Debt Funds lose favourable tax treatment. What now?

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  • čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
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Komentáře • 50

  • @derikobrain5082
    @derikobrain5082 Před rokem +41

    This is completely squeezing the middle class tax payer..all avenues of inflation adjusted investments are being stopped.

  • @devendradevidasani7598
    @devendradevidasani7598 Před rokem +18

    On the contrary, All returns from fixed deposits should also be inflation adjusted.

    • @vms_kt
      @vms_kt Před rokem

      Well said.

    • @sujithkvarghese5616
      @sujithkvarghese5616 Před rokem

      Then government has to give money for every depositors

    • @rajanpatadiya5428
      @rajanpatadiya5428 Před rokem

      This is problem. When they know fd is not having indexation while debt mf have it they will remove from later😂

  • @birendraprasad
    @birendraprasad Před rokem +11

    We stay quiet because we don't have choice.... we have choice to kick of present govt.

    • @ramalingamsambandam7195
      @ramalingamsambandam7195 Před rokem

      We have voted them to squeeze us all in the name of development.
      What happened to 15 lakh cr black money extracted during De Mo
      Nobody knows

  • @MrSteverock1986
    @MrSteverock1986 Před rokem +5

    "We don't have a choice," that sums it up.

  • @yugandharreddynalabolu9110

    30% tax on long term holding of debt funds? Then not good investing in debt funds. Better to invest in aggressive hybrid funds and keep SWP.

    • @sanketnegi1
      @sanketnegi1 Před 5 měsíci

      So the point is withdraw money after retirement...
      When your earnings are almost not there and if you are falling below (if 0% then better) then the tax will be less obviously...

  • @naushad911
    @naushad911 Před rokem +3

    If you are planning your retirement from these funds you can defer your tax to that time and withdraw keeping income in 0% or in the lower tax brackets. But if you are looking at lumpsum withdrawal while still earning you will possibly end up with returns after tax that don't beat inflation. I
    In that case it might make sense to move your assets to Equity but I am sure there will soon be a increase in the 10% currently levied on Equity LTCG!

  • @sujasbandyopadhyay7092
    @sujasbandyopadhyay7092 Před rokem +3

    I don’t understand why govt is only chasing after middle class citizen only. It seems govt only think for lower class and higher class for vote bank politics. Middle class citizen always most sufferer in India .

    • @ramalingamsambandam7195
      @ramalingamsambandam7195 Před rokem +4

      It is the middle class which is the most vociferous supporter of the present govt in all media.
      So it means they like to pay taxes and sacrifice and follow the greatest leader since Asoka

  • @sarangsarode939
    @sarangsarode939 Před rokem +1

    Does this make good case for balanced advantage funds?

  • @sushantkhanna500
    @sushantkhanna500 Před rokem +3

    Is there a liquidity risk ? Should I reduce my allocation for now just in case there is a huge outflow.
    Also what is the recommendation for making further investments before March 31st ?

    • @Jyyo
      @Jyyo Před rokem +1

      If you don’t need money right now, avoid redemption before 31st.
      If you want to enjoy grandfathering benefits, invest before 31st.
      I had SIP in debt fund on monthly basis, letting go of it.

  • @ContractorLicenseSchool
    @ContractorLicenseSchool Před 6 měsíci

    If one invests in a debt fund using a self directed IRA it should return with zero taxes as long as it is not pulled out as personal income until one is 59 1/2 years old. Correct?

  • @p0r0s0
    @p0r0s0 Před rokem +1

    Which are those funds with both domestic and international exposure such that they are treated as regular equity funds for taxation purpose? (Point made around 04:20 min)

  • @banditonehundred
    @banditonehundred Před rokem

    So basically Government wants everyone to invest in equity. Middle class savers continue to get squeezed. Why can’t there be standard tax?

  • @saravanansubramanian4884

    But what can one do for rebalancing from debt to equity

  • @valueinvestor668
    @valueinvestor668 Před rokem +1

    Gold is soaring 60k+ per 10 gm

  • @priyanksriv1
    @priyanksriv1 Před rokem +1

    Are current investments in debt mutual funds grandfathered-in? There's little clarity on that - while some say only MLDs are not grandfathered and mutual funds units bought before 1st April are, others believe nothing is grandfathered?

  • @BSingh-bv6pw
    @BSingh-bv6pw Před rokem +1

    Can we invest through 'Value Research'? Does 'Value Research' act as investment broker? Do we need to pay to 'Value Research'?

  • @narasimmamurthyr2534
    @narasimmamurthyr2534 Před rokem

    Nice insights . Emphasis on tax deferral and money on demand aspect is good. Will avoid gold funds. International funds with 35% weightage vis a vis 65% for domestic equity. Voila . The parting shot on inevitability of change is true of investment and life as such

  • @sbsabnis
    @sbsabnis Před rokem +1

    Will your recommendation regarding investing for monthly income (34% equity & 66% debt with annual rebalancing) change now??

    • @sushantkhanna500
      @sushantkhanna500 Před rokem

      Will wait for an official answer, but perhaps not entirely.
      The recommended approach had included Liquid and other short term fund allocations to be realised in less than 3 years. So a decent percentage can perhaps still be kept.

  • @praphullkishoreniraj
    @praphullkishoreniraj Před rokem +1

    Thank you very much for sharing your insights and spreading awareness about this issue.
    Your video helped me understand the issue better 😊
    You are doing important work 🙏

  • @spdongre
    @spdongre Před rokem

    What about Index Funds and ETFs Sir. Do they continue to get Indexation benefit.

  • @arnabbanerjee8396
    @arnabbanerjee8396 Před rokem

    What about Kotak nasdaq 100 fund?

  • @thisisthebestid
    @thisisthebestid Před rokem +3

    Unbelievable. This is very bad news. Middle class will be hit

  • @gokuls908
    @gokuls908 Před rokem

    Does taking lon on debt mutual funds will be taxable ?

  • @nfuel99
    @nfuel99 Před rokem

    Inflation happens because govt is not doing their job properly. So govt should tax only the amount after adjusting for inflation. This is ripping of the middle class. No matter which debt fund you invest after tax it will never beat inflation. Never. You loose money in all debt fund unless you loose job for an year and redeem the debt funds for living off.

  • @anoopperiwal5401
    @anoopperiwal5401 Před rokem

    Is this taxability applicable on all redemptions made from 1st April'23 even though invested earlier or on investments made from 1st April'23 and redeemed there after.?

    • @nfuel99
      @nfuel99 Před rokem

      No grandfather clause exists for this. So exit before 31march.

    • @ValueResearchvideo
      @ValueResearchvideo  Před rokem

      Hello
      @anoopperiwal5401 The indexation benefit is applicable to any holder who has invested before 1st April 2023. You can avail the benefits of indexation regardless of your decision to sell your investments or keep them on hold in future.
      I hope this resolves your query.

  • @teammoneymatters
    @teammoneymatters Před rokem

    Does this apply to ETFs as well?

    • @sushantkhanna500
      @sushantkhanna500 Před rokem

      +1

    • @Jyyo
      @Jyyo Před rokem

      Does debt fund have any ETF?

    • @sudhakar1dw
      @sudhakar1dw Před rokem +1

      @@Jyyo liquid bees

    • @ValueResearchvideo
      @ValueResearchvideo  Před rokem

      Hello this is applicable to all non-equity funds irrespective of whether it is an ETF (debt ETF) or not.
      I hope this was helpful.

  • @sas2061
    @sas2061 Před rokem +2

    anti middle class