaukee. You might be able to rent one at a big box store. You won't need it for long unless you're a welder. The shoes are made by a company called Muck Boots. They're a generic style, probably around 60-70 dollars. Slip on, waterproof and comfortable. You want a pair! Thanks for watching.
Wish you would show the finished result with the mulch and plantings. Thank you.
This is part of a series. Here is the video at the end of the job czcams.com/video/Asr51oqhfPY/video.htmlsi=-AMiK4kzkXD-1BV1 . I also have a video of two years later.
No weed barrier? Any reason why you won’t use a weed barrier under the rock?
The answer is here in under 5 min. czcams.com/video/_CGbYSSjIPY/video.html
Great job! how did you come up with the 30 inch? I'm doing same thing at my house just not sure how far out I should go.
The gutters were fairly close to the house here so I only had to go 30 inches. If the overhang is greater you want the drip edge to be out farther. You don't want the water to drip on the edge of the bed of gravel, preferably in the middle or at worst the middle 1/3 of it.
13:39 that air conditioner :-( (Nice work John)
Thanks for the video. So, is there any need to put a weed cloth under the rocks?
I have the same question. may be its not needed if the height of the gravel bed is high enough to prevent any week popping out. but I would still put one to keep the mud from flowing up during heavy downpours.
Hello! What kind of dumping truck was that!? That little window that dumps rock into the wheel barrow is amazing!!
The body type is called a Mason Body Dump but the little door is called a coal chute. It's as handy as it looks and more!
@@CTSCAPER super jealous. I need one.
Great video! What is the tool you used for cutting the metal edge?!
I used a Milwaukee Porta-band. You could use a grinder with a cut off disk and if you're a patient type a band saw.
Thanks! I'll look into the Porta-Band.
It helps to have that portable band saw. I've had to cut that metal edging with a hack saw & it's a bitch to cut.
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What's the background music?
Also, I have been advised not to put down stone without some kind of covering on the ground under it. Most people use weed block or drain cloth. I see you put the one and a quarter stone directly on the ground. How do you manage weed growth after placing it that way? And will the stone mix into the soil? thanks.
I used to put landscape fabric under the stone but with or without fabric in 3-5 years the weeds will come. It's much harder to dig up the stone if need be with fabric underneath so I stopped using it. I know it makes no sense but that's the way I've gone.
spray pre emergent in the spring and water it in...or maybe apply it before a rainy day
to clarify, it looks like you didn’t have to slant the soil where the gravel was placed, correct? meaning, I’ve read articles that said the soil should be dug so that it moves water away from the house, therefore you should dig about a 1/4” of it out prior to installing the drip edge. looks like you didn’t do that in the video. I prefer not to do the digging, so can you clarify.
Impressive. Can you come to my house?
What type of soil do you use under the drip edge?
Whatever is there.
Soooooo.... how do you keep the weeds out?
Well Burdick...I have so many questions about this kind of installation, but that's a question I wanted to ask. Everything he implemented today eventually gets changed in the future. I would have put landscape fabric to help prevent weeds from popping up, and I would have used landscape fabric as a way to separate the stone from the ground. Someone in the future is going to think they don't want stones at the foundation, so to remove the egg rock, they could grab the fabric and pull to accumulate the remaining stones out of the ground so 100% of the stones could be discarded. That's one thing I'd do because I've had my share of scraping w/ a flat shovel so much lava rock, pea gravel, but egg rock is the worst because it's so big and you can't get a shovel underneath it...that's the problem. Oh wait, but there's more. Find me again here in the comments video probably above.
The Gravel supposed to be sloping away from the house so that rain water would not drain into the foundation, am I right?
The water is going to flow based on whatever the soil is below the gravel. In this case, the water will flow from the front steps to the left because that's the way the grade is. The gravel is more to keep dirt from splashing up on the siding than to control water issues, if you have pooling water next to the house you need to address the grade or add some drainage.
@@CTSCAPER I do have pooling water next to the house ,you think I could fix that without digging the soil?
@@pierrekhoury1727 If you can raise the grade a bit next to the house to push the water away you'll be ok. However, it depends on whether you have enough clearance to raise the grade without touching the siding, or any wood on the house, with soil. The other consideration is if the grade by the house continues to slope away or if you'll end up creating a big puddle a few feet away.
@@CTSCAPER Thanks for the information
2yrs becomes weed city
It would be cheaper and wiser just to get 5 inch gutters
I hate metal edging. Anywhere in a cold climate it pops up. Anybody in the landscape industry knows this by being around that stuff being asked to hammer it down which is impossible. It can't stay in place because the way it is designed. The metal is a smooth surface, so there's nothing to really grab onto the soil. The metal stakes are smooth, and when you install them they go straight down into the edging, and the frost heaves it straight back up. You can't put the stakes on a 45 degree angle, or even on a 90 degree angle to better help keep steel or aluminum edging in it's spot. Secondly, if I had to install metal edging the exposed top edge would have to be as straight as a guitar string. Impossible? Nope. Years ago when I did install steel edging (haven't in 15 years it seems) I would get two cement nails (long ones) to help get it right, and straight. Using a measuring tape, or stick, I would define exactly where I wanted the edge to be and where the edging began is where I would put the first cement nail.. Hammer a cement nail in place, the go to the other end where the edging would end, and outside that spot, hammer another cement nail exactly measured. Get a long string, and tie a loop on one of the nails, draw it tight to the other nail and make another loop that will slide on the nail up and down.Slide the string down the nails and use that as a guide when digging the trench. Dig your trench along that string. This is the first step to help get it straight. Put your edging in that trench without burying it yet. Bring the string down by sliding it down the cement nails close to the metal edging maybe two or three inches above. Install by burying the edging all the while standing over the string, and site the edging so that the string and edge are in perfect alignment. Move further down the edging, tamp in the soil again to lock it in place all the while siting the edging to the string so that that section is in perfect alignment. You will find the edging will have toeither be pushed in, or pulled out to make the alignment perfect, then lock the edging in place with soil using your foot to compress the soil, don't just rely on a board end or hammer, but really use your body weight to compress. Now go back over the whole installation and review again, siting the edging to the string, and you may find that the edging must be pushed inward a tad, or outward a tad as you stand over the edging, so make those final and last adjustments. Remove your string and nails and you have an edge as straight as a guitar string. And people will wonder, how the hell did you do that!
Did you ever install good quality commercial plastic edging, that has rippled sides, and a T style design at the bottom of the edge where you could spike in metal stakes on a angle that never pops out, and DO IT as straight as a guitar string? And it remains in place for 20 years? And perfectly straight? I do that around aluminum fences so that the lawn mower doesn't destroy fences getting too close. A good bed of mulch, and it looks clean w/o any fence rails bent and scratched. Damn, I should've done a CZcams video.
LostInMySpace yes, please do a video bc I'm having trouble visualizing what you are saying. Maybe you can post a pic here of the edging you use normally and the steaks. Thanks!
Ben, I wish I could show my technique, but I am technical in my field, but not so in processing a video let alone publishing it.
It’s not straight! Would drive me crazy!