Meeting with Bilawal and Communism in Pakistan - Ammar Ali Jan - TPE
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- čas přidán 11. 04. 2020
- Ammar Ali Jan has a doctorate degree in History from the University of Cambridge. Ammar has taught at GC and PU. Recently, Ammar got into hot waters on Twitter for calling PTI a fascist party, and people questioned Ammar's meeting with Bilawal Bhutto last year.
Ammar comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss that meeting, why he faced sedition charges and got picked up in the middle of the night, and how we views the future of communism in the world, and Pakistan.
The Pakistan Experience is a podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan, and Pakistanis, through the lost art of conversation.
Love this man so muchhh. Could've listened for hours.
Yes please start your own podcast Ammar! Need so many more of these lectures ❤
This is by far my favorite episode. You have shed light on various important issues but this is by far the most blatant depiction of the reality we are living in. Its most certainly a very ugly reality. I commend your efforts, efforts of Ammar Ali, and all those who are initiating the uncomfortable conversations.
great discussion shahzad. Keep it up...
Fantastic discussion!
Zabardast discussion 👍👍
I wonder how come the host is still not abducted by agency😅😅
Keep it up! Tides are coming, never compromise on rules and btw thank you for this awesomeness
I don’t have words to explain that thing “PAKISTAN”
Keep it up proud of you Sir ❤️
Hats off to you Ammar 😊👏❤
inspiration........Ammar jan
Real hope for future of Pakistan.
Need to redefine power relations, industrialization to meet human needs, committees to empower marfinalized and under privileged...so many great ideas. hope.we get to see more people jpining and raising their voice.
Cheetah amaaar Ali Jan.
Pakistan is basically punjabi military establishment with imperial control over Sindh Balochistan & Pakhtoonkhwa.
This is so amazing 💓🚩🚩
Great discussion. Loved it! Please invite Shehzad Roy!!😭
Wonderful conversation but I think you should use more Urdu so more people can listen and connect in Pakistan.
Also call Sarmad Khoosat please!!(to talk about Zindagi tamasha) etc.
Salute to Ammar 🎶
Interesting discussion, specially the first part, anecdotes are often always more interesting than ideologies and philosophies, but hey what do I know. Good work on these podcasts Shehzad (just discovered these today!!), if Manzoor Pashteen is still active, why don't you have him on one of the podcasts? I'm a Pashtun myself but never really liked Manzoor and not entirely sure of his agenda. Having said that, calling anyone that demands some rights "a raw or foreign agent" seems to have become a norm in Pakistan and our brainwashed society at large acquiesces into this travesty by the state. Would be good to know his side of the story.
Sorry for asking this question so late but i feel like this conversation (so far 53 minute) is devoid of the discussion of productivity that capitalism brings and how the new solution you guys are offering will match that productivity? You referenced corona virus but IMO it is important to mention that it was the profit motive for big pharmas such that they produced the vaccine in such a short time period. or am I not seeing the complete picture here?
@ThePakistanExperience bro please do a session on anarchism too. Let the people know about this unique concept and why so many people believe in it? and how would a stateless society function?
Kudos to yqoqu Shehzad beta. Really admire the courage and optimism of your guest. My only request is that your and your guests mQust speak in Urdu as much as possible so the ordinary person can understand.
Also please invite Jawad Ahmed.
Yaqeen nahi ata there are ppl like him in this world
Pakistani young guns go all the way
cambridge uni ka banda aur 30k pay. Shame on this system
Shame on you, you're favoring the Capitalism by speaking for wage disparity. Bloody Petty Burgeiose! Jab hum inqilab layeingay tou petty burgeiose will face the greatest brunt, the burgeiose system is not run by the actual burgeiose but the petty burgeiose, You. Our revolution would be no fun, every Chowk and U-Turn would turn into a fansi-ghat. Tumne parha hai what Lenin has to say about that in 'The State and Revolution'?
I agree with him on social issue, but totally loose me on economics concept of socialism/communism...their is no system in the world that took people out of poverty then capitalism
Nothing wrong with capitalism but corporate capitalism is horrid.
Sapna Sahil Corporate capitalism is a misnomer. It’s real name is “corrupt politicians” perverting the spirit of capitalism
Bro you kept speaking over Ammar. Not your best interview.
khooda pahar, nikla chooha .
I thought this was Intellectual person but unfortunately he is another Marxist.
You were enjoying the "intellectual"-ness until you recognized his Marxist leanings. How does that belie his intellect? Secondly what is wrong with Marxism?
@@immasavagebro2845 Because he is simply another leftist hack as he conflates "capitalism" & "colonialism"?
Socialist USSR was invading & occupying countries.
Also from the historical context that communism & socialism has been the most murderous ideology throughout the 21st century & the practical implication, that it is inherently a totalitarian ideology where private trades & businesses cannot exist. In fact, private property is abolished altogether.
Most importantly, it is incompatible with Islam. The concept of private property is well established in Islam. Whereas communists believe in expropriation & abolishing private property. They refer to themselves as 'anti-capitalists'.
If you read the definitions of the word, "capitalist", "capitalism" & not arbitrary interpretations of some left wing hacks. Then you'll learn that Muhammad, Khadija & the Rashidun Caliphate were business owners. Hence, they were literally "capitalists" by definition.
This is a Islamic state & NOT a secular one. The people who want to keep it that way are the overwhelming majority.
In a true democracy, a minority simply does not matter at all. The left leaning & liberal bloc here couldn't even make up for 1% of the electorate.
This minority anti-Islamic bloc is absolutely irrelevant and the majority always has the choice to decimate it whenever it seems fit.
@@ggt8194
So, your version , whenever, you deem fit -- your sweet will -- you'll decimate the minority voices !!
Then,
what does fascism mean ?
Regard
@@fizaa6975 Fascism is a political system that is rotted in a dictatorship.
However, if well over HALF of the eligible voters, VOTE to brutally wipe out a specific minority, who they deem as a threat, via law enforcement means, then that is simply the majority exercising their democratic rights via a democratic system.
@@ggt8194
Perhaps , you're not aware of the inherent value of Democratic values.
I am not referring to the democracy in the dev world, just look at our constitution.
To increase the inclusiveness, we have minority MPA,MNA and senators too, alll aimed at avoiding the majoritorian rule.
Besides, we have seats for women.
This all is to avoid "decimating the numerical minority".
Got it?
Guest itni achi bat kar raha hota aur tum apna aik lame sa joke le atay ho🙄
Bhai Koi intresesting nhi bol sakta to irritate to na kiya karo.
WATCHER I think Shahzad did an awesome job....joke and fun is a nice addition of these type of conversations. otherwise host interviewing guests will look like freedom fighter who is on bhook hartal for 3 months, which is kinda same job as our media does
Finally someone said that.
Pakistan has seen 70 thousand dead because of war on terror
In war's there are issues of trust
look at shakil Afradi, look at using Polio Vaccination to get DNA sample of OBL family
It is sad what happened to Ammar Ali Jan, but PTI government is trying to improve things. Please give it some time.
And why did you need a war on terror? Who was responsible for allowing terrorist do much power and influence in Pakistan? Accountability must be fixed. varna yeh dobara hoga.
why is he confusing colonialism with capitalism?
@@ThePakistanExperience No, he doesn't know the difference at all. A degree in humanities isn't worth to brag about either. It's also hilarious seeing leftists and liberals espousing meritocracy all of a sudden when it comes to their worthless humanities degrees.
Now, going strictly by the DEFINITION of the word "capitalist", and not arbitrary interpretation of left wing hacks. Then its very easy to learn that Muhammad, Khadija & the Rashidun Caliphate were business owners and hence they were literally "capitalists" by definition.
The concept of private property is well established in Islam whereas communists believe in expropriation & abolishing private property.
Hence along with this and other reasons as well, Islamic ideology and left wing ideology are incompatible.
As far as "colonialism" is concerned, the USSR also invaded & occupied countries.
So there goes the straw man.
Well the East company was a corporation for starters.
Land was owned by communities in India before the British came in. The concept of private property came with the introduction of the private law in India. Industrial capitalism never came about organically it was introduced as an extractive method of production by the British empire in India
@@AA-kd4kd Private property has almost always existed. There is no "private" ownership of land in China, and they have private property.
@@ggt8194 the funniest thing about your comments is how confident you are when you’re wrong. If owning property was all that is required for capitalism then capitalism has been around since the ancient romans or ancient Chinese.
Anchor YOU ARE ANNOYING.....DONOT KEEP INTERRUPTING ....
Pakistan ka kuch nai hoskta bhai... run away ... save your life
Stop speaking over the guest Shehzad.
jahan pay hamari soch khatam hoti hai wahan say agencies ki soch shroo hoti hai
Our agencies always think about our better
It is a good formula, speak against PTI and Imran Khan
get media attention
Once have the attention, fulfill your agenda / load off you anger against PTI/Pakistan/Army etc
He believes in communism, really 😂