The Shadow Entity - How FNAF Portrays Evil
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- There are many forms of evil in the FNAF series, but how exactly are they connected? Nightmarionne and Nightmare have a lot of similarities, the shadow animatronics are still a huge mystery and recent stories in the book series' give us insight on William Afton's evil, manifested.
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I love how this explanation would also be a callback to the fact that Mightmarionne's mask fits a bit strangely over it's bulky head; It's simply a mask for this shadowy, tendrilly entity that presents itself as a fearful reflection!
Absolutely amazing point that I was gonna put in my video but couldn’t find a good place to put it. This ‘shadowy entity’ is probably just a blob of agony which I’d say makes Nightmarionne even scarier!
@@OzoneYT That would also point toward further confirmation that The Blob is another Agony Entity manifested. I had a theory post-SB that the reason we didn't see the Afton Amalgamation in SB was because it hadn't formed yet. The Blob would establish contact with Afton (Burntrap Ending), something would happen and the two would merge, resulting in the birth of the Afton Amalgamation, also coincidentally referred to as The Agony!
@@OzoneYT I tend to think of nightmare as death and nightmarion as a corrupted form of life as its the dark reflection of the marionette and you can think of agony and souls possessing animtronics as life being corrupted but that's just my theory
@@prince_chavv02 if this turns out to be true then maybe sb doesnt fully ruin the lore, it just isnt good at explaining it
@@LaFuzzie Failing to clearly explain the story (or at least not having it revealed in a satisfying way) is unfortunately becoming a commonality in the franchise.
This dude single handedly just explained: Who are the shadow animatronics?
Why do the paper pals move?
And why doesn't FNAF VR Help Wanted not include them? In one video.
Forget Matpad this guy is the real Chad of FNAF theories.
With all the love to MatPat, his theoris recently are not the best and he tend to stretch fact to make them fits to the narrative he want to create and sometimes he forger/"forget" things to make his theories to look legit. his GoldenBoth theory, for me, is the biggest example for it.
@@tomast7339 which one
@@Shubh-qz7pn I think it was the first one. there are two things that really annoyed me in this:
1. he try to create some perfect parallel between Evan and Jake by saying that both of them possessed a doll and then an animatronic. but the thing is that it was never said that Even possessed the Fredbear Plush. the plush was already possessed when Evan was alive.
2. he did not explained how Stitchwairth was created and how two spirits ended up inside of him. he simply said "Stitch has two spirit so Goldie has two spirits". the thing is, that we got a detailed explanation how two spirits were in it. Doctor Phinias put Simon's head and Fetch's battery on the endoskeleton, Simon and Fetch were already possessed by Jake and Andrew. with "forgetting" this explanation, he can create a good parallel and compression between goldie and stitch.
@@tomast7339 yeah now most of his theories look like assumptions
Tomas T I agree, especially with the Hollow Knight theory he made.
I think originally shadow Freddy and Bonnie were part of dream theory, formed out of a fear of shadows of animatronics. But I absolutely agree that it’s now an embodiment of agony in the new continuity
Yeah, totally. I think Nightmarionne was also originally non-canon because there was nothing in the real world to connect to the puppet, unlike Nightmare BB who connected back to the balloon kid outside
I rlly doubt Dream Theory eas ever cano, cosidering someone in steam back in 2015 was like super mad at Scott saying that he ruined FNaF with Dream Theory and Scott just responded with "who came up with that?"💀
@@whocaresaboutthename6850 show me if true
@@whocaresaboutthename6850 Source?
@@whocaresaboutthename6850are you forgetting the fact that during a game theory live stream, Scott started dropping huge hints that lead to the dream theory. And then years later when matpat made the theory that the contents of the box (which represents the story) had changed, Scott confirmed that theory during Dawko’s interview.
Touching on the idea of the shadow animatronics being just agony of past events,
Would explain the random shadow Freddy the fnaf 3 minigames that led the animatronics to safe room.
It's just agonized memory of when the kids were originally lured by William when they were killed.
Wow, I love that connection!
The only question would be why Freddy and not Bonnie? I know he's the mascot of the restaurants but why not Bonnie considering he used exactly that suit to lure the kids
@@undomyexistance5398 Good question, However I don’t there’s a clear reason that isn’t a stretch.
Is also William's evil
So he born before
I never realized how much the books can connect to the games pretty well its shocking
@@glamrockfriend agreed especially since these are old games that there story has been shifted and change and I feel like Scott successfully slowly fixing all of it and making it more sense
But its also really annoying because they could just explain it in the game
@@LaFuzzie that wouldn’t be as fun tbh. Other than that I think it’s very important for them to be separate and the same. The game has its own stories but the books have multiple stories that acts as one
It's like that one Gravity Falls book. They're non-canon but contain crucial elements that are.
Damn, FNAF went from a Sci-fi horror story based around a Chuck-E-Cheese type restaurant to a full blown story written by H.P Lovecraft or Stephan King based around a Chuck-E-Cheese type restaurant REAL quick.
*and I love it.*
PS:
*HAPPY NEW YEAR!* :D
Stephen king actually respects hp Lovecraft's books or atleast his legacy because if I remember correctly he said "H.P. Lovecraft's shadow stretches over the horror community" or something similar
Since dark remnant is described as negative emotions in TUG I think its safe to say dark remnant and agony are the same
remnant is fueled by emotions in general
so really agony is just remnant
it's all the same thing at the end of the day regardless of what matpat likes to think
The buildings themselves also do a great job at showing how shadows and darkness portray evil and death in the series. In FNaF 1, all the hallways and backgrounds end in a pitch black darkness. The kitchen is represented as a dark void on the camera. In FNaF 2, the entrances for the animatronics are dark voids, symbolizing death. Mechanical parts run up the walls like black tentacles. In FNaF 3, black residue stains the walls and pretty much everything around you. The phantom animatronics are stained with the same residue. And then FNaF 4 has the real portrayals of death, Nightmarionette and Nightmare. Both dark beings who don’t violently jumpscare you like the other animatronics, but instead stare at you with a single frame. Sister Location is littered mechanical lines similar to FNaF 2, along with how dark the entire place is. Many story points are shown by shadows. Such as the dead mechanics. Scott definitely did an amazing job showing the dark evil that lurks in the buildings.
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I like this theory. Though, I have a theory of my own about Agony beings. That is, not all (sapient) entities made from it are evil/cause more suffering. It goes all the way back to the original book trilogy, so spoilers! Be warned, it is a long one.
I believe that Charlie (specifically in the Silver Eyes trilogy) is an Agony being. In the last book, the Fourth Closet, it is revealed by Baby that Charlie isn't a human, but a robot created by Henry. What is interesting is that she isn't possessed by a spirit, like the animitronics. (This, by the way, makes book Afton interested in her in the first place)
In the big reveal, when Baby is explaining everything to Charlie and taking her on a flashback trip, she says something interesting. (In reference to the first form of Charlie) Baby says that Henry "Cried into it, bled into it, he poured his grief over it".
Now, that sounds like agony and human suffering if I have ever heard it. And since Charlie isn't possessed by a spirit, this line leads me to believe that she was instead brought to life with Agony.
What's more, I know that Scott had the idea of Agony in his head when Maki this series. In the first book, the Silver Eyes, Charlie and her friends have an interesting conversation. They talk about memories, emotions lingering after an event.
*" 'I don't know, sometimes I have little moments where it's like there's something I forgot, something I regret, or that I'm happy about, or something that makes me want to cry, but it's only there for a split second. Then it's gone. Maybe we're all shedding our fear and regret and hope everywhere we go, and we're catching traces of people we've never met.' "*
Now, emotions having and effect on the environment? That sounds exactly like Agony. Plus, in the epilogue where we are first introduced to Agony, Dr. Phineas Taggart mentions that other emotions gave an effect, though Agony is *much* more powerful.
bravo
You just made some SOLID connections here, man; and I never realized that there are direct quotes from the main series tying the concept of Agony into them as well. Great analysis!
Imagine if like, instead of Burntrap / Afton for the eight time, the new villain of FNAF was the Nightmarionnete or to maybe not dilute it that much, the cult surrounding it, it would be interesting new breath of fresh air and a nice way to continue the lore in a blank slate, yet while still examining the concepts that layed before. It's just a nice idea that has a lot of potential
I always liked the shadow animatronics. At some point, I realized that their mysteries are not actually supposed to be unraveled but are instead supposed to be up for interpretation.(When I say this, I mean that this is how they are integrated into the series. Idk if Scott literally intended it.)
My take on it is that they are the imprint of William's malicious nature in what he was doing at the Fnaf 2 location. Shadow Freddy is just a temporary mirage, but Shadow Bonnie is much more permanent, probably because William obviously spent more time fooling around with the Golden Bonnie-animatronic than the Golden Freddy-one. If it is powered through another soul or is a fully independant(which has additional theories in the fanbase, but it is largely irrelevant), Shadow Bonnie decided to take the form of Toy Bonnie because it is closer to what the character would want to be, a happy bunny to play. It stayed there for decades together with the spirits, to the point where it is just as abandoned and tired as them. While not directly shown, the minigame-events of Fnaf 3 also allow this pseudo-entity to rest, as it helped heal the wounds that the murders originally inflicted. It is later temporarily called back to assist in UCN, but it is noticably more passive than before due to no longer being negatively bound, only darkening the room.
And Special delivery is...eh, idk. Yeah, I apologize, I got nothing with my personal interpretation, I just don't like this "Shadow Remnant"-thing. Though I guess it was sorta unavoidable with remnant being introduced to the games by Pizzeria Simulator, considering the Shadow Animatronics were the closest conceptual things to remnant and agony in the original trilogy.
WOW, I never noticed that Nightmarionne and Nightmare's jumpscare are in the same position. good catch!
what is interesting is that "TALES FROM" book three times teased the return of the Shadow Entity/Agony/Eleanor so I wonder how it will be played in the Ruins DLC
Great video Ozone
Happy new year :)
If Eleanor returns I can die happy, she's been my favorite villain ever since I first read To Be Beautiful. Such a chilling and deceptive character.
@@yeahok8259
Agree
Nice to see a villain who is not an Afton without being underused
And if you read Animatronic Appocalipse, you know she will return someday (and I have a theory that she is the Vanessa clone in SB and the creator of the blob)
If you know anything about depictions of Demons, you see they feed on things like Agony and Despair/ The Weight of Sins. The Darkness. It feels like in William Afton's Envy and Greed, he became a Vessel for Them, and spread them around.
This analogy makes even more sense considering Scott's faith.
Though I have different interpretations of a few points, I think you do a really great job explaining and connecting a lot of these factors in a way that's pretty easy to understand. Great work!
Omg hello ID!
I actually think that Scott may have retracted his statement about the halloween characters being not canon. Since in the survival log we see it confirms Michael is the player in the fnaf 4 dreams and the book also takes place during fnaf 1; so Mike would have actually been able to see mangle, BB, and the puppet for him to be able to make up dreams for them. Since Mike draws nightmare fredbear we could possibly assume he may have drawn the other nightmares in other places causing fazbear entertainment to find them and put them into help wanted.
yoooo, excellent point, I'd totally forgotten that Michael has seen Nightmare Fredbear.
@@yeahok8259Ye, Micheal has the nightmares during fnaf 1 so it'd make sense for him to know of the toys existence and his mind would also come up with nightmare versions of them
michael saw puppet before the bite of 83
This video is an amazing step in the right direction.
The legacy and evil intentions being given life is something that went overlooked in the theorizing community for so long, and it's so refreshing to see it acknoledged.
I may have some slight gripes about the usage of the word Agony for Shadow Remnant, but other than that, fucking awesome video.
PS: I love the pngs :)
Out of curiosity, can you elaborate on your view of the differences between Agony and Shadow Remnant?
@@yeahok8259 Remnant can come from any emotion, any memory. Agony is simply just the most powerful emotion when it comes to remnant. we have seen remnant formed from many sorts of emotions, happy, sad, anger, but Agony is the one that William used the most.
Phineas and Talbert's studies are of the same thing, the only difference is that Phineas doesn't believe in the existence of The Soul, which ultimately leads to his downfall.
Shadow Remnant is basically the entities created from no soul, but the malice and evil intentions of it's surroundings.
Manifested Evil.
When most people say Agony, that concept pretty seamlessly transfers to Shadow Remnant
While I'm not fully convinced that Nightmare and Nightmarrione are one in the same; it's interesting that you mention Afton vomiting a black liquid in 'Room 1280'. Because Nightmare says the following line in UCN: "I will vomit you back, to relive your horror." Something to chew on.
This is actually Not the first time I have heard something similar to this, with nightmare and nightmarionne being the same. The Into the Night podcast had a similar idea, and with you expanding on it this really makes more and more sense. Great theory work!
These Nightmarionne videos really made me change my mind about the character , at first , I thought it was just a regular character that was added for the Halloween Edition of FNaF 4. But looking at them now makes me think about how interesting this character REALLY was, and now he's my favourite FNaF character-
This was such an awesome video to look at. Amazing job. :]
This is so fascinating. Who knew that my favorite character in all of FNAF happens to be the pure embodiment of all evil? Fascinating theory. You earned a sub from me!
Technically... me too! 😂😂
I've seen another CZcamsr theorize that Shadow Freddy is made of William's evil and that Shadow Bonnie acts as a protector of remnant and the kids.
If that's the case, wouldn't it make more sense for it to be the opposite since Spring Bonnie was used to kill kids? And a case of sorts could be made of Golden Freddy/Fredbear being a protector of sorts for the kids?
Maybe they are connected to the Jungian psychological concept of the "Shadow" (which prominently displays in the Persona series)?
William used the golden freddy suit to murder the savethem kids,shadow freddy probable was born from that moment though golden freddy and the murders
@rommelalves4459 didn't the phone guy say that the spring bonnie suit was the onr moved??
Concerning Nightmarionne and Nightmare, I always thought the Puppet being inside Lefty was a slight nod to them being connected. A black bear and a monochrome puppet, together.
I love your new icon! You’re videos are the face of psychological FNAF theorists! Looking at things that others don’t!
Haven’t read Submechaniphonia yet so I’ll save the rest of the video for later, but I find it so strange yet fascinating how there’s this vague yet interconnected substance/entity that seems to have a hand in so many aspects of the franchise. I hope we can get a more solid grasp on what exactly its limits and properties are, but at the same time, the mystery is intriguing.
I mean. It makes sense to make something as simple as shadows be a primary portrayl of evil in a horror game, especially one that’s always set at night where you’re constantly surrounded by nothing but darkness and shadows and will probably feel nothing but painful negative emotions or even some variant of agony when you die to an animatronic over and over or when you’re just generally afraid cause you don’t want to die.
Something about Nightmarion, the fact they're black and white unlike the puppet who has some colours like red and blue. My theory on how they exist is just that the crying child saw a prototype of the puppet. The time line checks out pretty well because at this point it's likely Williams already killed Charlotte but Henry hasn't had time to build the full puppet so he may have seen it unpainted or semi painted and that's why it's missing it's colours. It's minor but it could explain how it could be feasible cannon.
as said in the video, nightmarionne isnt canon in FNaF 4, so crying child didnt see it, they saw nightmare instead, nightmarionne is canon in later games however
This is actually genius, I hope Matpat sees this!
Now if matpat sees this, it could go either two ways. The first and more hope one is that he gets elements of this idea and trys and fit this in his story. The second way is that he tries to disprove the theory and think he is right. I remember a video he did(I'll link it at the bottom of my comment) with another theorist in which matpat kept on inturupting the guy and trying to disprove it at every chance he got.
czcams.com/video/hYvEUAbzJEA/video.html
I hope that he doesnt
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Maaaan, the editing is out of the Window with this one!!!
Absolutely great video with these great new drawings!
And also to everyone, HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
Also I super dig the lil drawn Ozone!! Is he new???
Yeah!! The drawings are amazing! They were done by Ria, her instagram is here: instagram.com/artsymw/
I love that you touch upon themes that I never would have caught or heard about anywhere else. And it always makes so much sense to me, you really help connect the dots and stitch the scattered lore together
Maybe Charlie being William's version of death represents that Charlie could have been William's first victim, which would make sense, because why would a random victim of William be his version of death other than being the first one. And also, (I don't think that this is true but it is something I just realized) What if The one you should not have killed was Charlie? because it was the one which sparked the murderous flame inside of him? idk, but good video mate!
tbh i don't really think charlie is the one you shoude not have killed don't get me wrong it can make senes but something that makes it unlikly for me is this line from withered chica'i haw seen him (or her) the one you shoudn't have killed' see this implys that susie (the girl possessing chica) saw the one you shoude not have killed die and it needed to be somewhere in the mci but she never saw charlie die so yeah.
3:53 bro, that looks like a censor bar
"its a representation of death", he said as a PNG of his character smiled, ear-to-ear, eyes sparkling with pure joy as he crunched his paper in excitement.
Probably not the best way to feel about a living, sentient version of death??
Nice video but Golden Freddy isn't a hallucination because in FNAF 2 he can be seen by both Jeremy and Fritz.
7:30 By this statement, Monster Inc would be even more cursed
After watching your previous nightmarionne video and now this video, your content is so outlandishly insightful and well made I am afraid I have no choice but to subscribe.
Pretty good video! The only thing I wouldce changed a bit is the tone, it is lighter than expected, I liked the tone of part 1 better, but besides that, very well done!
Amazing video. I will add that if Eleanor did use parts of the staff bots to rebuild Jessica like is suggested by the "to and throw" mentality of the sweeping, it would even further connect Eleanor to nightmarionne to the staff bots to death.
My boy Tentacle Terry was a lot more important than I imagined.
being something purely made from agony would probably make your daily life near unbearable
About Nightmarione. I think that Nightmarione is deaths original shape, but she took nightmare's shape(animatronic) because animatronics scared Evan. Also why is nightmarione so simple? In my opinion, that is because it is easier to change shape if your original shape is not that complex. Also. Her name in SB is NIGHTMARE plush, aluding it is Nightmare(animatronic Nightmare not like dream nightmare haha)
Love your videos! Happy new years and god bless you!
"What a child see in the shadows... " the hint from Scott lol.
That's interesting, Nightmare and Nightmarionne being Death that changes faces, and Shadow Bonnie being an entity made from negative dark remnant... jeez, i'd really keep my emotions in check near Freddy's alright.
Also I find it oddly interesting that both of shadow animatronics are also the only 2 animatronics in FNAF 1 that say "Its Me".
Golden Freddy and Bonnie are the only ones that flash in your screen and say its me and they end up being both shadow figures in FNAF 2.
I like the theory that cc was lured to fredbear's diner on the night of midnight motorist and saw Charlie's body with the puppet on top. He thought the puppet killed her and was traumatised. That's why another version of death is a nightmarish version of the puppet
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With how you described The Shadow, do you personally believe that it (being a representation of William's evil) was Eleanor herself or was she just another form it took? It never clicked with me that it could manifest into many different forms like you referenced. I always had the hunch The Shadow was only another way of Eleanor disguising herself. If so, then what other book stories do you believe The Shadow was present? Happy 2023 by the way!
Underrated. Also happy new year!
I love these videos so so much. You have earned the subscribe lol. Thank you for the effort you put in these!
Great work as always man
Nightmarionette is Crying Child the another form of nightmare (that's why nightmarionette is called nightmare in sb. In fnaf 4 we play as Micheal fightting animatronics wich are possesed by CC (he dies in bedroom). Only one thing I don't understand is why S.T.A.F.F bots represents nightmarionette with words "in your dreams" - I can speculate it's wrote by Gregorry to Micheal somehow. We'll se in DLC...
I was always sad about my fav Fnaf Character not fitting in as canon but this guy made my day, I cant wait to see what other theories you have about Nightmarionne next!!!
Love the avatar and keep up the great (and spooky) work!
Since agony based entities have been integrated in the fnaf games with nightmarionne and the shadow animatronics, perhaps nightmare is an agony based entity too.
perhaps he was created when c.c got bitten by fredbear, and instead of possessing fredbear it materialized itself in his dreams, this would also explain why it's a recoloured version of fredbear as it's the source of c.c agony.
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I found this video very interesting
Keep up the good work!
I love your fnaf video essays.
I wouldn't be surprised if the phantom anamatronics had somthing to do with agony, too.
Another thing connecting Nightmarionne and Nightmare is reflection of the Puppet in Pizzeria Simulator. In that game, the Puppet is trapped inside of Lefty, a black bear animatronic. In Fnaf 4, Nightmarionne takes the place of Nightmare, a black bear animatronic. It's not the same relationship between each puppet, but it's still the same general idea of each pair being one and the same.
Lefty has a red hat and bowtie, whereas Nightmare has a gold hat and bowtie though.
@@--CHARLIE-- Yeah, that's true. And they're deviations of different characters, Freddy and Fredbear respectively. But I still think the similarities are there, and maybe not a coincidence.
Yo. Nice job on the vid man. Happy New Year!
you improved the editing!
ever notice how nightmarionne is called nightmare plush in security breach which means that now 2 forms of the puppet have connections to black bear characters being lefty and nightmare
Awesome video as always. Keep up the great work. I wish you a great day from Germany.
Happy New Year
you should make a separate channel for those "documentaries", cuz they're freakin awesome!
1:40 what a fun thing to see at 2 in the morning
Hasn't it been gone over that Golden Freddy isn't a hallucination? That it can genuinely teleport?
I don’t think Nightmarionne is supposed to make sense in the games, or have some kind of rational canon explanation. It fills the spot of death symbolically appearing everywhere in the series. It is simply the opposer to the giver of life. I feel like this outlook on Nightmarionne makes it feel much more obscure and insidious. This isn’t one of William Afton’s strange creations, it’s just death in every corner, every wall, every nook and cranny.
Havnt read the entire video yet but ill say this:
Shadow Freddy = Nightmare
game files proved this since in the game files, Nightmare was outright called 'Shadow Freddy'
This thing came into my mind and somethings from your last video convinced me that NightMarionne might just be the Games version of the adult Charlie bot from the book trilogy. And shadow Freddy/nightmare and shadow Bonnie are the games version of Eleanor. So if Nightmarionne is nightmare, then he might explain on why he is still around because no matter where William goes, death will always follow him also there lines are almost a clear match.
Nightmare: the shadow frears me
NightMarionne: this is a nightmare that you won’t wake from
Nightmare: I will vomit you back to reveal your horror.
Nightmarionne: The nightmare is just beginning
Nightmare: I am here to claim, what is left of you
Nightmarionne: let’s taste death again and again and again.
Nightmare: you will not be spared, you will not be saved
Nightmarionne: this time, Death can not save you
Nightmare: I am your wickedness, made of flesh
Nightmarrione: I am the fearful reflection of what you have created
So yeah I agree that Eleanor shooting black tentacles out of her mouth is a call back to NightMarionne’s tentacles. And this citrate killing people that they bleed black tears out of their eyes. Implieds two things one It proves that William created the shadows in the shadows originated from him because he was part of the stitchwarth until he got pulled out in part six. And two. The tears thing was he meant to tell us that the thing in the The Epilogues is supposed to be a parallel to the puppet. Finally I believe that this video has been telling us that shadow Freddy has been following us everywhere.
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Stumbled across this video on my recommended and I just have to say I fucking love your avatar lol
It really sucks that Samsung phones do not support Five Nights at Freddy's special delivery
i love this theory i might be biased because nightmarionne is my favorite character but it is genuinely interesting
I do have a miner theory of my own that Nightmarionne is less of a manifestation of death, and more of Williams personal demon/sleep paralysis demon. Mainly because of how he speaks about death in UCN
“Let’s taste death again and again and again.”
“This time death cannot save you.”
That last one kind of confirms that Nightmarionne isn’t death since he speaks about death as if it was a separate entity. Also, your point about why it makes sense for William to see Nightmarionne in UCN is also part of my theory. We can assume that William was probably a bit afraid of the puppet, since Charlie’s spirit is in there guiding the other spirits. It would make sense in Williams personal hell for him to see a dark, nightmarish form of the one who caused his first death in fnaf 3. It’s even possible that William could have had nightmares of the puppet before his death. Again, William was probably scared of the puppet because he knew she was “pulling the strings”. Idk, what do you think of my theory?
Edit: Another line form Nightmarionne to add to my theory
“I am the fearful reflection of what you have created.”
Ngl, that makes sense.
And the phone guy in fnaf two said that the puppet is always thinking and can go anywhere, imagine how creepy it is to deal with a smart haunted puppet, and the fact that both Aftons and Emilys were close as friends, I wouldn't surprise if she knows where the Afton house is. The demon using William's fear to taunt him sounds funny at the same time scary
@@habibahbibah777 That’s what I’m saying 😃!! I also wanted to include what phone guy said in fnaf 2 but I had already said a lot.
I like to imagine Nightmare is like a nightmare Lefty, containing Nightmarionne the way Lefty contains the Puppet, but in the Halloween update, the Nightmarionne is freed
Love your new character
I always figured nightmarionne was produced as an agony entity when puppet technically had her happiest day, all that agony had to go somewhere and it formed a sentient dark reflection that can visit afton in his hell.
Hey can I just mention that in help wanted, fnaf 1 I saw “It’s me” on the wall at some point, and it wasnt always there. It was a easter egg referencing Golden Freddy as we know “it’s me” is usually them.
i started this video and upon hearing the music immediately paused and started playing celeste
Great choice
You
I love this idea!!
I'm in love with your avatar
why was my first thought in this video just
"what does the back of your avatar's waistcoat look like"
Ok now do a theory on Mike’s Nightmare form since Nightmare is CC’s and Nightmarrione is William’s
Shadows are a bit weird but this is what the main case seems to be.
The Shadows were formed from the missing kids incident and they are left over Agony that took form. Agony is fuled by Negative emotions. Rage, suffering, evil, pain etc. So the Shadows were made from the suffering of the children and they are the Agony of them. As we know Agony is what gives characters power so the Shadows are definitely powerful characters in the verse.
Another thing to add. Nightmare and Shadow Freddy are the same. Nightmare in UCN says to william "I am your wickedness, made of flesh." This is Nightmare explaining 2 things. As we know Shadow Freddy was formed from Williams misdeeds from the MCI. This also means that Nightmares agony power is fueld by Aftons evil deeds. Nightmare could possibly be the games version of Eleanor. But anyways the Shadows, Nightmare, and Nightmarione are all very mysterious but powerful entities within the lore. And Shadow Freddy in the encyclopedia was hinted to play an important role is the series.
5:23 not exactly… I agree golden freddy isn’t in the game because fazbear entertainment wouldn’t know about him, but remember that he killed phone guy, so it’s not just Micheal who can see him
Super awesome video.
Its obvious that nightmarionne and nightmare are both same, because nightmare is fred bear because you play the child, but nightmarionne is aftobs death,
I like the idea of Agony being representative of evil, but I’m not sure if Nightmarionne is pure agony/ evil death entity. The shadowy tendrils of Nightmarionne aren’t pure black, but have the signature white stripes of the puppet, and even if that’s flimsy evidence, the wires in Security Breach are the same. It’s my personal belief that Nightmarionne is “the fearful reflection of what you [William Afton] have created”, or the reflection of the puppet made from agony, possibly the combination of Charlie’s last remnant and her remaining agony.
I think Nightmarionne and Nightmare are the same, since death tries to take the most horrifying form possible. In the crying child's case, Fredbear was the thing that he was most afraid of/killed him, so it would make sense for the shadow entity to take Fredbear's form as Nightmare.
But William Afton wasn't scared of Fredbear, he was scared of the puppet which is why the shadow entity takes the Nightmarionne form.
This is confirmed by the UCL death voice line: "I am the fearful reflection of what you have created", meaning it's the scarier version of what he created (the puppet).
Nightmare/Nightmarionne appear on the extra FNAF 4 night, due to the crying child's agony and suffering. It's the regular animatronics the first few nights, because he's scared, but on the 5th, he gets bitten and all his nightmares turn into the thing that bit him. The next night is when the crying child dies, and the shadow entity is death itself coming to pick him up.
It also explains why Shadow Freddy lured the children in the FNAF 3 minigames to Afton, it was a form of the shadow entity formed by William's evil.
To be fair, Chills would solo all of these… he’s already took down Springtrap
nice use of celeste music!
Remember how you showed us the hidden eyes of nightmarionne?
When i focus on his eyes enough i can barely see the eyes without any filter
And then what was up with Shadow Freddy appearing in FNAF 3 leading the animatronics to their dismemberment and then appearing in the FNAF 3 office and then apparently in the files of FNAF 4 he's also nightmare?
I have a theory that nightmarionne is an entity made of all the agony of william's victims, this would explain why in ucn he says that he's a fearful rappresentation of his creations, he is the living embodiment of the agony william created, which is also why he resembles the puppet as the spirit possessing the puppet was william first victim.
Also in the books it's said that agony give life, even if simple to the object containing it, so nightmarionne even if it's entirely made of agony must be related to an object, and it'd clearly his mask.
I also like to think that when the puppet broke down during the day charlie died, henry scrapped some materials when he was fixing it, and these included his mask,
that mask would later became alive thanks to the agony contained in it, creating nightmarionne, however it's also important to note that nightmarionne isn't savage like the other agony based entities and seems to be more rational, so Perhaps it started as a smaller entity which grew to his current size gradually as it was assimilating agony.
One thing that I haven't seem anyone else point out is that the puppet is linked to a black bear in the form of lefty, meanwhile the nightmarionne is also linked to a black bear in nightmare. If anything this strengthens the idea that nightmare and nightmarionne are one in the same
All Nightmares seem supernatural
With everything being haunted by agony that takes up people’s memories, this could mean that the remnant used to make the animatronics possessed was not made by someone’s soul, but someone’s pain. These animatronics came to life literally by someone’s suffering. It could also be why golden freddy and the puppet are particularly powerful, as the suffered the worst.
The child that died to the golden freddy was tormented by his brother, forced into the robot, something he feared immensely, and perished with an intense mix of fear and anger, being spiteful to his brother for putting him through so much.
And we all know how the puppet gets possessed, clutching the body of a young girl that was betrayed by the others and murdered by a twisted and cruel man.
If this is true, the dead never actually possessed anything, just the pain and suffering they left behind, finding shelter in the objects around it. Micheal was never truly haunted by his brother, but the feelings that he had to him.
It could also explain why, even after afton’s death, the animatronics were still possessed, as pain if the past never dies off.
Also having agony hold memories might also be why some of the animatronics would act the way they do.
I suppose, if anything, this theory can put those at ease that those poor kids are no longer suffering, as they left their torment behind.