Rusty Ranger Returns with More Bad New Parts - Randomly Stalling
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- čas přidán 3. 09. 2022
- The 1986 Ranger is back. This time it randomly sputters or stalls. Let's see if we can figure it out.
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I love that Wes doesn’t have an opening graphic animation, theme song or any other waste of time. Straight to the problem at hand.
Nothing fancy here.
Yeah hes putting other youtubers out of business.
And, he still manages to have both an intro and an outro that neatly bookend the videos Excellent stuff.
I concur . I cant stand that crap . IM a direct to the point no fluff and b.s type of man and i Appreciate how its Simple and to the point . Thats how it should be .
I 100% always skip over those. You've seen them once, you've seen them a million times.
How does Wes only have 200k subs? Awful lot of folks missing out on Saturday and Sunday mornings before kids and the wife wake up (and between hunting seasons).
One of the top 3 repair shows!
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@@Beauloqs - also, there's none of that "But first, a word from the sponsor of this video - AmbiguGen Man Bun Hair Scrunchies..."
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Wes has a lot of patience, a neat mouse chasing dog and a cute wife.
no relation
@@calholli I'd hope his wife is no relation, that's just wrong
She sure is cute!
Dimples is the best.
sus comment
The engine tick is designed to be the best harmonic match for the power steering whine.
Thanks for keeping this little beauty on the road!
If you feather the throttle just right to change the ptich of the whine and the tempo of the tick, you and your ford can sing along with what you're playing on the radio. Sounds like a feature to me. lol
I think every non-V8 Ford I've owned has had a tick of some sort. My 4.0L Ranger had EVERY SINGLE hydraulic lifter seized from gunk in the tiny pressurized oil passages. No more hydraulic valve lash, combined with less than ideal top end oiling to begin with, and the push rod tips get flat. Ticking ensues.
Is this frank fritzs truck?! Lol
@@samholdsworth420 yup
@@rhekman My 1986 F-250 with the EFI 302 had the same "ticking" sound I heard on this Ranger at the end when he was letting it run on the base timing. I was told at some point it was the injectors, but I have no idea. :)
There’s no way a normal shop would do half the diagnosing that you do. They would fire up the parts cannon and hope to get lucky.
Parts cannon! LOL!
agreed
@@TroubadourJuggernaut Agreed. Our company had a "mechanic" that was a loser high school friend of the owner. We had over 30 vehicles. His best tools were a Walmart code reader and a parts cannon. He spent so much time replacing parts that even we knew had nothing to do with the problem.
Yeah especially the "highly trained dealerships" lol
Working on old Harleys taught me that aftermarket stuff can be junk. Fortunately for the Harley crowd, a whole ecosystem developed of "better than OEM," stuff like Jim's and S&S and other companies. Here we see how the aftermarket distributor company bought a module with improper alloy contacts. They are supposed to be beryllium-copper alloy so they stay nice and springy. It's a classic problem, the terminal looks springy when they assemble it, but after some heat cycles and vibration they bend open. The distributor company never knew they were getting ripped off since cheapo aftermarket companies don't do exhaustive incoming inspection. The module company might have been clueless as well.
This reminded me of when I was an engineer at Ford Light Truck in the early 1980s. We had an ignition module mounted on the fender. It had a paper-phenolic circuit board that would crack and cause the truck to die. After it cooled off, the board would flex back and the truck would start again. I said, "simple, just replace the circuit board with an FR-4 board". They looked at me like I was insane. This module was used in all the cars and trucks, six million vehicles a year. It would cost a dollar to change-- and they explained that Ford engineers were supposed to save money, not cost money. I saw guys lose a career for a 5-cent mistake and managers get fired for a 50-cent mistake. A dollar mistake would have gotten the whole department fired. Finance whiz kids ruined that company back then. So in the end, they poured sand in the die cast housing and placed the crappy board on top before potting it in. This fixed the problem for a few cents, in fact, since sand was cheaper than potting compound, it might have been booked as a cost savings. The reliability of the module was 12 or 14 Rs per hundred, in another words, 12% of the modules failed in the 12-month, 12.000-mile warranty period. It was the worst reliability part in Ford history, and I was the truck guy that had to use it.
I quit Ford and went to Silicon Valley, where I met a tech that had the same problem with his old Capri or Pinto. He learned he could wedge a "drunk bump" highway marker under the module against the potting, and when he screwed it down, it warped the board enough so it stopped cutting out. He figured this out on the side of the road. His skills were as amazing as yours, great episode.
Well, clearly Ford is still suffering the same problems with the financial whiz kids ruining Ford's quality and reputation. We only have to look at their recent recall record to verify that.
I remember very well the issues with those EEC modules. They didn’t do much better with the first TFI modules. I used to carry a spare module and tools in my Ranger, just in case……
Thanks for the story. As a machinist with 40 years' experience and plenty of manufacturing war stories, I also had my own go-arounds with managers and engineers about quality. I enjoy hearing from those who were trying to put out quality products and the backlash they were forced to deal with.
Iam with ya on Harley stuff sheez
Beryllium copper is not allowed in a lot of places because of the risk of Berylosis. Copper plated nickel alloy is the only real replacement. Not cheap.
Who knew remote starters could cause problems , now we know thank Wes
Back in the day my dad owned an 86 2.9 Ranger from almost new. From the word go, if it was colder than 20 degrees out, it wouldn't start. If we were ice fishing, we had to go out and start it every couple of hours so we wouldn't get stranded. Finally, after 170,000 miles, the TFI module finally failed. After it was replaced, the cold weather start issue was resolved! He drove that truck all those years like that...
I'm always excited to see the parts counter person bring out a faded box with rounded edges. It means I'm probably getting a functional part.
Tested, known good lol
@@petermolnar8667 shoot, I'm just happy I'm getting NOS parts. 😅
@@mphilleo ah I see, I thought more of the rounded off edges (indicating it may have been bought as parts cannon cartridge and returned) 😅
Or in it's third wrong box.
That Ranger comes equipped with a Dwight Yoakam cassette in higher trim levels.
I just love seeing the 86 ranger. I had one years ago and kept it down in florida to pull a sailboat. 2.0 liter. Basically it ran on air.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane seeing that interior
Congratulations on 200K Wes! Lots of stuff repaired nice job!
Dad and I continue to work on our 87 2.9l Ranger 4WD manual, so I love it when the Rusty Ranger gets some screen time! Over the years I've replaced a lot of those top-end parts, but i haven't gotten into those parts you replaced in this video (i've done injector cleaning, IACV, fuel pressure regulator, among other fun vacuum parts). Come to think of it, I bet they are playing a part in the overall weirdness in the performance. You had that thing sounding better than ours has in decades! Thanks for this - sending it my dad's way to discuss later!
Been running into a bunch of junk new parts. Just did a timing belt on a Dodge 3.5 and the kit I bought was from Gates. The timing belt idler pulley bracket was supplied by GMB and when tightened down to 61 Nm the tensioner would not allow the idler to pivot. I removed the new idler pulley from the GMB bracket and used the factory bracket. Gotta be careful with these parts nowadays.
I can't properly verbalize my appreciation for the level of detail you go in to, Wes. I've worked on Ford EEC-IV stuff, even as recently as a month or so ago, and as a high schooler. I didn't have the gizmos for testing, but I could short out two pins on the Ford OBD1 connector to read stored codes and to also run the KOER test. Something like this would have forced me to go to a mechanic. Thanks for putting in the effort to film and describe all the steps involved in the solution. You continue to fascinate me!
Same! I don't either my rangers running on $20-30 ebay sensors every once and a while, it currently has this exact issue and I was watching this for entertainment but found it helpful as it's detailed and he said the names of the part
Nicely done! My '84 Escort consumed one of those 3 pin TFI modules every 40k or so and at least 1 pickup coil in 120k. Yes, I always used fresh thermal grease. I put 150k on an 87 with the later TFI setup (7 pins) and had no issues. Makes me think the early stuff was junk.
Every Ford owner carried a spare TFI at one time.
@@WatchWesWork Got mine with heatsink behind the seat ready to go
They even had some sort of service bulletin on them, so they knew.
@@rolandgsl lawsuit/recall.
stalling in traffic=not fun
Yep, the trouble shoot process for all of mine was : If it dies and cranks back, pickup sensor. If it dies and doesn't crank back, TFI module. I used to keep an extra TFI module in the glove box on mine, then I learned about those nifty remote mount TFI modules and switched over to them.
Very thorough testing, nice seeing positive results
Wes, EXCELLENT diagnostic!! Pre-OBDII stuff can be very difficult, and I know 20-30 year Leed techs that won’t touch that stuff because they don’t have the ability to diagnose it. I really appreciate how straightforward you are. Thank you!!
That fuel pressure regulator is one of the first things I check on these old Ferds. 20 years seems to be their lifespan, at least here in Arizona. I've had a couple fail in that exact manner; one burned out a cat and melted the downstream O2 sensor, the other just severely fouled it's spark plugs. Thank goodness it's easy enough to pop that vacuum hose off lol.
That Sun Tach brings back 1974 thru 1976 memories!
I know the parts situation makes you question any preventive maintenance. I have a 96 Mazda B2300 that I pull behind my motor home and the clutch is getting close to the end. I keep thinking about replacing it, but sometimes it’s better not to touch stuff that still works. 😂😂
That distributor was bad when it was made, You got to love it! Thanks Wes!! Somewhere I read that Frank Fritz had a stroke.
she's wallered out
Oh for the days when the most complex thing in a car was the nut behind the wheel. 🤣
Congrats on the 200K Wes.
I'm a huge Ranger enthusiast, especially these 1st Gens. Currently restoring a single cab 83' Ranger 2.3L 4x4 '4 Speed stick shift and absolutely love it. I bought mine out in San Diego while I was there for the Navy back in February, drove it to Norfolk in May. Drove over 2700 miles and it made it with out a single issue.
Every Ranger I owned that had that dreadful 2.9L never ran right and always had issues. They aren't bad motors, it's the 80s emissions and technology that plagued the 2.8/2.9Ls. It's why I bought a carbureted 2.3L and currently about to throw in a Holley 350 that is jetted and tuned down for a 2.3L along with a RacerWalsh cannon port intake.
Had an old 87 Ranger with the 2.9L. The EGR pipe between the manifold and the valve had rusted through and caused a loud ticking exhaust noise. Took it out, drove a brass plug in the manifold, folded the pipe over and sealed it and put back in the valve to keep from sucking dirty air. Miss that truck
Fields look nice and green. Be curious to see how the beans produce though. Gotta love the parts problem we have in this country. America needs to be producing their own!!!
I know it's not always an option, but when a part is available that's made in the USA how many people are willing to pay more for the better quality? I ordered a wheel bearing for my '00 Blazer the other day, on Rockauto there's a ton of options. Cheapest is $26.99, then the made in the USA Timken is $135.79. I bought the Timken for a number of reasons, but how many others would look at those prices and make the same call?
When I watch your videos I realize how far things have come from the old points and condenser days I’m used to. I’m impressed by your diagnostic talent. I’ll stick to the 50 year old and older stuff
I like the 50 plus year old cars. Simple and somewhat reliable. Easy to fix. It shows that cars do not need all of that fancy electronic stuff to work. I miss working on my 73 Buick Lesabre. Plenty of room to work in!!!
Bored on a Sunday afternoon, you just made my day Wes.
I've been holding off watching this video because of other things I needed to get done so you may not see this comment (728 before me). I have an 86 Crown Vic and have found the books by Charles Probst really helpful in understanding how things work and diagnosing problems on my 86 Ford. Very interesting watching what you did on this one. So far I've been really lucky that not many parts have died because replacements are getting really hard to find. Still running strong at 302,000 miles!
Yeah, I love my 09 Ranger. 4 cylinders, 5 speed, 2 Wheel drive. And 33 miles to a gallon! It does everything I need it to do.
Thanks for the video, always enjoy watching!
Nice job! Good to see her running so well.
Thanks for sharing Wes, always enjoy your solutions and your humor! Its always the wires!
I had an 85 Oldsmobile Calais and the ignition module went out. Swapped it out and 3 months later the module died again. Swap, run and fail 3 months later. Bit the bullet and bought an OE GM module. Never had a problem again....
I had a 91 Ranger 4x4 with the 2.9L. Put over 210,000 miles on it. I sold it and saw it around town for several years and it kind of made me sad that I got rid of it. Was a great truck.
Love your videos. Always interesting and informative. Keep them coming. Thanks
Nostalgia: check ✔️.
My first Ranger was an '88 2.9 standard long box, with 200000 km of previous enjoyment already clocked.
I put almost another 100k of perfect motoring before it started to exhibit these exact complaints!
Multiple diagnostics from the dealer included over 40 hours of "computer connected diagnostics", a new/used ECM, then a brand new ECM, replacement of most of the electro-mechanical do-dads...all to no avail: it stalled in the parking lot when I went to pick it up. The dealer stopped charging me shop time, because the head mechanic was then on a mission to get to the bottom of this.
The entire book and read-outs were eventually sent to Ford.
Their considered response:
"Tell your customer to buy a new truck" 😡
I hate the cheap replacement parts on the market today. You’re almost better off cruising the You Pull It junkyards for OEM vintage stuff. Takes time and luck though.
One of the ways they get you to buy newer stuff. You can fix the old stuff but do you really want to?
Always worth the time to watch.
Always very informative and your patience level is a virtue. Congratulations on 200K!
Wes you brought another one back to life !! Thanks for sharing
Short, informative and entertaining video. Just the way I like them. Thanks, Wes. Keep them coming.
We can all learn from this guy ! Thanks for sharing wes !
Your knowledge never ceases to amaze me.
Another great one Wes! Thanks!
Interesting to see that diagnosis and fix, well done Wes 👌
Wes - You are so incredible! Thank you for the education!
Another great diag Video.
Stay blessed.
Thanks again.
Thanks for sharing this video, it’s enjoyable, informative and I like your style. Keep on wheeling them in and driving them out!
I owned an AMC Gremlin back in the 70's. I would drive down the road and the engine would die. I would turn the key to start and it would start within seconds. This would only happen once in maybe 20-100 miles. I was afraid to take it to the dealer because they would think i'm nuts. Finally about 2 yrs' later I received a recall that the plugin for the distributor sensor needed cleaned and lubed with electrical grease. Back then they didn't have computers, most machanics didn't have electricial knowledge like today.
sweet to see this sweet old truck cruising down the road again when it was left to deteriorate down to a 300 dollar vehicle. its way nice now how nice it goes and looks.
Nice work! Thanks Wes!
Thank - you, for posting Wes.
Happy Labor Day too...
You, your wife, son and pup.
I literally never comment but I’ve been binging your videos for about a year and I gotta say you’ve brought more entertainment and knowledge to my life than anything else on the internet, big thanks man 👊
Glad you like them!
Awesome job Wes. Most complete Tech on CZcams #1 for sure. Aloha from Kansas
Thanks Wes, we look forward to watching your vids. Thank God for guys like you who fix this stuff cause I ain't doin it
Wes, I always enjoy your videos. You have a boatload of patience and perseverance. Just about when a lot of guys would be ready to throw in the towel, you're just getting warmed up! Hope you have a Happy Labor Day!
Amazing Work as always! Thanks for your video on diagnosing and fixing these older vehicles!! I love your practical approach! You blend good critical thinking with what is needed from new technology! I wish i was closer to you I could definitely give you some more vehicles!
Very satisfying to see an oldie get new life, thanks Wes
Wes, You put out the best content with a great sense on how difficult the repair/ parts industry has gotten. Thank you so much for taking all your viewer along on your ever changing daily adventures in automotive repair. Have a great labor day weekend!
Thanks for stirring up lots of memories, Wes. Spent a lot of time under those hoods chasing DPFs, EGR problems, module's and pick up some on Fords. The DPF would short the 5 volt line and kill the truck. Kept dozens of them in stock. Sold them as maintainence. Made lots of mortgage payments of those 80s ford's. Thanks for another good show.
Changing the differential module on my Skoda diesel on Monday to hopefully sort my EGR fault .
Well done! Nice job of troubleshooting !
You certainly made that look easy. Well done and enjoy the long weekend.
Wes helping people who own that type of vehicle. Great analysis on wire issues, thanx for sharing.🙂
Wes is an awesome mechanic. A great problem solver. Fantastic with electronics. He keeps producing- I keep watching.
really enjoy your videos much appreciated!!
This brings back memories. I had a 1984 Ranger that I purchased brand new and it was almost identical to the Rusty Ranger. My Ranger only cost about $10,000, if I recall. Those were the good ole days. I had a part time job barely above minimum wage and was able to pay for college and make payments on my new Ranger and had money left over.
Wes, you have some of the best content and I love your sense of humor. I also like the in house brake bleeder assistant and her prodigy. Max too.
Great video a blast from the past timing light 😀
That cricket chirping in the background would drive me nuts! I would have to go find that sucker........
What a great Video. The Methodical Troubleshooting is why I like the Channel. I appreciate you showing the voltage difference between bad and good part, amp draw of bad and good Solenoid. Thanks for sharing your time and knowledge, Wes.
Lots of progress and repairs done in this truck good video as aleays @Watch Wes Work
You are an electrical guru Wes, I wish we had someone like you around here!
The chirping cricket is a nice touch...at least it is not in your food...yet. Your diagnostic and mechanical skills always amaze me. Thanks for all you do!!!
you know what’s sad wes with the part shortage going on you still was able to locate 3 different “sensors” for this old ford lol people wonder why we keep a hold of these vehicles lol
Frank called...he wants his Ranger back!
As a farmer yes the prices are good but the price of diesel fuel,fertilizer and chemicals have also doubled and some have tripled. The government wont allow high prices without everything else following. That goes with everything i guess though.
Yeah the farmers here keep complaining from the driver seat of their $95,000 pickups.
@@WatchWesWork Not all farms are created equal. Big farms will still make it but wont be getting that 95000 dollar truck every year unless they have 200 plus corn and 50 plus beans. Not the case in my area. Were burnt up.Small to medium farms are the ones that will struggle most. Farmin is like rolling the dice in Vegas. You either hit or the casino(bank) is taking everything you got.
Wes, when you are dealing with loose connections or even one connector, you can twist the prongs a little and make connections that way. If it is on the outer side connection shell portion, crime the rolled portions a little to tighten it up. Could allow a part to work that way... Another great video and troubleshooting issue. Thumbs Up!
It's funny how we learn these quick fixes. I've done it on cars, refrigerator, washers and dryers. You always have to tweak these things to make them play nice.
That snap on setup takes me back to the 2000s - one enormous blow-moulded case for the scan tool, another for the cables, keys and adapters!
What did they call those? Personality Keys maybe?
@@WatchWesWork that rings a bell! I've still got them somewhere
Wes I just need to say thanks. At my job, since I'm the more mechanically inclined of the bunch I usually am tasked with figuring out and fixing our various pieces of equipment. And your various video's on many different types of equipment have helped me tremendously. Although now I'm thinking about it that's probably why I have to work on everything now😆. As always great video mr Wes.
Wes; Congratulations on hitting 200k !! Seems like yesterday I was watching "Hi Mom" videos..time flies.
Love the rangers had a couple of them when I was young. Good trucks heads like to crack though. Thanks Wes
Thanks for sharing.
Thx for making these videos. I am truly impressed. Most days I wish I had a fraction of your talent and knowledge.
I looked up Salvador Dali to see who he was.
As usual, pure genius
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A true mechanic. Stay safe.
That adapter work is top notch Wes 🤣
such a cool old vintage truck. Funny, how electronics replaced all those vacuum components and the vehicles run so much better now. Nice video.
Your lucky with finding the parts for the rusting ranger not too many of them left great job and video God bless from GA and stay safe
get that cricket, welcome to my shop
Thanks for the video Wes.
When a vehicle gets to be that old it seems to want the parts cannon let loose. I know it sucks but if that fixes it and it goes a long time then it's worth it. Wes you have the patience of Jobe and again a great video.
Love the old danger rangers. Great trucks. Congrats on the 200k!
Oh here we go again with the rusty ranger I had one on the trucks mine was really good to me I mostly got one that was built on a Wednesday or something this truck had been built on a Monday or Friday LOL. But we have the master diagnosis on the job this guy can diagnose anything it seems like damn wess you are one smart man. I learned a lot from watching your channel I appreciate it thank you for the hard work you put into it for us.
I like the rusty Ranger. I owned a 1983 Ranger V6 2.8 4x4 for 10 years. Hauled a 900 pound camper all over British Columbia . Heard a balsey sound from tranny so got all the bearings changed. A great ride. Thanks Wes.
I used to have an ‘83. None of these issues. But the carb was a trick. Glad to watch i always find your candor pleasant. Thanks for sharing. I always find this era of transition to a more modern standard so curious. Granted im not doing the work😄
Good video Wess, hope all is well out there in rustville.
Best wishes to you and family.
And another great video Wes, Thanks
Man do I wish wes put out videos every other day, I never get tired of watching him