How to join a kitchen work surface without a mason mitre or router and no idea!
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- čas přidán 16. 11. 2023
- So, I've shown you how to build an amazing garden room that will outlive you.
Now I'm going to share every bit of experience I've ever had, the complete raw, life real, stuff.
hope you enjoy.
You've gotta work with what you have, sometimes it is faultless, other times, you gotta improvise. - Jak na to + styl
Credit where it's due, you do show how to do a lot of stuff. They'll be people all over the country about to cut worktops and fit sinks thinking that's a bit of luck finding this video on CZcams and to be fair you do have a way of saying to people look it's not rocket science just watch this and see how easy it is. Having said that it has to be said, you're a very capable man. Cheers for taking the time to show this these vlogs are always appreciated by the majority 👍
This a great real world video of how to do something. No job is straightforward and there are compromises and this video shows how to achieve a great result. Top marks.
“It’s a fine line between fucking it up and doing a nice job”
That’s definitely going on a T shirt!
I hate working in cramped spaces like that. I think you’re happier in the open air too.
Cheers Liam- always worth watching.
I want a T shirt with this on! Genius
I just stumbled across this vid by chance, and having been a PROFESSIONAL kitchen fitter for 39 years now, I have to say that if I had done a job like that , I would be selling the Big Issue by my local train station with a dog on a piece of string. Shocking on so many levels 🤠
Professional kitchen fitter 🤣yeah, I remember that qualification 🤦🏻♂️
@@thegardenroomgurutime served carpenter and qualified in electrics mate, but yeah good one😂 just watch you don’t scratch yer Rolex on that worktop ‘join’ 😂
@@santorini8423 so easy to try criticise me, with your 3 subscribers and no content. I’m out there showing the man in the street, you’re sat behind your screen with your kitchen qualification 🤣🤣ffs, I’ve no interest in a Rolex mate. But keep watching me, you’ll get with the program eventually 👌
@@thegardenroomguru beats watching the BBC since they stopped doing decent comedy shows….i look forward to it…
@thegardenroomguru is this a piss take video then. How not to do worktops?
You want to get that bolt drilled in 2/3 - 3/4 of the way into the worktop so its pulling the top edge together and not the bottom/middle , sometimes can struggle to get it completely tight otherwise. Great video for someone with limited tools or no worktop jig 👌
Hope you keep the videos up , so educational and I love your no nonsense approach to everything. Keep up the good work Liam.🔨🔨🔨👌🏻👍
Great to see you back best tradesman I’ve seen for along time and I’m a glazer and carpenter over 35 years have watched you from the beginning
Liam is a proper expert.. Good teacher too. Despite having done many of these jobs myself, I'm still learning watching this.
Brilliant from Liam. Did the garden room big enough for a full sized snooker table. Building control passed it and we got a load of tips from Liam and his vids inspired us to do the room in the first place. Fantastic tradesman.
Thank you 🙏🏻
35 years as a time served carpenter / joiner. Until the plandemic hit. With not doing for 3 year my health went right down hill.
This post sparked my interest again. Really miss the game some times. 👍👍👍
PS. Your like I was, working at break neck speed. 😂😂😂
Really great to see you back and giving great detail of how to fit a kitchen really helpful
Liam, that was a masterclass…I didn’t think you would be able to do that….super impressive sir!!!!! 👌👍💥
I know a man who fitted a kitchen and his tools were stolen just as the job stared. The only tools he had left was a screwdriver, an old drill, a few screws and a chainsaw. I was off, left him to get on with it and the job was completed on time. A true tradesman. The quality of the install was totally acceptable. Whenever I see kitchen fitters I think of him. 👍🏻
You on glue by any chance?
True story actually. Get a haircut!
I still remember cutting my worktops when I done the kitchen about 8 years ago with the reverse blades for the jigsaw. What a pain they were!!... the router and jig that I used for that single job are still in the shed lol... Good job and great tips as usual :)
The only guy on CZcams I watch from start to finish.. you’re top quality 👌🏻👌🏻
Learned a lot from this, thank you Liam.
Great to have you back Liam. Some great tips for all 💪🏽💪🏽
Just come back from the pub and thought I’d watch some comedy😂. Jeez, I’ve just launched a brown trout laughing so much. Matron!!!!!!!!!!
127k views mate, it'll keep me in beer until I die😉 your welcome
Brilliant tutorial Liam 👍
Liam, your videos are so informative and entertaining. You reply to negative comments, you don't need to, the work speaks for itself and you don't need to justify yourself to some keyboard jockey know-alls.
Thank you so much for that post you’ve had me in fits of laughter my only worry is somebody might think this is the correct way to do the job keep up the good work.
Thank you so much for this video
Spot on !! Normally see you with a massive new gun, OSB, Joists etc.
Nice to see you do some nice neat finishing!👍
Never used that method myself but I’ll give you credit. That looked like a lovely tight joint. Handy to know if I blow my router up 👍
Haha, I must stick that on the side of my van "It's a fine line between doing a nice job or Fucking it up" Lol
Good man Liam great video
Fitted my first kitchen 8 years ago and bought square edge worktop exactly for this to avoid buying a jig.
Still going strong today.
If the front edge tape is difficult to get off I use a small set of pliers to twist it off a bit like the key on a tin of meat.
Some adhesives are easier to heat and get off than others
I'm off to the butchers in a while, do you need anything.?
I've been fitting kitchens for many years now and I actually watched this to the end. Lol
No biscuits in the joint.?
The bit that made me laugh was when you don't bother with the sink clips.!!
Stick to building garden rooms mate.
But thanks for the video it kept me entertained for 1/2 hour.!! Lol
Butchers at 5 to 6? That’s some butcher, I’m good thanks, biscuits? Does your butcher friend sell these? You keep watching, I’ll keep showing
😂
You may have been fitting kitchens for years but that's not a proper trade anyway always done by general builders
A tidy real world job 👌
I always put a no20 biscuit either side of the bolt with plenty glue. Helps with any steps. Nice job you're doing mate.
Very nice how too video on how to fit a work top / sink 👍👍👍👍👍nice camera work too 👍👍🇬🇧
Neato ! Been there, done a bit of that. Regards from AUS !
Iv never seen such a scatty tradesman! He’s all over the place!
Don’t hate the player mate
Great hack. 👍
Oakwood Camera Zooms. Nice detailed work.
Nice one Liam Keep er lit bro
Treat yourself to a new trend worktop gig, the one that cuts 3mm 5mm 10mm 25mm and 35mm Mason's mitre joint as the 3mm is perfect for square edges 😊
Great to see you hard at work as always Liam. And Davie. Just shows you know your trade. Shows the a***h****. That douted you with the garden rooms that you weren't a joiner. Great stuff. Cheers 🍻
Nice job, always used a jig but makes sense for a square edge worktop will try it in future would be quicker. Hope garden rooms come back built a few of the back of your earliest vids and came out brand new. Keep up good work ignore the c*nts
I used a rachet spanner on a kitchen thinking it was easier, but because Iused s jig the holes were closer together making the bolt go up to the end of the hole making it impossible to take of the spanner 😂. I tust left it and screwed it upout of the way. It was over 20 years ago, probably in someone else's toolbox .😂 Glad tosee you kept young David on👍great videos mate.
Shocking install made it a nightmare for the poor plumber!
I’d have cut sink out first before joining, such a small amount of top would be easy using clamps etc to take the cup out.
If your sink is that close to a join then by cutting the sink out first you can use biscuits to join the tops together with one worktop bolt at the front screwing through the right hand side of the sink cut into the adjoining top. Much easier and sink bowel would be in the cupboard.
Stainless steel Chimney extractor fan covers cut best with a wet tile cutter blade.
Great job well done Liam & team 😁😁😁
For such a small kitchen space that sink is far too big. A single round sink and round drainer surely would of been more suitable, also giving you more work surface to put your kettle and plates when dishing up dinner, there's no worktop surface left once your cookers fitted. Just an observation from a female. Always enjoy watching your videos thought 👌
Blame Howdens 🫣I’m just fitting what’s been sat here a year waiting 😊 your right of course, the original design drawing shows the work surface finishing another 300mm short of what it is 😬
Nice work you do I picked up a few things watching this CZcams video as I came across it by accident.
You can see you like it correct you have pride in your work 👍
I’m a simple man. See Liam upload, click Like & watch!
On the bow in worktop couldn’t you of put a bit of wood under both and the worktops and screw them together to pull it down
EXCELLENT
Couple of biscuits always helps to align.
Oh and if you have a plunge saw I’d use it for the sink and hob cut outs buddy
Put 4 bolts in. Get a rubber hammer. Get the bolts tight enough. Start from the front and get it flush, then work your way to the back, tightening the bolds as you get them level. Once the worktop joint is flush, screw it down onto the rails. The worktop will flex in breadth.
Use a file to do the ends much quicker and cleaner
I have done the same as you sir a few times 😊you adapt these Square, edge are a lot easier than mason joint do you use biscuits l know it’s more work but they do help keep up the good work sir 😊
good video, you could tho use the plunge saw to get nice cutout for sink and hob.
Liam, you were going to look for the soil stack at the end of the last video to avoid a saniflo, what did you find?
Done loads like that ,never a problem, your groove is a bit wide though .😮
Good
Hey Liam, You keep making these videos and we’ll keep watching them always good content keep up the good work 🪚🔨🧰🇬🇧👍🏻
I would have put the bolts in as normal, then taken them out once the adhesive had set. Then the cutout could have been where first planned.
Just a idea but we’re you cut the sink out could you drive some long screws like 150s in to the other work top instead of useing the bolts that could have kept the sink bowl in the unit
I'm going to be doing this shortly and was thinking of just butting the edges together without cutting off the laminate edging on either piece (as my tops are edged on the ends as well as the front). If I cut and expose the chipboard that only increases the chance of water ingress and swelling, is my thinking. There is a 1-2mm rounding though like yours so this will leave a very small channel, which I can fill with colourfill. Will that work with much less effort?
Shorten bolts offset jig accordingly
Nothing wrong with the way you did that joint. Masons mitres are for profiled edges. That edge was square with a removable lipping.
Exactly mate, I know loads do it that way
Nice tight fit splendid job ! Little john from chichester
19:00 Beautiful job and so useful to learn these skills without the jigs and bits but does the Guy in the Cabinet have to stay after you have finished the install 🙃
Those chisels look like there high quality and not your usual cheap disposable ones
To get over the bolt problem with the hob you just do it as per plan and when the glue goes of remove the bolts and cut out the hob. The bolts are only really clamps. 👍
I was taught to loosen the bolts off once the joint has gone off. Stops the joint ramping, where the chipboard compresses, but the laminate doesn't.
Hi Liam you are doing a great job and having fun making some brilliant videos superstar Ali Walsall west midlands england junction 10 m6 Walsall churckery
If you get the bolts that have thread all the way down you can cut them down to shorten the length of the bolt holes require .
You can buy 100mm mitre bolts as well…
Ok ……..@@santorini8423
Make a spacer block to stop drill going through worktop
Imagine if every trades person worked at liams speed how much work you have have done per day..... sit up and take notice
Slot cutter in the router and size 20 biscuits might have levelled that worktop up.
Biscuits would have got u out the poop with that bowed worktop, or possibly working from the wall tightening clamps is. Back - middle- front. Flushing as you go.
Thanks for video
Have you been scrapping with those knuckles? 😂
Do you have to remove lipping can you glue together without removing it thank you
Yes mate, as it’s got a slight bevel on it
IS THIS GUY A BRICKIE ? LOL
There’s nothing much more can’t do
Link to the nuts and bolts?
It's called a fitting issue which as the fitter you have to get round, end of.
Please read the direction, and appreciate what I’m showing before you comment
id watch you paint walls man!
🤣
Good work Liam but get back to The Garden rooms you’ll be happier
Ive actually done something similar where it was literally impossible to use any bolts whatsoever.
The solution I came up with was to dovetail joint it and it looked bloody fantastic!
Thats the tape measure of a man that does outside work.
I work where ever it takes me mate, in or out
decent
You should of mitred the worktop into the corner of the room
yeeeh haaa bronco
Genuine question, because i have seen a lot of people criticising the worktop cut.
I personally don’t see a problem with it, so what is wrong with it?
Everyone is a professional mate, it’s how a lot of joiners do it.
I would have done 45 cuts from a far corner to a front. Less work, I think . But let me know
Where is the plug hole in relation to the cupboard edge? I just know if i was doing it, it would be in the most inconvenient place
It’s still well in the unit mate
Just a thought, but if you had 45, the 2 work tops would have saved a bit of hassle,
It definitely wouldn't make it easier cutting both tops at 45 degrees.
Think I will stick to my jig, that all looked like far too much buggering about
Use a jigsaw to chop the slots out the dogbones
Takes 2 seconds 😅
That's messing if I've ever seen it 😢
Would HAVE,not would of!!!
Should of, would of, could of, 🙄
Use the easy fix bolts sooo much easier to use
I’ve got what I’ve got mate, it’s been sat here over a year waiting to be fit
@@thegardenroomguru good job tho I always use a metal file on the end ps love the vids pal 👍👍
80 grit sandpaper rough as fuck mate
thats why its 80 grit mate, rough😉
Total cowboy job..
🥱
Excellent job take no notice of these so called proffesional know it alls
Not trying to tell you to suck eggs but some biscuits would have probably helped to align the worktop joint and taken the bow out of it
you would not be working in my house
Strangely enough, I wouldn’t want too😉 keep watching and learning from the best
Only if you’ve got a big brown trout stuck in the U-bend 😂
@@thegardenroomguruwhy not? Because you wouldn’t get away with your crap?
Yeeeeeeeeeeee-haaaaaaaaaaaa
you again, why do you keep popping up trolling? look at the views mate, you know full well, 90% of joiners fit square edge surface like this, or are you the 10% who get you jig out and your Festool router, adjust your thong, and get to work? real life, real work, its how I roll😎
@@thegardenroomguru nah festool overpriced and hideous repair charges. Thong? You strike me as a mankini person
If the joints mint Liam, just use clear silicone to joint the tops. Water proof and sticks great.
Another example of a muppet in a showroom designing kitchens that has no idea of how they should be installed.
Could have used biscuits to flatten the joint mate.
There’s no flattening this joint mate, I’ve belted it with the hammer plenty,
Think you need a new tape measure
PROPER TRADESMAN:)
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