Sir Alex couldn’t deal with Wenger | All To Play For S02 E07
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- Arsenal legend Lee Dixon joins Joe Cole and Steve Sidwell in the Coral All To Play For Arms. They reminisce over Arsenal’s famous back four, they chat about Arsene Wenger and the impact he made on English football.
Plus, they highlight the players in the current Arsenal team that have the ability to help turn their season around.
00:50 - Introducing Lee Dixon
01:36 - Arsenal's 'Famous Back Four'
04:45 - What made that Arsenal Back Four so good?
10:00 - What was it like playing with Tony Adams?
17:25 - How did Arsène Wenger change Arsenal?
23:35 - How fierce was the Arsenal vs Man Utd rivalry?
27:15 - Dixon on Arteta
31:00 - Ramsdale, England No.1?
32:48 - Emile Smith Rowe, Arsenal's new talisman?
40:30 - Coral Football Super Series Game
41:51 - Becoming an 'Emirates Legend'
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Lee Dixon Unsung hero , arsenal legend !!
The United arsenal rivalry will never be beaten. The managers, the players, the toxicity was absolutely brilliant.
I know now they compete for the banter fc title
The Chelsea-Liverpool rivalry back then from always playing each other in big matches in cup competitions is a highly underrated rivalry for me
It's been beaten with pep and jurgen
Enjoyed this. Dixon and the other four defenders including Martin Keown will remain to be the best defense English premier league-even the world has ever seen.
I love Keown; he is the 'other' Mr Arsenal for me. But not Lee, he's a bit deluded and annoying sometimes.
The world?! Better than AC Milan with Baresi and Maldini that won multiple European Cups? Baresi and Maldini played 196 times together at centre back. You wouldn't even guess at how many they conceded. Ready?
23
23 goals conceded in 196 games together.
The world??? The delusion on this channel and the comment section is fit for an otherworldly experience!!
@@dickmonkey-king1271 I’m an Arsenal fan and I can easily say that Arsenal back 4 is nowhere near one of the best ever.
Lee Dixon. Endearing guy. Very humble.
I grew up watching the back 4 play and even had Dixon's number 2 on the back of my bruised banana away shirt. Loved this interview.
Seen Dixon and the rest of our famous back 4/5 at Highbury a few times in the mid-late 90s.
The original back 4/5 was the one that won the league at Anfield in '89: Dixon, Adams, Bould, Winterburn and O'Leary.
We re-signed Martin Keown a few months before O'Leary left us to join Leeds United in '93. Possibly with the knowledge that O'Leary was leaving us.
Love Dixon, a real legend and down to earth as well.✊🏿👊🏿🙏🏿
As a lifelong Chelsea supporter, I've seen Dixon play live a good few times as an opponent and I can recall on more than one occasion I've applauded him for his ability on the pitch 👏👏👏
I enjoyed that and the humility of Lee Dixon who has come a long way since my fellow Millwall fans taunted him at Highbury with ."If Dixon Plays For England, So Can I" followed by a rotating sea of hands a la Spartacus which was not one of Lee's finest.A memorable night for me, who was booted and suited after working in the City as the Millwall End was heaving and full so I came in through the side North Bank turnstiles and climbed into the pitch as if I was an Official who should be there and walked the length of it, randomly, pointing to invisible people in the Stands and when I reached the Millwall end,I revealed my Blue and White Scarf and got let into the Millwall Section. The evening went downhill faster than Jean-Claude Killy, thereafter:)
humility? ....hmmm 'most famous back four in English history' ? and he doesnt blink!... Charlton, Moore, Cohen and Wilson for a start...
Much as I hate The Arse, that back 4 of their's went thru' 38 games unbeaten in one season alone not just a handful of Internationals when we had Home advantage:)
Another thing, why isn't the likes of Adams, Dixon and Keown at Arsenal to assist with training our defence?
We had Keown during our CL run to the final in '06. And we had the record, I think, for conceeding the least goals in the competition.
@@firstnamesurname5376 That was then, this is now.
Lee Dixon, absolute legend. My favourite defender of that period. Throughly deserves his place on that mural.
Great interview! Loved the insight
Love this (A Gooner all the way from South Africa)
Great interview ( I guess more if you're an arsenal fan like I am) I loved there part where he had to always be at his best otherwise he'd get dripped. It took a team mate he held in high esteem like tony Adams to tell him how what a hell of a full back he was in his last game. That put a lump in my throat.
Quality content lads.
Great insight on George’s view of defending.
the last bits were beautiful.
brilliant interview
Great guy what a Legend
Pound for pound Wenger was the greatest manager in Premier League history. Had the bank not insisted wages we’re reduced to just 50% of turnover, at a time when oil owners arrived, his legacy would be even more impressive. Incredible what he achieved considering he spent peanuts on mostly unknown players. He did it playing entertaining, expansive football a far cry from ‘boring, boring Arsenal’.
look at the team fergie won the league with n 2011 and reached a CL final that same season, or even look at how much he spent in the summer of 06 to take the title off chelsea.. he won the league by 13 points in his final season and 6 moths later everybody was saying moyes doesn't have a squad good enough to win it.. as good as wenger was, fergie was by far and away the greatest pound for pound coach in the history of the PL mate
Well this is absolute bollocks. Fergie is clear. Jesus Christ.
13 Premier League titles says something different.
@@grassrootsfootball225 Fergie won it with a player Wenger made. This proves my point, Fergie only won the title because of Van Persie.
@@kevind6956 so how come wenger never won it with RVP if that was the only reason fergie won it in 2013?? youtube fan logic man hahah always good for a laugh
Lovely interview, proper gunner
Fabulous!
Joe Cole forgetting the back 4 that cost less than 5 million quid that went unbeaten 🤦🏻♂️
Excellent craic
He dealt with Wenger many many times
Sids is a really good presenter. Sky sports sign him up.
Such an interesting interview - especially as an Arsenal fan. We all know Arsenal inherited that defence from George Graham - but he did make the invincible defence himself and for less than £5mil - Cole, Campbell, Toure, Lauren & Lehmann. But after that, some of the defenders we had were shocking, and Lee saying that Arsenal maybe didn’t have it in him to coach a back 4 - maybe the invincible players were just that good that they took the mantle. We’ve had some single decent defenders, but never built that proper unit since then. Closest I could remember would be Koscielny/BFG, with Clichy & Sagna?
The Invincible back 4 went a season unbeaten. In our Champions League run we made the final without conceding a goal. If you think that’s not done with coaching, I don’t know what to say.
@@kevind6956 based it on what Lee had said in the interview though - about Wenger's ability to coach a back 4. We never had a back 4 like that again after that, so thought maybe it was down ti whatever coaching there was PLUS them being exceptional defenders.
clichy a shocking defender. always far too away from the other teams man.
AND he was responsible for us drawing in birmingham in THAT game. never forgave him for that.
@@jeannotschumacher1024 players make mistakes in big games and easy to look back with a sour taste, but i get what you mean- Vieira gave the game away in the semi V United, and the rest was history. Just meant in terms of a unit afer the invincibles, we never had a defence after that which got close. The Kos/BFG partnership was maybe the closest though i thought off the top of my head. He was better than Andre Santos at least 🤣
@@guychapman6797 fuck , i remember these 2 semis clearly. you hace to give credit to schmeichels save, because dennis took it well. it wasn't a bad penalty.
but you are right. big mistake by vieira. a shame that petit left so early.
big blow to us.
Giggs and ginola both said dixon was their toughest opponent as left wingers...that says it all.
Never knew lee Dixon was a childhood man city fan
That’s where he’s from
Arsenal vs Man Utd rivalry was one of the all time gr8 rivalries - but Chelsea supplanted Arsenal exactly at the moment FaceBook, Twitter, InstaGram, Apple-IPhone, Androids (Smart Phones & Social Media) entered the world & the Global fan base exploded & Arsenal & Wenger as a Multiple Prem Winner feels like it's from a Lot longer ago than it really was
It’s like how United took over after Liverpool exactly the moment sky came maybe city or someone could be next as we near even more access via VR and better gaming
When the bank insisted Arsenals wages did not exceed 50% of turnover, it was game over. Players were regularly sold & we had to look to prospects. At the same time, the oil clubs started to flex their muscles.
I love that. Tony taught Ashley, that says it all and why he went to Chelsea, defensively Wenger;s weakness is in keeping the best players at Arsenal, were he failed in this area cost us more titles.
We couldn’t afford to keep them. Wenger didn’t want to sell them. Cole went to Chelsea because of spending restrictions. The bank had an agreement wages couldn’t exceed 50% of turnover. Most teams run at 90%. He didn’t want to sell those players but had no choice. Chelsea & City we’re financial draws for players. As he improved players their value increased along with their wages. Some of the Wenger knocking is based on ignorance. Read the book or watch the Wenger Dean audience. So much is repeated that’s complete untrue.
Get off your bike you muppet.
The PL is a big fraid.
Sadly most corps want profit and more so there is gonna be fraud going on.
The ffp has been a total waste of time, might as well never existed.
Firstly fergie was outspending everyone buying players including the refs.
Now Chelsea and manshitty have their corrupt oil money, and doing what fergie basically did for years.
The world cups on Russia and soon to be Qatar show how much fraud there is.
How come the PL is so controversial and the refs are complete shit in PL?
Go figure.
Ashley went because 60K per week was not enough.
Niceeeeeeeeeeee Hat
Poor Keown. Lol
Also Parlour... lmao. Best fren ever.
Was the best defence in the world,and midfield and best striker in Henry at the time
Is that why thet never won a single european trophy?? So bloody deluded all u Assnal clowns 🤣🤣🤣
@@mloose7870 who's deluded you muppet?
I bet your ManureUrine Marinated armchair.
Arsenal do have a European trophy dumbass!!!
🥴
Interesting to hear Dixon talk about Wenger arriving at the perfect time with having an amazing back 4. I've always thought that's why he fell off in later years as he failed to replace those leaders at the back. Graham + Wenger would've been the perfect combo if you could take the strengths from both.
They had all retired when he did the invinceable season
He literally had only keown left of the back four when he did the invincibles so you are a manure Urinated armchair fan who is talking rubbish.
The defence cost less than 5million that didnt let a goal in for CL 2006 until the final where etoo scored from offside position.
Wenger way better than teynat fergie who had david chief executive of both manure AND the FA.
@@amajeet Fuck knows what you're going on about, but the point stands. Wenger never got his defence right after they had gone. If you listen Dixon says Adams etc took Cole and the like under their wing. Campbell was a no brainer signing and we never replaced him. Its not slight on Wenger to say that defence was not the area he excelled in
I think Arsenal fell off when he didn't replace the anchor man in midfield, and went for the tipy tappy type players. A successful team always needs an anchor man, a Viera, Fabinho, Busquets, He lost that, which is why, I think, it started to go pear shape (many more problems than that, but that change was the start)
@@rigsby1454 So how did he go unbeaten? How did Arsenal become the only team to reach a Champions League Final without conceding a goal. The other thing is, Wenger didn’t build defensive teams Graham did. So to play attractive football and still achieve what Wenger did defensively, is incredible. It amazes me how some fans have plenty to say and do so aggressively when they don’t know what they’re talking about.
Seriously no way sir Alex couldn’t deal with Wenger. I don’t think the mind games bothered any one of them. Yes thank god you ain’t Martin Keown. You are original and genuine and still undecided if it’s you or Neville for Right Back. Just my opinion but Martin Keown was a our footballer who does not have humility etc. Lee Dixon top man
Wenger was quieter and smart with his words that's why fergie couldn't deal with him.wenger used to get fergie angrier and angrier, wenger got under fergies skin and always made Fergus lash out.
I clicked on this thinking it was Brian Johnson from AC/DC
32:00 comment of the day 👍
Always baffles me that Lee Dixon is northern. He looks like he’d have been a Norf London painter and decorator in an alternate existence
Should have asked him about Maguire🤨
How can Joe say Wenger didn't create a back line, has he never heard of the invincible's?
Wenger has mellowed. He was a gracious winner but a miserable, horrible loser.
He said of Giggs's wonder goal in the FA Cup semi final, "He got a few lucky bounces".
Well not in the same class as evil tryant fergie who dared anyone to challenge him!
He prick throws his dummies out.
Best fergie would do was pick fights with Keegan, Arsene and rafa.
They'd all run rings around on a pitch and kick his ass back to glasgow of it were a fight.
Fergie had late night parties with media lot and referees and they got rip up his bum lifting his tardy kilt.
Would 8-2 be an arsenal fan
Can't watch something that has a controversial thumbnail just to make people click 😂
I'm a West Ham fan I have no love for Liverpool. In my personal opinion Liverpool had the best back 4 ever in the late 70s early 80's which only conceded 12 goals in 42 League games one season and 16 The Following season, which Arsenal is back 4 can't match
He couldn’t deal with wenger, 😂he just made sure when the chips were counted at the end of the rivalry his stack was bigger.
Fergies chips were his sweaty balls offered to the referees.
I think the refs shafted fergie for favours instead as they were calling the decisions on the field.
@@amajeet yeah ok, that’s some reply. You got me there. Relax now before you hurt your brain cell.
@@roamey I'm fine thanks
"Dad you were quite good wasnt ya?".... bloody kids... what have ya gotta do to get some respect LOL!
That's a click bait title if ever I see one. If you say so Lee 😂😂
how can it be clickbait when he literally says it
@@2001drdre if you believe what he says that's up to you but we all know it's nonsense
@@stuartmeyer2362 irrelevant whether it's true its not clickbait cos he says it
@@2001drdre it doesn't matter if he said it or not. He's made a comment that people will pounce on and click to see what he said and the video makes that it's thumbnail to get clicks. Therefore clickbait
@@stuartmeyer2362 you think he said this so the video would perform better?
There’s a reason you didn’t want Keown in the picture. He wasn’t in same class as you guys. Call it as it is. This fear you guys have of Keown is deluded. He ain’t a hard man, he’s a quarter of Adams, Terry, Carragher at best
Carra 😂😂😂
Alan Shearer said Keown was the toughest centre half he ever played against.
Adams, Terry yes.... Carra 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 clueless you, Paul
@@pgl0897 think you will find he said Adams was the toughest lol
Sir Alex couldn’t deal with Wenger?
How many trophies did Ferguson win compared to Wenger?
Lol.
Everything is not about trophies.Wenger and Arsenal frustrated Sir Alex alot
Ferguson could not deal with Wenger? In that case Sir Alex would simply not cope in a Tuchel, Guardiola, Kopp, Conte universe.
If Ferguson couldn't deal with Wenger why didn't Wengers Arsenal win more; back to back championships.. champions league.
The much over hyped Arsenal back four is grotessquely over rated. They lacked pace ( it was concealed by Highbury bding a narrow pitch ).
United had better central defenders; Stam/Johnson/Pallister were better than Adams/Bould/Keown. With the exception of Pallister, the Arsenal slow London buses enjoyed much longer as I said over hyped careers.
The United defensive backline in 93-94/98-99 were faster, more fluid, had more technical ability, more flexible.
This is the wally who said live on tv that cesc fabregas is better than christiano Ronaldo ,
It shows in the trophies wenger won lol vs Sir Alex lol
Look at the records.. Fergie built many teams and won the champions League twice. Wenger isn't in the same league
Arsene didn't care???? He was always ranting and raving and whinging.. the whole Arsene professor thing lasted about 1 season. Then United dominanted and the real Wenger came out
That was the second half of his arsenal reign
@@JoeCool90 nah. Watch any of the games they lose after the first season and he's ranting and raving. Very good manager no doubt but 3 titles in what 20+ years?? Not top 3
Ultimately fergie got the better of wenger.. Remember 02/03
No he didn’t.
@@kevind6956 mate he won 5 league titles after wengers last title.. wenger won many a battle but fergie won the war absolutely no debate
@@grassrootsfootball225 Of course there is a debate. Fergie did a great job but he did it with a club that had unlimited funds. Unlike Wenger he never had to sell players. The stadium ended Wengers success. Winning by procuring unknown talent is a lot harder than winning by buying success. Fergie never found an Henry he bought Cole, Nistelrooy & Cantona.
@@kevind6956 ignorane is bliss my friend.. fergie took over in 86 when the club hadn't a smidgen of the money we have now, he built us up.. we weren't backed by a wealthy foreign benefactor, every big money signing was a risk.. cantona was the catalyst for our early domination and he cost just over a million, the class of 92 helped immensely too n they cost nothing .. look at his squad that reached the CL final in '11.. fergie didn't dominate because of the money he dominated because he was able to rebuild.. wenger never rebuilt and yes there is absolutely no debate that fergie got the better of wenger.. it says more about you mate if you disagree in truth
@@kevind6956 n for the record he found ronaldo who some say is the goat.. he also found roy keane, he found wayne rooney, shit man he even discovered ryan giggs before his name was Ryan Giggs.. why you talking bs man
Bahahahaha. Sir Alex couldn't deal with Wenger? And that's no bias from Dixon, of course lol. Seriously, Wenger transformed you from a club that was duller than ditchwater into a club that played great football but over the course of the time he was at Arsenal, from when he arrived from Japan to when he retired, United dominated Arsenal and all other clubs in the league. 3-0 at home in '95; 6-1 at home in '01, 4-2 away in 2005, 4-0 at home in '08, 8-2 at home in '11. 8-2!!! We made you look like a Conference side that day!!! 😂
You do know that after 2006 we had huge financial restrictions? Fergie managed the biggest club in the world and could buy anyone he wanted. He also never had to sell players. Had Wenger been manager of Utd they would have at least one unbeaten season…! After 2006 it was game over. Wages had to be cut to 50% of turnover, most teams ran at 90%. We started selling to the oil clubs & Barca and had to rely on prospects while making a profit. Wenger was handcuffed.
Might be a bit controversial but I always rated George Graham above Wenger as the best Arsenal manager in my mind. Assembling that back four for peanuts, developing them into probably the greatest back four ever, picking up Seaman for £1m, very few foreign players in his tenure, bringing through the likes of Adams, Keown, Thomas, Rocastle & Merson. Spent comparatively much less on transfer fees than Wenger but still won 2 titles, 1 FA Cup, 2 League cups and a Cup Winners Cup. Also, who used to go to Liverpool in those days and won 2-0 when the title was on the line.
I'm saying this with all due respect......you're out of your mind
@@antv4408 And I’m saying this with no respect, I’m not out of my mind. I still have all my marbles intact
My god, I’ve heard some bollocks. I can remember being bored Shiitless at some of the defensive dross Graham served up. Sure there were some great teams but he was bland. For years we became boring Arsenal. Wenger arrived and suddenly we became the entertainers. He bought in players of incredible talent for peanuts. Henry, Vieira, Anelka, Pires, Freddie, Gilberto Silva, Fabregas etc. Endless. He built a team that went unbeaten, won two doubles & reached a Champions League Final without conceding a goal. Selling Anelka paid for a state of the start training ground to replace a shared facility with a school. The Emirates stadium shafted him. The bank insisted wages ran at 50% of turnover, that killed his plans for future success. Still the legacy is far superior to that of Graham. Both did great jobs but their football was chalk & cheese.
@@kevind6956 If it was down to Wenger, he be there till he was wheeled out in a body bag. Wonder why the board gave him no choice but to go. Because he’d become bollocks
That George Graham team was awful to watch and from 1991 to when he left in 1995 they were also very poor in the league. So what you is not controversial; it's just plain wrong.
Shows how football tactics are so stupid. So now wingers are being shown inside coaches put wingers on the opposite wing so when they are shown inside they are on their favourite foot. Now nobody goes on the outside. What happened to do what's appropriate for the situation?
Love Lee, but I closed my eyes and I heard Karl Pilkington speaking at times…
Who’s he trying to fool?😂
pretty sure fergie won most ,stats n titles mate
Funny how fergie could not live with wenger when wenger was second best most of the time, strange
What a load of rubbish. Man Utd had resources above every other club. They could sign whoever they wanted and nobody wanted to leave. When Wenger arrived, he spent bugger all, won two doubles and went a season unbeaten. Where’s Fergies unbeaten season? Wenger Was hugely restricted on spending, Fergie wasn’t. Wenger outsmarted the bully. Anyone who watched the bent 50th game also knows how much help Fergie had.
@@kevind6956 For most seasons, United weren't the biggest spending club in the Premier League. Oh they would splash the cash and break a transfer record or two on one big player every season or two but they typically didn't buy lots of players every season. They didn't need to as they had players who came through the youth setup. Ferguson was very good at refreshing and rebuilding over time.
As for the unbeaten season, it was a good achievement but in the end it still only resulted in one trophy. Arsenal didn't go unbeaten in every competition, just the league. I'm not knocking it, 49 games unbeaten in the league is a hell of a thing. But I'd rather have a treble.
And yes, in the 50th game United basically kicked the crap out of the Arsenal players. It was dirty. It was ugly. But I think the biggest damage it did to Arsenal was that it showed everyone else that Arsenal could be bullied. In the following years, other teams went after Arsenal physically. The days of Adams, Vieira etc were going and Wenger was bringing in younger, technical players who played good football but who could be bullied, not just by United but by other teams. Arsenal gradually lost the steel that had been part of what made them great.
In the end, the rivalry wasn't even close. Ferguson finished with 13 league titles, Wenger finished with 3 and the fact that Arsenal sold their best player to United in Ferguson's final season sums up how much the rivalry had faded. Wenger and Ferguson were practically friends by the end, largely because Ferguson no longer considered Arsenal a threat. Once Chelsea and later Man City got involved, that was kind of the end for Arsenal. Frankly I think Wenger did a great job in his final years maintaining Champions League football and when you look at how far both clubs fell when Ferguson and then Wenger retired, it's clear just how important those two men were to their respective clubs.
Arsenal are on a Highway To Hell with their current owners...is that why he's cosplaying as the AC/DC singer Brian Johnson..?
Hahahah brilliant
Who's he kidding?
He isn't kidding anyone. His first season he won the league and fa cup. Got handed a team that was drinking in the locker rooms. While fergie had Beckham, Scholes, keane and giggs.
Dixon looking great for his age
@@Biancco. never managed to keep it tho.. Fergie owned it
@@grassrootsfootball225 Did I say otherwise
@@Biancco. you stated he's kidding no one and followed it up with the fact he managed to win the league.. But he never retained it whereas fergie did in multiple occasions so who is he kidding.. Wenger is a legend but he didn't get the better of fergie mate
Delusional Dixon and his ''5 factors''.
What am I talking about you might ask? Back on MOTD in 2012 everyone thinks City can still clinch the League despite running onto dubious form and up pops good ol' Lee: ''5 factors why City *won't* win the League and Uniturd will!1'' What about the 8-2 Lee, forgotten? Lol
He did and spat wenger out trophies don't lie
Wenger fantastic manager but to say sir Alex was afraid of him is laughable he build 3 different united teams and didn't spend that much doing it
Lol .. he spent a lot… for that time .. maybe lesser than Chelsea in his third phase..
Ferdinand rooney ronaldo tevez .. all were huge money at that time
Fergie did spend alot actually
lol what a clown if you think fergie never spent
@@user-gi7tg4bp8b do your research United under Sir Alex spent less than Liverpool, Chelsea, man City, aresnal in his entire tenure at United
Yh couldnt deal with Wenger?? Thats why Arsenal only won 3 titles in 17 years there was a rivalry. Lee Dixon chatting Shit as always. The guy who once chose Rooney over Messi and Fabregas over Gerrard. Nobhead.