More Thread Cutting & Heat Treating (I needed a metal tap)

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  • čas přidán 15. 02. 2018
  • Project hit a roadblock: needed a tap I didn't have... Now I do!
    Level unlocked
    PS Audio gets weird in places; my apologies in advance.
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    music: Bongo Madness - Quincas Moreira
  • Věda a technologie

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  • @Thee_Magic_Man
    @Thee_Magic_Man Před 6 lety +641

    "1st, trick myself into thinking I'm saving money by not buying one."
    I feel like I live by this....

    • @ThisOldTony
      @ThisOldTony  Před 6 lety +71

      it's served me well. :)

    • @barrishautomotive
      @barrishautomotive Před 5 lety +49

      I just bought a mill and a monster lathe so that I can save money. My wife doesn't understand, but if my checkbook ever recovers, I'll show her.

    • @Mogman150
      @Mogman150 Před 5 lety +5

      Probably $4 or $500 tap? BTW, an Acme tap is removing a lot more material than a conventional 60 degree tap.

    • @Rx7man
      @Rx7man Před 4 lety +16

      I just bought 2 welders, I have a lathe (just bought a tool post), and I'm looking at a milling machine.. because I need to save money

    • @dfw_motorrad1329
      @dfw_motorrad1329 Před 4 lety +12

      I needed a transmission for one of my cars, so I bought another car and took the transmission out of it.
      I needed an extra set of wheels for rain tires for my race bike, so I bought another bike and took the wheels off.
      I have a slight hoarding issue. 1 sprinter van, 1 trailer, 3 cars, 2 motorcycles. Soon to be 3 motorcycles. I'm 23 and I live in an apartment. Yet somehow no complaints.

  • @markharrisllb
    @markharrisllb Před 4 lety +346

    "That feels so much more like exactly the same." Those words have blighted my married life!

  • @djordjeblaga7815
    @djordjeblaga7815 Před 5 lety +226

    "I think I'm gonna need a bigger tap wrench." Its usually at this moment that taps get broken.

    • @helplmchoking
      @helplmchoking Před 3 lety +31

      And every time you spot the impact on the shelf, staring at you, trying to convince you it’d be fine this time, you’ve learned from last time and can make it work... or at least I do, “learned” from that mistake too many times now

  • @ArgonZavious
    @ArgonZavious Před 6 lety +272

    Me 20 seconds before watching "oh no, i missed last weeks This Old Tony!"
    Tony at the start of the video "About time, do you know long i've been standing here?"

    • @samueleduardo4505
      @samueleduardo4505 Před 5 lety +20

      I let it in pause justo to go to find something to eat will wathchin came back to hear that, i was like, sorry man dont gona happen again

    • @Trucker_Dashcam
      @Trucker_Dashcam Před 4 lety +2

      One Year Later..

    • @MrMrLacrimo
      @MrMrLacrimo Před 3 lety +1

      @@Trucker_Dashcam 9 months later

  • @molitovv
    @molitovv Před 6 lety +678

    My wife’s been asking when I’ll be back to full hardness again... Now I can tell her that she needs to heat it up until it goes blue. Thanks Tony

    • @TheRealFOSFOR
      @TheRealFOSFOR Před 6 lety +81

      You need it to go red and then dunk it in cold water... if it goes blue it gets all soft again.

    • @Mishn0
      @Mishn0 Před 6 lety +16

      Don't forget to quench it in water....or something.

    • @torniaccio
      @torniaccio Před 6 lety +5

      I'm sorry for my English... I haven't understand the magnet trick at 17:20 ... Could you please explain it again?

    • @skylerlehmkuhl135
      @skylerlehmkuhl135 Před 6 lety +47

      Magnetic materials, like steel, have a temperature called the Curie point above which they stop being magnetic. This is a known temperature, so when it stops sticking to the magnet it has reached that temperature.

    • @torniaccio
      @torniaccio Před 6 lety +11

      skyler lehmkuhl ... thank you man! 👍

  • @Wiegs
    @Wiegs Před 6 lety +235

    I was all... "man, those taps look bought, not made, he's better than he gives himself credi.... ohhhhhh"

  • @JO-iv4xw
    @JO-iv4xw Před 4 lety +320

    "I'm no tool maker" as he is in the process of making tools.

    • @balthazarnaylor5874
      @balthazarnaylor5874 Před 4 lety +5

      just by saying that he became a master tool maker

    • @WeebRemover4500
      @WeebRemover4500 Před 4 lety +11

      and then he goes on to explain hes just guessing and using his experience in making tools
      hes on the verge of making no sense at all, its coded with irony, like an enigma, but with a metallurgic dialect

    • @TSPhotoAtlanta
      @TSPhotoAtlanta Před 3 lety +2

      ​@@WeebRemover4500"a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; but perhaps there is a key?"

    • @WeebRemover4500
      @WeebRemover4500 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TSPhotoAtlanta mayhaps

  • @WhereWhatHuh
    @WhereWhatHuh Před 6 lety +428

    So... Clickspring makes a video about making his own drill bits... TOT makes a video about making his own taps. Coincidence?
    Also, why do those sets always say "Tap and Die?" I've tapped on many of them and I feel fine.

  • @evlhat
    @evlhat Před 6 lety +608

    Laughed out loud at "alright that feels much more exactly the same"

    • @amandapatrick827
      @amandapatrick827 Před 5 lety +10

      This hit me in the giggle-dick. I knew I wasn't alone.

    • @stinky817
      @stinky817 Před 5 lety +2

      Made me laugh as well

    • @smithwesson373
      @smithwesson373 Před 5 lety +3

      Your comment feels so much more exactly the same as what I was going to write. Well done!

    • @jasonoliver3548
      @jasonoliver3548 Před 5 lety

      I've watched a couple videos on this chanel now and that sentence got me to subscribe! Well played sir

    • @SikConVicTioN
      @SikConVicTioN Před 4 lety +1

      Tony's stupid jokes are the best stupid jokes on CZcams!

  • @Ian_Hay
    @Ian_Hay Před 6 lety +157

    “If, like me, you’ve tried to shorten the end of a diving board with a pole-mounted pruning saw, you’ll know what I’m talking about.”
    Say no more Tony. Say. No. More. .

  • @HanstheTraffer
    @HanstheTraffer Před 5 lety +77

    I almost fell off the chair when you were "just kiddin".

  • @AndrewReuter
    @AndrewReuter Před 6 lety +8

    Literally laughed out loud at 23:48: "Alright. That feels so much more exactly the same." That feeling leads to so many screwed up things in later projects. But at least the tap didn't break after the improvement!
    Learned a ton. Sorry if 500 people already left this same comment. Have a good one!

  • @AppleAssassin
    @AppleAssassin Před 6 lety +268

    Jesus what an emotional roller coaster. First you pretend to snap the tap and then pretend the hole is too big

    • @Andy-jj6yg
      @Andy-jj6yg Před 6 lety +41

      He got me on both of them, damn him! LOL!
      I'm so glad I found this channel. The things I have learned that I didn't know that I needed to know!

    • @JDLuke
      @JDLuke Před 6 lety +5

      Lots of guys use the 'hole is too big' excuse

    • @pinkponyofprey1965
      @pinkponyofprey1965 Před 5 lety +7

      Yeah! "NOT FUNNY!!!" hahaha! :D I kind of died twice!

    • @chrisb4726
      @chrisb4726 Před 5 lety +8

      AppleAssassin My heart sank both times. How am I supposed to relax in bed when he's triggering my adrenalin.

    • @RoisinT2
      @RoisinT2 Před 4 lety +2

      That first snap.. :O oh my! I need a new coffee mug now!! It dropped.. Tot will you make me new from steel?
      :D

  • @BustedKnuckleFab.
    @BustedKnuckleFab. Před 5 lety +26

    That line "Maching is nothing but a series of emotional struggles"... perfect description.
    Amazing channel!

  • @machinemad4666
    @machinemad4666 Před 4 lety +28

    my heart sank when he pretended the tap had snapped lol

  • @Falney
    @Falney Před 5 lety +177

    Metric acme sounds like a terrible desease when Tony says it

    • @jsblacksmith858
      @jsblacksmith858 Před 4 lety +11

      While the actual disease is measuring in inch 😂

    • @Martink9191
      @Martink9191 Před 2 lety

      Imperial acme sounds like plaque all over the world.

  • @gaz0463
    @gaz0463 Před 6 lety +179

    At last I get my Old Tony fix.

    • @davidduffy9806
      @davidduffy9806 Před 6 lety +3

      Clearly, I am not only, my "Tony" habit is rampant.

  • @JohnDoe-rl9pp
    @JohnDoe-rl9pp Před 6 lety +150

    Never joke about blowing a tap apart, I had flashbacks there! That horrible, sudden free movement, the knowledge that now you get to take a detour into tap-extractor land and it might just be easier to start from scratch...

  • @radiowallofsound
    @radiowallofsound Před 4 lety +62

    Tony, this is awesome! I love not buying the actual thing needed for the job, and spending lots of times thinking, designing, solving and producing a cheaper alternatives... specially when you'll only use it once. It might not be time efficient, but that's how I spend quality time in my life.

  • @motographyaustralia3046
    @motographyaustralia3046 Před 6 lety +59

    When the smaller thread went through the hole I laughed so hard actually thought you may have stuffed it up😂

  • @AlecSteele
    @AlecSteele Před 6 lety +610

    YESS! More TOT

    • @Theroadslesstraveled
      @Theroadslesstraveled Před 6 lety +3

      Its taken him long enough :P

    • @AlaskaSkidood
      @AlaskaSkidood Před 6 lety +9

      I thought of you while watching the surface grinder: "Time to learn from Tony what Alec said to pay no mind to."

    • @gnillut
      @gnillut Před 6 lety

      Less yack yack!!

    • @thedarside92
      @thedarside92 Před 6 lety +1

      Alec Steele was going to tag you in the video but you beat me to it 😂

    • @TimothyHall13
      @TimothyHall13 Před 6 lety

      Yes, in the rotation!

  • @Wintergatan
    @Wintergatan Před 6 lety +490

    learned a lot here!!

    • @ThisOldTony
      @ThisOldTony  Před 6 lety +86

      Martin! *hi5*

    • @Gruncival
      @Gruncival Před 6 lety +35

      Whoa, Wintergatan watches This Old Tony?! WHOA, This Old Tony watches Wintergatan?! 😍

    • @erling722
      @erling722 Před 6 lety +2

      Wintergatan ooo

    • @poiuytrewq4645
      @poiuytrewq4645 Před 6 lety +4

      didnt think i would find you hiding over here

    • @aspiringcloudexpert5127
      @aspiringcloudexpert5127 Před 5 lety +3

      Hey there, I'm a big fan of your channel!

  • @frozenfrogz
    @frozenfrogz Před 5 lety +58

    I’m a little late for the game, but here is a machinists trick for water quenching:
    Add a bit of dish soap to your quenching water! This will result in lower surface tension of the water and increase the surface contact with the to-be-hardened material. Also, forming of bubbles (Leidenfrost effect) is reduced, bubbles forming are much smaller and collapse faster. Therefore, the quench is more uniform. You can actually get away with some oil-hardening materials being quenched that way, due to less stress buildup!

    • @barrishautomotive
      @barrishautomotive Před 5 lety +10

      Hey, that's actually a great idea. I will definitely try that 3 years from now when I next need to quench something.

    • @davidowens8829
      @davidowens8829 Před rokem +20

      @@barrishautomotive how did it go?

    • @barrishautomotive
      @barrishautomotive Před rokem +21

      @davidowens8829 Worked great. I actually made up a solution of "super quench" which is dish soap, jet dry, and salt. Works really well.
      Bet you weren't expecting a response!

    • @markmclean8858
      @markmclean8858 Před rokem +8

      @@barrishautomotive hahahahhahah awesome 3 years later reply.

    • @GuessMyUsernameYT
      @GuessMyUsernameYT Před rokem +2

      @@barrishautomotive
      It's time to quench, homebrew

  • @jimmydiresta
    @jimmydiresta Před 6 lety +94

    Few good laughs as always ✊🏻

  • @thespiderkelly9589
    @thespiderkelly9589 Před 6 lety +129

    Did anybody else jump and say F*!K at 22:40, like a natural reaction to a tap break.

    • @garyknight8616
      @garyknight8616 Před 6 lety +18

      The Spider Kelly oh yes! And then my memory shot straight to all my work pieces that will forever have a small length of tap stuck in them.

    • @WorshipTheSavior
      @WorshipTheSavior Před 6 lety

      Yep! and yep!

    • @rogerj7327
      @rogerj7327 Před 6 lety +9

      I seriously thought Karma was gonna bite Tony in the butt for that little joke. If that were me, the tap woulda broke seconds later.

    • @dvasymmetry9696
      @dvasymmetry9696 Před 6 lety

      Just kidding ...

    • @yankumarrah
      @yankumarrah Před 6 lety +8

      My heart skipped a beat 😅

  • @RussellRadefeld
    @RussellRadefeld Před 6 lety +13

    Those darn "Just kidding" moments - classic!

  • @norass411
    @norass411 Před 6 lety +10

    You should be teaching our teachers. Your presentation is always so straightforward and accommodating without being patronizing or boring. Thanks so much for all the videos!

  • @Abom79
    @Abom79 Před 6 lety +122

    Great video and shop project Tony! Too bad she didn't got a tool grinder.

  • @SCANEREXE
    @SCANEREXE Před 6 lety +49

    as a toolmaker I am amazed what you can do with the proper knowledge and an adequate homeshop

    • @Yonatan24
      @Yonatan24 Před 6 lety

      I find it actually kind of funny, so much work for tapping a hole in steel! I just spent less than half an hour cutting grooves into a 1/2" threaded rod with my Dremel, turning it into a tap for threading wood!

    • @WCGwkf
      @WCGwkf Před 6 lety

      Yonatan24 that sounds like a pain in the ass lol

    • @thecogwheel
      @thecogwheel Před 6 lety +5

      Wright brothers built a airplane in their home shop.

    • @erikjohansson1814
      @erikjohansson1814 Před 6 lety +3

      OTTO As a toolmaker, it should be quite obvious what you can do with proper tools and knowledge... Just like any other trade.

    • @ThisOldTony
      @ThisOldTony  Před 6 lety +3

      Thanks Otto! a little bit of knowledge can be quite dangerous. ;)

  • @wkm001
    @wkm001 Před 6 lety +50

    Alright, this has to be a team of people making these videos. No one person could be this funny, edit video, and machine tools.

    • @danp2779
      @danp2779 Před 6 lety +12

      secretly, Tony, AvE, and Clickspring are all neighbors.

    • @geraldgepes
      @geraldgepes Před 6 lety +3

      And they seem to be breeding a pool of video editors. Soon your TV will be consumed with well lit shots of angle grinders mounted to lathe cross slides.

    • @danp2779
      @danp2779 Před 6 lety +4

      If only. That'd be the best channel on TV, hands down :)

    • @spudpud-T67
      @spudpud-T67 Před 6 lety +3

      Although both awesome in so many ways I don't think Click and AvE are compatible, but that's the beauty of diversity.

    • @JeffreyErlich
      @JeffreyErlich Před 5 lety

      In all seriousness, who films and edits these?

  • @snowcoalRC
    @snowcoalRC Před 6 lety +107

    you made a tool, to make another tool, to ultimately make another tool

    • @LordPhobos6502
      @LordPhobos6502 Před 5 lety +10

      That's exactly what machining is about 👍😁😇

    • @73twall
      @73twall Před 5 lety +12

      When you get to "master level", you take months to make machines, to make tools, to make other tools, to make the final tool that can be had cheaply and commonly at most Sears right now. ;)

    • @bwjbrown
      @bwjbrown Před 4 lety +8

      @@73twall You might need to replace Sears with somewhere else now for the younger generation... sigh, like Harbor Freight, LOL

    • @Self_Evident
      @Self_Evident Před 4 lety +5

      @CCole RC. Ok, this has nothing to do with tools, ToT, or this video, but it reminded me of this line from Tropic Thunder: "I'm a dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude." - RDJ as the dude playing the dude disguised as another dude...

    • @RealCadde
      @RealCadde Před 4 lety +2

      History is full of tools making tools.

  • @dpie4859
    @dpie4859 Před 5 lety +10

    Its 1.25AM and I am watching this video of a tool being made which I don’t know what it does and a man using vocabulary that is 70% alien to me and I LOVE IT!

  • @kraut-performance
    @kraut-performance Před 6 lety +130

    Made my day! "That feels so much more exactly the same" :-D

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen Před 6 lety +4

      Yeah, that one had me crack up too :D

    • @kraut-performance
      @kraut-performance Před 6 lety +6

      He is defenetly one of the TOP 10 entertainer at youtube.
      If I view one of his videos, the day could only be perfekt. :-)

    • @iteerrex8166
      @iteerrex8166 Před 6 lety

      lol that was a good one huh

    • @kellerrobert80
      @kellerrobert80 Před 6 lety

      Yep, good one, Tee.

  • @nugenki
    @nugenki Před 6 lety +73

    Played my emotions like a fiddle

  • @connorking8503
    @connorking8503 Před 5 lety +138

    "I'm not going to go over all the details..."
    _30 minute video_

    • @ryanrising2237
      @ryanrising2237 Před 4 lety +6

      Evi1M4chine shoot, TOT has a Saturn V build video? Can’t believe I missed that until now.

  • @oBseSsIoNPC
    @oBseSsIoNPC Před 2 měsíci +1

    Making a acme thread is definitely a "Kings quest" and is one of those top level things to ever make. The tap looks amazing, I would say great job and thanks for sharing your emotional struggles.

  • @nexus01gr
    @nexus01gr Před 6 lety +45

    This Old Tony: a "home" machinist that gives you a lot more laughs and insight than any "comedy" or shop teacher could ever do. Who knew! (OK, now I'm really intrigued for the Mystery Project. Not that I mind a 26 minute tangent from TOT...)

    • @jimc3688
      @jimc3688 Před 6 lety +1

      Esspesso machine ?

    • @nexus01gr
      @nexus01gr Před 6 lety +1

      Wouldn't be surprised! Perhaps an industrial coffee bean grinder! All joking aside, just from the beefiness of the parts I'm betting towards a bending/rolling/beading attachment.

    • @gamemeister27
      @gamemeister27 Před rokem

      ​@@nexus01gr that was a pretty good guess!

  • @maxximumb
    @maxximumb Před 6 lety +405

    This channel is kinda like Clickspring's dirty sister. Everyone loves her and you learn a thing or two.

  • @TractorsNStuff
    @TractorsNStuff Před 6 lety +22

    You're right Tony, there are other videos out there. But no one does it like you!

  • @hughchapman5319
    @hughchapman5319 Před 4 lety +10

    "Shortening a diving board with a long handled pruning saw" 👏😂

  • @AlecSteele
    @AlecSteele Před 6 lety +357

    Awesome video, learnt a ton!

    • @eo151
      @eo151 Před 6 lety +19

      Alec, you know he built this whole thread tap project just to show you how to use your new surface grinder. Glad you stopped in. Now less Yack Yack and get back to more Whack Whack!

    • @xenonram
      @xenonram Před 6 lety +9

      More yack yack! We've seen you beat metal into submission for hours upon hours, and it's all pretty much the same. The videos where you do stuff other than only blacksmithing is a good mix.

    • @nodeio
      @nodeio Před 6 lety +1

      Whaddaya know... You just mentioned him in your last build and all of a sudden a new vid by TOT. Spooky! ;)
      I'd love to see some sort of collaboration between the two of you...
      Maybe something involving a forged blank and then using the mill and the surface grinder to help remove some of the need to eyeball things on the belt grinders.
      I'm sort of thinking in the direction of the M9 CS:GO bayonet you made, where you also used the mill.
      I.e. using his expertise to allow you to to marry the forged damascus steel with more modern and accurate machining techniques.
      Enough space there for both of you to shine!

    • @russtuff
      @russtuff Před 6 lety

      What the.... you're everywhere!

    • @ThisOldTony
      @ThisOldTony  Před 6 lety +42

      the man of steele! happy to have you watching Alec. I'll have you know I have grinder envy now.

  • @Elektronaut
    @Elektronaut Před 6 lety +171

    The grey scotch-brite makes a perfect background!

    • @nowayjerk8064
      @nowayjerk8064 Před 6 lety

      the grey makes every thing perfect!!!!!

    • @wonderwolf303
      @wonderwolf303 Před 6 lety

      I noticed it on the 3rd shot and was wondering where he got grey pads
      from....

    • @SuperAWaC
      @SuperAWaC Před 6 lety +3

      i didn't know scotch brite came in boeing grey

    • @geraldgepes
      @geraldgepes Před 6 lety

      I'm betting on it being car floor mats.

    • @GoodOlKuro
      @GoodOlKuro Před 6 lety +1

      Grey scotch-brite is a lot softer and finer than the brown/ochre ones. @wonderwolf303 why do you wonder? is there a any difficulty buying these?

  • @LeCharles07
    @LeCharles07 Před 5 lety +17

    A taper to the flutes would push the chips down out of the way (because you were tapping a through hole). Helical flutes would be what you want if you were trying to tap a blind hole.
    The way you explain everything is so easy to follow and it gives me the confidence to try making more of my own tools too. Thanks Tony!

  • @89RASMUS
    @89RASMUS Před 4 lety +10

    When there is subtitles for the filing, then you know it's a quality channel.

  • @Desi-qw9fc
    @Desi-qw9fc Před 6 lety +42

    "Machining is nothing but a series of emotional struggles." - This Old Tony, 2018

    • @kengamble8595
      @kengamble8595 Před 6 lety

      John Smith
      It be one hellava roller coaster for sure ! 😎

  • @cosminbocean8159
    @cosminbocean8159 Před 6 lety +76

    Awesome video! Bad ideea to watch it at 5 am when everybody around you is sleeping. Bursting in laughs at that hour upsets the wife...

    • @ajtrvll
      @ajtrvll Před 6 lety +11

      That's inconsiderate bro.
      Next time just wake the wife at 5AM so you can watch and share the laughs together.
      Simple.

    • @xmachine7003
      @xmachine7003 Před 4 lety +2

      @@ajtrvll And some vah vah boom😂😂😂😂😝

    • @gangleweed
      @gangleweed Před 4 lety +2

      @@xmachine7003 Night Owls of the World unite......

  • @Enjoymentboy
    @Enjoymentboy Před 5 lety +1

    I truly appreciate the mentality of "Why would I buy it when I can just make it". I learned that from my grandfather and it has become part of who I am. Many people have called me cheap because of this but oddly enough (or not) when they need something they cannot just buy at a price they find acceptable I am the one they ALWAYS come to for help.
    You skills, knowledge and willingness to share both are truly appreciated. Thank you sir!!! :)

  • @jtsimmons3133
    @jtsimmons3133 Před 3 lety +4

    Most acme taps ideally come in a set: a roughing tap then a finish tap. You're much less likely to break a tap that way. Extremely informative vid.

  • @Joe30pack
    @Joe30pack Před 6 lety +38

    You need a disclaimer at the beginning, "This video includes powerful hypnotic phrases and imagery- please do not watch whilst driving or operating heavy machinery"....

  • @diamondflaw
    @diamondflaw Před 6 lety +129

    tappy tap tap.

  • @AllHailZeppelin
    @AllHailZeppelin Před 5 lety +15

    “Alright, that feels so much more exactly the same!” 😂😂

  • @tylerphelps8976
    @tylerphelps8976 Před 4 lety +3

    I don’t machine, or fabricate or do anything like this, but goodness your videos sure make me excited for the day that I can learn machining. I’m fascinated by what you do. Also, I appreciate that you bring it down to terms that are easily understandable. Thanks.

  • @19jaredbarsuglia81
    @19jaredbarsuglia81 Před 6 lety +37

    I've never machined, not a metal worker. Just a locksmith. Maybe small tapping at best. This and AvE are by far the highlights of my CZcams experience.

    • @Joe30pack
      @Joe30pack Před 6 lety +4

      "Just a locksmith" is like saying "just an air traffic controller"- don't sell yourself short. I've employed a few locksmiths over the years that turned out to be the best mechanics, welders, and fabricators I ever met.

    • @disgruntled181
      @disgruntled181 Před 6 lety +3

      Jared Barsuglia
      Have you watched any of BosnianBill's LockLab? Now a days he mostly does challenge locks sent in by viewers but his older stuff was a good learning experience.

    • @19jaredbarsuglia81
      @19jaredbarsuglia81 Před 6 lety +2

      Turbo Encabulator I used to watch all his videos. They just got repetitive. At the time I was moving into commercial and residential automation so I started losing interest.

    • @19jaredbarsuglia81
      @19jaredbarsuglia81 Před 6 lety +2

      Joe 30 pack that's a kind comment, thank you. I've always appreciated the machining quality of a lot of the stuff I work with, between acquiring the tools and their knowledge of their trade ice always held machinists in high regard.

    • @disgruntled181
      @disgruntled181 Před 6 lety

      Jared
      I agree completely! But his first 800 or so VJOs were pretty good...

  • @n2n8sda
    @n2n8sda Před 6 lety +6

    Coffee, popcorn, thread cutting and heat treating, best end to a Saturday night ever.

    • @utopia2112
      @utopia2112 Před 6 lety +2

      You are a WEIRD date. See you at the support group meeting ;-)

  • @kenciphery690
    @kenciphery690 Před 5 lety +27

    Tony, you touched on the reason that the cutting forces were higher than expected for the given diameter of tap.
    When you started cutting your acme thread you first cut a 60* thread to relive the stress on your form tool....the same consideration needs to be observed in your acme tap....which is essentially a gang of form tools... commercial acme taps typically transition from a 60* thread into an acme tread over their length.

    • @NOTNOTJON
      @NOTNOTJON Před 3 lety

      So in other words, it'll get there over time?

  • @ges7991
    @ges7991 Před 6 lety +1

    Watching these videos by This Old Tony is becoming a serious problem. I just can't stop!! I'm into binge watching now. Who would have thunk that watching machining / welding videos could be this much fun!

  • @lazaglider
    @lazaglider Před 6 lety +40

    24:51...you got me

    • @dimitrijevasiljevic
      @dimitrijevasiljevic Před 6 lety +3

      lazaglider I almost shat a brick...

    • @Baisulis84
      @Baisulis84 Před 6 lety +2

      Laughed so hard!!! Imagine it actually happens after half a day of struggle.

  • @StefanGotteswinter
    @StefanGotteswinter Před 6 lety +64

    Nice!
    Speaking of getting high speed steel soft during grinding: doesnt matter. Just get on it, annealing Hss is almost impossible without a controlled furnance/kiln.

    • @ThisOldTony
      @ThisOldTony  Před 6 lety +56

      you can save a lot of trouble just buying cheap HSS... it comes already soft. :)

    • @stephanmantler
      @stephanmantler Před 6 lety +17

      "Highly Soft Steel" ?

    • @bradreee7290
      @bradreee7290 Před 6 lety +2

      This Old Tony steel starts to lose carbon content once it get to around 2600 but by that point its almost molten so grinding doesnt make that much difference

    • @scottleft3672
      @scottleft3672 Před 6 lety

      High Speed Silly.....its obvious.

  • @seannot-telling9806
    @seannot-telling9806 Před 6 lety +1

    Your very welcome, Thank You for sharing this with us.
    My visit into the tap making world was a simple thread clean out tap for a driveline. Just took an extra bolt that hold the U-joint in place and used a dremel and cut some flutes.
    Worked well doing the job I needed it to do. Moral of the story. If you need it now and can't wait. Then make it yourself and also save the money.

  • @jesuiscequejesuis2267
    @jesuiscequejesuis2267 Před 6 lety

    I would never have envisaged in a million years watching engineering videos ... until stumbling across yours.

  • @routercnc9517
    @routercnc9517 Před 6 lety +14

    Phew! I thought it was just me that had "reasons". Don't feel so alone now . Thanks Tony

  • @waderedsox
    @waderedsox Před 6 lety +7

    that wobble when you were cutting the flutes gives me the heeby jeebies

  • @BIG96SMOKE
    @BIG96SMOKE Před 5 lety +16

    I found your channel like last week and this stuff is so interesting I wanna get a mini lathe and start turning and making stuff. Good job, Tony.

    • @BrilliantDesignOnline
      @BrilliantDesignOnline Před 3 lety +2

      You may want to investigate a 12 step program before you get too deep. It's too late for me and probably the rest of us...

  • @michaelboyle9512
    @michaelboyle9512 Před 5 lety +14

    Dude, can ya build me a custom tap? I've got $7.63. Hold on, I'll check the couch.

  • @gerritstijvers7690
    @gerritstijvers7690 Před 6 lety +6

    He Alec here to. I thought he would carve it in with his special potato knife. But this way I learned much more. Thanks TOT

  • @manofausagain
    @manofausagain Před 6 lety +51

    There is a section in the machinist handbook that would show you where you lost a few thou on the profile of that tap. It also has a conversion for "give or take" also a poofteenth , a moonbeam and a smidge. Maybe look for the Australian version they could be metric terms. Fantastic as ever. Love rode mics too.

    • @spuznut8961
      @spuznut8961 Před 5 lety

      Where can you buy one of these books?

    • @1495978707
      @1495978707 Před 5 lety +2

      spuznut Just look up Machinery’s Handbook. They’re past the 30th edition by now, it’s extremely popular and common. www.amazon.com/Machinerys-Handbook-29th-Erik-Oberg/dp/083112900X

    • @YodaWhat
      @YodaWhat Před 5 lety +3

      > a poofteenth
      or as AvE says, "just a blonde one" ;)

  • @button-puncher
    @button-puncher Před rokem

    I want to give Tony a hug. Such an awesome video. So much learnification.
    Moment that made me go HUH in this video: 29vs30 degrees, HSS types, grinding wheel types, heat treating how-to, spindexer taper setup. Thank you ToT for being an excellent teacher.

  • @t4concepts
    @t4concepts Před 3 lety

    This guy just cracks me me up!!!!!!!! ; )
    It's currently 3.00 AM here in France, sat in bed laughing my ass off!
    TOT QUOTES;
    "That feels so much more like, exactly the same"
    "When it comes to chamfers, you don't want to be cutting corners"!
    And of course, educational as well.
    Thanks Tony
    TURK

  • @billstrahan4791
    @billstrahan4791 Před 6 lety +25

    In a perfect world, This Old Tony releases a new video every day.

    • @lodgecav490
      @lodgecav490 Před 6 lety +2

      Oh no, I have to disagree. Every hour!

    • @Rubbernecker
      @Rubbernecker Před 6 lety

      Agreed!!!

    • @adamhotgemini
      @adamhotgemini Před 6 lety +1

      You're all wrong, what we need is a continuous 24/7 live stream.

    • @21mph12
      @21mph12 Před 6 lety +2

      Still wrong. The name of this site would be YouTony.

    • @ThisOldTony
      @ThisOldTony  Před 6 lety +2

      please let me know which of the cats refuses to hit the litter box.

  • @jacksonwillis8683
    @jacksonwillis8683 Před 4 lety +21

    When your cutting oil looks like honey, it might be time to invest in a space heater.

  • @CharlieTechie
    @CharlieTechie Před 3 lety

    As always, laughed a little, groaned a little, and learned a lot! I do believe I enjoy your videos more than any other ones on CZcams. Thank you for putting so much time into making the videos, it makes the difference between good videos and GREAT videos.

  • @tfsupp
    @tfsupp Před 6 lety

    love your humor, thank you from an old fitter & turner who never stops learning.

  • @StripeyType
    @StripeyType Před 6 lety +4

    Timely! Long story short I needed to make a hob so i could make a replacement worm wheel for my snowblower. I wound up just buying the worm wheel, but this is about spot on what I imagined my process would look like.
    Thanks for doing it in a video so I could know I was right just buying the gear. ;D

  • @wheelitzr2
    @wheelitzr2 Před 6 lety +40

    Grinding the back of the flutes will allow the chips to pile up in the thread when you reverse the tap. Most taps are designed with a square back to help keep the chips in the flutes.

    • @Inventorsquare
      @Inventorsquare Před 6 lety +2

      wheelitzr2 Thanks for the tip.

    • @ThisOldTony
      @ThisOldTony  Před 6 lety +10

      excellent point. I should've thought ahead. I wonder if that wasn't why my tap was feeling 'crunchy'.

    • @wheelitzr2
      @wheelitzr2 Před 6 lety +1

      This Old Tony sorry not to be that guy. I really enjoy your videos! Thank you!

    • @amazonianm8876
      @amazonianm8876 Před 5 lety +4

      This is quite correct but commercially made taps have a slight clearance angle ground into rear of the thread profile which reduces the torque required to turn the tap.

    • @barrishautomotive
      @barrishautomotive Před 5 lety

      I had the same thought, but assumed that I was missing something.

  • @christopherflashjohnson3412

    I love how you don't allow your instruction to get bogged down in mundane detail.
    Specifically around 10:00 when you're talking about lead angle.
    "Would it be shallower, steeper? I don't know."
    We all know that you know. But you stay approachable and keep us engaged in the matter at hand.
    Casual professionalism, you have it in spades. Thanks.

  • @markusn1365
    @markusn1365 Před 3 lety

    I wish I had a teacher like you in technical school. The old craft can be glad that today it is possible to learn from people like you on the web! Cheers

  • @Sqwince23
    @Sqwince23 Před 6 lety +25

    "Alright well that feels so much more exactly the same" LMFAO

  • @jasonmusic11
    @jasonmusic11 Před 6 lety +7

    HAHAHA! My heart sunk when you 'broke it" towards the end!

  • @trevorsmales9303
    @trevorsmales9303 Před 6 lety

    Just want to say I only stumbled across your videos about a week ago and i've already watched about 1/3rd of them. Always well made, interesting and with a sense of humour too.
    I am very impressed and hope you make many many more.

  • @workerguy82
    @workerguy82 Před 3 lety

    I will never own a machine shop or so any of these things, but I find these videos oddly satisfying! Thanks old Tony!

  • @PKMartin
    @PKMartin Před 6 lety +6

    "Hopefully you find something useful in there" the sum total of my tap making experience is hacking "flutes" into an M5 bolt with a dremel cutoff wheel. Now I feel like I could try it myself... if I had some ACME rod... and an oxy torch... and a mill...

    • @johncoops6897
      @johncoops6897 Před 2 lety

      LOL - I just watched this video again, 3 years later in Nov 2021... and I thought exactly the same thing as you wrote.

  • @elischultes6587
    @elischultes6587 Před 4 lety +7

    With as many times that I’ve watched this I didn’t put 2+2 together. That this is for the ring roller

  • @morelenmir
    @morelenmir Před 5 lety

    I really liked the 'jump scare' moments of broken tap and oversize threads... I can so easily see myself experiencing exactly those things after five hours in the workshop. If so then both tap and part would vanish as far as I could hurl them into my garden, launched by a train of _particularly_ descriptive Anglo-Saxon slurs.

  • @msheaver
    @msheaver Před 5 lety

    Well ol' Tony, I, for one, learned a few somewhat unrelated thing that I, for one, will have to admit that I, for one, did not know before. Some of those things include, the processes of hardening and tempering, making a trap, and what is O1 and W1 steel. As always, your teaching style is FANTASTIC, and your somewhat dry and twisted sense of humor are just icing on the cake!

  • @madinatore
    @madinatore Před 6 lety +7

    so much effort put into these videos!

  • @mrfrog3350
    @mrfrog3350 Před 6 lety +23

    I hate when my micrometers are off 3 thou or so-give or take.

  • @jasonvanhalle
    @jasonvanhalle Před 6 lety

    "Fundamentally, machining is nothing but a series of emotional struggles." - Line of the decade.

  • @thomashunting9969
    @thomashunting9969 Před 3 lety

    About 5 per cent of the time I find a n instructional video worth taking the time to add my little comment. This is one of them. Great job.

  • @javierpena2052
    @javierpena2052 Před 5 lety +8

    22:43
    You son of a b, I could feel the tap breaking

  • @hurley566
    @hurley566 Před 6 lety +9

    Two heart attacks in one video :D

  • @GtsAntoni1
    @GtsAntoni1 Před 5 lety

    “Alright... that’s feels so much more exactly the same” was fucking brilliant. This was on the level of painting the damned thing blue.

  • @Emcipio
    @Emcipio Před 4 lety

    As always, an educational and amusing production! Well done, Tony.

  • @886014
    @886014 Před 6 lety +6

    Nice job Tony. I believe W1 is a high carbon steel, but it isn't a high speed steel. The two aren't the same. HSS is also high carbon, but with additional alloys to make it high speed.
    Offset thread cutting doesn't require 1/2 the thread angle, and that's a bit of internet forum BS that has just taken off and not even a dose of penicillin seems capable of taking care of that pox! It's a pet hate of mine. So long as the compound is set to LESS than half the thread angle, you're good to go. 29.5 just happens to be chosen as it's half the thread angle (for 60 degree threads) with a bit less for mum. It could just as easy be 27 degrees, 25 degrees, or 29.048921 degrees and nobody will notice the difference. It could also be 0 degrees and then we'd call it plunge cutting ;)

    • @andrewmackey8119
      @andrewmackey8119 Před 5 lety

      i agree , in UK sliver steel= high carbon not HSS, still very good very video.

  • @ramkitty
    @ramkitty Před 6 lety +4

    my heart sank when you pretended to break that tap

  • @christopherbedford9897

    "If, like me, you've tried to shorten the end of a diving board with a pole-mounted pruning saw, you'll know what I mean"
    Yah, I totally identify with that, Tony.

  • @bellowphone
    @bellowphone Před 6 lety

    You're probably getting a swelled head from hearing this so much (actually, "getting" may be the wrong tense), but your videos are a delight to watch. They are quite entertaining, and packed with a great deal of useful information, even for an old-school maker who can always learn more.

  • @dirk4926
    @dirk4926 Před 6 lety +31

    Nothing about catching roadrunners, the thumbnail was very misleading.

  • @warmwaffles
    @warmwaffles Před 6 lety +8

    feels so much more exactly the same

  • @jeffryblackmon4846
    @jeffryblackmon4846 Před 6 lety

    I am much impressed by your skills in making your own tap. Congratulations. Thanks for showing.

  • @SpookyFXdotCom
    @SpookyFXdotCom Před 6 lety

    This at first made me feel like an amatuer in my little shop (never tried cutting a thread on the lathe yet). But then watching your poor man's metal hardening I felt like I could do that (never did annealing before). Thanks for the roller coaster ride of emotional struggles .